FabSwingers.com forum: Experiment

By *endalshaggers OP Couple
45 weeks ago

Lake District

Sometimes we feel single guys on here are given a hard time (pardon the pun) and a bad rep due to the actions of a few bad apples. We read all the time about constant hassling, not reading profiles but expecting they'll be your type, demanding a meet up now etc etc.

As an experiment last night, we turned on the filter back to allowing single male profiles to wink and message us.

Went to bed at 10pm, with 0 new winks and 1 unread message.

Logged on this morning to 124 winks and 97 messages - all but two winks from single males and all but 4 messages (including the message from last night) from single males.

Spent the last hour going through and deleting the messages - all of them followed the same tones of "hey How are you?" "You're incredibly sexy, I'd love to fuck you" "meet me?" "Come and fuck me, I'm bigger than your hubby and ill give you better sex".

Turned the filter back off, I can now see why some people have had problems or negative opinions!

I know it's not every single guy on here but some of them....it's absolutely no wonder they've had no meets or no luck!

C xxx

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By *he Gentleman CallerMan
45 weeks ago

Southampton

That's really interesting experiment OP..and quite an eye opener for us single men I would suggest. We knew things got busy for couple/single females but that really brings it home.

The advice/illustration of how NOT to introduce oneself is also required reading..and of course no pics of one's parts!

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By *enk15Man
45 weeks ago

Evesham

A little while ago We set up a placeholder account for my partner.

Profile was single female, no pictures, no description.

100+ messages rolled in.

80% had the title of "Hi" or a variation of.

65% contained no more than 8 words.

50% Contained words like Sexy/beautiful/gorgeous to describe someone they have never seen.

Now this was not an experiment. If it was, the limitations are that a blank profile probably attract messages from certain types of people.

But it was eye opening.

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

We have men a handful of really lovely men on here. But they have ALWAYS been a result of us looking for them.

So in my opinion the best way for guys to find women is to often be online and have a unique and interesting profile.

That being said we rarely receive messages off men that have any good content or interesting things to say despite lots of fun info on our profile to strike conversation.

So.

Maybe there really is just an ocean of weirdos with a sprinkling of good eggs.

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

My context is different in that I am single and not straight, but it seems same old story. Almost blank profiles, faceless messages, sleazy short messages, or just ‘hi’ etc. 90% do not read profiles. It is tedious to say the least and I am not checking messages as much as used to. I can image for women and MF couples it would be much more intense in volume. So little effort

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By *ouples_EroticaXXXCouple
45 weeks ago

manchester

"Sometimes we feel single guys on here are given a hard time (pardon the pun) and a bad rep due to the actions of a few bad apples. We read all the time about constant hassling, not reading profiles but expecting they'll be your type, demanding a meet up now etc etc.

As an experiment last night, we turned on the filter back to allowing single male profiles to wink and message us.

Went to bed at 10pm, with 0 new winks and 1 unread message.

Logged on this morning to 124 winks and 97 messages - all but two winks from single males and all but 4 messages (including the message from last night) from single males.

Turned the filter back off, I can now see why some people have had problems or negative opinions!

I know it's not every single guy on here but some of them....it's absolutely no wonder they've had no meets or no luck!

C xxx "

Majority of the messages we get are from people who sent that kind of garbage, despite us stating in the profile we won’t meet any men who approach us via message.

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

Also. This could definitely be much bettervmanaged by the powers that be, but as a cheap subscription site... Can we really expect that?

We get what we pay for. Perhaps they should offer and upgrade service with better filters and searches etc

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By *ouples_EroticaXXXCouple
45 weeks ago

manchester

"Also. This could definitely be much bettervmanaged by the powers that be, but as a cheap subscription site... Can we really expect that?

We get what we pay for. Perhaps they should offer and upgrade service with better filters and searches etc "

Second this.

Video verification would help also

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By *bi HaiveMan
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45 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"We have men a handful of really lovely men on here. But they have ALWAYS been a result of us looking for them.

So in my opinion the best way for guys to find women is to often be online and have a unique and interesting profile.

That being said we rarely receive messages off men that have any good content or interesting things to say despite lots of fun info on our profile to strike conversation.

So.

Maybe there really is just an ocean of weirdos with a sprinkling of good eggs. "

This is generally the best and easiest approach for couples, having been one for a decade previously.

Guarantees no crass messages in your inbox.

Guarantees you'll not receive one from anyone that doesn't catch your eye initially.

Guarantees no additional workload to manage your inbox.

Doesn't of course guarantee you'll be of interest to them, but that's always the case whoever messages first.

And I can almost guarantee any message you sent wouldn't ever get lost in a sea of others as is commonly claimed by men when they try and contact women and couples. Their inboxes will rarely be overflowing, so you'll be easily seen.

If more couples and women adopted that approach then I suspect there'd be significantly less complaints on the forums about volumes of messages, their quality/content and potentially a lot more successful encounters.

It would also encourage single male profiles to put more effort into visuals and text content. A win for pretty much everyone.

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By *ea wangMan
45 weeks ago

scunthorpe

Lots of entitled people on here op not just single guys ,but women and couples who expect you to jump through hoops just to get them to say hello as o swings and roundabouts ,now try the same experiment with just couples and share the results in 24hrs

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

"Also. This could definitely be much bettervmanaged by the powers that be, but as a cheap subscription site... Can we really expect that?

We get what we pay for. Perhaps they should offer and upgrade service with better filters and searches etc

Second this.

Video verification would help also"

I would pay higher subscription for this

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

I believe if couples and females on here want to meet single men then the easiest thing is for them to approach the single male. That way they choose and don't need to accept all the crap from the many desperate guys on here!!

I'm never desperate...lol

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

"Lots of entitled people on here op not just single guys ,but women and couples who expect you to jump through hoops just to get them to say hello as o swings and roundabouts ,now try the same experiment with just couples and share the results in 24hrs"

I came on fab as a single woman looking for single women. Trust me. Even that was a graft as most fo my messages got completely ignored..... And I wrote lovely personal messages to all of them with face pic.

So trust me. I understand the pain and disappointment you guys must feel. I gave up VERY quickly and felt really deflated and crap about myself.

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

As an experiment last night, we turned on the filter back to allowing single male profiles to wink and message us.

Went to bed at 10pm, with 0 new winks and 1 unread message.

Logged on this morning to 124 winks and 97 messages - all but two winks from single males and all but 4 messages (including the message from last night) from single males.

Turned the filter back off, I can now see why some people have had problems or negative opinions!

I know it's not every single guy on here but some of them....it's absolutely no wonder they've had no meets or no luck!

C xxx "

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By *r_reusMan
45 weeks ago

Coventry

u ok?

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By *-MrGatsby-.Man
45 weeks ago

London and Sandy

What might stop the Single Male spam is a restriction that the message must be at least X characters long. E.g. Some thought is needed to write it.

But this rule would need to spot ways around it. Like filling the message with full stops.

What I find useful, if I'm wishing to make initial contact, is when there's a subject word that has to be provided. This then proves I've actually read the profile which SM Spammers generally don't.

Then those that haven't bothered reading are easily identified.

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By *ouples_EroticaXXXCouple
45 weeks ago

manchester

"What might stop the Single Male spam is a restriction that the message must be at least X characters long. E.g. Some thought is needed to write it.

But this rule would need to spot ways around it. Like filling the message with full stops.

What I find useful, if I'm wishing to make initial contact, is when there's a subject word that has to be provided. This then proves I've actually read the profile which SM Spammers generally don't.

Then those that haven't bothered reading are easily identified. "

That’s why lots of profiles will ask for a key word in your message title.

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

"What might stop the Single Male spam is a restriction that the message must be at least X characters long. E.g. Some thought is needed to write it.

But this rule would need to spot ways around it. Like filling the message with full stops.

What I find useful, if I'm wishing to make initial contact, is when there's a subject word that has to be provided. This then proves I've actually read the profile which SM Spammers generally don't.

Then those that haven't bothered reading are easily identified. "

Noooooo. The long copy and paste messages are even worse!!! They trick me into thinking it's someone decent until 4 lines in she it clicks haha

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

Been on cam in chatroom had a few looking and talking but no offers for meets

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By *ima7893Man
45 weeks ago

Cardiff

Again, I would be very happy to pay a little more to use this site as a single male if a higher level of verification would mean better credibility as a single guy on the scene!

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By *endalshaggers OP Couple
45 weeks ago

Lake District

"That's really interesting experiment OP..and quite an eye opener for us single men I would suggest. We knew things got busy for couple/single females but that really brings it home.

The advice/illustration of how NOT to introduce oneself is also required reading..and of course no pics of one's parts!"

Why we did it, we were curious as the (albeit limited) interactions we've had with single males or the male half of a couple have been nothing but positive. However we keep seeing single male profiles being generally bashed in the forums. It was certainly an eye opener!

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By *loyd1982Man
45 weeks ago

Twickenham

I understood that it was a bit of a cattle market for single women and couples on here but those numbers are insane!

The people I’ve met here and elsewhere have all said similar. I think it must be most annoying when you specifically ask guys to ‘be creative’ or ‘don’t just send hi and a cock pic’ and they go ahead and do it anyway.

I’d have to echo what others have said here and wonder how these guys ever get to meet anybody? Is it just a numbers game.

I find it hard enough to meet people here as a single guy - perhaps the fact that every single woman and couple on here get bombarded with this kind of thing really isn’t helping my cause!

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By *rozac_fairyCouple
45 weeks ago

Birmingham

It is literally constant.

But occasionally, you find a fantastic guy! We swapped to club only meets which really elevated our "hunt" for single guys and made the process so much easier.

Granted, I know that's not for everyone ofcourse!

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By *rozac_fairyCouple
45 weeks ago

Birmingham

Literally noone said it was just single guys. Everyone is aware this site is full of entitled people regardless of gender and relationship status.

Why though, try and derail a conversation specifically about single guys and their messaging habits? Very strange thing to do, screams hasttag not all men.

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By *r TriomanMan
45 weeks ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

I conducted my own experiment over 10 years on Fab; in this time I've probably had less than 40 messages initiated by single females and/or couples. Of these, 80% where simply "Hi".

It would appear, that no matter what profile category we fall into on Fab, the standard of messages isn't always great and the volume isn't (mostly) to our satisfaction.

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By *ommander_StraxMan
45 weeks ago

Telford

Our couples profile is the same. There are times there was thousands of messages and there was just no chance, even worse when most of them were the same vulgar, boring drivel.

As for my singles profile, I tend to hardly message here unless I see something I like. But even then, it’s a numbers game. 99% of the time the message will be ignored, just because all single guys are lumped into the same “nice tits, look at my cock next to this Fanta can” rubbish.

It is what it is sadly!

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By *endalshaggers OP Couple
45 weeks ago

Lake District

Literally noone said it was just single guys. Everyone is aware this site is full of entitled people regardless of gender and relationship status.

Why though, try and derail a conversation specifically about single guys and their messaging habits? Very strange thing to do, screams hasttag not all men. "

Screams "damn, I am one of those who sends those type of messages, why am I not getting replies waaahhhh"

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By *rozac_fairyCouple
45 weeks ago

Birmingham

Literally noone said it was just single guys. Everyone is aware this site is full of entitled people regardless of gender and relationship status.

Why though, try and derail a conversation specifically about single guys and their messaging habits? Very strange thing to do, screams hasttag not all men.

Screams "damn, I am one of those who sends those type of messages, why am I not getting replies waaahhhh""

Right!? Like yes, we know, stay on topic.

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

It is quite insane.

The Mr did this as a single guy on fab 13-10 years ago. And it was hard going then.

The sheer volume of men- which has increased in the last decade just means you are deluged. Invariably with low effort profiles with 2 lines of tex and a 1 line "hi"

We don't tar them all with the same brush, we've noticed some outstaning single men on the forums. The exception rather than the norm tho.

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By *r_reusMan
45 weeks ago

Coventry

For the most part, I believe that when a couple of female requests an 'exceptional single male', 9 times out of 10 what they mean is a man with a basic level of physical and mental attractiveness.

That such men are considered 'exceptional' on this site is telling.

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

As an experiment last night, we turned on the filter back to allowing single male profiles to wink and message us.

Went to bed at 10pm, with 0 new winks and 1 unread message.

Logged on this morning to 124 winks and 97 messages - all but two winks from single males and all but 4 messages (including the message from last night) from single males.

Turned the filter back off, I can now see why some people have had problems or negative opinions!

I know it's not every single guy on here but some of them....it's absolutely no wonder they've had no meets or no luck!

C xxx "

I always read every profile and if I decide go message I would always be respectful, try and pick something out their profile what I like and try and get a conversation going. (Not that difficult really)

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By *heitaliandreamerMan
45 weeks ago

Northampton

I read every profile and my profile is well written and presented but most of women just dont give much importance. They just look at the pictures.

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By *ex HolesMan
45 weeks ago

Up North

As an experiment last night, we turned on the filter back to allowing single male profiles to wink and message us.

Went to bed at 10pm, with 0 new winks and 1 unread message.

Logged on this morning to 124 winks and 97 messages - all but two winks from single males and all but 4 messages (including the message from last night) from single males.

Turned the filter back off, I can now see why some people have had problems or negative opinions!

I know it's not every single guy on here but some of them....it's absolutely no wonder they've had no meets or no luck!

C xxx "

Was this experiment conducted under Sydney University conditions?

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By *ddie_14051991Man
45 weeks ago

Dunoon

I read every ones profile I look at , and I actually take the time to write decent messages and put effort in to them.

I write to couples addressing both and woman and I'm always respectful and attached a picture to the message.

Lot of single guys ruin it for single guys if that makes sense I get the feeling it automatically creates a stigma for single guys as well.

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By *ouples_EroticaXXXCouple
45 weeks ago

manchester

"I read every profile and my profile is well written and presented but most of women just dont give much importance. They just look at the pictures. "

Physical attracted is usually required during a sexual encounter, we it is for us anyways. So profile/personality and physical attraction are of equal importance, we won’t meet without both.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
45 weeks ago

Cumbria

"I read every profile and my profile is well written and presented but most of women just dont give much importance. They just look at the pictures. "

We look at both, I think most women do to be honest, or those we have spoken to at least.

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
45 weeks ago

East Sussex

Proof if it were needed that if you have no interest in being contacted by certain sections of fab that filters are the best way to avoid it.

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

Was this experiment conducted under Sydney University conditions? "

I really wish Fab forums had a laugh/like/dislike reaction button.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
45 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Proof if it were needed that if you have no interest in being contacted by certain sections of fab that filters are the best way to avoid it. "

You can lead a horse to water......

*not calling anyone a horse, obvs.....

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

Was this experiment conducted under Sydney University conditions?

I really wish Fab forums had a laugh/like/dislike reaction button.

That

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

As a single guy it’s funny when you come across a profile which bashes single guy messages when the only content in their profile is single male bashing and no other info about them, giving nothing for a single guy to build an intro message about.

It’s graft as a single guy when there are so many who are disrespectful etc.

Maybe this is a point where fab can modernise and level up, with improve verification for single males, such as having to submit id etc, and then putting more into the filters such as not permitting messages from outside of a mileage range, or anymore. There are many things that could be pinched from other sites and dating sites to bring fab forwards and ease service users frustrations

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By *empest2KMan
45 weeks ago

Derby

Was this experiment conducted under Sydney University conditions?

I really wish Fab forums had a laugh/like/dislike reaction button.

100% this!

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By *r SensualMan
45 weeks ago

London

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, for those who ARE interested in single men, the upstanding and respectable ones are usually very unlikely to be all up in people’s inboxes sending such drivel and nonsense.

They’re likely to message IF they see something of common ground that can (hopefully) initiate some conversation of substance.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
45 weeks ago

Cumbria

"As a single guy it’s funny when you come across a profile which bashes single guy messages when the only content in their profile is single male bashing and no other info about them, giving nothing for a single guy to build an intro message about.

It’s graft as a single guy when there are so many who are disrespectful etc.

Why would you want to meet someone who ‘bashes’ single males anyway?

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

It’s graft as a single guy when there are so many who are disrespectful etc.

Why would you want to meet someone who ‘bashes’ single males anyway?"

My point is that there seems to be a lot of profiles on fab that are basically very negative and don’t give anything a convo can be built from, but many of these profiles seem to be the ones who moan about getting messages with no substance. Conversation is always a two way street, one person can’t build a convo or send an engaging message with no context to work with

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
45 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

It’s graft as a single guy when there are so many who are disrespectful etc.

Why would you want to meet someone who ‘bashes’ single males anyway?

And these are the profiles where it's easy to not engage with.

There no point in approaching soneone with profile content you find negative or where there's an indication that you're not compatible.

Move on to another. Saves everyone time and effort.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
45 weeks ago

Cumbria

It’s graft as a single guy when there are so many who are disrespectful etc.

Why would you want to meet someone who ‘bashes’ single males anyway?

Their loss, not yours.

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

I didn’t say I was contacting them, I just acknowledged I’d seen such profiles and saw the pattern of negativity.

What I was trying to say was if there was a further effort for positivity rather than negativity on profiles, then maybe this may also reduce some of abusive messages and also discourage the “hi” and “ meet now suck me off” messages the disrespectful single males send

If there is nothing in the profile to build a convo from, then those profiles will only ever get the “fuck now” single male messages

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By *ddie_14051991Man
45 weeks ago

Dunoon

Or when you write a message engaging in conversations and get 3 word answers or sometimes a sentence hahah lol

Happend a few times, but at the same time I don't blame woman because if there receiving so much mail and spending age's sorting through I can 100% understand how that would be mentally draining and just not having the energy either.

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By *asisfan25Man
45 weeks ago

Essex

Not to sound maybe arrogant but I would sent you a much more well thought out message if i known.

I hate some of the messages people send on here

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By *rilingualMan
45 weeks ago

Guildford

So trust me. I understand the pain and disappointment you guys must feel. I gave up VERY quickly and felt really deflated and crap about myself.

Nail and head.

I've spent up to an hour reading a profile and writing a message only to have it deleted unread.

Only last week I had a message come in and my wee heart jumped for joy - it was a couple who showed some interest, they wanted a face pic.

I said there was one on my profile and they sent through their number.

I took a selfie and fired it over and the next thing I know I get a message saying I'm not what she's interested in.

They uploaded some photos a day later and jesus H corbitt, the state of it, the mess, the clutter, all that was needed was a pair of pants with some skids on the floor and we'd have been done. And that's before I start on what was spread on the sofa... My eyeballs needed counselling - and I'm no oil painting by any stretch.

So I just don't now. I want to write to so many women and couples, but I always feel that if i'm what they're after or of interest they'll come to me in the first instance, and in reality there's much better competition than me out there, so I'll go to some socials and if anyone like the make of me, they can talk to me there.

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

Not guilty your honour!

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By *ustagentMan
45 weeks ago

wa14

Hmmm some good points put by both sides, i get more messages from males than couples, obviously not read profile,and to be frank very desperate, i have more success in clubs as i think you cant beat meeting in the flesh, no photo shop what you see is what you get!and goofd banter and a laugh goes a long way and good luck too all!

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

Completely understand and sympathise with most women / couples on here there are a few genuine and really great guys but afraid lots of the dross can just knock the confidence that we aren’t all like that!

Completely different tastes make up fab which is why it’s a wonderful and diverse place but agree as I’ve even had it myself before where you just tire of it unfortunately

but we are out there in the minority it seems

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

Just had this conversation with a single man this evening. He'd messaged me earlier 'Want to fuck?' 'My name is ....' I ignored him. He then messages again asking why don't us ladies want him, all he gets is gay guys' interest.

I replied that first of all single women get huge amounts of messages, he needed to rethink his profile to stand out. Secondly I told him that if his attitude towards women on fab was poor it would show. The vast majority of women like myself aren't going to be dazzled by "Want to fuck?' There was no friendliness, intelligence, humour, warmth, effort involved x

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

As an experiment last night, we turned on the filter back to allowing single male profiles to wink and message us.

Went to bed at 10pm, with 0 new winks and 1 unread message.

Logged on this morning to 124 winks and 97 messages - all but two winks from single males and all but 4 messages (including the message from last night) from single males.

Turned the filter back off, I can now see why some people have had problems or negative opinions!

I know it's not every single guy on here but some of them....it's absolutely no wonder they've had no meets or no luck!

C xxx "

Ok my bad I always start with hi how are you both? As I feel this is polite but then I would go into a question and also send a picture of myself too. I would never send a message saying anything like fuck me or anything along those lines though that’s just weird

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By (user no longer on site)
45 weeks ago

"Just had this conversation with a single man this evening. He'd messaged me earlier 'Want to fuck?' 'My name is ....' I ignored him. He then messages again asking why don't us ladies want him, all he gets is gay guys' interest.

I tried giving someone advice once instead of ignoring him and I got told I was a patronising bitch and got blocked haha.

I'm sure he's having a wonderful time on fab.

I've also been called a racist bitch and to fuck off and die because I told somebody they weren't my type as a 'BBC'

Can only laugh but also wonder if the crap mechanics of this site led them to such defensive insecurities or if they were always assholes

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By *ike4256Man
45 weeks ago

Musselburgh

I can't speak for all men so will only speak to my experiences on here.

I have messaged dozens of women and couples on here with honest, polite, sometimes funny and always non crude introductions.....with little to none interest. I can only imagine the ratio of women/couples profiles to single men's profiles is extremely high. I get no messages and I hear all the time how women get hundreds.

Imagine being the single average guy who has to write an original and noteworthy introduction message a hundred times to get ignored anyway. So I can imagine men's frustrations as well as womens.

I don't know what the answer is if I did I'd probably get a reply to one of my messages lol I just thought it was worth mentioning.

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By *enSiskoMan
45 weeks ago

Cestus 3

I found my answer, hide my profile use the forums when I am up to nothing.

Go through my front door and go meet people old fashioned I know but hey it works.

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By *ookie_and_NookieCouple
45 weeks ago

Kent

I think we must have been quite lucky! We have never had single guys blocked despite the fact that for the first year and a half on here, we weren’t meeting single men. We’ve never been overwhelmed with messages other than when one of our videos managed to get to page one on hot pics. We have definitely had more than our fair share of ‘wanna fuck?’ ‘Your Mrs want dick?’ And the one word ‘hi’ messages. I’m not sure what those people think they’re going to get out of sending messages like that, I don’t imagine even sending 1,000 like that would get you one actual meet! We’ve also had a few men who couldn’t take no for an answer but that’s what the block function is for. What we get frustrated with is spending time chatting, arranging to meet and then being let down. I’ve booked more Dayuse hotels than I care to remember and we’ve had to cancel every single one so far!

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By *rivervaderMan
45 weeks ago

bolton

Don’t know why most blokes think it’s there right to be pushy or rude to females and couples just be nice and maybe you will get somewhere. But saying that I send respectable messages and still no joy maybe I have a shit profile

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By *rilingualMan
45 weeks ago

Guildford

"Don’t know why most blokes think it’s there right to be pushy or rude to females and couples just be nice and maybe you will get somewhere. But saying that I send respectable messages and still no joy maybe I have a shit profile "

the other side of it could be that the couple and lady in question see messages like ours after forty or fifty like the ones you've mentioned and just think fuck that, I'm not even going to open it.

That's why I've taken a back seat and not bothering at all, yes it's not ideal but rather that than spend hours reading, typing, sending to not get anything back apart from the odd "thanks for the lovely message" or "I'm not interested" and not have it go any further.

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By *dventuresWithOllieMan
45 weeks ago

sheffield

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By *dventuresWithOllieMan
45 weeks ago

sheffield

the other side of it could be that the couple and lady in question see messages like ours after forty or fifty like the ones you've mentioned and just think fuck that, I'm not even going to open it.

I have now adopted the same approach, as i was going slightly insane sending carefully crafted messages with no response.

As many profiles single/couples profiles suggest 'single men, we will find you'

So i have calmed and just wait, with the occasional crafted advance.

I think filtering out groups you dont want is the key i.e. the non validated/verified

There is just not much one can do as a single male in overly single male populated site... maybe make validation have more step perhaps...

Observe the trends on the site, act caccordingly and be polite.

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By *bi HaiveMan
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45 weeks ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

the other side of it could be that the couple and lady in question see messages like ours after forty or fifty like the ones you've mentioned and just think fuck that, I'm not even going to open it.

I have now adopted the same approach, as i was going slightly insane sending carefully crafted messages with no response.

As many profiles single/couples profiles suggest 'single men, we will find you'

So i have calmed and just wait, with the occasional crafted advance.

I think filtering out groups you dont want is the key i.e. the non validated/verified

There is just not much one can do as a single male in overly single male populated site... maybe make validation have more step perhaps...

Observe the trends on the site, act caccordingly and be polite. "

It's no secret that many will view a profile before opening a message sent from one.

So maybe it's worth spending more time creating a profile that attracts interest via words and pictures, and less time worrying about creating the perfect opening message?

A profile that catches the eye and gives an insight into the owner is far more likely to get a positive response from a message than a vague, limited one, even if the best message in the history of all Fab messages was sent.