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"So for those of you who play separately out of your long term relationship. How do you ensure that things never become 'more than sex.' Or is 'more than sex' allowed. So, I see a lot of people 'looking for someone they connect with' but also NSA. But also want to find them attractive and be able to trust them and also probably be friends. So. If a FWB is hot, makes you feel safe, fucks you good and you get on with them really well - how is that ever not 'more than sex' Bit deep for 1am. Sorry not sorry hah" I’m ethically non-monogamous so that’s always been part of the deal. I’ve never understood the idea of compartmentalising something as “just sex.” To me, I have to like a person to want to sleep with them. And if I like them then I have friendly feelings towards them. If a partner has a problem with me having friendly feelings towards someone then I suspect they’re going to have a problem with me having friends as well as other lovers/partners. And that’s abuse. Fundamentally I think feelings are wonderful. I have loving feelings for all my friends. I can’t just meet someone, enjoy their company, and not have loving feelings for them if they’re a person I want in my life because I enjoy their company. Ultimately, feelings are not finite. You don’t have a limited amount of feelings to dish out in your lift. They’re not a scarce resource. The more feelings you feel, the more you’ll be able to feel. And isn’t that a joyous thing to be able to do? Make people feel wanted and desired and loved? | |||
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"So for those of you who play separately out of your long term relationship. How do you ensure that things never become 'more than sex.' Or is 'more than sex' allowed. So, I see a lot of people 'looking for someone they connect with' but also NSA. But also want to find them attractive and be able to trust them and also probably be friends. So. If a FWB is hot, makes you feel safe, fucks you good and you get on with them really well - how is that ever not 'more than sex' Bit deep for 1am. Sorry not sorry hah" I have a long term fwb/lover, we are in love with each other, this happened naturally over time, we fancy each other, enjoy each others company and have the most amazing sex. My husband is aware of this and is massively supportive x | |||
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"you should know this before you even swing couples that swing are generally strong loving trusting couple who just know if you arnt sure the the question should be why are you swinging in the first place .. but saying that if you relationship is not strong then swinging will speed up the process of ending it sooner for most" I agree with why you're saying this as an outside point of view. Actually the reason I ask is because someone we have met have asked the question to me and insisted there was something more. They suggested that sex is 'Never' just sex. And I'm a horrific over thinker. So. I just wanted some sensible people to counteract it again. ![]() | |||
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"Nothing to be sorry for and it's a fair question. Both my wife and I play seperatly. Details on our couples account in my profile which really says more on our swinging than this oneIF you care to look. We play seperatly and together. Been together since our early 20s and swinging for much of our relationship. " Thankyou for taking the time to respond so in depth. That's so great to hear and it sounds like you guys have an awesome thing going. Lots to think about and much appreciated x | |||
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"So for those of you who play separately out of your long term relationship. How do you ensure that things never become 'more than sex.' Or is 'more than sex' allowed. So, I see a lot of people 'looking for someone they connect with' but also NSA. But also want to find them attractive and be able to trust them and also probably be friends. So. If a FWB is hot, makes you feel safe, fucks you good and you get on with them really well - how is that ever not 'more than sex' Bit deep for 1am. Sorry not sorry hah I’m ethically non-monogamous so that’s always been part of the deal. I’ve never understood the idea of compartmentalising something as “just sex.” To me, I have to like a person to want to sleep with them. And if I like them then I have friendly feelings towards them. If a partner has a problem with me having friendly feelings towards someone then I suspect they’re going to have a problem with me having friends as well as other lovers/partners. And that’s abuse. Fundamentally I think feelings are wonderful. I have loving feelings for all my friends. I can’t just meet someone, enjoy their company, and not have loving feelings for them if they’re a person I want in my life because I enjoy their company. Ultimately, feelings are not finite. You don’t have a limited amount of feelings to dish out in your lift. They’re not a scarce resource. The more feelings you feel, the more you’ll be able to feel. And isn’t that a joyous thing to be able to do? Make people feel wanted and desired and loved?" This is really interesting. Thankyou for sharing. I feel like this thread is going to get a lot of different dynamics | |||
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"We've always played together right from start but occasionally she's played solo with my permission , the only downside to it is once she played solo they expect it all the time to point it can ruin a decent swinging friendship .. they don't want to know me once she's been on her own . Finding a regular to meet us hard enough do from now on we're together .. if they don't like it they can always fuck off . It's like guys on here looking for couples then aks to meet wife solo .. WTF .. " I dunno. I think there are gems but few and far between. Both our male solo meets have been MFM to all be friends first and then we always keep the fact that we are a couple as part of the conversation and top of the priority list. If they weren't respectful of that then wouldn't have chosen them in the first place. They're men, of course they're gunna wanna fuck you're wife if you give them the option. But I also think there are tonnes of single guys on here just looking for single women and it's like fuck off back to tinder mate ![]() | |||
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"But I also think there are tonnes of single guys on here just looking for single women and it's like fuck off back to tinder mate ![]() You don't tend to find swingers on Tinder, that's why us solo swingers use sites designed for swingers to be able to network with other swingers. Like this one! | |||
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" You don't tend to find swingers on Tinder, that's why us solo swingers use sites designed for swingers to be able to network with other swingers. Like this one!" Oh I hear this loud and clear, but what I mean is, 2 of the men I've met with separately say they would never be NM when they actually find their partner. They just appreciate that other people are and want to find men to join in. This is one of the people who told me that they felt more and basically told me not to lie to myself that sex is 'always more' and why they never would share with someone they love | |||
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" You don't tend to find swingers on Tinder, that's why us solo swingers use sites designed for swingers to be able to network with other swingers. Like this one! Oh I hear this loud and clear, but what I mean is, 2 of the men I've met with separately say they would never be NM when they actually find their partner. They just appreciate that other people are and want to find men to join in. This is one of the people who told me that they felt more and basically told me not to lie to myself that sex is 'always more' and why they never would share with someone they love " Ah so, 'single men who want to meet women' are not actually the problem, but rather people who aren't committed to long-term non-monogamy are the problem. There's quite a few respected forum regulars who routinely say, in public and in private, that in a meaningful relationship they wouldn't be non-mongoamous. Both men and women. | |||
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"Interesting topic ![]() Very. As I'm very much I don't need the closeness... Mr does xx we aren't however playing separately just now x | |||
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"Interesting topic ![]() We are exactly the same. My man likes kisses etc but 'just fucking' he's still fine with. For me personally, sex without any connection or friendship might as well be a rabbit. Easier to do it myself hah | |||
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"I have a feeling it’s very hard to keep it to just sex over a long time " It can be for some but for others it can be just that. Sex and friendship. Been doing this with my wife for 28 years and honestly...never had an issue but some.of the women I've seen repeatedly may have a different take. I'm.just not aware of it... | |||
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"So for those of you who play separately out of your long term relationship. How do you ensure that things never become 'more than sex.' Or is 'more than sex' allowed. So, I see a lot of people 'looking for someone they connect with' but also NSA. But also want to find them attractive and be able to trust them and also probably be friends. So. If a FWB is hot, makes you feel safe, fucks you good and you get on with them really well - how is that ever not 'more than sex' Bit deep for 1am. Sorry not sorry hah" Yes we do !, more Tony than Cherry though. Our relationship is rock solid, no one else could put that asunder. We've talked about possible issues several times and how we'd deal with them (heard several nightmare stories from others). Tony has had a few long term naughty friendships and Cherry has played alone with friends we've met several times. Yes of course 'more than sex' feelings get involved just as they would for 'vanilla' friends yet we always put each other first. No insecurities, no jealousies, rock solid. | |||
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"...but if you want No Risk at all, monogamy is probably more your thing imho." Honestly I suspect as a percentage, more monogamous couples get divorced than non-monogamous couples. N | |||
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"Our agreement is that we would stop whatever we are doing if the connection outside of our marriage became romantic. Sexual chemistry, and friendship is perfectly OK however. We have been married 8 years though, and have 2 children. Anyone that knows us describes us as the perfect couple, we have such a solid foundation that we don't have any apprehensions or doubts whatsoever. " I think this would be our view If we played separately and agree sexual chemistry and friendship would be our limit. Anything more would be not acceptable Cali | |||
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"We've always played together right from start but occasionally she's played solo with my permission , the only downside to it is once she played solo they expect it all the time to point it can ruin a decent swinging friendship .. they don't want to know me once she's been on her own . Finding a regular to meet us hard enough do from now on we're together .. if they don't like it they can always fuck off . It's like guys on here looking for couples then aks to meet wife solo .. WTF .. " UPDATE . she's fucked off after 30 years . Sure she's fucking her old buddy . | |||
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