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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here!" Blimey you have a very low opinion of the people of fab  | |||
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here!" So sweet. | |||
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here!" Regardless of the "level" you perceive someone to be, everyone has the right to hold out for someone they find attractive. Being picky isn't the sole preserve of those you deem to be a 10. | |||
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here!" What a way to ensure you get no messages... | |||
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here!" Wow! So people you think are unattractive should not have the right to be picky? What an awful attitude you have. | |||
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here! Wow! So people you think are unattractive should not have the right to be picky? What an awful attitude you have. " But...but...his profile says all women are beautiful!
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here! Regardless of the "level" you perceive someone to be, everyone has the right to hold out for someone they find attractive. Being picky isn't the sole preserve of those you deem to be a 10. " Very well said! Must have respect for everyone! | |||
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"Maybe should of asked the question differently...do women search and look for men to message or just wait to get messages " It’s as simple as Some do and some don’t and those that do, won’t some times and those that don’t, might occasionally do. Hope this clears it up | |||
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"I’ll give them a wink to see if they’re interested sometimes." I'll just pop and check. 🤞  | |||
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"I’ll give them a wink to see if they’re interested sometimes. I'll just pop and check. 🤞 "Any luck | |||
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"That's how we met! I messaged Ali as he stood out amongst the other profiles! So yes, women can message first if they are actively looking! " That's very nice to hear! | |||
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"Got my first unsolicited direct message today from a women and she is stunning so I’m over the moon today .. " Congrats! What a brilliant feeling. | |||
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"wise words above xx" Never been called wise before.. if indeed you referred to me … | |||
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"Very rarely but I'm lazy "With your figure it’s easy to let guys do the work … we won’t mind .. | |||
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"Very rarely but I'm lazy
With your figure it’s easy to let guys do the work … we won’t mind .. "Aww thankyou ☺️ I should probably make more effort though | |||
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"Very rarely but I'm lazy
With your figure it’s easy to let guys do the work … we won’t mind ..
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I should probably make more effort though "No no… pop some thing comfortable* on and put your feetup .. what do you need doing * or something uncomfortable if in mood .. | |||
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"I suspect 1% of women do message guys first but the guy probably has to look like a model and have had absolute compliance with the list of requirements on the womens profile. Interestingly, a chap at work is on dating sites and mentioned that guys are still expected to message first or make the first move. Ladies - this is not equality. Of course we all know that you only want equality when it benefits you. I don't actually have a problem with this, I'd just like women to admit it!" I look about as far from a model as a guy can get. I still get messages. I think we men sometimes fall in to the trap of thinking all women want the same thing. Yes there are people who will tick a higher proportion of the populations boxes than others but that works both ways. | |||
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"I suspect 1% of women do message guys first but the guy probably has to look like a model and have had absolute compliance with the list of requirements on the womens profile. Interestingly, a chap at work is on dating sites and mentioned that guys are still expected to message first or make the first move. Ladies - this is not equality. Of course we all know that you only want equality when it benefits you. I don't actually have a problem with this, I'd just like women to admit it!" You're having a laugh. I don't look like a model, I'm almost 60 and anyone paying even the slightest bit of attention to my forum contributions will see that I'm far from compliant and don't jump through hoops for anyone. It's all about attraction and most women find men who treat them as equals much more attractive than those who put them on pedestals. | |||
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"I suspect 1% of women do message guys first but the guy probably has to look like a model and have had absolute compliance with the list of requirements on the womens profile. Interestingly, a chap at work is on dating sites and mentioned that guys are still expected to message first or make the first move. Ladies - this is not equality. Of course we all know that you only want equality when it benefits you. I don't actually have a problem with this, I'd just like women to admit it!" Forum related or friends notwithstanding, of course any guy I'd message would be what I'm looking for on my profile. Why would I message those who aren't?  | |||
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"?????" Some do occasionally but it’s often a rare thing. | |||
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here! Blimey you have a very low opinion of the people of fab "Not at all… My wording could be better but you know what I mean.. | |||
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here! Blimey you have a very low opinion of the people of fab
Not at all… My wording could be better but you know what I mean.."Yes it could be a lot better. I know exactly what you mean, I don't agree with it. | |||
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"Ladies - this is not equality. Of course we all know that you only want equality when it benefits you. I don't actually have a problem with this, I'd just like women to admit it!" I’m not sure equality has any relevance in this discussion. Asymmetry in male:female ratio and hypergamy are real things—whether males like it or not. From a male perspective, the REAL problem is when this imbalance leads to a lack of reciprocity when dealing with certain ladies. E.g (something that has happened to me): being messaged by a lady asking me to show me face, with her only reciprocating if she likes me. Not understanding reciprocity = not understanding fundamentally what a relationship is. Ironically, male halves in couples are the absolute worst at this… | |||
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"Course they do , or we would be guilty of trawling fab searching out single ladies And we would like to think that we are better than that !" ???
Not quite sure I understand what you mean. Surely anyone who sends a message to another here has had to "trawl" Fab to some degree? Exceptions such as spotting someone on the forums apply, obviously, but searching Fab for those in whom you might be interested is kinda par for the course, no? I'm unsure why you sitting back waiting to be messaged makes you better than those who actively search for potentially compatible people to message | |||
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here! Blimey you have a very low opinion of the people of fab "It is the reality though. All of life is here! | |||
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"Course they do , or we would be guilty of trawling fab searching out single ladies And we would like to think that we are better than that ! ???
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Not quite sure I understand what you mean. Surely anyone who sends a message to another here has had to "trawl" Fab to some degree? Exceptions such as spotting someone on the forums apply, obviously..."• Not in my experience. All the messages that I've received have been via the forums — either from women forum-dwellers or lurkers, in addition to those who have 'seen' me in their local feed or noticed my status update/s. | |||
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"?????" If other sites are anything to go by, research has shown that about 5% get 95% of the messages from women. The whole "finance, trust fund, 6 foot 5, blue eyes" thing basically. The remaining 5% are short and fugly, but funny. | |||
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"?????" Yes. However we have a 0% success rate when we message first! | |||
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"6 ft 5 and blue eyes don't seem to be working for me " In fairness OP, your profile reads like you're looking for someone to go off grid and/or backpacking with you - that's quite niche | |||
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"????? Yes. However we have a 0% success rate when we message first!" Do you think that might change? | |||
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" From a male perspective, the REAL problem is when this imbalance leads to a lack of reciprocity when dealing with certain ladies. E.g (something that has happened to me): being messaged by a lady asking me to show me face, with her only reciprocating if she likes me. Not understanding reciprocity = not understanding fundamentally what a relationship is. Ironically, male halves in couples are the absolute worst at this…" I’m not sure I understand Reciprocity only applies surely if the other person finds you attractive? They asked for a face pic, which you sent willingly without force and you weren’t what they were looking for. They don’t owe you anything. You can choose not to send face pics, you can ask them to send first… it’s up to you to set your own boundaries. What’s the point in wasting your time sending face pics if the conversation isn’t going to go any further? | |||
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" I’m not sure I understand Reciprocity only applies surely if the other person finds you attractive? They asked for a face pic, which you sent willingly without force and you weren’t what they were looking for. They don’t owe you anything. You can choose not to send face pics, you can ask them to send first… it’s up to you to set your own boundaries. What’s the point in wasting your time sending face pics if the conversation isn’t going to go any further? " If someone asks for things that they aren’t ready to do themselves in the first place, it’s a clear sign that they don’t value reciprocity. She’s more than welcome to ask for a picture and not feel the need to share one. I also have the freedom not to engage with people who don’t understand that reciprocity is at the core of any healthy relationship—regardless of how many people are throwing themselves at “you” : ) | |||
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"Most woman on here too up their own a** to even acknowledge anyone never mind send first message haha" Some yes like guys who are like that. However in my experience the vast majority lovely people. Don’t let that spoil things . | |||
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"Don’t see anything wrong with messaging first. If I want, then I want 😉 I’m more confused by winks tbh. Why do they exist?? You like someone enough to wink but not to talk to? Just awkwardly wink and run away? 😅 I don’t get them at all 🙈😂" · I just interpret winks as some perfunctory action. I don't send winks. Indeed I haven't sent one for over three years, other than those which are part of a forum game or a challenge (an equally pointless exercise). | |||
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"Most woman on here too up their own a** to even acknowledge anyone never mind send first message haha" This is the attitude single guys need to take. This one is sure to be dripping in fanny in no time🤣🤷♀️🍿 | |||
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here!" Wow. You think you are the judge of who should and shouldn't get attention on Fab. Smooth. | |||
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"I suspect 1% of women do message guys first but the guy probably has to look like a model and have had absolute compliance with the list of requirements on the womens profile. Interestingly, a chap at work is on dating sites and mentioned that guys are still expected to message first or make the first move. Ladies - this is not equality. Of course we all know that you only want equality when it benefits you. I don't actually have a problem with this, I'd just like women to admit it!" Have men on this site never interacted with a woman in real life before? | |||
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"Ladies - this is not equality. Of course we all know that you only want equality when it benefits you. I don't actually have a problem with this, I'd just like women to admit it! I’m not sure equality has any relevance in this discussion. Asymmetry in male:female ratio and hypergamy are real things—whether males like it or not. From a male perspective, the REAL problem is when this imbalance leads to a lack of reciprocity when dealing with certain ladies. E.g (something that has happened to me): being messaged by a lady asking me to show me face, with her only reciprocating if she likes me. Not understanding reciprocity = not understanding fundamentally what a relationship is. Ironically, male halves in couples are the absolute worst at this…" You realised you could of said no right? Like you weren't forced to send her a face pic? | |||
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" I’m not sure I understand Reciprocity only applies surely if the other person finds you attractive? They asked for a face pic, which you sent willingly without force and you weren’t what they were looking for. They don’t owe you anything. You can choose not to send face pics, you can ask them to send first… it’s up to you to set your own boundaries. What’s the point in wasting your time sending face pics if the conversation isn’t going to go any further? If someone asks for things that they aren’t ready to do themselves in the first place, it’s a clear sign that they don’t value reciprocity. She’s more than welcome to ask for a picture and not feel the need to share one. I also have the freedom not to engage with people who don’t understand that reciprocity is at the core of any healthy relationship—regardless of how many people are throwing themselves at “you” : )" I think you miss my point. If the person doesn’t feel attraction then there is not going to be any relationship | |||
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"Most woman on here too up their own a** to even acknowledge anyone never mind send first message haha This is the attitude single guys need to take. This one is sure to be dripping in fanny in no time🤣🤷♀️🍿" Hilarious, fitting Fab name. Thanks for the chuckle this morning. | |||
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"I’ll give them a wink to see if they’re interested sometimes." Who in their right mind wouldn’t be interested in you…!!! | |||
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"Ladies - this is not equality. Of course we all know that you only want equality when it benefits you. I don't actually have a problem with this, I'd just like women to admit it! I’m not sure equality has any relevance in this discussion. Asymmetry in male:female ratio and hypergamy are real things—whether males like it or not. From a male perspective, the REAL problem is when this imbalance leads to a lack of reciprocity when dealing with certain ladies. E.g (something that has happened to me): being messaged by a lady asking me to show me face, with her only reciprocating if she likes me. Not understanding reciprocity = not understanding fundamentally what a relationship is. Ironically, male halves in couples are the absolute worst at this… You realised you could of said no right? Like you weren't forced to send her a face pic?" How do you know I didn't say no to this lady?  The point is not about what to do in that situation. The point is about not understanding reciprocity which is key to any relationship (even if it's pure sex). | |||
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"Ladies - this is not equality. Of course we all know that you only want equality when it benefits you. I don't actually have a problem with this, I'd just like women to admit it! I’m not sure equality has any relevance in this discussion. Asymmetry in male:female ratio and hypergamy are real things—whether males like it or not. From a male perspective, the REAL problem is when this imbalance leads to a lack of reciprocity when dealing with certain ladies. E.g (something that has happened to me): being messaged by a lady asking me to show me face, with her only reciprocating if she likes me. Not understanding reciprocity = not understanding fundamentally what a relationship is. Ironically, male halves in couples are the absolute worst at this… You realised you could of said no right? Like you weren't forced to send her a face pic? How do you know I didn't say no to this lady? The point is not about what to do in that situation. The point is about not understanding reciprocity which is key to any relationship (even if it's pure sex)."So if you send a pic and the person isn't interested they should still send you one back? Lmao | |||
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here!" So these "horror shows" shouldn't have preferences and should just have sex with anyone who messages them? | |||
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" So if you send a pic and the person isn't interested they should still send you one back? Lmao " I don't send pics to people who ask for things they evidently aren't ready to do themselves  Sorry, not sorry for sticking to Courtesy 101 | |||
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here!" . . Wow, an outstanding effort to get you onto many peoples block list 👏 With comments like this, how could anyone who you message take any compliments that you may make seriously. You should remember that everyone is beautiful in their own right, including you, and that many, whatever their opinions on your looks/body, will rarely come out with comments like yours | |||
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"Don’t see anything wrong with messaging first. If I want, then I want 😉 I’m more confused by winks tbh. Why do they exist?? You like someone enough to wink but not to talk to? Just awkwardly wink and run away? 😅 I don’t get them at all 🙈😂" Wink wink 🤭 | |||
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here!" Agreed | |||
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here! . . Wow, an outstanding effort to get you onto many peoples block list 👏 With comments like this, how could anyone who you message take any compliments that you may make seriously. You should remember that everyone is beautiful in their own right, including you, and that many, whatever their opinions on your looks/body, will rarely come out with comments like yours " Not one reference was body or look specific..A 10 involves a personal assessment which could factor personality, profile pics, messages, interests, location and comparability...so it's a factual statement that there will and are some horrors on here. Automatically assessing the statement to looks speaks more on you than them, and that's good that people block it eliminates non compatible more should learn that | |||
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"...There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows... ...there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here!" · Being picky and discerning has little relevance to hierarchy or calibre. If the ladies are exhibiting such behaviour then I say good luck to them. That also goes for the men who have a prerogative to be selective. IF there are some ladies getting more attention then I suspect the 'fault' lies with those who are giving it to them. It's not like they are ruffling their plumage at all and sundry to attract attention. As for "sub par men".... ...you can recognise them quite easily: they tend to be resentful with 'sub par' attitudes belittling above-average men. | |||
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"I think they probably don’t need to make the first move… What makes me laugh about fab…. There some clearly level 10 ladies on here and I get they can be picky but there’s also some total horror shows who also get way more attention than they would in real life yet they have the same attitude because there’s also a huge majority of sub par men on here!" | |||
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"Some of the women on here are right munters ! But think they are the knees & bees because they get plenty meets, Bet the guys shagging you wouldn't be seen in public with you Bring on the flak lol"Plenty not my type,but no accounting for taste.A sense of humour,nice smile and being a pleasant person can be attractive.We can't all be super models,after all. | |||
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"Some of the women on here are right munters ! But think they are the knees & bees because they get plenty meets, Bet the guys shagging you wouldn't be seen in public with you Bring on the flak lol"You know these women who think (quite rightly in my opinion) that they're the 'bees knees' wouldn't be seen in public with the men they're having sex with either. It's a two way street | |||
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"Some of the women on here are right munters ! But think they are the knees & bees because they get plenty meets, Bet the guys shagging you wouldn't be seen in public with you Bring on the flak lol"If you're so attractive why hasn't anyone met you? | |||
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"Nope, because it’s an absolute sausage fest, I’ve seen the other side from a female friend, Thousands of messages and pic’s of cocks they don’t have to message anyone."  | |||
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"I have done it with poor results. Not anymore " Same here. On my previous profile I was accused of being desperate since I messaged first. I left the site for a while but came back to enjoy the forums as community on here rather than meeting anymore. | |||
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"I get some but I’ve been told I look intimidating god knows why " I seem to get that a hell of a lot but by the guys of a couple or just guys lol | |||
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