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"Everyone prefers sex without condoms, but the sensible among us rubber up with the randoms Regular testing is much more sensible. Oral sex carries many STI risks but just about no-one even considers a condom for that. | |||
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"Everyone prefers sex without condoms, but the sensible among us rubber up with the randoms How is regular testing more sensible than condoms? Surely both? Regular testing won't help you if you've already contracted HIV... | |||
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"Safety first and bareback is hands down the best. Swinging is a risk assessment. In an ideal world we wouldn't need protection. It's all a matter of the level of risk your willing to take for your pleasure and that is a personal choice. No sex is 100% risk free. For use bareback is exclusively between the two of us. However we both are happy with oral unprotected as is by far the norm on the scene. It's not risk free but this is the ballance of risk and pleasure we're comfortable with. And we have in the passed still been tested to reduce that risk futher. The idea of bareback is great. We often talk about the idea of Mrs and another woman bent over and me slipping in and out of them both of them seamlessly. But of course in reality this would not be practical unless it was someone we were comfortable with and trusted 100% to be safe with. I get there are circles of bareback swingers who test regularly and only bareback within that circle. However that is putting a lot of trust in other people and the bigger that circle gets the more liable it is to someone breaking that trust and risking everone." You could make that happen with a female condom. #justsaying | |||
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"How is regular testing more sensible than condoms? Surely both? Regular testing won't help you if you've already contracted HIV..." Because regular testing will catch any infections before it does long term damage. People who think condoms are 100% safe and don't get regular tests are ignorant of their status. I used to be a sexual health outreach worker and the number of women who get infected by their partners because she believed he was monogamous. I am on PrEP and get tested every 12 weeks without fail and I enjoy my bareback sex very much! | |||
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"Everyone prefers sex without condoms, but the sensible among us rubber up with the randoms you'll be surprised how many who use condoms that dont test or never have its safer sex not safe sex you can still catch stuff after all you dont just use your cock id rather go with a barebacker who test regular than a safe sex person who never test .. i test every 6 weeks im lucky tho as i do voluntary work for a safe sex charity so have easy access and apart from two exclusive regulars its all safer sex | |||
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"Everyone prefers sex without condoms, but the sensible among us rubber up with the randoms Very, very true. I wish some people would do a little research or visit their local clinic/ charity and ask the professionals advice. There is so much misinformation around. | |||
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"Everyone prefers sex without condoms, but the sensible among us rubber up with the randoms Regular testing will give you a very good chance of identifying an STI with no obvious symptoms and so could hopefully stop further unnecessary spread if it. It could also help you get treatment and stop you being unwell or even stop infertility in some case. As for HIV transmission then if that is the case, early recognition and a plan for treatment is advisable too. It can stop the progression and control any other issues. HIV is now a managed illness where people can live a long and normal life. With good treatment and the education about that being available, we take away the stigma and fear so that everyone reslises that it is more like diabetes etc now. The advances in medicine are huge in comparison to even 10/15 years ago | |||
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"It's funny because we've had a guy say , oh he gets shy when he sees a condom as he goes limp But the sight of a condom spurs Mr j on It's like oh he's getting some , and it's not Mrs j" | |||
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"Everyone prefers sex without condoms, but the sensible among us rubber up with the randoms Just had mine today. The girl knows me that much now as I come every quarter..should I chance it and ask her out. She my type | |||
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"Unfortunately I can't use condoms as the chemicals used always make my cock go soft, it's happened for years. I meet up with a local lady quite regularly, and her vaginal walls sting if a condom is used both of those issues can be worked around and not a good reason to go bare. | |||
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"Looking at hot pics and pretty much most couples and women profiles safe sex has gone out the window!" or it's photos with their own partners We do safer sex... test regularly...condoms for full sex no exceptions with others, but we do oral without | |||
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"Always safe sex and no oral given for us...we enjoy our lifestyle but definitely not risking our health" You don’t give oral ? ……… what’s happening with “not Kev” in your second pic then ? Or have I misunderstood? | |||
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"Bring back the 70s and 80s only used them then for birth control " Prep seems to be swinging things back that way and I worry about the increase in STDs that will cause, and arguably already is.. As an aside, if you review academic research and the thoughts of practicing GUM physicians, oral sex is pretty close to safe sex. The transmission route is pretty ineffective for STDs and the amount of transmission vs the amount of acts of oral is very small. | |||
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"We love bareback but with strangers it's always safe sex..the risk isn't worth it." That’s why I’d love to find a long term couple | |||
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"I always prefer bare. Much better, but understand if want safe, " Likewise it just depends who it is 😈 | |||
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"What do you like best" Love bb, who doesn't | |||
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"Everyone prefers sex without condoms, but the sensible among us rubber up with the randoms So how is testing regular regarded safe? It only has to be one person who has an std to have sex with you within them 6 weeks, you have sex with say 4 other people.. they have sec with 4 other people.. how fast an std can spread in 6 weeks and some people don’t show symptoms | |||
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"Sorry to be a bore but I am a theatre nurse and the rise in oral cancers caused by HPV really does scare the hell out of me. Mainly tonsils/ tongue and throat. I have seen an uprise in the last few years in my job - just a foot note to say if you feel like you have got something funky going on, change in swallowing, unusual white patches go and get it checked out. Stay safe and happy people’s of Fab. Thank you; at last someone who knows what they are talking about. | |||
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"As a blood donor I have to play safe. Having said that I would go with the flow everything in life a risk you just gotta do what you think is right really " Surely they check the blood before using it anyway | |||
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"Safe allways. Some things can’t be tested for " Which things cannot be tested for please? | |||
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"Sorry to be a bore but I am a theatre nurse and the rise in oral cancers caused by HPV really does scare the hell out of me. Mainly tonsils/ tongue and throat. I have seen an uprise in the last few years in my job - just a foot note to say if you feel like you have got something funky going on, change in swallowing, unusual white patches go and get it checked out. Stay safe and happy people’s of Fab. Thanks 🙏 for raising this | |||
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"Safe sex, Don't want kids, or sti's (Yes I know oral poses a risk)" Up the bum, no babies! | |||
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"Safe allways. Some things can’t be tested for Which things cannot be tested for please?" Intelligence | |||
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"Safe allways. Some things can’t be tested for Which things cannot be tested for please?" Herpes & HPV (Men) | |||
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"Prefer bareback if it's with a woman I'm seeing exclusively otherwise it's condoms with other women I'm not familiar with " Wrong thread my friend. You are looking for the one called "double standards. | |||
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"I wonder how many people reply to these threads trying to say th " right thing" rather than what they love What do you think they should be saying? Most, if not all, prefer bare, who doesn't? But they state they play 'safe'. Why isn't that a valid reply? | |||
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"A question to all my wife would only give oral to a stranger with flavoured condom , what are your thoughts ? Would you refuse ?" Absolutely not. Safe sex is safe fun | |||
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"A question to all my wife would only give oral to a stranger with flavoured condom , what are your thoughts ? Would you refuse ?" we would refuse oral with a condom. | |||
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"What do you like best" Bareback of course !, so much more feeling and closeness plus a few more kinks | |||
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"As much bareback as possible, hence finding the right partners" Agreed. Bare is always the preference | |||
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"Just the chance to do either would be nice !!!!" this | |||
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"A question to all my wife would only give oral to a stranger with flavoured condom , what are your thoughts ? Would you refuse ?" I think that she is wise; I do the same as your wife. | |||
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"Are we the only ones that get put off swinging by some of the replies on here ? " Do you care to elaborate? | |||
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"Are we the only ones that get put off swinging by some of the replies on here ? " Yes we know exactly what you mean | |||
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"Are we the only ones that get put off swinging by some of the replies on here ? Do you care to elaborate?" The devil may care attitude that some people have to their own health and the health of others in their quest for an orgasm. | |||
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"Everyone prefers sex without condoms, but the sensible among us rubber up with the randoms I think, if someone, or a couple at least all prepared to get recent test done before meeting you and they’re generally the kind of people you can trust, to not be having unprotected sex in the pairing in between test and result, of course she can’t know for sure but it’s about minimising risks. You can’t completely get rid of risks. There is no such thing as hundred percent save sex. it also depends how much sex you’re having the probability of catching a STI increases exponentially with your number of partners, because it includes all their partners, including the people that say they only have unprotected sex with their own partner, everyone is relying on everybody being honest which as we know doesn’t happen | |||
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"I can only handle bareback with one man that I trust at a time. Everyone else uses condoms. I currently have 7 regular male playmates/partners who swing. We use condoms for vaginal and anal sex but not oral. We test regularly and share test results. We've had 2 oral positives from 2 different STIs/STDs but not group-wide transmission. If someone in my polycule receives a positive test, we all go and get tested. We try to be as cautious as possible because there are wives, girlfriends and children involved and we all play in clubs and at sex parties. At clubs and sex parties, I'm reluctant to do unprotected oral sex but will kiss even though there is a transmission risk there. One poor guy at uni got meningitis from kissing,and he was in hospital for 6 weeks. I was vaccinated for meningitis before my degree but I was a very good girl at uni. Now I'm a very bad woman with no children and no spouse with neurodivergent perimenopausal karen sexual rage! Those numbers scare the hell out of me the statistician in me is always thinking about things like this - numbers equals increased risk - doesn’t matter how safe anybody thinks they are being, there are always exceptions there are always people who are dishonest, single men particularly bi and TV / trans are just terrible many don’t care about condoms, (they will carry them in case ‘she’ requires them attitude) and are as prolific as they can be - I’ve seen enough of them at parties with complete strangers dicks hanging out of their bum holes without condoms on so you minimise the risk by selecting very very carefully and reducing the numbers | |||
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"I can only handle bareback with one man that I trust at a time. Everyone else uses condoms. I currently have 7 regular male playmates/partners who swing. We use condoms for vaginal and anal sex but not oral. We test regularly and share test results. We've had 2 oral positives from 2 different STIs/STDs but not group-wide transmission. If someone in my polycule receives a positive test, we all go and get tested. We try to be as cautious as possible because there are wives, girlfriends and children involved and we all play in clubs and at sex parties. At clubs and sex parties, I'm reluctant to do unprotected oral sex but will kiss even though there is a transmission risk there. One poor guy at uni got meningitis from kissing,and he was in hospital for 6 weeks. I was vaccinated for meningitis before my degree but I was a very good girl at uni. Now I'm a very bad woman with no children and no spouse with neurodivergent perimenopausal karen sexual rage! I mean I can't comment on others as all the places I go mainly clubs 99% of people I've seen use condoms. I don't bareback anyone and I've only seen one of my partners bareback his wife. I don't attend many private parties. I've been to one private party, and the organiser was very strict, vetting everyone, regardless of gender or non-gender identity. There is no way around it. If you are a swinger, you have the risk profile second only to porn stars. It only takes one partner to infect everyone, so I see common gangbangs, greedy girls/boys, bukkake and blowjob circles as extremely high risk. I can't speak on single men as a single woman but for sure I know couples are not immune, especially couples with multiple play partners. Some couples do take PEP and PREP but that doesn't cover every STI or STD and neither do condoms. | |||
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