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"I’ve been on this site for a number of years, spent god knows how much on being a site supporter, I regularly message females and couples that I find attractive and yet still no luck actually arranging a meet. Id like to think that I’m of reasonable attractiveness, polite and well presented so where have I been going wrong all this time! " Referring to women as females would alone put me off any communication with you no matter how attractive you may be. Maybe some more thoughtfulness about how you communicate and how you present yourself and your view of others would be a good starting point… good luck! | |||
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"I’ve been on this site for a number of years, spent god knows how much on being a site supporter, I regularly message females and couples that I find attractive and yet still no luck actually arranging a meet. Id like to think that I’m of reasonable attractiveness, polite and well presented so where have I been going wrong all this time! Referring to women as females would alone put me off any communication with you no matter how attractive you may be. Maybe some more thoughtfulness about how you communicate and how you present yourself and your view of others would be a good starting point… good luck! " Some women really are just looking for reasons to bin guys off... | |||
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"I’ve been on this site for a number of years, spent god knows how much on being a site supporter, I regularly message females and couples that I find attractive and yet still no luck actually arranging a meet. Id like to think that I’m of reasonable attractiveness, polite and well presented so where have I been going wrong all this time! Referring to women as females would alone put me off any communication with you no matter how attractive you may be. Maybe some more thoughtfulness about how you communicate and how you present yourself and your view of others would be a good starting point… good luck! Some women really are just looking for reasons to bin guys off..." Or maybe they just want to be treated respectfully? | |||
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"I’ve been on this site for a number of years, spent god knows how much on being a site supporter, I regularly message females and couples that I find attractive and yet still no luck actually arranging a meet. Id like to think that I’m of reasonable attractiveness, polite and well presented so where have I been going wrong all this time! Referring to women as females would alone put me off any communication with you no matter how attractive you may be. Maybe some more thoughtfulness about how you communicate and how you present yourself and your view of others would be a good starting point… good luck! Some women really are just looking for reasons to bin guys off..." When we see what is on offer, we don't blame them. Do you?? Some of the single guys put absolutely no effort into their profile!! | |||
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"I’ve been on this site for a number of years, spent god knows how much on being a site supporter, I regularly message females and couples that I find attractive and yet still no luck actually arranging a meet. Id like to think that I’m of reasonable attractiveness, polite and well presented so where have I been going wrong all this time! Referring to women as females would alone put me off any communication with you no matter how attractive you may be. Maybe some more thoughtfulness about how you communicate and how you present yourself and your view of others would be a good starting point… good luck! Some women really are just looking for reasons to bin guys off... When we see what is on offer, we don't blame them. Do you?? Some of the single guys put absolutely no effort into their profile!!" And then wonder why they have no luck! | |||
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"I’ve been on this site for a number of years, spent god knows how much on being a site supporter, I regularly message females and couples that I find attractive and yet still no luck actually arranging a meet. Id like to think that I’m of reasonable attractiveness, polite and well presented so where have I been going wrong all this time! Referring to women as females would alone put me off any communication with you no matter how attractive you may be. Maybe some more thoughtfulness about how you communicate and how you present yourself and your view of others would be a good starting point… good luck! Some women really are just looking for reasons to bin guys off... When we see what is on offer, we don't blame them. Do you?? Some of the single guys put absolutely no effort into their profile!!" I've no idea about that, I don't look at guys profiles. I'm referring to this scenario, where the guy presumably is making an effort yet has still committed the mortal sin of referring to women as females | |||
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"I’ve been on this site for a number of years, spent god knows how much on being a site supporter, I regularly message females and couples that I find attractive and yet still no luck actually arranging a meet. Id like to think that I’m of reasonable attractiveness, polite and well presented so where have I been going wrong all this time! Referring to women as females would alone put me off any communication with you no matter how attractive you may be. Maybe some more thoughtfulness about how you communicate and how you present yourself and your view of others would be a good starting point… good luck! Some women really are just looking for reasons to bin guys off... When we see what is on offer, we don't blame them. Do you?? Some of the single guys put absolutely no effort into their profile!! I've no idea about that, I don't look at guys profiles. I'm referring to this scenario, where the guy presumably is making an effort yet has still committed the mortal sin of referring to women as females " Maybe you should take a look at profiles, there is almost always an answer there. | |||
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"I’ve been on this site for a number of years, spent god knows how much on being a site supporter, I regularly message females and couples that I find attractive and yet still no luck actually arranging a meet. Id like to think that I’m of reasonable attractiveness, polite and well presented so where have I been going wrong all this time! Referring to women as females would alone put me off any communication with you no matter how attractive you may be. Maybe some more thoughtfulness about how you communicate and how you present yourself and your view of others would be a good starting point… good luck! Some women really are just looking for reasons to bin guys off... When we see what is on offer, we don't blame them. Do you?? Some of the single guys put absolutely no effort into their profile!! I've no idea about that, I don't look at guys profiles. I'm referring to this scenario, where the guy presumably is making an effort yet has still committed the mortal sin of referring to women as females Maybe you should take a look at profiles, there is almost always an answer there." I'm not looking for an answer to anything, that's the OP. I'm just making an observation | |||
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"I’ve been on this site for a number of years, spent god knows how much on being a site supporter, I regularly message females and couples that I find attractive and yet still no luck actually arranging a meet. Id like to think that I’m of reasonable attractiveness, polite and well presented so where have I been going wrong all this time! " been here 10 years then covid fuck it up .past four years have been shit very little luck .then one day angel appears and now I'm all loved up .so anything can happen here.just hang in there | |||
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"And to be fair, OP, I doubt your choice of user name is doing you many favours" I doubt very much a user name has much too do with not being successful that's the least but information is important and isn't much but photos are ok | |||
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"OP, you may message, but your profile gets looked at before anything else, and it has nothing that stands out so why should you get a reply?" I'll be fair on this because I have chatted with few with so little on the bio but are friends off the site and yes guys need to up their game for the audience of women | |||
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"And to be fair, OP, I doubt your choice of user name is doing you many favours I doubt very much a user name has much too do with not being successful that's the least but information is important and isn't much but photos are ok " You'd be surprised. I've seen.numerous forum threads over the years where women and couples have made comments that particular types of user name would put them off of reading a message | |||
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"And to be fair, OP, I doubt your choice of user name is doing you many favours I doubt very much a user name has much too do with not being successful that's the least but information is important and isn't much but photos are ok You'd be surprised. I've seen.numerous forum threads over the years where women and couples have made comments that particular types of user name would put them off of reading a message" Might but some are over board but never judge a book by it's cover as I have chatted with women whom had two lines and are besties off the site as well | |||
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"I’ve been on this site for a number of years, spent god knows how much on being a site supporter, I regularly message females and couples that I find attractive and yet still no luck actually arranging a meet. Id like to think that I’m of reasonable attractiveness, polite and well presented so where have I been going wrong all this time! " To be honest mate, you can have a detailed profile with plenty of info, lots of public face pictures ,and it makes no difference what so ever . People say , have a detailed bio, have face pics ,blah, blah ,but in my experience on here ,if you havnt got any meet verifications, you have no chance | |||
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"I've seen a definite increase in the numbers of women that do not want to meet attached men which I think defeats the purpose of swinging. " The purpose of swinging is to cheat? | |||
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" Getting out to socials and clubs to get meet verifications helps get you known and seen as someone who turns up and actually does the things. And means less instant dismissal from the consideration pile by those who only have time to investigate those who look like a good " Not everyone is interested in clubs, or large organised socials. I would love a social meet for a coffee or a bite to eat in a public place,but a one on one social where you can concentrate on the person you are meeting. | |||
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"I'm part of a couple on here. When we feel "the urge", we just go to a club - it's so much less hassle than trying to organise something through here, and having to worry about accommodation and times everyone can make. When we've met people from here it's generally been when we're on holiday abroad and those issues don't really apply. It's also more secure at a club, because anyone we meet won't know how to find us again unless we swap details afterwards. And most clubs have a restricted single male membership, so they're doing the first filter for us. I'm sure there are couples that still arrange meets through here, but the growing availablity of clubs may mean there are a lot less than there used to be. " Exactly the same for us | |||
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"I'm part of a couple on here. When we feel "the urge", we just go to a club - it's so much less hassle than trying to organise something through here, and having to worry about accommodation and times everyone can make. When we've met people from here it's generally been when we're on holiday abroad and those issues don't really apply. It's also more secure at a club, because anyone we meet won't know how to find us again unless we swap details afterwards. And most clubs have a restricted single male membership, so they're doing the first filter for us. I'm sure there are couples that still arrange meets through here, but the growing availablity of clubs may mean there are a lot less than there used to be. " We actually prefer meeting couples from here in private homes. We find such meets more intimate, comfortable, relaxed and erotic. We like playing with bi couples which are less evident in clubs, especially in public play areas. We have had good times in clubs but normally when we are travelling. If we get the occasional urge to share a bi single man, there are plenty here to choose from. | |||
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"I’ve been on this site for a number of years, spent god knows how much on being a site supporter, I regularly message females and couples that I find attractive and yet still no luck actually arranging a meet. Id like to think that I’m of reasonable attractiveness, polite and well presented so where have I been going wrong all this time! " Your first picture you look like a convict but your last picture is better. Your pictures don't stand out at all and you come across as making little to no effort! Your profile is utterly boring and in absolutely no way stands out or adds what may be your personality. Stop moaning and start by making yourself stand out more! Harsh but it's the truth! | |||
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"I’ve been on this site for a number of years, spent god knows how much on being a site supporter, I regularly message females and couples that I find attractive and yet still no luck actually arranging a meet. Id like to think that I’m of reasonable attractiveness, polite and well presented so where have I been going wrong all this time! Your first picture you look like a convict but your last picture is better. Your pictures don't stand out at all and you come across as making little to no effort! Your profile is utterly boring and in absolutely no way stands out or adds what may be your personality. Stop moaning and start by making yourself stand out more! Harsh but it's the truth! " But saying all that we’ve had lenthy profiles, lots more pics blah blah blah and gota say having been in this site around 12 yrs it is dire lol just habit that brings us back deffo get to clubs that’s for sure | |||
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"Absolutely, clubs are where its at. When we do look for guys on here we want them to stand out." Private house parties used to be good,can’t find any these days how about u? | |||
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"Absolutely, clubs are where its at. When we do look for guys on here we want them to stand out. Private house parties used to be good,can’t find any these days how about u? " We split our time between chameleons and the attic mostly these days. Feel that it was fading away a few years ago then covid killed it. We've had guys turn up 2 minutes there done dressed and out the door. Lots of selfish guys on here now and it's a bit tinderish which is why we prefer the guys that stand out or we feel we'll just get the same old same old. | |||
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"Absolutely, clubs are where its at. When we do look for guys on here we want them to stand out." Can I ask why clubs are the holy grail for so many people .? I've never been to one ,and have no interest in doing so. I have read so many threads and posts from single blokes who said men get ripped off with the entrance fee ,get ignored all night as clubs are very cliquey and are basically aimed at couples and single females ,and single blokes are merely the cash cows allowed in to generate income on the door . | |||
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"More photos would help and yes cock photo as well…" I'd suggest a picture that shows you naked, and incidentally includes your cock, rather than a close-up. | |||
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"luck has nothing to do with it attraction and personalities are what people look for and only when thats found its about tick boxes if no ones interested then no ones interested as a guy you are also one of many and by many i do mean many look how many men have joined just this xmas period loads and loads" | |||
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"I’ve been on this site for a number of years, spent god knows how much on being a site supporter, I regularly message females and couples that I find attractive and yet still no luck actually arranging a meet. Id like to think that I’m of reasonable attractiveness, polite and well presented so where have I been going wrong all this time! " A single photo from 5 years ago isn't going to help instill trust and openness. Everyone has standards but I'd suggest yours are too high if you're not getting replies from people you find attractive.... | |||
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"Absolutely, clubs are where its at. When we do look for guys on here we want them to stand out. Can I ask why clubs are the holy grail for so many people .? I've never been to one ,and have no interest in doing so. I have read so many threads and posts from single blokes who said men get ripped off with the entrance fee ,get ignored all night as clubs are very cliquey and are basically aimed at couples and single females ,and single blokes are merely the cash cows allowed in to generate income on the door . " When people say "clubs are where it is at" they mean it is where they meet people. Nothing wrong with that but if you go to clubs a lot and pretty much only meet people at clubs and not privately then you can sometimes lose touch with life outside of clubs (and vice-versa). There must be at least half a dozen couples and single ladies looking for men today on my local updates - and I mean looking for sex today or this weekend and not a social. | |||
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"Absolutely, clubs are where its at. When we do look for guys on here we want them to stand out. Can I ask why clubs are the holy grail for so many people .? I've never been to one ,and have no interest in doing so. I have read so many threads and posts from single blokes who said men get ripped off with the entrance fee ,get ignored all night as clubs are very cliquey and are basically aimed at couples and single females ,and single blokes are merely the cash cows allowed in to generate income on the door . " We go to clubs regularly. We only play with single guys. Loads of single guys go to our local club and most are very successful. If you're reasonably good looking, nice, and understand what environment you're in, you are likely to enjoy your club experience. | |||
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"There must be at least half a dozen couples and single ladies looking for men today on my local updates - and I mean looking for sex today or this weekend and not a social. " And there's probably six hundred men in the same area, so most guys find it difficult to stand out. I don't agree with how single guys are treated at clubs but it's still the best option if you're not physically exceptional. | |||
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"Absolutely, clubs are where its at. When we do look for guys on here we want them to stand out. Can I ask why clubs are the holy grail for so many people .? I've never been to one ,and have no interest in doing so. I have read so many threads and posts from single blokes who said men get ripped off with the entrance fee ,get ignored all night as clubs are very cliquey and are basically aimed at couples and single females ,and single blokes are merely the cash cows allowed in to generate income on the door . We go to clubs regularly. We only play with single guys. Loads of single guys go to our local club and most are very successful. If you're reasonably good looking, nice, and understand what environment you're in, you are likely to enjoy your club experience. " .Thank you for your reply. | |||
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"There must be at least half a dozen couples and single ladies looking for men today on my local updates - and I mean looking for sex today or this weekend and not a social. And there's probably six hundred men in the same area, so most guys find it difficult to stand out. I don't agree with how single guys are treated at clubs but it's still the best option if you're not physically exceptional." Had a look at local meets in my area advertised today ,as advised to do by a successful guy who has replied to me in this thread (and i thank him for his advice) ,and everyone posted by couples were looking for a couple or single woman. None were looking for single blokes ,and the meets posted by single women were wanting either BBC ,or gym fit guys . | |||
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"Absolutely, clubs are where its at. When we do look for guys on here we want them to stand out. Can I ask why clubs are the holy grail for so many people .? I've never been to one ,and have no interest in doing so. I have read so many threads and posts from single blokes who said men get ripped off with the entrance fee ,get ignored all night as clubs are very cliquey and are basically aimed at couples and single females ,and single blokes are merely the cash cows allowed in to generate income on the door . " I went to a club on New Years Eve and played with three single men | |||
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"Absolutely, clubs are where its at. When we do look for guys on here we want them to stand out. Can I ask why clubs are the holy grail for so many people .? I've never been to one ,and have no interest in doing so. I have read so many threads and posts from single blokes who said men get ripped off with the entrance fee ,get ignored all night as clubs are very cliquey and are basically aimed at couples and single females ,and single blokes are merely the cash cows allowed in to generate income on the door . I went to a club on New Years Eve and played with three single men" All there seems to be in my area are club meets and organised socials ,which I'm not interested in .I look daily on local meets list, but no one ever advertises a one on one social, or advertises a meet looking for a single bloke for a one on one meet. | |||
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"I’ve been on this site for a number of years, spent god knows how much on being a site supporter, I regularly message females and couples that I find attractive and yet still no luck actually arranging a meet. Id like to think that I’m of reasonable attractiveness, polite and well presented so where have I been going wrong all this time! " You're not me | |||
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"Absolutely, clubs are where its at. When we do look for guys on here we want them to stand out. Can I ask why clubs are the holy grail for so many people .? I've never been to one ,and have no interest in doing so. I have read so many threads and posts from single blokes who said men get ripped off with the entrance fee ,get ignored all night as clubs are very cliquey and are basically aimed at couples and single females ,and single blokes are merely the cash cows allowed in to generate income on the door . I went to a club on New Years Eve and played with three single men All there seems to be in my area are club meets and organised socials ,which I'm not interested in .I look daily on local meets list, but no one ever advertises a one on one social, or advertises a meet looking for a single bloke for a one on one meet. " Maybe you need to look at how you're going about things? If being Veri'd is all important to you and you can't do it by a 1-2-1 social then just go to a club. Surely it can't be that difficult for you? | |||
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"Absolutely, clubs are where its at. When we do look for guys on here we want them to stand out. Can I ask why clubs are the holy grail for so many people .? I've never been to one ,and have no interest in doing so. I have read so many threads and posts from single blokes who said men get ripped off with the entrance fee ,get ignored all night as clubs are very cliquey and are basically aimed at couples and single females ,and single blokes are merely the cash cows allowed in to generate income on the door . " At a club you meet people; no endless to and fro messaging. If you arrange something and the other party doesn't turn up you can still have a good night and not wasted a journey. Yes, some clubs charge more for single males but not all clubs do. There have been many threads about pricing so no need to start that again here. If you go to a pub you've never been to before there will no doubt be regulars who know the staff by name and know lots of people there already; is that a clique? Sure if you attend a club for the first time you might not know anyone; this is where your social skills come into play. Go and chat, introduce yourself. Unless you expect to go and have lots of sex without even bothering to talk to anyone. We, as lots of other couples, go and Mrs is more than happy to play with single men. In some respects that easier than arranging to play with couples. If you are after a verification a club or a social is as good a place to start as any. | |||
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"Absolutely, clubs are where its at. When we do look for guys on here we want them to stand out. Can I ask why clubs are the holy grail for so many people .? I've never been to one ,and have no interest in doing so. I have read so many threads and posts from single blokes who said men get ripped off with the entrance fee ,get ignored all night as clubs are very cliquey and are basically aimed at couples and single females ,and single blokes are merely the cash cows allowed in to generate income on the door . " Ok, clubs have charged more for single guys for over 20 years. I would say clubs are what you make them. I enjoy watching so for me I am happy to wander around a club seeing what is happening. Don’t get me wrong I do play openly as well in the dungeon more so but that’s where I feel comfy. Normally my bdsm kit stimulates discussion, however I have had people that have said they will not play with me because of it. Often I will reply with oh we don’t have to use the kit, I play vanilla, oh no thank you. I know couples that will only play with women other couples but will still say hello to me because i am at the club. Clubs are tricky I would say, fine line between assertive and pushy. | |||
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