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"As you refer to “the wankong dead” - this is the sort of thing that concerns me. " There's another forum post about this, saying how unfair the term is. That would be worthwhile reading. "Whereas I admit I’m not sure what I would be comfortable or not comfortable with on my first club visit, I feel I woukd atelast want to dip my feet in the water, and watching could be the compromise to this. Is it really the case that all in the play rooms will want to be watched? " Usually, if you can see them, you can watch them. "Will they expect or even want people to join them? " If you're watching, and want to join in, ask if you can. The worst they can do is say 'No'... "Os it expected that all go towards the play rooms towards the end of the evening?" No. There are no expectations like this. "Are you pulled in to play" Absolutely not! "or can one be left to their own devices. " Most certainly "As fun as it does sound just to watch to begin with, I certainly dont want to be accused of being wierd, say if I got excited for instance! " If people want to be watched, they'll likely enjoy you watching in an excited state. | |||
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"I certainly dont want to be accused of being wierd, say if I got excited for instance! " It would be weird if you were watching a couple having sex and didn't get excited! Personally we like to be watched and we want you to get excited, it excites us. There is a fine line between the "wanking dead" and respectfully watching those putting on show. Ask, "Is is OK if I watch you?" Most clubs have private rooms for those that don't want to be watched. Any room with the door shut is out of bounds. | |||
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"I’ve got plenty of experience in the club scene but not the swing club lol we had plenty fun mmf ffm many times but we never done the club be honest I’m glad I never took my missus to be honest after hearing how all the guys like flys round shit lol and I bet that then puts the lady of then " 8 years of clubbing and this doesn’t at happen at decent events with decent hosts. Any good host has a balanced guest list and doesn’t allow this. Research before attending and you’ll be fine | |||
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"Thank you all for your replies, this is all very helpful. Ofcourse I understand that there are boundaries in place, and it is a given that these should always be respected. How oten do people find that members are cliquey, or dont feel that ready to welcome single males? Do you experiences suggest differently? Also, is it acceptable for those watching others in play rooms to pleasure themselves as some form of relief, say that they couldn’t themselves get involved in the fun? Sorry - asking as a complete newbie to this! " Sooooo…… I’ve visited 8 clubs as a single guy, with varying degrees of ‘success’, and my best piece of advice to you, or any guy thinking of visiting a swinger club is; go with a female friend Every club has its cliques, although they prefer to call them ‘established groups of friends’, and to break in to these, you need to visit several times to become accepted. There have already been several references above to the ‘wanking dead’, and although there will be trains of guys wandering around who fall in to this branding, unfortunately all single males in clubs are tarred with the same brush, which makes it difficult (but not impossible) to get yourself known. Plenty of guys will be wanking as they watch, some people like that, others don’t, as ever in a club, just ask first All clubs have review sections in here. Look for reviews left by other single guys, to give you an idea of which events single guys are actually welcome at. The first rule of swinger clubs is; clubs are for couples, so like I said initially, go with a friend. Hope this helps | |||
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"So basically, singles masturbating on the group play areas is acceptable? Is this somethig that others want and enjoy?" It's certainly something that happens, and some enjoy knowing the effect they're having on their audience. As long as you're not being a creep (don't go sticking your dick in someone's face), it's easy enough to ignore. I rarely even notice that people are watching. And for those who are bothered by it, there will be private or semi-private places to play. "The age range is also something on my mind ... How do clubs cater for these age groups? Do they mix or do they play seperate? " Mostly they don't. There will be the occasional event to cater for particular ages (Cubs and Cougars being a popular one), but generally people are left to engage with the people they want to engage with. I have to comment on one of the remarks made above: the suggestion that all single men are "tarred with the same brush" is, honestly, insulting to the women and couples who attend clubs. Single men are not one monolithic lump, and people take each individual as an individual. OK, some people are not interested in single men at all, not even socially, and they might ignore them all without discrimination. But mostly you'll be treated according to how you're perceived, and that is largely down to how you behave. I've seen many times, if a new and decent-seeming man is sitting near the group and looking too shy to join in conversation, someone will make an effort and give them an opening. It's not always taken up, and might not be repeated, so pay attention. | |||
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"This is excellent and varied advice! So basically, singles masturbating on the group play areas is acceptable? Is this somethig that others want and enjoy? " Yes, this is something that gets some people off. I love a quietly appreciative audience. I just don’t like it when they start commentating or worse, try to tell my partner how to fuck me. " Another concern on my part has been that I bump into someone I know there (for bette ror for worse perhaps!) I always gathered that whatever happens in swinging clubs stays in swinging clubs, so why should I worry? Has anyone here bumped into anyone you’ve known or anyone unexpected? The age range is also something on my mind. Personally, although naturally orientated for women or couples closer to my age, I have on many an occassion played with older women or couples with fond memories. How do clubs cater for these age groups? Do they mix or do they play seperate? " If you like the look of someone and they like the look of you, crack on with it. I’m not trying to be all “it’s just sex”… but it kinda is, and it’s ok to swing with people you wouldn’t date. Swinging is a kind of escapism, it’s about accepting people at face value. | |||
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