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By *agnumBeltran OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

I've been on and off this site for a good few years now. I have been on it this time for 18 months. Only ever had 4 meets over the years and only one in the last 18 months.

I know the men massively outnumber the women in here, but it's getting very tedious. I bet I must get one reply if I'm lucky, out of every 100 messages I send. Out if them 100 messages about 75% never get read! Ha.. I was starting to get a complex! Ha.. Time to go? Or hang around and fire off another 6,987 messages and see what comes back?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Close door behind you on way out please keep heat in roon there is a recession on

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By *agnumBeltran OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yet oddly you think Fabswingers is the best site out there? Then you go on to say that you are new to the world of swinging? Very confusing profile. However I did like the injection of humour with the status and your title of VVWE, Self made millionaire, male model, occasional porn star.

Onto you post, really its your choice on what you want to do, maybe given the above, do a re-write of your profile but patience is the key

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Any clubs or socials happening around your neck of the woods, it is a good way to get known.

You have had meets, so keep positive and maybe ask the people who have met you what drew them to you... That might help.

Good luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just another variation of a look at me post. Bit likecwatching tv if you do not like whats on telly no point watching for sake of it then moaning just switch it off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Go"

Why be so terse and rude to this guy? he has a genuine concern, and is disappointed at the lack of meets.

He obviously knows the reason as he has stated it, single guys outnumber women in hugely.

There is no need to be so dismissive of people, the forums are here for all to discuss anything they feel and just because it doesnt meet with your interest or approval doesnt make it correct to be the way you are. We could say to you if you dont like what hes written dont reply as we would be as dismissive as you.

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By *agnumBeltran OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle


"Go

Why be so terse and rude to this guy? he has a genuine concern, and is disappointed at the lack of meets.

He obviously knows the reason as he has stated it, single guys outnumber women in hugely.

There is no need to be so dismissive of people, the forums are here for all to discuss anything they feel and just because it doesnt meet with your interest or approval doesnt make it correct to be the way you are. We could say to you if you dont like what hes written dont reply as we would be as dismissive as you."

Thank you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Go

Why be so terse and rude to this guy? he has a genuine concern, and is disappointed at the lack of meets.

He obviously knows the reason as he has stated it, single guys outnumber women in hugely.

There is no need to be so dismissive of people, the forums are here for all to discuss anything they feel and just because it doesnt meet with your interest or approval doesnt make it correct to be the way you are. We could say to you if you dont like what hes written dont reply as we would be as dismissive as you."

The thing is he asked if he should stay or go therefore inviting replies so whats what wrong with the poster saying just go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

start threads about how much you love bbws instead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Go

Why be so terse and rude to this guy? he has a genuine concern, and is disappointed at the lack of meets.

He obviously knows the reason as he has stated it, single guys outnumber women in hugely.

There is no need to be so dismissive of people, the forums are here for all to discuss anything they feel and just because it doesnt meet with your interest or approval doesnt make it correct to be the way you are. We could say to you if you dont like what hes written dont reply as we would be as dismissive as you."

See, the thing is, there are threads like this ad infinitum week in and week out. While I appreciate that this may not apply to the OP, they're usually desperately attention seeking with the intention of provoking a raft of..."awww don't go" posts or messages...usually followed with another such thread several weeks later declaring the same thing

OP, if you're not getting the results you require from here, there are basically 3 things you can do...lower your expectations, change your approach or leave...it's as simple as that

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

ha. dont let the door hit ya, where the good lord split ya .

bye

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By *landfordfabbersCouple
over a year ago

Blandford ish

I think the issue with single men on fab is down to attitude alot of the time, to be honest we don't have them able to contact us most of the time for the reason that most don't seem to forget there manners! If you saw a lovely lady out in town or with her friends you wouldn't approach her say "alright luv, you got amazing tits I'd like to cum on those bad boys" then whip your cock out and show it to her! But that seems the mentality on here! Now for this issue we just block men so the minority ruin it for the majority as so often in life! don't know if you are approaching couples or who but if you message the couple remember that too! I'd say stick it out and just remember to be better than the knob heads!

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By *stwoCouple
over a year ago

anywhere

Dont even see the point of your question.Bye

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah I definitely think you should go, without a shadow of a doubt. If it is so 'tedious' I cannot see the point in putting yourself through any further trauma.

Bye

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By *r and mrs bangerboobsCouple
over a year ago

Bridgend

Try this sites sister site.....not saying you'd have more luck but some of the people are friendlier and less judgemental

Mrs BB x x

(Think I'd best get in my bunker now lol)

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By *EXY50ishWoman
over a year ago

Anywhere and nowhere

Your profiles hidden - that won't help ! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

try pof

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swinging is a scene not just a website so try socials, clubs and parties to get yourself known. Good luck whatever you decide to do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Swinging is a scene not just a website so try socials, clubs and parties to get yourself known. Good luck whatever you decide to do."

gotta agree with the above

i think alot of people join the website and its their first taste of the scene so sours them in some respects. the best starting point is probably clubs and socials

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Open profile ,and GO to clubs

Most of my friends on fab are from clubs

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"Swinging is a scene not just a website so try socials, clubs and parties to get yourself known. Good luck whatever you decide to do."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If your genuinely not happy then go or hide your profile until you know what you want to do.

Swinging isn't for everyone and sex is NOT guaranteed and people need to understand that about fab and swinging. I leave when I've had enough then miss it and come back lol

Life isn't easy mate but only you can decide what to do.

Good luck OP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been on and off this site for a good few years now. I have been on it this time for 18 months. Only ever had 4 meets over the years and only one in the last 18 months.

I know the men massively outnumber the women in here, but it's getting very tedious. I bet I must get one reply if I'm lucky, out of every 100 messages I send. Out if them 100 messages about 75% never get read! Ha.. I was starting to get a complex! Ha.. Time to go? Or hang around and fire off another 6,987 messages and see what comes back? "

If u go then u r 100 per cent guaranteed not to get a meet from here BUT if u stay there us always a chance. I haven't looked at yr profile so this is just a suggestion but how about u wipe out all yr profile n totally rewrite it n refresh with all new pix???? Often folks find profiles 'stale' cos they've already read em a few times - particularly folks local to yr area. Just a thort

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By *lackshadow7Man
over a year ago

Toronto

C'mon, unless you are exaggerating, one reply out of every 100 messages sent is just bad odds and even worse math. Then again, maybe you are one of those people sending copy and paste messages all over the place.

The above is a hint based on what you've said. You can if course take or leave said hint really.

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By *inky BunnyMan
over a year ago

Cardiff

Don't go

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area

Your name would be put me right off...

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

King's Crustacean


"I've been on and off this site for a good few years now. I have been on it this time for 18 months. Only ever had 4 meets over the years and only one in the last 18 months.

I know the men massively outnumber the women in here, but it's getting very tedious. I bet I must get one reply if I'm lucky, out of every 100 messages I send. Out if them 100 messages about 75% never get read! Ha.. I was starting to get a complex! Ha.. Time to go? Or hang around and fire off another 6,987 messages and see what comes back? "

Do you have a 'swingers' outlook on sex ?

Do you live a swinging lifestyle on a daily basis or do you just try to get sex over the net ?

One means you will get sex more often than the other does.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it time to say goodbye ........ Fist thing come into my head .. The Sound of Music .. xx Well end of the day you have to be true to yourself do whats right for you .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Open profile ,and GO to clubs

Most of my friends on fab are from clubs "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Open profile ,and GO to clubs

Most of my friends on fab are from clubs "

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ


"Don't go "

Why, do you want to meet him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope i can inspire

Single guy

you shud never give up and yu should live in hope.....

I do ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Go

Why be so terse and rude to this guy? he has a genuine concern, and is disappointed at the lack of meets.

He obviously knows the reason as he has stated it, single guys outnumber women in hugely.

There is no need to be so dismissive of people, the forums are here for all to discuss anything they feel and just because it doesnt meet with your interest or approval doesnt make it correct to be the way you are. We could say to you if you dont like what hes written dont reply as we would be as dismissive as you."

Sadly there's too many people on here that can't help but be rude and up themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Go"

Lol I like the answer straight to the point.

Nothing in life is guaranteed so if you go or stay its your choice.

We are staying though as this place rocks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Go

Why be so terse and rude to this guy? he has a genuine concern, and is disappointed at the lack of meets.

He obviously knows the reason as he has stated it, single guys outnumber women in hugely.

There is no need to be so dismissive of people, the forums are here for all to discuss anything they feel and just because it doesnt meet with your interest or approval doesnt make it correct to be the way you are. We could say to you if you dont like what hes written dont reply as we would be as dismissive as you."

The same could be said to you if you don't like what's written then dont reply. By the way it doesn't bother me what anyone has written

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You're asking should you stay or go because of lack of response to messages while having a hidden profile..... you having a laugh or what

I'd choose the go option

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Go

Why be so terse and rude to this guy? he has a genuine concern, and is disappointed at the lack of meets.

He obviously knows the reason as he has stated it, single guys outnumber women in hugely.

There is no need to be so dismissive of people, the forums are here for all to discuss anything they feel and just because it doesnt meet with your interest or approval doesnt make it correct to be the way you are. We could say to you if you dont like what hes written dont reply as we would be as dismissive as you."

I really don't see that anyone has been rude. The guy asked a question and people have given their answers, some negative, some positive so what's the problem here ? Are we only allowed to respond to questions if we crawl up peoples arses and beg them not to leave ? At the end of the day I assume the guy is an adult and can take on board all the replies which he,of his own free will, asked for

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

see... the thing is this...

no one is holding a gun the OP's Head...

No one is forcing him to stay..

for me... if you are not enjoying doing something, and you don't have to do it... why would you put yourself thru it

I would guess most are disappointed in the lack of meets... you can dust yourself down and get on with it.... if something isn't working change it!!!

sometimes just because the answer isn't something they want to hear, it doesn't mean that answer isn't a valid one....

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By *adkatWoman
over a year ago

Alfreton


"Your name would be put me right off..."

Snap, become a site supporter and change your name for starters it may help x

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I don't know you, the poster, personally, so can't say how well your profile matches you etc. Definitely an updated, refined profile always helps, as does some good and varied photos. Keep in mind what swinging means for you, and why you're involved and what you have to offer others. Consider whether your profile name is right, and then onwards.

Swinging for many of us isn't just about use of a website, Fab is a great environment, if it works for you, but is just an extra element of swinging. I don't know how many of your permanent partners also swing, or whether you go it alone, and how much you use swinging environments for social as well as sexual interaction.

My overall advice, is to seek out others who are good company, and not to be so isolated. If Fab were to be the sole source of your sexual satisfaction, then it likely won't stack up. Aim to travel and meet others, and hone your people finding skills so that you target better and find people who are good to be around, have a laugh with, and some of whom may lead to sexual fun, or who may help you find appropriate partners. When I go to a club, if I chat with great people, have a few laughs then I'm happy, and the sexual side is a good bonus, but better not to be the sole source of my attention. What I get is always good and adds icing to the cake of the interaction with others, at the bar or around and about.

I think perhaps it would be good for you to have swinging friends, so think about that too. Take care, and whatever you decide, make sure it's right for you. Good luck!

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By *opping_candyWoman
over a year ago

West Yorkshire


"Try this sites sister site.....not saying you'd have more luck but some of the people are friendlier and less judgemental

Mrs BB x x

(Think I'd best get in my bunker now lol)"

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Go

Why be so terse and rude to this guy? "

twaddle..

the OP asked a question, stay or go..

may be straight to the point but its not rude or terse at all..

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By *pecifically1Woman
over a year ago

Hull

OP I have just had a super email from a single guy clearly showing he has read my profile and respects my current position.

He got an immediate response..

Perhaps a change of tack may result in more responses...

Do what you have always done you will always get the same results...

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Go

Why be so terse and rude to this guy? he has a genuine concern, and is disappointed at the lack of meets.

He obviously knows the reason as he has stated it, single guys outnumber women in hugely.

There is no need to be so dismissive of people, the forums are here for all to discuss anything they feel and just because it doesnt meet with your interest or approval doesnt make it correct to be the way you are. We could say to you if you dont like what hes written dont reply as we would be as dismissive as you.

Sadly there's too many people on here that can't help but be rude and up themselves. "

How is that "up themselves?"

The op asked a question: should I stay or go. Someone answered the op, which is rare on these forums with go...and?!! If they'd replied "go you attention seeking munter and leave us beauties to it" then yeah...I'd see your point!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Go"

Or stay

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland


"OP I have just had a super email from a single guy clearly showing he has read my profile and respects my current position.

He got an immediate response..

Perhaps a change of tack may result in more responses...

Do what you have always done you will always get the same results..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been on and off this site for a good few years now. I have been on it this time for 18 months. Only ever had 4 meets over the years and only one in the last 18 months.

I know the men massively outnumber the women in here, but it's getting very tedious. I bet I must get one reply if I'm lucky, out of every 100 messages I send. Out if them 100 messages about 75% never get read! Ha.. I was starting to get a complex! Ha.. Time to go? Or hang around and fire off another 6,987 messages and see what comes back?

If u go then u r 100 per cent guaranteed not to get a meet from here BUT if u stay there us always a chance. I haven't looked at yr profile so this is just a suggestion but how about u wipe out all yr profile n totally rewrite it n refresh with all new pix???? Often folks find profiles 'stale' cos they've already read em a few times - particularly folks local to yr area. Just a thort "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do you know ur messages aren't read?

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By *odareyouMan
over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

22 sealed boxes,,

theres only one question,,

Should you Stay or should you go,,

Your choice , no one can tell you,,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been on and off this site for a good few years now. I have been on it this time for 18 months. Only ever had 4 meets over the years and only one in the last 18 months.

I know the men massively outnumber the women in here, but it's getting very tedious. I bet I must get one reply if I'm lucky, out of every 100 messages I send. Out if them 100 messages about 75% never get read! Ha.. I was starting to get a complex! Ha.. Time to go? Or hang around and fire off another 6,987 messages and see what comes back? "

With your 'success rate' mate I would severely consider what you are doing wrong.

Then give up....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How do you know ur messages aren't read?"

It shows up in your 'sent' messages folder!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really really don't blame you, I know exactly how you feel . It is a waste of time .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Try this sites sister site.....not saying you'd have more luck but some of the people are friendlier and less judgemental

Mrs BB x x

(Think I'd best get in my bunker now lol)"
lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Go

Why be so terse and rude to this guy? he has a genuine concern, and is disappointed at the lack of meets.

He obviously knows the reason as he has stated it, single guys outnumber women in hugely.

There is no need to be so dismissive of people, the forums are here for all to discuss anything they feel and just because it doesnt meet with your interest or approval doesnt make it correct to be the way you are. We could say to you if you dont like what hes written dont reply as we would be as dismissive as you.

Sadly there's too many people on here that can't help but be rude and up themselves. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i can only speak for us, well suzy, but the ops nick, "i want to be adored" turned her off straight away.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"i can only speak for us, well suzy, but the ops nick, "i want to be adored" turned her off straight away."

I get the reference.. I think.. stone roses song....

for me way to many people think of the end result, and not enough about the journey to get them there...

that is what seperates those who "get it" and those who complain about not getting meets..or replies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How do you know ur messages aren't read?"

It also says whether you message was read or deleted with being read

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How do you know ur messages aren't read?

It shows up in your 'sent' messages folder!!"

They didn't like ur profile and never delete messages then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is tough for a single guy on here for a fact, so i can understand where you are coming from (not complaining, that's just the way it is) It is interesting looking at the replies to your post and other similar posts. Women and couples get in undated, so can be very selective. From the tone of your post, i would take a break and come back with a new profile, taking tips from the other forum posts on profiles. all the best

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By *renchbambi xWoman
over a year ago

Need to know basis

I thought...Lets have a look at the profile, maybe there is a potential to help the fellow!!!!

SO I click on the Username...and...hidden profile....what can I say but Be seeing you...or not...your choice!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still here ?

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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

And a really good profile I think!

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By *ngel n tedCouple
over a year ago

maidstone

Try getting a partner and then start looking for bi ladies to join you for a threesome......then you'll have something to really moan about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been on and off this site for a good few years now. I have been on it this time for 18 months. Only ever had 4 meets over the years and only one in the last 18 months.

I know the men massively outnumber the women in here, but it's getting very tedious. I bet I must get one reply if I'm lucky, out of every 100 messages I send. Out if them 100 messages about 75% never get read! Ha.. I was starting to get a complex! Ha.. Time to go? Or hang around and fire off another 6,987 messages and see what comes back? "

I cannot imagine how WE can decide THAT FOR YOU!! It's an individual decision innit. I am thinking of leaving soon too but my reasons r that summer is almost here n I prefer random anonymous meets n also I never stay on any site long lol - so I guess everyone has to make their own choices

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Grrrrrr I get pissed off with men who keep saying there leaving the site because of no meets etc. .JUST GO.!!!! Us women will get over it lol

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By *ackandkateCouple
over a year ago

Truro

As Dame Vera said,

Goodbye eeee, goodbye eeee

There's a silver lining in the sky eeee

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still here then lol

Was this another 'please look at my profile' thread ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Grrrrrr I get pissed off with men who keep saying there leaving the site because of no meets etc. .JUST GO.!!!! Us women will get over it lol"

Hush now child - all variants of people join site, stay awhile, leave, come back for myriad reasons. Original poster 'I wanna be adored' has had only one meet in 18 months so probably feels there's not much point hanging round any longer! I've had 29 in 4 months so I certainly can't complain - it's just I get bigger kick from anonymous outdoor meets n the weather is getting good enough for that now especially in England. The ladies undoubtedly hold the power game in here but that is no reason to trash 'I wanna be adored ' for voicing his thorts. Kindness costs nothing n other posters have tried to help with advice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you don't try you never succeed, I'm single lad and do struggle on here can be annoying at times sending message's then seeing them deleted but always plenty more women to try, don't let it get you down, I've been thinking of maybe travelling a bit for meeting now or maybe trying a club. Chin up fella good luck if you stay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Grrrrrr I get pissed off with men who keep saying there leaving the site because of no meets etc. .JUST GO.!!!! Us women will get over it lol

Hush now child - all variants of people join site, stay awhile, leave, come back for myriad reasons. Original poster 'I wanna be adored' has had only one meet in 18 months so probably feels there's not much point hanging round any longer! I've had 29 in 4 months so I certainly can't complain - it's just I get bigger kick from anonymous outdoor meets n the weather is getting good enough for that now especially in England. The ladies undoubtedly hold the power game in here but that is no reason to trash 'I wanna be adored ' for voicing his thorts. Kindness costs nothing n other posters have tried to help with advice "

Here here

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By *am123Man
over a year ago

essex chelmsford

u still here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Grrrrrr I get pissed off with men who keep saying there leaving the site because of no meets etc. .JUST GO.!!!! Us women will get over it lol

Hush now child - all variants of people join site, stay awhile, leave, come back for myriad reasons. Original poster 'I wanna be adored' has had only one meet in 18 months so probably feels there's not much point hanging round any longer! I've had 29 in 4 months so I certainly can't complain - it's just I get bigger kick from anonymous outdoor meets n the weather is getting good enough for that now especially in England. The ladies undoubtedly hold the power game in here but that is no reason to trash 'I wanna be adored ' for voicing his thorts. Kindness costs nothing n other posters have tried to help with advice "

I'm aware of that but when I see it written time and time again from the same men. .I have to bite my tongue. .. and damn that's a hard task

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Looks like o p not left yet perhaps he just attention seeker as tom jone jones would say its not usual

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i can only speak for us, well suzy, but the ops nick, "i want to be adored" turned her off straight away."

Biggest example of 'missing the point' I've read on here for a long time :D

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Looks like o p not left yet perhaps he just attention seeker as tom jone jones would say its not usual "

Tom Jones with a stutter? :D

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By *ugglerr_starrCouple
over a year ago

worcester


"Swinging is a scene not just a website so try socials, clubs and parties to get yourself known. Good luck whatever you decide to do.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Looks like o p not left yet perhaps he just attention seeker as tom jone jones would say its not usual

Tom Jones with a stutter? :D "

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vamos ,adios

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Try getting a partner and then start looking for bi ladies to join you for a threesome......then you'll have something to really moan about "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Looks like o p not left yet perhaps he just attention seeker as tom jone jones would say its not usual

Tom Jones with a stutter? :D

Yes "

"It's not u-un-unusual to be l-lo-loved by a-an-anyone" (before I get reported by outraged of tunbridge wells, I'm a former stutterer myself)

Its either that or it's the dance remix

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wasn't "I say goodbye to fab" a smash hit for The Carpenters in 1974?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

maybe have more engaging attraction on ur profile

dont know if ur wanting a profile critique...but if I was a female/cpl..I wouldnt engage with someone (especially a man) with no pics on the profile..why choose to contact when there is more profiles that give more????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still here then ?

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By *ce WingerMan
over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

Oh goody, can we hijack the thread now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Edit your profile a bit and go to clubs perhaps to net work? Too many rude people replying on here. Stay. Hope it goes well 4 you x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Too many rude people replying on here. "

What with all the tits, cocks n faj pics yeah you're right, way too many rude people on here

On a more serious note though, isn't it time a female member was selected every week to "take one for the team\site" and sympathy shag all the moaning peeps who cant get a meet ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any clubs or socials happening around your neck of the woods, it is a good way to get known.

You have had meets, so keep positive and maybe ask the people who have met you what drew them to you... That might help.

Good luck"

sorry you sound like yet another single man moaning because women won't meet, get to clubs, socials, network and create a list of friends that will meet and reply to your messages

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any clubs or socials happening around your neck of the woods, it is a good way to get known.

You have had meets, so keep positive and maybe ask the people who have met you what drew them to you... That might help.

Good luck

sorry you sound like yet another single man moaning because women won't meet, get to clubs, socials, network and create a list of friends that will meet and reply to your messages"

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