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"All depends on whether they expected me to pay at the end of the date. I might be a bit hacked off then!" Not yet but seems like it will be the case if I go on second date lol | |||
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"All depends on whether they expected me to pay at the end of the date. I might be a bit hacked off then! Not yet but seems like it will be the case if I go on second date lol" Ah ok. In that case it becomes a bit more like a business transaction. But I agree they should have been more upfront about it. | |||
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"All depends on whether they expected me to pay at the end of the date. I might be a bit hacked off then! Not yet but seems like it will be the case if I go on second date lol" Has she strongly implied that or is that you assuming? Especially is she WAS a sex worker rather than one now. Many years ago I went on dates in Japan with an ex-porn star and lady who offered massages with happy endings. Neither wanted any money - if was just casual dating. You might be letting your mind run away with things. | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made " the obvious question to be asked, is how do you know about it if she hasnt said anything to you. | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made the obvious question to be asked, is how do you know about it if she hasnt said anything to you." I think he meant that he would have like to have know BEFORE the date. Guessing he found out on the date. | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made " Do you expect dates to declare that they were a plumber or a nurse in the past? What difference would it make to your dating experience? Without more explanation, respectfully, I think you are judging. Whatever people did or were in the past should not have any impact in the quality of the time you have with that person. | |||
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"All depends on whether they expected me to pay at the end of the date. I might be a bit hacked off then! Not yet but seems like it will be the case if I go on second date lol" Make up your mind please. Are they a sex worker now or not any more? Us this person charging you for sex? Or you think you will or might be charged on second date? And if they say yes, it's your choice. You had a date, you enjoyed, you did not pay. All happy. | |||
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"Sex workers are people too, so it’s not unreasonable that they want to date. Their career doesn’t preclude them from that. If you don’t want to date sex workers it’s probably best that you ask what people do for a living before you arrange a date. That way no one is disappointed. " I do ask people what they do and also open and upfront about me including me being a swinger I don’t have a problem with people doing sex work .but I don’t want to go on a date where they are only doing it for financial gain | |||
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"This thread is going all over the place. OP... Have you met this woman in person and have you had sex with her? If so, has she charged you money?" I did and off course I I will not pay and leave the date.i have not had sex yet but suspect if do money will get involved one way or another and after posting this I just deleted the number lol end of issue .but do feel people should be upfront | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made " Isn't this judging ? | |||
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"Is the date just a meet for sex, or with intention for something longer term. If the former then no, if the latter then yes i would want to know by at least the third date. i am as honest as i can be with women i meet and expect the samez if i found this out on say date 10, after months of chatting and meeting i would likely feel they had witheld the information for negative reasons. For everyone saying people history doesn't matter at all, for some people it does. liek everyothing else, we all have our own preferences and expectations." I agree. I'd have reservations about dating a sex worker but there are other occupations I feel that way about too for many reasons. | |||
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"Is the date just a meet for sex, or with intention for something longer term. If the former then no, if the latter then yes i would want to know by at least the third date. i am as honest as i can be with women i meet and expect the samez if i found this out on say date 10, after months of chatting and meeting i would likely feel they had witheld the information for negative reasons. For everyone saying people history doesn't matter at all, for some people it does. liek everyothing else, we all have our own preferences and expectations. I agree. I'd have reservations about dating a sex worker but there are other occupations I feel that way about too for many reasons. " Like Traffic Wardens. | |||
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"Was your 'date' arranged through fab? If so, you should report their profile as they would be in breach of site rules" Ah c’mon!!! Long as it wasn’t mentioned in conversation here then that is super harsh!!!! | |||
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"Was your 'date' arranged through fab? If so, you should report their profile as they would be in breach of site rules" They haven't asked for money so they've done nothing wrong. Sex workers can use fab the same rules apply to them as everyone else, no soliciting or asking for expenses or gifts. | |||
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"I think what someone does for a living is very personal and private. Nobody has any right to know such intrusive personal information. It's a legitimate profession and entirely above board. Plus divulging very intimate details isn't potentially safe for some people " Strange then, when one of the first questions any woman has ever asked when on a date is...... thats right... you can smell it comming..... What do you do for a living? Ig i said thats a very personal piece of information, it is highly unlikely date two would occur. | |||
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"It sounds like a miscommunication, you believe you are on a date, she thinks you are a client. " Lol it’s turned out that way luckily I got away with buying couple drinks dropping her home and blocking the number.i have no problem with their work I would have even dated regardless but thing I cannot bear lying for no reason but it’s done and dusted | |||
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"Get an STD test." why would he need to do that... he didn't have sex and even if he had. Why would he need to jaut because she was a sex worker x | |||
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"It sounds like a miscommunication, you believe you are on a date, she thinks you are a client. Lol it’s turned out that way luckily I got away with buying couple drinks dropping her home and blocking the number.i have no problem with their work I would have even dated regardless but thing I cannot bear lying for no reason but it’s done and dusted " I'm confused. So from where did you make contact? Did she actually ask for money? How did she lie? Did you ask her if she was a sex worker and she said no? Did she tell you beforehand she did something else? We are missing some information here All done and dusted but not sure how we can comment on your thread without the key information | |||
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"Why is it something they need to declare on a date?" The past is nothing to do with a new relationship | |||
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"Get an STD test. why would he need to do that... he didn't have sex and even if he had. Why would he need to jaut because she was a sex worker x" Sex workers world be tested more often and less likely to risk bare | |||
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"Get an STD test. why would he need to do that... he didn't have sex and even if he had. Why would he need to jaut because she was a sex worker x" Unless std is airborne I am Safe lol | |||
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"I think what someone does for a living is very personal and private. Nobody has any right to know such intrusive personal information. It's a legitimate profession and entirely above board. Plus divulging very intimate details isn't potentially safe for some people " If the date is currently working as a sex worker, even if she is romantically and not financially involved with the OP, I feel he has a right to know before. If she is looking for customers, it's definitely something that should be mentioned If she was a sex-worker, but has now got a new career, it's none of OPs business I've had fab meets with sex workers, in a non-professional setting. Lovely women, generally. | |||
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"Get an STD test. why would he need to do that... he didn't have sex and even if he had. Why would he need to jaut because she was a sex worker x Sex workers world be tested more often and less likely to risk bare" that's what I was thinking x | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made " What exactly would the informed decision be? Does someone need to share their entire work history on the off chance that you are unwilling to sleep with ex-traffice wardens? | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made What exactly would the informed decision be? Does someone need to share their entire work history on the off chance that you are unwilling to sleep with ex-traffice wardens?" If I give full disclosure including swinging it will be nice if some one said I am seeing clients and will see you the 2 hours I am free and not treat me like an idiot .I have no problem with their work but don’t like to be treated like a fool. | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made What exactly would the informed decision be? Does someone need to share their entire work history on the off chance that you are unwilling to sleep with ex-traffice wardens? If I give full disclosure including swinging it will be nice if some one said I am seeing clients and will see you the 2 hours I am free and not treat me like an idiot .I have no problem with their work but don’t like to be treated like a fool. " Do you honestly think that would happen though? | |||
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"This thread is going all over the place. OP... Have you met this woman in person and have you had sex with her? If so, has she charged you money? I did and off course I I will not pay and leave the date.i have not had sex yet but suspect if do money will get involved one way or another and after posting this I just deleted the number lol end of issue .but do feel people should be upfront " You've decided to delete her number because you "suspect" money will be involved. Maybe she just wants to date? | |||
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"I don't think what she's does/did for a living should influence if you date someone. And it's just that, dating. If she was gonna charge, she'd charge for the first date too and upfront " I think it does make a difference depending on what you want from the date. There are a lot of sex workers IF TicTockers on here who use this site to get business. | |||
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"Get an STD test. why would he need to do that... he didn't have sex and even if he had. Why would he need to jaut because she was a sex worker x Sex workers world be tested more often and less likely to risk bare" According to a study reported in the BMJ, female sex workers have a higher incidence of certain STIs than similar aged women in the general population. In female street sex workers, the incidence of STIs was 9-60 times higher. | |||
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"Get an STD test. why would he need to do that... he didn't have sex and even if he had. Why would he need to jaut because she was a sex worker x Sex workers world be tested more often and less likely to risk bareAccording to a study reported in the BMJ, female sex workers have a higher incidence of certain STIs than similar aged women in the general population. In female street sex workers, the incidence of STIs was 9-60 times higher. " Street workers not sex workers | |||
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"This thread is going all over the place. OP... Have you met this woman in person and have you had sex with her? If so, has she charged you money? I did and off course I I will not pay and leave the date.i have not had sex yet but suspect if do money will get involved one way or another and after posting this I just deleted the number lol end of issue .but do feel people should be upfront You've decided to delete her number because you "suspect" money will be involved. Maybe she just wants to date?" I think 80 pounds worth of drinks where i only had 1 pint and then putting makeup in my car after to see a supposed friend in a hotel bar was a good enough indications lol | |||
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"Get an STD test. why would he need to do that... he didn't have sex and even if he had. Why would he need to jaut because she was a sex worker x Sex workers world be tested more often and less likely to risk bare" Hmmm. Not sure this is 100% accurate as money talks. | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made What exactly would the informed decision be? Does someone need to share their entire work history on the off chance that you are unwilling to sleep with ex-traffice wardens? If I give full disclosure including swinging it will be nice if some one said I am seeing clients and will see you the 2 hours I am free and not treat me like an idiot .I have no problem with their work but don’t like to be treated like a fool. " Ah, you mean they currently are a sex worker? My mistake - I read your questions as implying they *were* (in the past) a sex worker, but not any more. Either way, how do you know they are planning to charge you? Sex workers go on 'normal' dates as well. | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made " No. You should ask everything you want to know before fucking someone | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made What exactly would the informed decision be? Does someone need to share their entire work history on the off chance that you are unwilling to sleep with ex-traffice wardens? If I give full disclosure including swinging it will be nice if some one said I am seeing clients and will see you the 2 hours I am free and not treat me like an idiot .I have no problem with their work but don’t like to be treated like a fool. Ah, you mean they currently are a sex worker? My mistake - I read your questions as implying they *were* (in the past) a sex worker, but not any more. Either way, how do you know they are planning to charge you? Sex workers go on 'normal' dates as well." I would say sex workers eiukd not go on s normal date. They see evey date as a possible trick. They would always be manipulating you one way or another. Or if you dated them they wouldn't have sex with you but expect to have everything paid fir them. They are in a very cynical business and it takes a certain mindset. | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made What exactly would the informed decision be? Does someone need to share their entire work history on the off chance that you are unwilling to sleep with ex-traffice wardens? If I give full disclosure including swinging it will be nice if some one said I am seeing clients and will see you the 2 hours I am free and not treat me like an idiot .I have no problem with their work but don’t like to be treated like a fool. Ah, you mean they currently are a sex worker? My mistake - I read your questions as implying they *were* (in the past) a sex worker, but not any more. Either way, how do you know they are planning to charge you? Sex workers go on 'normal' dates as well. I would say sex workers eiukd not go on s normal date. They see evey date as a possible trick. They would always be manipulating you one way or another. Or if you dated them they wouldn't have sex with you but expect to have everything paid fir them. They are in a very cynical business and it takes a certain mindset. " I think that's a pretty harsh and generic statement. Sex workers are people too. I think as long as you have a open and honest relationship just like any other it can work. | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made What exactly would the informed decision be? Does someone need to share their entire work history on the off chance that you are unwilling to sleep with ex-traffice wardens? If I give full disclosure including swinging it will be nice if some one said I am seeing clients and will see you the 2 hours I am free and not treat me like an idiot .I have no problem with their work but don’t like to be treated like a fool. Ah, you mean they currently are a sex worker? My mistake - I read your questions as implying they *were* (in the past) a sex worker, but not any more. Either way, how do you know they are planning to charge you? Sex workers go on 'normal' dates as well. I would say sex workers eiukd not go on s normal date. They see evey date as a possible trick. They would always be manipulating you one way or another. Or if you dated them they wouldn't have sex with you but expect to have everything paid fir them. They are in a very cynical business and it takes a certain mindset. " ..I can tell you all the girls an guys I know that work in this industry aren't like that | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made What exactly would the informed decision be? Does someone need to share their entire work history on the off chance that you are unwilling to sleep with ex-traffice wardens? If I give full disclosure including swinging it will be nice if some one said I am seeing clients and will see you the 2 hours I am free and not treat me like an idiot .I have no problem with their work but don’t like to be treated like a fool. Ah, you mean they currently are a sex worker? My mistake - I read your questions as implying they *were* (in the past) a sex worker, but not any more. Either way, how do you know they are planning to charge you? Sex workers go on 'normal' dates as well. I would say sex workers eiukd not go on s normal date. They see evey date as a possible trick. They would always be manipulating you one way or another. Or if you dated them they wouldn't have sex with you but expect to have everything paid fir them. They are in a very cynical business and it takes a certain mindset. " I think that’s a bit of a reach | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made What exactly would the informed decision be? Does someone need to share their entire work history on the off chance that you are unwilling to sleep with ex-traffice wardens? If I give full disclosure including swinging it will be nice if some one said I am seeing clients and will see you the 2 hours I am free and not treat me like an idiot .I have no problem with their work but don’t like to be treated like a fool. Ah, you mean they currently are a sex worker? My mistake - I read your questions as implying they *were* (in the past) a sex worker, but not any more. Either way, how do you know they are planning to charge you? Sex workers go on 'normal' dates as well. I would say sex workers eiukd not go on s normal date. They see evey date as a possible trick. They would always be manipulating you one way or another. Or if you dated them they wouldn't have sex with you but expect to have everything paid fir them. They are in a very cynical business and it takes a certain mindset. " That’s absolute horse shit buddy | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made What exactly would the informed decision be? Does someone need to share their entire work history on the off chance that you are unwilling to sleep with ex-traffice wardens?" I hope not because it would be a long conversation, I've got a low boredom threshold and have had a lot of jobs! | |||
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"Get an STD test. why would he need to do that... he didn't have sex and even if he had. Why would he need to jaut because she was a sex worker x Sex workers world be tested more often and less likely to risk bareAccording to a study reported in the BMJ, female sex workers have a higher incidence of certain STIs than similar aged women in the general population. In female street sex workers, the incidence of STIs was 9-60 times higher. " That's on the sreet so they were probably crack whores | |||
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"I would say sex workers eiukd not go on s normal date. They see evey date as a possible trick. They would always be manipulating you one way or another. Or if you dated them they wouldn't have sex with you but expect to have everything paid fir them. They are in a very cynical business and it takes a certain mindset. " Absolute tosh built on nothing but presumption. I think you'll find that it is you being cynical. | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made " Well I have not read the whole thread but personally I'd find it interesting and probably have very many questions most inappropriate. I would think that most sex worker's have some very interesting stories to tell. | |||
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"Get an STD test. why would he need to do that... he didn't have sex and even if he had. Why would he need to jaut because she was a sex worker x Sex workers world be tested more often and less likely to risk bareAccording to a study reported in the BMJ, female sex workers have a higher incidence of certain STIs than similar aged women in the general population. In female street sex workers, the incidence of STIs was 9-60 times higher. That's on the sreet so they were probably crack whores" The paper didn’t use such terms. The 9-60 times higher was for street sex workers but more generally also found a higher incidence of STIs than the general population of all sex workers when comparing them amongst women that visited sexual health clinics. I was responding to an evidence free assertion with some data because I was interested to know whether that assertion was correct. | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made " Any "Not judging but..." always ends with a judgement doesn't it? | |||
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"Any "Not judging but..." always ends with a judgement doesn't it?" Yes, but to be fair, so does every sentence that doesn't start with those words. The whole point of a forum is to discuss opinions, and every opinion is based on a judgement. Otherwise we would have every post being "I don't know"! | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made " No, it’s a private matter. | |||
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"Sounds like she dodged a bullet by having you block her number to me. She would have ended up with a pre-emptively judgemental person who can’t see outside the small mind he has. Paranoid isn’t the word. lol." This | |||
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"Sounds like she dodged a bullet by having you block her number to me. She would have ended up with a pre-emptively judgemental person who can’t see outside the small mind he has. Paranoid isn’t the word. lol." This | |||
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"It is in her past…. Is she not allowed to move on. You’re going on a date to find out about each other and if you get a long. You might find that she is more honest than most and she probably didn’t want you to prejudge her. Have you declared that you are a swinger?" Exactly a great point to make what you said. To the OP you're into Swinging so why if someone who is/was a sex worker being Judged? Or a concern..geniune question. Everyone has a back story and we are all individuals. Curious do you attend swing clubs ? Meet people off here ? You issues with club owners or hosts in clubs ? As all sex related doesn't mean we are bad people | |||
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"We need context OP." Well if you read what the OP actually said, then he never criticises her for being a sex worker. What he criticises her for is making it appear initially this was a romantic date, and then making it clear to him that if it was going to go any further he would have to pay. I don't see how anyone can condone that. Now you may think that he's picked up the wrong end of the stick, and even I wonder if she was just being exploitative, but frankly that's not the point, because none of us will ever know what really happened. I think if someone asks a question in "Swinging Advice", we should try and answer the actual question, and do less of the attacking the OP for things they didn't say. | |||
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"I don't think what she's does/did for a living should influence if you date someone " Yea I'm not gonna have a partner that will put it out for cash. I don't care that people say that being a sex worker is just another job. It comes with very real emotional and physical risks. The vast majority of sex workers already have issues, mental, drug or otherwise. Those that think different believe the glam images on film n tv are the norm. | |||
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"Before replying to posts that have had a lot of answers anyway, it's helpful to read what others have said before and any clarifications from the OPs. Some of the replies here clearly have ignored what the OP has added and responded later on and have been even more judgemental than what the OP question appeared to be initially, at face value. " I’m not surprised that Op is at it again. From complain about how loose some women Vagina are to calling everyone on fab stupid to complaining no one played with him at club when he payed lots of money for entrance. Just to mention few. You can call it a curse of green arrow or check posts below https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/1478694 https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/1159049 https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/1415287#message_35986744 | |||
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" I’m not surprised that Op is at it again. From complain about how loose some women Vagina are to calling everyone on fab stupid to complaining no one played with him at club when he payed lots of money for entrance. Just to mention few. You can call it a curse of green arrow or check posts below https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/1478694 https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/1159049 https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/1415287#message_35986744 " Ah, the great filter again | |||
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"Before replying to posts that have had a lot of answers anyway, it's helpful to read what others have said before and any clarifications from the OPs. Some of the replies here clearly have ignored what the OP has added and responded later on and have been even more judgemental than what the OP question appeared to be initially, at face value. I’m not surprised that Op is at it again. From complain about how loose some women Vagina are to calling everyone on fab stupid to complaining no one played with him at club when he payed lots of money for entrance. Just to mention few. You can call it a curse of green arrow or check posts below https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/1478694 https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/1159049 https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/1415287#message_35986744 " __ Taking good note | |||
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"This thread is going all over the place. OP... Have you met this woman in person and have you had sex with her? If so, has she charged you money? I did and off course I I will not pay and leave the date.i have not had sex yet but suspect if do money will get involved one way or another and after posting this I just deleted the number lol end of issue .but do feel people should be upfront You've decided to delete her number because you "suspect" money will be involved. Maybe she just wants to date? I think 80 pounds worth of drinks where i only had 1 pint and then putting makeup in my car after to see a supposed friend in a hotel bar was a good enough indications lol " 80 pounds of drinks? In weight? | |||
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"Before replying to posts that have had a lot of answers anyway, it's helpful to read what others have said before and any clarifications from the OPs. Some of the replies here clearly have ignored what the OP has added and responded later on and have been even more judgemental than what the OP question appeared to be initially, at face value. I’m not surprised that Op is at it again. From complain about how loose some women Vagina are to calling everyone on fab stupid to complaining no one played with him at club when he payed lots of money for entrance. Just to mention few. You can call it a curse of green arrow or check posts below https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/1478694 https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/1159049 https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/clubs/1415287#message_35986744 " I do stand by what ever said before .I didn’t complain about the vagaina but stated the fact.also like everyone else I have every right to rate a night in a club where I stated a fact again that they did not limit and number as usual some one said I was complaining that I did not get to play and club is like a scared cow that no one say any thing .money thing I cannot bothered to answer that one .if some one call me names I will not stay quite even and happy to deal with key board warriors lol .My face picture are not hidden so not hiding behind any thing and green arrow lol | |||
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"We need context OP. Well if you read what the OP actually said, then he never criticises her for being a sex worker. What he criticises her for is making it appear initially this was a romantic date, and then making it clear to him that if it was going to go any further he would have to pay. I don't see how anyone can condone that. Now you may think that he's picked up the wrong end of the stick, and even I wonder if she was just being exploitative, but frankly that's not the point, because none of us will ever know what really happened. I think if someone asks a question in "Swinging Advice", we should try and answer the actual question, and do less of the attacking the OP for things they didn't say." And that’s a sensible answer instead of personal attack | |||
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"I don't think what she's does/did for a living should influence if you date someone Yea I'm not gonna have a partner that will put it out for cash. I don't care that people say that being a sex worker is just another job. It comes with very real emotional and physical risks. The vast majority of sex workers already have issues, mental, drug or otherwise. Those that think different believe the glam images on film n tv are the norm. " that's rather judgemental. I know a vast number of sex workers that are business women that happen to love sex. I don't know any that have any issues and a vast amount i see socially at events across the country as they enjoy swinging just the same as anyone else | |||
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"Why is it something they need to declare on a date?" . If they’re going to charge you for it, yes. | |||
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"Sex workers literally lie to people for a living and a leopard doesn’t change its spots! Lucky escape OP!" Lie in what way? They tell you how much, have sex with you and that's it. Where's the lie? | |||
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"I’d give her a five star rating on trip advisor " fuck I nearly spill3d my beer | |||
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"Sex workers literally lie to people for a living and a leopard doesn’t change its spots! Lucky escape OP! what makes you say that x" Do men really think that sex workers enjoy every encounter they have? They are there to take a gullible man’s money and tell him how fantastic he is in bed to ensure he comes back! Fair play to them though | |||
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"Sex workers literally lie to people for a living and a leopard doesn’t change its spots! Lucky escape OP! what makes you say that x Do men really think that sex workers enjoy every encounter they have? They are there to take a gullible man’s money and tell him how fantastic he is in bed to ensure he comes back! Fair play to them though its not a gullible man's money, no one is forced to part with their money... have you ever booked a aex worker or got friends who are? It's more like acting a part... and no not every encounter is great... but you would be surprised how many decent meets can be had.. Gullible as in the sex worker is only interested in their money and no never have and never would, very much each to their own " that's not entirely true... some will be doing it as they enjoy it. And gullible means you don't know your doing something. I'm sure anyone paying is aware they are paying for a service. Same as If you book a cleaner etc | |||
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"Sex workers literally lie to people for a living and a leopard doesn’t change its spots! Lucky escape OP!" Sex workers literally have sexually-charged encounters for a living. They're not 'lying' any more than a primary school teacher lies when they tell their kids about Santa. They are playing a previously prescribed role. | |||
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"Sex workers literally lie to people for a living and a leopard doesn’t change its spots! Lucky escape OP!" I think you're getting them mixed up with politicians. Maybe because both take your money and then screw you? | |||
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"We need context OP. Well if you read what the OP actually said, then he never criticises her for being a sex worker. What he criticises her for is making it appear initially this was a romantic date, and then making it clear to him that if it was going to go any further he would have to pay. I don't see how anyone can condone that. Now you may think that he's picked up the wrong end of the stick, and even I wonder if she was just being exploitative, but frankly that's not the point, because none of us will ever know what really happened. I think if someone asks a question in "Swinging Advice", we should try and answer the actual question, and do less of the attacking the OP for things they didn't say." I agree with you here, and the OP could probably have been clearer about this thread he has opened…. I wouldn’t have been impressed to discover my ‘date’ was actually a sex worker, so then the second ‘date’ was going to cost me money. If I wanted to book an esc*rt, I know where to find one. Fab is for consenting adults to enjoy the swinging lifestyle, and if this ‘lady’ arranges meets through Fab, which then leads to asking for payment, she should be reported to the admin team | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made " So long as she isn’t expecting you to p@y for sex, what does it matter? | |||
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"Sex workers literally lie to people for a living and a leopard doesn’t change its spots! Lucky escape OP!" Just a quick question, what do you think I would lie about? | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made So long as she isn’t expecting you to p@y for sex, what does it matter?" Exactly He is complaining because he had to spend £80 on drinks and he guessed this because she puts makeup on before meeting someone at a bar. Not to mention on a different thread Op complained about woman’s vagina too loose after a meet. There is no excuse for Judgemental, appalling and narcissistic behaviour like this | |||
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"I mean, we are just normal people. And it's just a job. Sex worker is a huge umbrella term too, I'm not a full service worker, I'm a Dominatrix. But the general term comes with so many facets. I don't think I've ever planned a date and felt an immediate need to tell someone my employment status or job description BEFORE a date, that's all conversation to have on the actual date isn't it? " I never tell dates what my job is either. None of their business. | |||
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"Unless your date is from Fab, do you tell them you’re a swinger? " Nope. But I don’t define myself as a swinger lol. I’ll tell them I’ve been to sex clubs when it comes up. But don’t advertise it because I’m not looking for it in a relationship x | |||
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"Sex workers literally lie to people for a living and a leopard doesn’t change its spots! Lucky escape OP! Just a quick question, what do you think I would lie about? There is a massive misconception about Ds and the work they do, for a good D there needs to be a level of trust and understanding that transcends something is basic as sex work. Hopefully we can run into you both at a kink event, we go to Embargo, others planned for '24." Perhaps. But it still is classified as sex work. I am a sex worker as I offer a sexual based service in exchange for a wage that I then pay tax on. If we're going to talk about sex work, we should absolutely be open to all aspects of said work and the services provided under the umbrella term. No sex worker is superior to another because of what they do or don't do | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made What exactly would the informed decision be? Does someone need to share their entire work history on the off chance that you are unwilling to sleep with ex-traffice wardens? If I give full disclosure including swinging it will be nice if some one said I am seeing clients and will see you the 2 hours I am free and not treat me like an idiot .I have no problem with their work but don’t like to be treated like a fool. Ah, you mean they currently are a sex worker? My mistake - I read your questions as implying they *were* (in the past) a sex worker, but not any more. Either way, how do you know they are planning to charge you? Sex workers go on 'normal' dates as well. I would say sex workers eiukd not go on s normal date. They see evey date as a possible trick. They would always be manipulating you one way or another. Or if you dated them they wouldn't have sex with you but expect to have everything paid fir them. They are in a very cynical business and it takes a certain mindset. I think that's a pretty harsh and generic statement. Sex workers are people too. I think as long as you have a open and honest relationship just like any other it can work. " I dated a sex worker for a time trust me when I say I am deakin from experience. | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made What exactly would the informed decision be? Does someone need to share their entire work history on the off chance that you are unwilling to sleep with ex-traffice wardens? If I give full disclosure including swinging it will be nice if some one said I am seeing clients and will see you the 2 hours I am free and not treat me like an idiot .I have no problem with their work but don’t like to be treated like a fool. Ah, you mean they currently are a sex worker? My mistake - I read your questions as implying they *were* (in the past) a sex worker, but not any more. Either way, how do you know they are planning to charge you? Sex workers go on 'normal' dates as well. I would say sex workers eiukd not go on s normal date. They see evey date as a possible trick. They would always be manipulating you one way or another. Or if you dated them they wouldn't have sex with you but expect to have everything paid fir them. They are in a very cynical business and it takes a certain mindset. I think that's a pretty harsh and generic statement. Sex workers are people too. I think as long as you have a open and honest relationship just like any other it can work. I dated a sex worker for a time trust me when I say I am deakin from experience. " Dating a sex worker for a period of time doesn't really mean you've experience in all aspects of dating a sex worker though... most of my sex work friends are happily married with a family. Myself included. How does that happen if we don't go on normal dates, don't have sex if it's not part of the job etc? Just curious... | |||
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"Respect the fact that they were honest about it and don't judge them as it would've taken a lot to even mention it not knowing what reaction to expect..." Exactly this Listen to her and get to know her | |||
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"I think that's a pretty harsh and generic statement. Sex workers are people too. I think as long as you have a open and honest relationship just like any other it can work. I dated a sex worker for a time trust me when I say I am deakin from experience. " Just one experience though. | |||
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"Get an STD test." EVERYONE should be testing regularly & the majority of people working in the adult industry test, take PrEP & even use condoms for oral! Safer than the average "I'm not dirty, won't contract anything" swingers on their 7th hook up that week who never go to the clinic, who think they're safe/clean | |||
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"This is a swinging site it says fab swinger not fab dating you none swinger are killing this site " Some swingers date people as well. | |||
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"This is a swinging site it says fab swinger not fab dating you none swinger are killing this site " Curious, how are people who are unlikely to meet you if they are interested in dating killing the site? Surely being diverse brings in new people to the site? | |||
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"This is a swinging site it says fab swinger not fab dating you none swinger are killing this site Politely disagree. I’d rather use fab to find someone with the same interests as myself. For clubs especially." Agree , plus I’m sure lots of couples on fab had started out as single fabbers to | |||
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"This is a swinging site it says fab swinger not fab dating you none swinger are killing this site Politely disagree. I’d rather use fab to find someone with the same interests as myself. For clubs especially." The kind of couple, who will only meet people if you adhere to the many requirements they unnecessarily have, any singles on here not attending clubs are the Antichrist in their eyes. Haha, keep an eye out for them on your standard dating apps, | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made So long as she isn’t expecting you to p@y for sex, what does it matter? Exactly He is complaining because he had to spend £80 on drinks and he guessed this because she puts makeup on before meeting someone at a bar. Not to mention on a different thread Op complained about woman’s vagina too loose after a meet. There is no excuse for Judgemental, appalling and narcissistic behaviour like this " Again my face is here for every one to see not hiding like a coward like you .I have enough balls to show my face when I Give a opinion | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made So long as she isn’t expecting you to p@y for sex, what does it matter? Exactly He is complaining because he had to spend £80 on drinks and he guessed this because she puts makeup on before meeting someone at a bar. Not to mention on a different thread Op complained about woman’s vagina too loose after a meet. There is no excuse for Judgemental, appalling and narcissistic behaviour like this Again my face is here for every one to see not hiding like a coward like you .I have enough balls to show my face when I Give a opinion " Only coward here is you. You met someone, didn’t like but never said anything to their face and now slagging them here behind their back. You never answered? you only guessed she is a sex worker because you had to spend £80 on drinks and she put make up on before meeting someone at bar. Did she ask you for money? Clearly she didn’t from original post. Your opinion got you banned from clubs ( different threads you started) and clearly everyone can see traits of narcissistic behaviour from your posts. Go get a life and live and let live. focus on yourself rather than criticising others. I won’t be wasting my time replying to your post here. Some people are just beyond help | |||
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"This is a swinging site it says fab swinger not fab dating you none swinger are killing this site Some swingers date people as well." Swingers' are people too! Fab is not a swingers site. It's on anonymous matchmaking sex site for anyone to use. It's literally built that way. It's an amateur porn site It's a forum It's a cam sex site It might have started out as being for swingers but that's not who's paying the rent. | |||
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"This is a swinging site it says fab swinger not fab dating you none swinger are killing this site Some swingers date people as well. Swingers' are people too! Fab is not a swingers site. It's on anonymous matchmaking sex site for anyone to use. It's literally built that way. It's an amateur porn site It's a forum It's a cam sex site It might have started out as being for swingers but that's not who's paying the rent. " | |||
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"This is a swinging site it says fab swinger not fab dating you none swinger are killing this site Some swingers date people as well. Swingers' are people too! Fab is not a swingers site. It's on anonymous matchmaking sex site for anyone to use. It's literally built that way. It's an amateur porn site It's a forum It's a cam sex site It might have started out as being for swingers but that's not who's paying the rent. " And that is sadly why so many true swingers are now leaving the site! We were told by another couple that they had 10 couples leave in the last 4 weeks! We have lost 4! | |||
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"I think that's a pretty harsh and generic statement. Sex workers are people too. I think as long as you have a open and honest relationship just like any other it can work. I dated a sex worker for a time trust me when I say I am deakin from experience. Just one experience though." Once was enough. I used tobe as idealistic as those on here who sat my it doesn't matter but trust me it's a soul destroying experience. If yiu want to dare a sex worker be my guest, but proceed with caution. | |||
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"This is a swinging site it says fab swinger not fab dating you none swinger are killing this site Some swingers date people as well. Swingers' are people too! Fab is not a swingers site. It's on anonymous matchmaking sex site for anyone to use. It's literally built that way. It's an amateur porn site It's a forum It's a cam sex site It might have started out as being for swingers but that's not who's paying the rent. " __ So your point is that you are not a "true" swinger if: * You look anonymously for a match for sex with people with similar sexual interests * You engage others socially about sex and swinging in a forum to get advice, joke, participate in conversations and even argue about things *You have a taste for exhibitionist and voyeuristic behaviour, so you post amateur porn or watch it *You engage in sexual practices broadcasting it on a web cam (see exhibitionist/voyeur above). *You have a Fab account but choose not to meet anyone for sex, or you don't because you can't get a meet. Are you saying that swingers do not engage in that? Having claimed boldly that "Fab is not a swingers site"...You have me wondering now... who is a swinger and are Mr/Mrs Arpeggio swingers? what should have or not have a swingers site to qualify? Why any of those features, e.g. the webcams, the forum, etc impede the "true" swingers to use Fab for their purposes? | |||
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"I don't think I ever defined a swinger at all. Let alone a 'true' swinger. No my point was that fabswingers is used in many ways by people from all walks of life including but certainly not limited to swingers." __ I get it. You meant that Fab is not ONLY a swingers site. | |||
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"This is a swinging site it says fab swinger not fab dating you none swinger are killing this site Some swingers date people as well. Swingers' are people too! Fab is not a swingers site. It's on anonymous matchmaking sex site for anyone to use. It's literally built that way. It's an amateur porn site It's a forum It's a cam sex site It might have started out as being for swingers but that's not who's paying the rent. And that is sadly why so many true swingers are now leaving the site! We were told by another couple that they had 10 couples leave in the last 4 weeks! We have lost 4!" We’ve lost four, damn our life’s will never be the same | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made " Hang on by definition we are all on a sex site, i get checked regular and when few yr ago had meets most days when I went for regular sti test they put me down as sex worker, no money ever exchanged nor asked for I just love rumpy pumpy. Did you tell the date you on here? Nobodys business nor should it be if she is sex worker and if for money might be needed for financial reasons. Folk on here I think majority would think nowt to do with anyone else. | |||
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"Op, forgive me, but that sounds as if you were rather naive. " This | |||
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"Not judging but should that not be openly said so a informed decision can be made the obvious question to be asked, is how do you know about it if she hasnt said anything to you." Exactly | |||
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"Sex workers are people too, so it’s not unreasonable that they want to date. Their career doesn’t preclude them from that. If you don’t want to date sex workers it’s probably best that you ask what people do for a living before you arrange a date. That way no one is disappointed. " Couldn’t agree more. | |||
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"This thread is going all over the place. OP... Have you met this woman in person and have you had sex with her? If so, has she charged you money? I did and off course I I will not pay and leave the date.i have not had sex yet but suspect if do money will get involved one way or another and after posting this I just deleted the number lol end of issue .but do feel people should be upfront " Op is delusional. She never asked him for money according to original post but it’s not end of issue for him otherwise he won’t be slagging her in forums. | |||
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"Sex work is work, sex work is not illegal if you’re against it then that’s your problem. They do not have to disclose anything on a first date that they don’t want to. " | |||
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"It sounds like a miscommunication, you believe you are on a date, she thinks you are a client. Lol it’s turned out that way luckily I got away with buying couple drinks dropping her home and blocking the number.i have no problem with their work I would have even dated regardless but thing I cannot bear lying for no reason but it’s done and dusted I'm confused. So from where did you make contact? Did she actually ask for money? How did she lie? Did you ask her if she was a sex worker and she said no? Did she tell you beforehand she did something else? We are missing some information here All done and dusted but not sure how we can comment on your thread without the key information " Good point | |||
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