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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray

So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very much agree! It's not acceptable. Perhaps he could report it to his company so they put a note on the person's file.

Too many people think their own sexual kinks override other people's consent. It's pretty sick.

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***"

If its happening every week and if it makes him feel uncomfortable I'd suggest he explains to his employer why he doesn't want to deliver to those addresses again.

Consent is a real thing and the risks associated with accepting offers like this are significant.

Lots of "ifs" there......

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman
over a year ago

tf1

He needs to flag it every time. It’s disgusting behaviour.

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By *hristopherd999Man
over a year ago

Brentwood

Is it really that common?

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By *aughtywifeandhimCouple
over a year ago

luton

Very often had women flashing on my rounds and loved it , was one of the perks of the job s few where husbands were present , had every thing from seethrough to naked , yes I use to walk away with a boner , but never touched unless invited , my wife admitted to fucking a delivery guy when she was younger , but he had flirted with her on several occassions before hand

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

I don’t think it’s acceptable and would probably report actually.

Some people are so self entitled that they think their “kink” is more important than other peoples wishes. It’s vile.

Genuine swingers and kinksters wouldn’t force their kink on people xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sad thing is,if he reports it, the chance of it not being taken seriously is high purely because it's a man reporting it. It's a pathetic, skanky thing to do to anyone.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol

It’s completely wrong, you should never involve unconsenting people in your kinks, simple as that.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"I don’t think it’s acceptable and would probably report actually.

Some people are so self entitled that they think their “kink” is more important than other peoples wishes. It’s vile.

Genuine swingers and kinksters wouldn’t force their kink on people xx "

What Layla said!

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By *rimson_RoseWoman
over a year ago

Tamworth

Totally report it. Kinks should be done consensually WITH others not unexpectedly TO them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think it’s acceptable and would probably report actually.

Some people are so self entitled that they think their “kink” is more important than other peoples wishes. It’s vile.

Genuine swingers and kinksters wouldn’t force their kink on people xx "

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

There’s been a few threads created on this forum of people admitting they’ve done this. However from memory the majority of comments were rightfully highly critical of them doing it.

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By *ellinever70Woman
over a year ago

Ayrshire


"Is it really that common?"

I wouldn't have thought so

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By *urora1912Woman
over a year ago

Norfolk East anglia

He should report it to his manager and they can log it with head office

If its the same customer often they can block the account

Speaking as an ex home delivery manager

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By *exySenseiCouple
over a year ago


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***"

It’s a form is sexual harassment and isn’t acceptable for anyone to do so, men or women.

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By *ensible lady 1960Woman
over a year ago

Near Bishop Auckland.

when i have stuff delivered i would never flash (unless its a smile) i just take the parcil.and say thank you.and shut the door.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***"

He should ask for a body cam just incase, like you said it only take one person to make a false complaint for him to get in trouble over it

No idea why people think this is OK, especially when the other person knows there address, these women could just as easy flash the 'wrong person' and cause themselves some serious trouble

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Very often had women flashing on my rounds and loved it , was one of the perks of the job s few where husbands were present , had every thing from seethrough to naked , yes I use to walk away with a boner , but never touched unless invited , my wife admitted to fucking a delivery guy when she was younger , but he had flirted with her on several occassions before hand "

Oh dear

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By *iner69erMan
over a year ago

inverness

Lucky sod,lol. If I had that type job and was getting flashed,I'd be delighted.(except guys though)

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By *assy LassieWoman
over a year ago

Lanarkshire


"Lucky sod,lol. If I had that type job and was getting flashed,I'd be delighted.(except guys though)"

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"Is it really that common?"

Absoloutly it is, we've also seen people on here doing it..its just do wrong!

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


" Sad thing is,if he reports it, the chance of it not being taken seriously is high purely because it's a man reporting it. It's a pathetic, skanky thing to do to anyone."

I think that's exactly how he feels!

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"Is it really that common?

I wouldn't have thought so"

Trust me, it really is! There are also quite alot on here that do it!

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***

He should ask for a body cam just incase, like you said it only take one person to make a false complaint for him to get in trouble over it

No idea why people think this is OK, especially when the other person knows there address, these women could just as easy flash the 'wrong person' and cause themselves some serious trouble "

Supermarkets are starring to issue staff body cams but delivery drivers is diffrent because your potentially filming the inside of their house..even standing at the door or taking shopping for vulnerable/elderly people, it then becomes not a public place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people dont know the first signs

Probably scenario at a doorstep (prohibitive action)

Worse if more people were flashing (same house) Hired Dwarves From a Special school to join in for sick jokes to take pictures

Who keeps those mind lives with them/ext

Pretty sick & unforgettable if you had , but never repayable for they're concerned - pre,,drug dealing/ punch-ups next.quo,but

Fore Reasoned why this is mentioned

Page 3 got it

Subjected, lawed

If you'd be caught & mark down monk path. Then hunted by C4 news found rearranging Crufts/National front line in a house

You'd have known you done it yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The body cam is a good idea. Just pretend to have one or say its in the van. Might stop them next time.

Might make them worse.

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"Some people dont know the first signs

Probably scenario at a doorstep (prohibitive action)

Worse if more people were flashing (same house) Hired Dwarves From a Special school to join in for sick jokes to take pictures

Who keeps those mind lives with them/ext

Pretty sick & unforgettable if you had , but never repayable for they're concerned - pre,,drug dealing/ punch-ups next.quo,but

Fore Reasoned why this is mentioned

Page 3 got it

Subjected, lawed

If you'd be caught & mark down monk path. Then hunted by C4 news found rearranging Crufts/National front line in a house

You'd have known you done it yourself "

*\__/*

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

Laughing at the comments about reporting to manager. I don't know what the OP means by shopping delivery but a lot of these services are now outsourced GIG jobs - Deliveroo, Uber Eats, Just Eats, Beelivery, Stuart etc. but also Amazon, Evri, etc and even Royal Mail are employing people delivery by delivery. The employer would be highly unlikely to give a toss (may pay lip service but nothing else). Possible people may get banned from certain services but then can set up a new account. As for body cams you would get reported yourself and fired for doing that. In the worse cases it would have to be the police but can't imagine them caring much either unless really bad. Suspect man flashing women more likely to get their attention but even then easy to brush it off if at somebody's home.

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West


"Laughing at the comments about reporting to manager. I don't know what the OP means by shopping delivery but a lot of these services are now outsourced GIG jobs - Deliveroo, Uber Eats, Just Eats, Beelivery, Stuart etc. but also Amazon, Evri, etc and even Royal Mail are employing people delivery by delivery. The employer would be highly unlikely to give a toss (may pay lip service but nothing else). Possible people may get banned from certain services but then can set up a new account. As for body cams you would get reported yourself and fired for doing that. In the worse cases it would have to be the police but can't imagine them caring much either unless really bad. Suspect man flashing women more likely to get their attention but even then easy to brush it off if at somebody's home. "

I meant to report to the police and not their manager (albeit I’d do that too so they knew I’d gone to the police).

I’d like to think the larger companies would be supportive but understand your point about the smaller companies x

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow


"Laughing at the comments about reporting to manager. I don't know what the OP means by shopping delivery but a lot of these services are now outsourced GIG jobs - Deliveroo, Uber Eats, Just Eats, Beelivery, Stuart etc. but also Amazon, Evri, etc and even Royal Mail are employing people delivery by delivery. The employer would be highly unlikely to give a toss (may pay lip service but nothing else). Possible people may get banned from certain services but then can set up a new account. As for body cams you would get reported yourself and fired for doing that. In the worse cases it would have to be the police but can't imagine them caring much either unless really bad. Suspect man flashing women more likely to get their attention but even then easy to brush it off if at somebody's home.

I meant to report to the police and not their manager (albeit I’d do that too so they knew I’d gone to the police).

I’d like to think the larger companies would be supportive but understand your point about the smaller companies x"

I didn't mean you specifically. I was referring to various comments. I wonder what the police would do if you reported saying you are delivery man and a lady answered the door naked to you. I suspect nothing. Actually I think the smaller companies might be responsive than the larger ones. Do you think large companies like Deliveroo or Amazon would do anything? You don't even have a "manager" in those types of organisations.

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By *h-go-on-thenMan
over a year ago

Canterbury & Folkestone

It happens more than you would think.

I have had several delivery jobs, from pizzas to being a postman, and work for a well known parcel deliveries company now. It happens at least once a week.

I never react other than respond with a smile but if anyone sees my profile and wants to arrange a role play, that's different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don’t even answe the door without my bra on thank god for ring door bells

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***"

Many people, even here on Fab, don't seem to understand that involving unsuspecting members of the public in their exhibitionist/voyeuristic fantasies is the antithesis of swinging. Swinging relies on consent, and in the cases you cite no consent has been given. This makes it indecent exposure and can result in arrest (even if it is in their own home).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Totally report it. Kinks should be done consensually WITH others not unexpectedly TO them. "

Absolutely this! Someone else posted about doing this kind of flashing the other day on another thread and I called them out. It’s not on. Swinging, kinks and sex generally is all about CONSENT of all parties

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By *eeling0880Man
over a year ago

Pennines


" Sad thing is,if he reports it, the chance of it not being taken seriously is high purely because it's a man reporting it. It's a pathetic, skanky thing to do to anyone."

Unfortunately he’d probably get laughed out the building

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"Some people dont know the first signs

Probably scenario at a doorstep (prohibitive action)

Worse if more people were flashing (same house) Hired Dwarves From a Special school to join in for sick jokes to take pictures

Who keeps those mind lives with them/ext

Pretty sick & unforgettable if you had , but never repayable for they're concerned - pre,,drug dealing/ punch-ups next.quo,but

Fore Reasoned why this is mentioned

Page 3 got it

Subjected, lawed

If you'd be caught & mark down monk path. Then hunted by C4 news found rearranging Crufts/National front line in a house

You'd have known you done it yourself

*\__/*"

My thoughts exactly

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"Laughing at the comments about reporting to manager. I don't know what the OP means by shopping delivery but a lot of these services are now outsourced GIG jobs - Deliveroo, Uber Eats, Just Eats, Beelivery, Stuart etc. but also Amazon, Evri, etc and even Royal Mail are employing people delivery by delivery. The employer would be highly unlikely to give a toss (may pay lip service but nothing else). Possible people may get banned from certain services but then can set up a new account. As for body cams you would get reported yourself and fired for doing that. In the worse cases it would have to be the police but can't imagine them caring much either unless really bad. Suspect man flashing women more likely to get their attention but even then easy to brush it off if at somebody's home. "

He's a hope shopping delivery driver for a huge supermarket!

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"It happens more than you would think.

I have had several delivery jobs, from pizzas to being a postman, and work for a well known parcel deliveries company now. It happens at least once a week.

I never react other than respond with a smile but if anyone sees my profile and wants to arrange a role play, that's different."

Nope, he would not stand on door step in his uniform and arrange a sex/swingers meet at the door of a customers, he hasn't a clue who that person his and what they can do when the door is closed..if someone saw us on here and was a customer but tried to arrange a meet on here I'm not even sure we would take them up on the offer because he may well end up going back to that customer..its just not a line than should be crossed in a working environment!

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***

Many people, even here on Fab, don't seem to understand that involving unsuspecting members of the public in their exhibitionist/voyeuristic fantasies is the antithesis of swinging. Swinging relies on consent, and in the cases you cite no consent has been given. This makes it indecent exposure and can result in arrest (even if it is in their own home)."

Totally agree with what youv said buy sadly there are only usually him and that person, very difficult to prove!

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


" Sad thing is,if he reports it, the chance of it not being taken seriously is high purely because it's a man reporting it. It's a pathetic, skanky thing to do to anyone.

Unfortunately he’d probably get laughed out the building "

And that's a massive probability as all his managers are female..they just won't see the seriousness in this at all, not disrespecting women by any means but I know hos managers and they just wouldn't take it seriously, any sexualy assult should always been taken seriously

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow


"Laughing at the comments about reporting to manager. I don't know what the OP means by shopping delivery but a lot of these services are now outsourced GIG jobs - Deliveroo, Uber Eats, Just Eats, Beelivery, Stuart etc. but also Amazon, Evri, etc and even Royal Mail are employing people delivery by delivery. The employer would be highly unlikely to give a toss (may pay lip service but nothing else). Possible people may get banned from certain services but then can set up a new account. As for body cams you would get reported yourself and fired for doing that. In the worse cases it would have to be the police but can't imagine them caring much either unless really bad. Suspect man flashing women more likely to get their attention but even then easy to brush it off if at somebody's home.

He's a hope shopping delivery driver for a huge supermarket!"

Ok not sure if the ! is shouting or offence

Well obviously report it but I was making a general point about delivery sector, including food/shopping, which is now dominated by GIG type jobs where it would be pretty pointless doing anything.

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By * Town CoupleCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Had an accidental one where the lady was clearly trying on a new dress when I arrived which was very revealing at the front. She couldn’t have fastened it up properly because as she bent to pick up the shopping she had a fallout of Chernobyl proportions

Very big and very nice enhanced boobs lol

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By *aughtystaffs60Couple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

OK here's a dilemma. I agree with your sentiment that it's not acceptable. However is there an exception ? What if you are a Cross dresser and the door bell rings. Do you go to the door to collect your parcel or do you leave it or tell him to leave it on the doorstep. Often you can't do that as nowadays the item has to be signed for.

It's a 21st century problem isn't it ?

I guess the answer is put a dressing gown on and leave it to the delivery driver's imagination LOL.

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By *sxboy69Man
over a year ago

Rayleigh

I would think being attacked by the householders dog is more of a real world problem than them flashing (accidentally or otherwise) a bit of boob at you while on their own property.

What a sad world it's become where just getting an eyeful is now perceived as sexual harrasment. Have these 'victims' never been to a club or a beach!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have to agree with the OP, its bordering on indecent exposure. If they tried it at their local park, they would get into all kinds of trouble. Rightly so!

But because its on their front door, they believe themselves to be immune.

Getting an "eye full" in a non consensual way, can hardly be classified as an accident.

Its simply out of bounds!

Someone slipping up, is one thing... someone doing it for any other reason needs to be put in their place.

Feel sorry for the op's husband getting put into situations, in which it could go so horrible wrong.

M and M

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think it’s acceptable and would probably report actually.

Some people are so self entitled that they think their “kink” is more important than other peoples wishes. It’s vile.

Genuine swingers and kinksters wouldn’t force their kink on people xx "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Sad thing is,if he reports it, the chance of it not being taken seriously is high purely because it's a man reporting it. It's a pathetic, skanky thing to do to anyone."

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By *arren the doggerMan
over a year ago

willenhall

What's the address ??

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By *rpeggioCouple
over a year ago

Baughurst


"Is it really that common?"

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Does it matter? It's always wrong, whether it's common or infrequent.

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By *rpeggioCouple
over a year ago

Baughurst


"Laughing at the comments about reporting to manager. I don't know what the OP means by shopping delivery but a lot of these services are now outsourced GIG jobs - Deliveroo, Uber Eats, Just Eats, Beelivery, Stuart etc. but also Amazon, Evri, etc and even Royal Mail are employing people delivery by delivery. The employer would be highly unlikely to give a toss (may pay lip service but nothing else). Possible people may get banned from certain services but then can set up a new account. As for body cams you would get reported yourself and fired for doing that. In the worse cases it would have to be the police but can't imagine them caring much either unless really bad. Suspect man flashing women more likely to get their attention but even then easy to brush it off if at somebody's home.

I meant to report to the police and not their manager (albeit I’d do that too so they knew I’d gone to the police).

I’d like to think the larger companies would be supportive but understand your point about the smaller companies x

I didn't mean you specifically. I was referring to various comments. I wonder what the police would do if you reported saying you are delivery man and a lady answered the door naked to you. I suspect nothing. Actually I think the smaller companies might be responsive than the larger ones. Do you think large companies like Deliveroo or Amazon would do anything? You don't even have a "manager" in those types of organisations. "

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So you think big companies will do nothing if you report that you have been sexually abused repeatedly? Big companies have policies to respond to harassment and abuse. If OP reports verbally and without witnesses to the manager I agree that nothing will happen, but if reporting is in written form, through the right channel, and the OP is persistent and knows how to play the game, a failure to respond escalates very quickly and you will have the HR department involved as soon as they hear about a sex abuse complaint.

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By *rpeggioCouple
over a year ago

Baughurst


"I would think being attacked by the householders dog is more of a real world problem than them flashing (accidentally or otherwise) a bit of boob at you while on their own property.

What a sad world it's become where just getting an eyeful is now perceived as sexual harrasment. Have these 'victims' never been to a club or a beach!? "

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How would you feel if someone gives your child an eyeful? How about a guy getting his cock out and sitting next to your wife at a bus stop at night with no one else around? Would you feel ok with that?

What a sad world it's become when people cannot understand the difference between exposing yourself in an adult/swingers club or a nudist area of a beach to abusing workers by forcing them to see you naked when you are just doing your job and being worried about keeping it.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow


"Laughing at the comments about reporting to manager. I don't know what the OP means by shopping delivery but a lot of these services are now outsourced GIG jobs - Deliveroo, Uber Eats, Just Eats, Beelivery, Stuart etc. but also Amazon, Evri, etc and even Royal Mail are employing people delivery by delivery. The employer would be highly unlikely to give a toss (may pay lip service but nothing else). Possible people may get banned from certain services but then can set up a new account. As for body cams you would get reported yourself and fired for doing that. In the worse cases it would have to be the police but can't imagine them caring much either unless really bad. Suspect man flashing women more likely to get their attention but even then easy to brush it off if at somebody's home.

I meant to report to the police and not their manager (albeit I’d do that too so they knew I’d gone to the police).

I’d like to think the larger companies would be supportive but understand your point about the smaller companies x

I didn't mean you specifically. I was referring to various comments. I wonder what the police would do if you reported saying you are delivery man and a lady answered the door naked to you. I suspect nothing. Actually I think the smaller companies might be responsive than the larger ones. Do you think large companies like Deliveroo or Amazon would do anything? You don't even have a "manager" in those types of organisations.

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So you think big companies will do nothing if you report that you have been sexually abused repeatedly? Big companies have policies to respond to harassment and abuse. If OP reports verbally and without witnesses to the manager I agree that nothing will happen, but if reporting is in written form, through the right channel, and the OP is persistent and knows how to play the game, a failure to respond escalates very quickly and you will have the HR department involved as soon as they hear about a sex abuse complaint. "

Well yes I think in most cases it wouldn’t go far. I assuming the case of somebody opening the door with say boobs hanging out or naked once. If somebody did repeatedly or starting touching the driver different but answering the door semi naked or naked nope. And again in lots of cases with the big companies you are a self-employed GIG worker (eg Amazon and Delliveroo and often for big supermarkets or fast food chains too) without a manager and they wouldn’t care unless something very serious.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

Or let’s say it does escalate what are they going to do? Ban the customer perhaps. Is answering the door with boobs hanging out itself a crime? Would police take it further and DPP prosecute somebody?

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"Or let’s say it does escalate what are they going to do? Ban the customer perhaps. Is answering the door with boobs hanging out itself a crime? Would police take it further and DPP prosecute somebody? "

Yes, it actually is a crime if the intention is to shock or upset

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's not consensual and thus not right. It may occasionally happen by accident but I'm guessing that his rate of experience, it's well above that potential rate of occurrence.

I'd generally offer my lack of interest and feedback on others' behaviour. He could get employment adjustments, to better manage the situation. I'm surprised it's such a high rate though

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By *ig Harry ManMan
over a year ago

ilford

I had a couple of incidents of this when I was found a job that involved home visits. I told them that I would wait come back another day and also reported every incident to my boss in writing. You never know when things like this can come back to bite you.

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By *egasus NobMan
over a year ago

Merton

Are they flashing or picking up their delivery naked? two different things. People should keep their kink to themselves and those in it.

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By *rpeggioCouple
over a year ago

Baughurst


"Or let’s say it does escalate what are they going to do? Ban the customer perhaps. Is answering the door with boobs hanging out itself a crime? Would police take it further and DPP prosecute somebody? "

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They could ban the customer, but unlikely unless they receive reports from different drivers about the same address. They can assign OP other addresses instead.

OP says "has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable". So it's not an isolated case and it may be genitals with women and for sure with males, which is unlawful if done on purpose, no matter if you are inside your house.

The key here is whether it is accidental or not, but if the customer asks "what's wrong" rather than apologising, suggests it's not an accident and so it's unlawful. Being this the advice section, if I was the OP I would keep a record of addresses and dates and times of deliveries, who and what was flashed. They may take it more seriously if the list is detailed and he says that he is being made very uncomfortable. Then OP can decide if reporting or not, it's his choice, but if he decides to report, at least he will have a record.

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By *sxboy69Man
over a year ago

Rayleigh


"I would think being attacked by the householders dog is more of a real world problem than them flashing (accidentally or otherwise) a bit of boob at you while on their own property.

What a sad world it's become where just getting an eyeful is now perceived as sexual harrasment. Have these 'victims' never been to a club or a beach!?

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How would you feel if someone gives your child an eyeful? How about a guy getting his cock out and sitting next to your wife at a bus stop at night with no one else around? Would you feel ok with that?

What a sad world it's become when people cannot understand the difference between exposing yourself in an adult/swingers club or a nudist area of a beach to abusing workers by forcing them to see you naked when you are just doing your job and being worried about keeping it."

I'm pretty sure my child wouldn't be delivering to someones home.

Context is key and we're only talking about a female exposing themselves to a male here. As we're told that females are a vunerable group, her actions would indicate that she's feeling pretty confident and secure and may well have previous rapport with the caller. It's then up to him to escalate the fun or just drop her delivery and pity her forever.

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"I would think being attacked by the householders dog is more of a real world problem than them flashing (accidentally or otherwise) a bit of boob at you while on their own property.

What a sad world it's become where just getting an eyeful is now perceived as sexual harrasment. Have these 'victims' never been to a club or a beach!?

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How would you feel if someone gives your child an eyeful? How about a guy getting his cock out and sitting next to your wife at a bus stop at night with no one else around? Would you feel ok with that?

What a sad world it's become when people cannot understand the difference between exposing yourself in an adult/swingers club or a nudist area of a beach to abusing workers by forcing them to see you naked when you are just doing your job and being worried about keeping it.

I'm pretty sure my child wouldn't be delivering to someones home.

Context is key and we're only talking about a female exposing themselves to a male here. As we're told that females are a vunerable group, her actions would indicate that she's feeling pretty confident and secure and may well have previous rapport with the caller. It's then up to him to escalate the fun or just drop her delivery and pity her forever."

"Only talking about a female exposing herself"? I guess that says it all.

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By *rpeggioCouple
over a year ago

Baughurst


"I would think being attacked by the householders dog is more of a real world problem than them flashing (accidentally or otherwise) a bit of boob at you while on their own property.

What a sad world it's become where just getting an eyeful is now perceived as sexual harrasment. Have these 'victims' never been to a club or a beach!?

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How would you feel if someone gives your child an eyeful? How about a guy getting his cock out and sitting next to your wife at a bus stop at night with no one else around? Would you feel ok with that?

What a sad world it's become when people cannot understand the difference between exposing yourself in an adult/swingers club or a nudist area of a beach to abusing workers by forcing them to see you naked when you are just doing your job and being worried about keeping it.

I'm pretty sure my child wouldn't be delivering to someones home.

Context is key and we're only talking about a female exposing themselves to a male here. As we're told that females are a vunerable group, her actions would indicate that she's feeling pretty confident and secure and may well have previous rapport with the caller. It's then up to him to escalate the fun or just drop her delivery and pity her forever."

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OP's post says several women, not just one, as well as some males (selective reading?), and that he is not liking it in any case. That does not sound to me as if he is creating rapport of any kind with those customers nor inclined to escalate anything that he has not asked for. This is the advice and support forum, and the OP is asking for advice. If he was happy with the situation his partner would not be posting this.

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"OK here's a dilemma. I agree with your sentiment that it's not acceptable. However is there an exception ? What if you are a Cross dresser and the door bell rings. Do you go to the door to collect your parcel or do you leave it or tell him to leave it on the doorstep. Often you can't do that as nowadays the item has to be signed for.

It's a 21st century problem isn't it ?

I guess the answer is put a dressing gown on and leave it to the delivery driver's imagination LOL.

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He's a supermarket delivery driver, you pick your times and day that you have it delivered, also a text msg goes to the customer to say the driver is on his way, so tb lh you would prepare for that, 21st century or not its still all about concent

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"Laughing at the comments about reporting to manager. I don't know what the OP means by shopping delivery but a lot of these services are now outsourced GIG jobs - Deliveroo, Uber Eats, Just Eats, Beelivery, Stuart etc. but also Amazon, Evri, etc and even Royal Mail are employing people delivery by delivery. The employer would be highly unlikely to give a toss (may pay lip service but nothing else). Possible people may get banned from certain services but then can set up a new account. As for body cams you would get reported yourself and fired for doing that. In the worse cases it would have to be the police but can't imagine them caring much either unless really bad. Suspect man flashing women more likely to get their attention but even then easy to brush it off if at somebody's home.

I meant to report to the police and not their manager (albeit I’d do that too so they knew I’d gone to the police).

I’d like to think the larger companies would be supportive but understand your point about the smaller companies x

I didn't mean you specifically. I was referring to various comments. I wonder what the police would do if you reported saying you are delivery man and a lady answered the door naked to you. I suspect nothing. Actually I think the smaller companies might be responsive than the larger ones. Do you think large companies like Deliveroo or Amazon would do anything? You don't even have a "manager" in those types of organisations.

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So you think big companies will do nothing if you report that you have been sexually abused repeatedly? Big companies have policies to respond to harassment and abuse. If OP reports verbally and without witnesses to the manager I agree that nothing will happen, but if reporting is in written form, through the right channel, and the OP is persistent and knows how to play the game, a failure to respond escalates very quickly and you will have the HR department involved as soon as they hear about a sex abuse complaint. "

I'm really shocked at your lack of understanding this! At no point did my post say that it was an accidental flash, maybe some of them were, but most of them were not, men having dressing gowns open completely naked in full veiw of the driver is acceptable is it? Because its in his own house...unfortunately people like you belittle consent, it's sexual harassment, or a woman with a very short skirt turning round, bend over and everything is on show...no..these are not mistakes!

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"I would think being attacked by the householders dog is more of a real world problem than them flashing (accidentally or otherwise) a bit of boob at you while on their own property.

What a sad world it's become where just getting an eyeful is now perceived as sexual harrasment. Have these 'victims' never been to a club or a beach!?

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How would you feel if someone gives your child an eyeful? How about a guy getting his cock out and sitting next to your wife at a bus stop at night with no one else around? Would you feel ok with that?

What a sad world it's become when people cannot understand the difference between exposing yourself in an adult/swingers club or a nudist area of a beach to abusing workers by forcing them to see you naked when you are just doing your job and being worried about keeping it.

I'm pretty sure my child wouldn't be delivering to someones home.

Context is key and we're only talking about a female exposing themselves to a male here. As we're told that females are a vunerable group, her actions would indicate that she's feeling pretty confident and secure and may well have previous rapport with the caller. It's then up to him to escalate the fun or just drop her delivery and pity her forever.

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OP's post says several women, not just one, as well as some males (selective reading?), and that he is not liking it in any case. That does not sound to me as if he is creating rapport of any kind with those customers nor inclined to escalate anything that he has not asked for. This is the advice and support forum, and the OP is asking for advice. If he was happy with the situation his partner would not be posting this."

Do you really think he would come home and tell me about these situations if he had built a rappor previously or intended on persuing the fun?? he does not and would never cheat on me like that... And do you really think he would complain about it he didn't feel uncomfortable about being in said situation, and the person asking about someone flashing your child, it's the same context, they did not say your child would be delivering, I mean surely you can see the bigger picture here and if you don't then you don't understand what the word concent mean which could get you into serious trouble!

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"I would think being attacked by the householders dog is more of a real world problem than them flashing (accidentally or otherwise) a bit of boob at you while on their own property.

What a sad world it's become where just getting an eyeful is now perceived as sexual harrasment. Have these 'victims' never been to a club or a beach!?

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How would you feel if someone gives your child an eyeful? How about a guy getting his cock out and sitting next to your wife at a bus stop at night with no one else around? Would you feel ok with that?

What a sad world it's become when people cannot understand the difference between exposing yourself in an adult/swingers club or a nudist area of a beach to abusing workers by forcing them to see you naked when you are just doing your job and being worried about keeping it.

I'm pretty sure my child wouldn't be delivering to someones home.

Context is key and we're only talking about a female exposing themselves to a male here. As we're told that females are a vunerable group, her actions would indicate that she's feeling pretty confident and secure and may well have previous rapport with the caller. It's then up to him to escalate the fun or just drop her delivery and pity her forever.

"Only talking about a female exposing herself"? I guess that says it all. "

No, please go back and read the post again.

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By *leasureseekers123Couple
over a year ago

Heathrow

Doesn’t this come under harassment not abuse as some have said in the comments?

The CPS say:

"a balance needs to be struck between the naturist's right to freedom of expression and the right of the wider public to be protected from harassment, alarm and distress".

I would have thought that if the police were called the homeowner is just going to say that it was an accident with no intention to shock or cause distress.

Not condoning it in any way shape or form but it seems like it would be a difficult one to prosecute

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By *rLordMan
over a year ago

Swadlincote

Few years back to make extra cash, used to do weekend deliveries of furniture. This included assembly, which took a while on occasions.

Many a time we would be putting a table together, with the lady of the house strolling round.

Some with a lot on show, a glimpse of breast and or pussy. So uncomfortable, we could build a table in ten and not the 25 minutes allowed. Just to get out of those situations

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By *rpeggioCouple
over a year ago

Baughurst


"Laughing at the comments about reporting to manager. I don't know what the OP means by shopping delivery but a lot of these services are now outsourced GIG jobs - Deliveroo, Uber Eats, Just Eats, Beelivery, Stuart etc. but also Amazon, Evri, etc and even Royal Mail are employing people delivery by delivery. The employer would be highly unlikely to give a toss (may pay lip service but nothing else). Possible people may get banned from certain services but then can set up a new account. As for body cams you would get reported yourself and fired for doing that. In the worse cases it would have to be the police but can't imagine them caring much either unless really bad. Suspect man flashing women more likely to get their attention but even then easy to brush it off if at somebody's home.

I meant to report to the police and not their manager (albeit I’d do that too so they knew I’d gone to the police).

I’d like to think the larger companies would be supportive but understand your point about the smaller companies x

I didn't mean you specifically. I was referring to various comments. I wonder what the police would do if you reported saying you are delivery man and a lady answered the door naked to you. I suspect nothing. Actually I think the smaller companies might be responsive than the larger ones. Do you think large companies like Deliveroo or Amazon would do anything? You don't even have a "manager" in those types of organisations.

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So you think big companies will do nothing if you report that you have been sexually abused repeatedly? Big companies have policies to respond to harassment and abuse. If OP reports verbally and without witnesses to the manager I agree that nothing will happen, but if reporting is in written form, through the right channel, and the OP is persistent and knows how to play the game, a failure to respond escalates very quickly and you will have the HR department involved as soon as they hear about a sex abuse complaint.

I'm really shocked at your lack of understanding this! At no point did my post say that it was an accidental flash, maybe some of them were, but most of them were not, men having dressing gowns open completely naked in full veiw of the driver is acceptable is it? Because its in his own house...unfortunately people like you belittle consent, it's sexual harassment, or a woman with a very short skirt turning round, bend over and everything is on show...no..these are not mistakes! "

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Hi OP, I believe that you were clear and that what is happening to your husband is wrong. This behaviour is repeated and in no way accidental. So not sure why you quoted my response or if any thing in my posts (Arpeggio) made you think otherwise. If I did, please have my apologies but I am 100% with you here, if you read my posts and responses to those that believe that flashing your husband is acceptable, either because if nonsense such as because it is a woman or because they are inside their house.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***"

There have been a few people comment, that regardless of who is flashing, it is indecent exposure.

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By *heekyDemandCouple
over a year ago

Leicester


"Doesn’t this come under harassment not abuse as some have said in the comments?

The CPS say:

"a balance needs to be struck between the naturist's right to freedom of expression and the right of the wider public to be protected from harassment, alarm and distress".

I would have thought that if the police were called the homeowner is just going to say that it was an accident with no intention to shock or cause distress.

Not condoning it in any way shape or form but it seems like it would be a difficult one to prosecute "

I can imagine the scales of justice may swing in favour of the naturist, if they happen to be inside their own home. Not saying if it's right or wrong, but the law may be unable to take action, even if it's deliberate.

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By *.T.Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Doesn’t this come under harassment not abuse as some have said in the comments?

The CPS say:

"a balance needs to be struck between the naturist's right to freedom of expression and the right of the wider public to be protected from harassment, alarm and distress".

I would have thought that if the police were called the homeowner is just going to say that it was an accident with no intention to shock or cause distress.

Not condoning it in any way shape or form but it seems like it would be a difficult one to prosecute

I can imagine the scales of justice may swing in favour of the naturist, if they happen to be inside their own home. Not saying if it's right or wrong, but the law may be unable to take action, even if it's deliberate."

I think the point being made here is not the freedom of expression but the fact that someone exposing themselves could cause harrassment, alarm and distress.

OP

I'd agree that reporting incidents is the way ahead, even just to protect against false and malicious allegations.

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By *imtimMan
over a year ago

Morecambe

It’s no different to when I was a postman many years ago, not so many guys back then, but a lot of towels and robes ??

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By *r and mrs 1992Couple
over a year ago

Oldham

Both of us are home delivery drivers for a supermarket and it happens on a daily basis. It's shocking that some people genuinely dont realise that its not particularly nice going to someone's house and them answering the door in a pair of dirty underpants and nothing else, especially when they know they have a delivery coming.The mrs has even has a women answer the door completely naked. But if they do it to one then they'll do it to all the drivers so if any complaint do get made we have each others backs. And if he does feel uncomfortable then he's best of reporting it to his line manager so they can potentially speak to the customer or block the address. We feel his discomfort though, it is awkward when it happens.

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By *arren the doggerMan
over a year ago

willenhall

Well I've done home deliveries for years and keep praying it happens to me but alas nothing !!

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"Doesn’t this come under harassment not abuse as some have said in the comments?

The CPS say:

"a balance needs to be struck between the naturist's right to freedom of expression and the right of the wider public to be protected from harassment, alarm and distress".

I would have thought that if the police were called the homeowner is just going to say that it was an accident with no intention to shock or cause distress.

Not condoning it in any way shape or form but it seems like it would be a difficult one to prosecute

I can imagine the scales of justice may swing in favour of the naturist, if they happen to be inside their own home. Not saying if it's right or wrong, but the law may be unable to take action, even if it's deliberate."

The law is actually very clear and specifically addresses the issue of deliberate flashing from within your own home.

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By *leasureseekers123Couple
over a year ago

Heathrow


"Both of us are home delivery drivers for a supermarket and it happens on a daily basis. It's shocking that some people genuinely dont realise that its not particularly nice going to someone's house and them answering the door in a pair of dirty underpants and nothing else, especially when they know they have a delivery coming.The mrs has even has a women answer the door completely naked. But if they do it to one then they'll do it to all the drivers so if any complaint do get made we have each others backs. And if he does feel uncomfortable then he's best of reporting it to his line manager so they can potentially speak to the customer or block the address. We feel his discomfort though, it is awkward when it happens."

Wearing underpants- dirty or otherwise is not flashing though. I can’t imagine there’s a law that says what constitutes appropriate clothing to answer the door in. I am genuinely shocked that you are both flashed daily. It’s not at all ok but if you went to the police wouldn’t the homeowner just say “oh god they saw my boobs how embarrassing. Of course it wasn’t intentional.”

Answering the door naked of course doesn’t leave much room for argument

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By *aulaxd2020TV/TS
over a year ago

dudley

Maybe if delivery drivers were issued with body cams like police or security have it would stop the problem quite easily

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By *illingdon_ladMan
over a year ago

Bicester

I was a delivery driver for a few years, I think the most that happened to me was going to a customers house and the daughter was in a skimpy thong but she was running upstairs when we got there.

With some of the answers here, it just reads as some people's fantasies are coming out like some kind of confessions of a delivery driver thing. The reality is if this is an accidental flash the person would be mortified. If a deliberate flash that doesn't mean they want the advances of a stranger. But if deliberate it's not on to flash anyone without consent.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow


"Both of us are home delivery drivers for a supermarket and it happens on a daily basis. It's shocking that some people genuinely dont realise that its not particularly nice going to someone's house and them answering the door in a pair of dirty underpants and nothing else, especially when they know they have a delivery coming.The mrs has even has a women answer the door completely naked. But if they do it to one then they'll do it to all the drivers so if any complaint do get made we have each others backs. And if he does feel uncomfortable then he's best of reporting it to his line manager so they can potentially speak to the customer or block the address. We feel his discomfort though, it is awkward when it happens.

Wearing underpants- dirty or otherwise is not flashing though. I can’t imagine there’s a law that says what constitutes appropriate clothing to answer the door in. I am genuinely shocked that you are both flashed daily. It’s not at all ok but if you went to the police wouldn’t the homeowner just say “oh god they saw my boobs how embarrassing. Of course it wasn’t intentional.”

Answering the door naked of course doesn’t leave much room for argument "

Well it does leave room for argument. Answering the door naked is not illegal. It is only illegal if it was with the intention to upset and shock and that is a tough one to prove. I guess if a man answers with a full on boner that is clearcut but otherwise male or female just being naked per se is not illegal.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow


"Maybe if delivery drivers were issued with body cams like police or security have it would stop the problem quite easily "

I think that would be illegal. Body cams filming is only allowed in public/semi-public places (like a shop). Filming somebody in their doorway from the road might be allowed but not if standing on their property. Obviously regulated exceptions like police and I think bailiffs/debt collectors are now required to wear them to protect the people that are visiting as much them personally.

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"Both of us are home delivery drivers for a supermarket and it happens on a daily basis. It's shocking that some people genuinely dont realise that its not particularly nice going to someone's house and them answering the door in a pair of dirty underpants and nothing else, especially when they know they have a delivery coming.The mrs has even has a women answer the door completely naked. But if they do it to one then they'll do it to all the drivers so if any complaint do get made we have each others backs. And if he does feel uncomfortable then he's best of reporting it to his line manager so they can potentially speak to the customer or block the address. We feel his discomfort though, it is awkward when it happens.

Wearing underpants- dirty or otherwise is not flashing though. I can’t imagine there’s a law that says what constitutes appropriate clothing to answer the door in. I am genuinely shocked that you are both flashed daily. It’s not at all ok but if you went to the police wouldn’t the homeowner just say “oh god they saw my boobs how embarrassing. Of course it wasn’t intentional.”

Answering the door naked of course doesn’t leave much room for argument

Well it does leave room for argument. Answering the door naked is not illegal. It is only illegal if it was with the intention to upset and shock and that is a tough one to prove. I guess if a man answers with a full on boner that is clearcut but otherwise male or female just being naked per se is not illegal. "

It is illegal - it just requires one person to complain. The law is very clear, even though some people don't wish to acknowledge it.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow


"Both of us are home delivery drivers for a supermarket and it happens on a daily basis. It's shocking that some people genuinely dont realise that its not particularly nice going to someone's house and them answering the door in a pair of dirty underpants and nothing else, especially when they know they have a delivery coming.The mrs has even has a women answer the door completely naked. But if they do it to one then they'll do it to all the drivers so if any complaint do get made we have each others backs. And if he does feel uncomfortable then he's best of reporting it to his line manager so they can potentially speak to the customer or block the address. We feel his discomfort though, it is awkward when it happens.

Wearing underpants- dirty or otherwise is not flashing though. I can’t imagine there’s a law that says what constitutes appropriate clothing to answer the door in. I am genuinely shocked that you are both flashed daily. It’s not at all ok but if you went to the police wouldn’t the homeowner just say “oh god they saw my boobs how embarrassing. Of course it wasn’t intentional.”

Answering the door naked of course doesn’t leave much room for argument

Well it does leave room for argument. Answering the door naked is not illegal. It is only illegal if it was with the intention to upset and shock and that is a tough one to prove. I guess if a man answers with a full on boner that is clearcut but otherwise male or female just being naked per se is not illegal.

It is illegal - it just requires one person to complain. The law is very clear, even though some people don't wish to acknowledge it. "

It’s really not as there has to be intent and you have to be able to prove intent. Just complaining about somebody being naked doesn’t show intent and certainly doesn’t prove it. But have it your way.

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"Both of us are home delivery drivers for a supermarket and it happens on a daily basis. It's shocking that some people genuinely dont realise that its not particularly nice going to someone's house and them answering the door in a pair of dirty underpants and nothing else, especially when they know they have a delivery coming.The mrs has even has a women answer the door completely naked. But if they do it to one then they'll do it to all the drivers so if any complaint do get made we have each others backs. And if he does feel uncomfortable then he's best of reporting it to his line manager so they can potentially speak to the customer or block the address. We feel his discomfort though, it is awkward when it happens.

Wearing underpants- dirty or otherwise is not flashing though. I can’t imagine there’s a law that says what constitutes appropriate clothing to answer the door in. I am genuinely shocked that you are both flashed daily. It’s not at all ok but if you went to the police wouldn’t the homeowner just say “oh god they saw my boobs how embarrassing. Of course it wasn’t intentional.”

Answering the door naked of course doesn’t leave much room for argument

Well it does leave room for argument. Answering the door naked is not illegal. It is only illegal if it was with the intention to upset and shock and that is a tough one to prove. I guess if a man answers with a full on boner that is clearcut but otherwise male or female just being naked per se is not illegal.

It is illegal - it just requires one person to complain. The law is very clear, even though some people don't wish to acknowledge it.

It’s really not as there has to be intent and you have to be able to prove intent. Just complaining about somebody being naked doesn’t show intent and certainly doesn’t prove it. But have it your way. "

It's pretty hard to convince a judge that opening the door naked to an unsuspecting delivery man or woman, or to anyone else you don't know, doesn't show intent to shock.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It shouldn't be acceptable. I honestly don't know what goes through people's heads, or if they're capable of considering the needs of anyone other than themselves.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow


"Both of us are home delivery drivers for a supermarket and it happens on a daily basis. It's shocking that some people genuinely dont realise that its not particularly nice going to someone's house and them answering the door in a pair of dirty underpants and nothing else, especially when they know they have a delivery coming.The mrs has even has a women answer the door completely naked. But if they do it to one then they'll do it to all the drivers so if any complaint do get made we have each others backs. And if he does feel uncomfortable then he's best of reporting it to his line manager so they can potentially speak to the customer or block the address. We feel his discomfort though, it is awkward when it happens.

Wearing underpants- dirty or otherwise is not flashing though. I can’t imagine there’s a law that says what constitutes appropriate clothing to answer the door in. I am genuinely shocked that you are both flashed daily. It’s not at all ok but if you went to the police wouldn’t the homeowner just say “oh god they saw my boobs how embarrassing. Of course it wasn’t intentional.”

Answering the door naked of course doesn’t leave much room for argument

Well it does leave room for argument. Answering the door naked is not illegal. It is only illegal if it was with the intention to upset and shock and that is a tough one to prove. I guess if a man answers with a full on boner that is clearcut but otherwise male or female just being naked per se is not illegal.

It is illegal - it just requires one person to complain. The law is very clear, even though some people don't wish to acknowledge it.

It’s really not as there has to be intent and you have to be able to prove intent. Just complaining about somebody being naked doesn’t show intent and certainly doesn’t prove it. But have it your way.

It's pretty hard to convince a judge that opening the door naked to an unsuspecting delivery man or woman, or to anyone else you don't know, doesn't show intent to shock. "

Upset and shock. Plenty of people naked at home and just answered the door as didn’t want to miss delivery. Naked in public is allowed - see naked bike rides for example. They shock some but are allowed. Anyway these cases wouldn’t even make it to a judge. Might be some but must be very rare. Any examples of anyone convicted of opening the door naked? Any examples of judges agreeing with your view?

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By *leasureseekers123Couple
over a year ago

Heathrow


"Both of us are home delivery drivers for a supermarket and it happens on a daily basis. It's shocking that some people genuinely dont realise that its not particularly nice going to someone's house and them answering the door in a pair of dirty underpants and nothing else, especially when they know they have a delivery coming.The mrs has even has a women answer the door completely naked. But if they do it to one then they'll do it to all the drivers so if any complaint do get made we have each others backs. And if he does feel uncomfortable then he's best of reporting it to his line manager so they can potentially speak to the customer or block the address. We feel his discomfort though, it is awkward when it happens.

Wearing underpants- dirty or otherwise is not flashing though. I can’t imagine there’s a law that says what constitutes appropriate clothing to answer the door in. I am genuinely shocked that you are both flashed daily. It’s not at all ok but if you went to the police wouldn’t the homeowner just say “oh god they saw my boobs how embarrassing. Of course it wasn’t intentional.”

Answering the door naked of course doesn’t leave much room for argument

Well it does leave room for argument. Answering the door naked is not illegal. It is only illegal if it was with the intention to upset and shock and that is a tough one to prove. I guess if a man answers with a full on boner that is clearcut but otherwise male or female just being naked per se is not illegal. "

My point was that there’s a big difference between wearing dirty underpants and wearing nothing. You can’t be naked and say you didn’t mean to be naked. Whereas you could wear underwear and say my boobs slipped out. You missed my point entirely

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"Doesn’t this come under harassment not abuse as some have said in the comments?

The CPS say:

"a balance needs to be struck between the naturist's right to freedom of expression and the right of the wider public to be protected from harassment, alarm and distress".

I would have thought that if the police were called the homeowner is just going to say that it was an accident with no intention to shock or cause distress.

Not condoning it in any way shape or form but it seems like it would be a difficult one to prosecute "

Yes it really would be, as I said above there is him amd the other person involved..so who's telling the truth!

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"Both of us are home delivery drivers for a supermarket and it happens on a daily basis. It's shocking that some people genuinely dont realise that its not particularly nice going to someone's house and them answering the door in a pair of dirty underpants and nothing else, especially when they know they have a delivery coming.The mrs has even has a women answer the door completely naked. But if they do it to one then they'll do it to all the drivers so if any complaint do get made we have each others backs. And if he does feel uncomfortable then he's best of reporting it to his line manager so they can potentially speak to the customer or block the address. We feel his discomfort though, it is awkward when it happens.

Wearing underpants- dirty or otherwise is not flashing though. I can’t imagine there’s a law that says what constitutes appropriate clothing to answer the door in. I am genuinely shocked that you are both flashed daily. It’s not at all ok but if you went to the police wouldn’t the homeowner just say “oh god they saw my boobs how embarrassing. Of course it wasn’t intentional.”

Answering the door naked of course doesn’t leave much room for argument "

I'm not sure about you but when I'm expecting a delivery ery that iv to answer the door in and I might just be in a vest top I always put a jumper on to answer the door, with home shopping yoi get a text to say the driver is on his way, why would you not cover up..its just common decency!

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"Both of us are home delivery drivers for a supermarket and it happens on a daily basis. It's shocking that some people genuinely dont realise that its not particularly nice going to someone's house and them answering the door in a pair of dirty underpants and nothing else, especially when they know they have a delivery coming.The mrs has even has a women answer the door completely naked. But if they do it to one then they'll do it to all the drivers so if any complaint do get made we have each others backs. And if he does feel uncomfortable then he's best of reporting it to his line manager so they can potentially speak to the customer or block the address. We feel his discomfort though, it is awkward when it happens.

Wearing underpants- dirty or otherwise is not flashing though. I can’t imagine there’s a law that says what constitutes appropriate clothing to answer the door in. I am genuinely shocked that you are both flashed daily. It’s not at all ok but if you went to the police wouldn’t the homeowner just say “oh god they saw my boobs how embarrassing. Of course it wasn’t intentional.”

Answering the door naked of course doesn’t leave much room for argument

Well it does leave room for argument. Answering the door naked is not illegal. It is only illegal if it was with the intention to upset and shock and that is a tough one to prove. I guess if a man answers with a full on boner that is clearcut but otherwise male or female just being naked per se is not illegal. "

So what purpose would someone have answering the door completely naked? Surely youv seen that on here, if it's not intend to cause upset then I don't know what is...I mean come on, if a man were to open the door completely naked to be met with a female delivery driver then as I said in my post that all he'll would break loose..and you can't argue with that.. so why is ot ok for a woman to do it?

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By *assy LassieWoman
over a year ago

Lanarkshire


"Both of us are home delivery drivers for a supermarket and it happens on a daily basis. It's shocking that some people genuinely dont realise that its not particularly nice going to someone's house and them answering the door in a pair of dirty underpants and nothing else, especially when they know they have a delivery coming.The mrs has even has a women answer the door completely naked. But if they do it to one then they'll do it to all the drivers so if any complaint do get made we have each others backs. And if he does feel uncomfortable then he's best of reporting it to his line manager so they can potentially speak to the customer or block the address. We feel his discomfort though, it is awkward when it happens.

Wearing underpants- dirty or otherwise is not flashing though. I can’t imagine there’s a law that says what constitutes appropriate clothing to answer the door in. I am genuinely shocked that you are both flashed daily. It’s not at all ok but if you went to the police wouldn’t the homeowner just say “oh god they saw my boobs how embarrassing. Of course it wasn’t intentional.”

Answering the door naked of course doesn’t leave much room for argument

Well it does leave room for argument. Answering the door naked is not illegal. It is only illegal if it was with the intention to upset and shock and that is a tough one to prove. I guess if a man answers with a full on boner that is clearcut but otherwise male or female just being naked per se is not illegal.

So what purpose would someone have answering the door completely naked? Surely youv seen that on here, if it's not intend to cause upset then I don't know what is...I mean come on, if a man were to open the door completely naked to be met with a female delivery driver then as I said in my post that all he'll would break loose..and you can't argue with that.. so why is ot ok for a woman to do it?"

Absolutely 100% boils down to this. Clearly and simply. A wee visit from the police might just clarify to the flasher their position on this!

Boils my piss when men are expected to enjoy it because 'well what man wouldn't love a woman to Flash him'.

Women fought a hard battle to have these types of crimes recognised as crimes against them, why should it be any different in role reversal.

Perhaps if all drivers reported these incidents patterns would emerge for some. This would then show there's nothing accidental about it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both of us are home delivery drivers for a supermarket and it happens on a daily basis. It's shocking that some people genuinely dont realise that its not particularly nice going to someone's house and them answering the door in a pair of dirty underpants and nothing else, especially when they know they have a delivery coming.The mrs has even has a women answer the door completely naked. But if they do it to one then they'll do it to all the drivers so if any complaint do get made we have each others backs. And if he does feel uncomfortable then he's best of reporting it to his line manager so they can potentially speak to the customer or block the address. We feel his discomfort though, it is awkward when it happens.

Wearing underpants- dirty or otherwise is not flashing though. I can’t imagine there’s a law that says what constitutes appropriate clothing to answer the door in. I am genuinely shocked that you are both flashed daily. It’s not at all ok but if you went to the police wouldn’t the homeowner just say “oh god they saw my boobs how embarrassing. Of course it wasn’t intentional.”

Answering the door naked of course doesn’t leave much room for argument

I'm not sure about you but when I'm expecting a delivery ery that iv to answer the door in and I might just be in a vest top I always put a jumper on to answer the door, with home shopping yoi get a text to say the driver is on his way, why would you not cover up..its just common decency! "

Very much this! All the whining from some people saying it's not illegal or whatever. Who cares.

It's disgusting and disrespectful, don't do it!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I honestly do not understand this at all.

I do not care what gender you are, informed consent is a thing a very serious thing. I hate the double standard but I hate the absolute disrespect towards the people who are unaware that this is about to happen. I think it is so wrong and I get people may like to be exhibitionist or whatever, do it in a club or somewhere it is likely to happen and expected. It's vile.

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By *ikesEmBigMan
over a year ago

Herts

I get embarrassed if I've left my flies open. Have has a whole conversation with someone when. Then realise afterwards and dwell in the shame

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I honestly do not understand this at all.

I do not care what gender you are, informed consent is a thing a very serious thing. I hate the double standard but I hate the absolute disrespect towards the people who are unaware that this is about to happen. I think it is so wrong and I get people may like to be exhibitionist or whatever, do it in a club or somewhere it is likely to happen and expected. It's vile."

Yes. Clubs and private parties for implied consent. Otherwise the safe assumption is that people do not consent (whether or not it can be proven in court, surely we don't need a legal standard to not be dickheads!)

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray

I have to add that this evening while Mr was on shift that a woman answered the door inappropriately dressed inviting him inside, she was being very provocative! It doesn't even have to be that they have shown you body parts, it is about behaviour and unwanted advances, obv he declined her offer and she was clearly upset by this, again..what could she do when that door is closed, you don't go to work to be in these situations and it just shouldn't be happening..Needless to day this woman was reported to his managers, but I highly doubt they will do anything about it because he is a man! It needs to change!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I have to add that this evening while Mr was on shift that a woman answered the door inappropriately dressed inviting him inside, she was being very provocative! It doesn't even have to be that they have shown you body parts, it is about behaviour and unwanted advances, obv he declined her offer and she was clearly upset by this, again..what could she do when that door is closed, you don't go to work to be in these situations and it just shouldn't be happening..Needless to day this woman was reported to his managers, but I highly doubt they will do anything about it because he is a man! It needs to change!"

Agreed. It's about a power dynamic and in the age of 'the customer is always right', that includes when they do things like this.

Delivery drivers are just here to do a job, same as anyone else is when they go to work.

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By *olden_Road_to_SamarkandMan
over a year ago

LONDON

I've often flirted with female delivery drivers, and even had one in for a coffee.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The amount of flashes I get at work is insane. Men and women who can’t position a towel correctly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had the same experience a few times while doing my job, it does make you uncomfortable.

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"Had the same experience a few times while doing my job, it does make you uncomfortable. "

It's obv that the women who do it actually believe that the delivery driver that's stood on their doorstep that their advances are wanted...well because its a man...why wouldn't they...they couldn't be further from the truth, some drivers may well take them up...but not all!

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By *iglittleoneMan
over a year ago

B76 is home

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By *ylonseeker2023Man
over a year ago

Harwich

Years ago I think I would have suggested looking out for another job but then why the hell should you.

And in this day and age where its getting ruthless on the job market, this should be something that simply shouldn't have to be tolerated.

I think, being difficult to prove and for justified fear of this going nowhere, I might just get to the stage where I personally would take things into my own hands...not literally in that sense....lol

How about buying your own body cam - yes, I agree you shouldn't have to, but OK, just assume you buy one and then just proceed as follows;

Ring the doorbell and if confronted by someone in the nude, make sure it's filming and then suggest they please cover up, informing them it is on film. It is of course at this stage important sound is being recorded.

If the response isn't forthcoming, good question. Either take the footage back and hand in a written complaint and get a signature that the footage has been seen and was explicit.

If you really feel that your company won't listen, well, I can imagine myself taking matters in my own hands but even further.

By that I mean I'd just matter of factly unzip my trousers and flash back!!

Admittedly that might totally backfire but hmmm....OK, haha, maybe I need to think that through!!! Pmsl.

Honestly though, a body cam seems the only way. I fail to see how that could be used to your detriment if your footage clearly shows someone on it flashing.. I mean an obvious flash, not a slip of a nipple from beneath a dressing gown.A clear flash or full nudity being even better.

It astonishes me how widespread this problem is and it makes me wonder if there shouldn't possibly be training given or there even be a clear protocol and procedure to follow if your rights are infringed upon like this.

In the meantime, if by chance you get flashed by any ladies in fully fashioned stockings

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow


"Years ago I think I would have suggested looking out for another job but then why the hell should you.

And in this day and age where its getting ruthless on the job market, this should be something that simply shouldn't have to be tolerated.

I think, being difficult to prove and for justified fear of this going nowhere, I might just get to the stage where I personally would take things into my own hands...not literally in that sense....lol

How about buying your own body cam - yes, I agree you shouldn't have to, but OK, just assume you buy one and then just proceed as follows;

Ring the doorbell and if confronted by someone in the nude, make sure it's filming and then suggest they please cover up, informing them it is on film. It is of course at this stage important sound is being recorded.

If the response isn't forthcoming, good question. Either take the footage back and hand in a written complaint and get a signature that the footage has been seen and was explicit.

If you really feel that your company won't listen, well, I can imagine myself taking matters in my own hands but even further.

By that I mean I'd just matter of factly unzip my trousers and flash back!!

Admittedly that might totally backfire but hmmm....OK, haha, maybe I need to think that through!!! Pmsl.

Honestly though, a body cam seems the only way. I fail to see how that could be used to your detriment if your footage clearly shows someone on it flashing.. I mean an obvious flash, not a slip of a nipple from beneath a dressing gown.A clear flash or full nudity being even better.

It astonishes me how widespread this problem is and it makes me wonder if there shouldn't possibly be training given or there even be a clear protocol and procedure to follow if your rights are infringed upon like this.

In the meantime, if by chance you get flashed by any ladies in fully fashioned stockings

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I believe It is illegal to wear body cam and film on their private property without their permission with a few legally allowed exceptions to protect the house holder (police, bailiffs etc.). The downside of wearing a body cam would also be risk of violence as many may not be happy. Yes you’d have it on camera potentially but still you might be having a violent encounter.

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By *usbandandktCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Crazy that people do this and think it’s ok and to consider the other side of the coin, if he did a delivery and someone opened the door to him there with his nob out, he would be on a register and in a police cell before he could even say “please sign here”

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By *ylonseeker2023Man
over a year ago

Harwich


"Had the same experience a few times while doing my job, it does make you uncomfortable.

It's obv that the women who do it actually believe that the delivery driver that's stood on their doorstep that their advances are wanted...well because its a man...why wouldn't they...they couldn't be further from the truth, some drivers may well take them up...but not all!"

I am pleased that you do see men as individuals rather than utter every ready sex beasts, more to the point who and under what circumstances someone else catches our eye and dare I add stimulates us, really is an individual thing and dare I say our reaction or "receptiveness" ..(is that even a word ) is likely to fluctuate from day to day, even change during the course of the day!

I know this is the case if I go by former partners and yeah, it's not just a female trait.

I'll get shot down now by my contemporaries, some of whom will claim they are ever ready and always horny. Lol. As a 13, 14 Yr old, well, I will admit I had little else on my mind, hence I guess many a teenage girl gets into trouble with pregnancy.

Anyhow, not everyone gets much out of a naked mum at the door whilst the kids are creating hell about their school uniform in the background...

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"Years ago I think I would have suggested looking out for another job but then why the hell should you.

And in this day and age where its getting ruthless on the job market, this should be something that simply shouldn't have to be tolerated.

I think, being difficult to prove and for justified fear of this going nowhere, I might just get to the stage where I personally would take things into my own hands...not literally in that sense....lol

How about buying your own body cam - yes, I agree you shouldn't have to, but OK, just assume you buy one and then just proceed as follows;

Ring the doorbell and if confronted by someone in the nude, make sure it's filming and then suggest they please cover up, informing them it is on film. It is of course at this stage important sound is being recorded.

If the response isn't forthcoming, good question. Either take the footage back and hand in a written complaint and get a signature that the footage has been seen and was explicit.

If you really feel that your company won't listen, well, I can imagine myself taking matters in my own hands but even further.

By that I mean I'd just matter of factly unzip my trousers and flash back!!

Admittedly that might totally backfire but hmmm....OK, haha, maybe I need to think that through!!! Pmsl.

Honestly though, a body cam seems the only way. I fail to see how that could be used to your detriment if your footage clearly shows someone on it flashing.. I mean an obvious flash, not a slip of a nipple from beneath a dressing gown.A clear flash or full nudity being even better.

It astonishes me how widespread this problem is and it makes me wonder if there shouldn't possibly be training given or there even be a clear protocol and procedure to follow if your rights are infringed upon like this.

In the meantime, if by chance you get flashed by any ladies in fully fashioned stockings

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I do appreciate what your saying here...it is perfectly legal to record in a public place, bit the reason drivers don't jave them is that as soon as that door opens your no longer in that public place, your recording someone's private property, and let's say he did get a camera and it's noticed, is that person then going to report him and then potentially loose his job...this is such a difficult thing to prove in any scenario, what makes it more difficult is that he start in the afternoon and sometimes doesn't finish until 11pm!

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By *iglittleoneMan
over a year ago

B76 is home

It's wrong but it's nice

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By *ister_ee_1981Man
over a year ago

Sunniest Exeter...


"I don’t think it’s acceptable and would probably report actually.

Some people are so self entitled that they think their “kink” is more important than other peoples wishes. It’s vile.

Genuine swingers and kinksters wouldn’t force their kink on people xx "

This! Some people forget that men have the right to say no too! Its a no brainer that the delivery person doesn't flash their customers...

They will start carrying body cams soon to protect themselves!

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By *olden_Road_to_SamarkandMan
over a year ago

LONDON

I had a delivery job in my 20s and was frequently flashed. I must say that i thought it was hilarious and sometimes (rarely i think) sexy, but never threatening. Admittedly it was always women, but never once did i have any feelings about consent or uncomfortableness etc. They seemed to enjoy it and it always put a smile on my face. Then again i'm quite confident and outgoing, quite masculine in outlook, and grew up watching the likes of Benny Hill etc....

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By *orthernman71Man
over a year ago

N

Ex wife loved doing it …even bought outfits to do it

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over a year ago


"I honestly do not understand this at all.

I do not care what gender you are, informed consent is a thing a very serious thing. I hate the double standard but I hate the absolute disrespect towards the people who are unaware that this is about to happen. I think it is so wrong and I get people may like to be exhibitionist or whatever, do it in a club or somewhere it is likely to happen and expected. It's vile.

Yes. Clubs and private parties for implied consent. Otherwise the safe assumption is that people do not consent (whether or not it can be proven in court, surely we don't need a legal standard to not be dickheads!)"

Exactly

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By *impcuckMan
over a year ago

edge of taunton

body cams will be the norm soon i and mrs have them for when walking the dogs due to idiots walking theirs without leads and lose control the rspca/police recomended this to us due to the breeds we rescue and just like most company vans are now tracked the staff will be wearing body cams too

to me if your a flasher man or woman then you fully deserve to be on the sex offenders list its a very scum thing to do

you only have to prove they answered the door naked once thats proven then they will take things further , ask yourself this why would someone in everyday life answer the door partly or fully naked if its not to flash someone ? the law is clear consent is needed, and people wonder why these laws are being updated often recently if a guy does it he gets the book thrown at him yet a female doing it is deemed as funny but to most its really not .

as i said earlier the sad thing is we are a scene that relies on consent yet its ok to break that concent for a giggle that is until it goes wrong of course, flashers are no better than others who commit sexual harrestment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's vile. I'd report it to work and do the police, even if they say they can't take it further, get the incident number. It's absolutely vile and unacceptable.

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By *iner69erMan
over a year ago

inverness


"It's vile. I'd report it to work and do the police, even if they say they can't take it further, get the incident number. It's absolutely vile and unacceptable."
spoilsport,lol. I'd be delighted if it happened to me.

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds


"It's vile. I'd report it to work and do the police, even if they say they can't take it further, get the incident number. It's absolutely vile and unacceptable.spoilsport,lol. I'd be delighted if it happened to me."

Sure, you might be delighted, but what about the hundreds of others that wouldn't be? Don't their feelings count? And how delighted would you be if it was somebody you found repulsive doing the flashing?

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"body cams will be the norm soon i and mrs have them for when walking the dogs due to idiots walking theirs without leads and lose control the rspca/police recomended this to us due to the breeds we rescue and just like most company vans are now tracked the staff will be wearing body cams too

to me if your a flasher man or woman then you fully deserve to be on the sex offenders list its a very scum thing to do

you only have to prove they answered the door naked once thats proven then they will take things further , ask yourself this why would someone in everyday life answer the door partly or fully naked if its not to flash someone ? the law is clear consent is needed, and people wonder why these laws are being updated often recently if a guy does it he gets the book thrown at him yet a female doing it is deemed as funny but to most its really not .

as i said earlier the sad thing is we are a scene that relies on consent yet its ok to break that concent for a giggle that is until it goes wrong of course, flashers are no better than others who commit sexual harrestment "

Unfortunately for drivers they can't wear cameras because as so enter that garden amd know on that door it then becomes a private dwelling which is not prohibited

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"I had a delivery job in my 20s and was frequently flashed. I must say that i thought it was hilarious and sometimes (rarely i think) sexy, but never threatening. Admittedly it was always women, but never once did i have any feelings about consent or uncomfortableness etc. They seemed to enjoy it and it always put a smile on my face. Then again i'm quite confident and outgoing, quite masculine in outlook, and grew up watching the likes of Benny Hill etc...."

My other half is the most outgoing person you will ever meet, he can talk amd have banter with people..that doesn't mean he should be ok with being flashed at!

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By *ung nine inchMan
over a year ago

leeds

My mrs boobs are 40ee huge love when she teaseing other men

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"It's vile. I'd report it to work and do the police, even if they say they can't take it further, get the incident number. It's absolutely vile and unacceptable.spoilsport,lol. I'd be delighted if it happened to me.

Sure, you might be delighted, but what about the hundreds of others that wouldn't be? Don't their feelings count? And how delighted would you be if it was somebody you found repulsive doing the flashing? "

I'm sure this person would think twice that it could potentially have severe consequences!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's vile. I'd report it to work and do the police, even if they say they can't take it further, get the incident number. It's absolutely vile and unacceptable.spoilsport,lol. I'd be delighted if it happened to me.

Sure, you might be delighted, but what about the hundreds of others that wouldn't be? Don't their feelings count? And how delighted would you be if it was somebody you found repulsive doing the flashing? "

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By *iner69erMan
over a year ago

inverness


"It's vile. I'd report it to work and do the police, even if they say they can't take it further, get the incident number. It's absolutely vile and unacceptable.spoilsport,lol. I'd be delighted if it happened to me.

Sure, you might be delighted, but what about the hundreds of others that wouldn't be? Don't their feelings count? And how delighted would you be if it was somebody you found repulsive doing the flashing? "
Not bothered about others feelings. If it was somebody repulsive,I'd ignore them. Hopefully it would be a hot looking girl,lol

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"It's vile. I'd report it to work and do the police, even if they say they can't take it further, get the incident number. It's absolutely vile and unacceptable.spoilsport,lol. I'd be delighted if it happened to me.

Sure, you might be delighted, but what about the hundreds of others that wouldn't be? Don't their feelings count? And how delighted would you be if it was somebody you found repulsive doing the flashing? Not bothered about others feelings. If it was somebody repulsive,I'd ignore them. Hopefully it would be a hot looking girl,lol"

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It's vile. I'd report it to work and do the police, even if they say they can't take it further, get the incident number. It's absolutely vile and unacceptable.spoilsport,lol. I'd be delighted if it happened to me.

Sure, you might be delighted, but what about the hundreds of others that wouldn't be? Don't their feelings count? And how delighted would you be if it was somebody you found repulsive doing the flashing? Not bothered about others feelings. If it was somebody repulsive,I'd ignore them. Hopefully it would be a hot looking girl,lol"

Charming.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow


"It's vile. I'd report it to work and do the police, even if they say they can't take it further, get the incident number. It's absolutely vile and unacceptable.spoilsport,lol. I'd be delighted if it happened to me.

Sure, you might be delighted, but what about the hundreds of others that wouldn't be? Don't their feelings count? And how delighted would you be if it was somebody you found repulsive doing the flashing? Not bothered about others feelings. If it was somebody repulsive,I'd ignore them. Hopefully it would be a hot looking girl,lol"

"Not bothered about others feelings" - you should make that the tagline to your profile. It's got quite a ring to it

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By *tes2010Man
over a year ago

Near you

Does it not become flashing in a public place once you open your front door? Plus, and this is a big plus… That persons doorstep is your place of work. Regardless of the ownership of the property etc, that is your workplace.

I used to go to a regular caller quite often and whenever we would pull up outside you would see her blinds move. If it was a double male ambulance crew, she would be naked when she answered the door. If there was a female crew, she would be fully clothed. That happened for a few weeks before we finally had a warning on her address “no solo male staff to attend”.

There was also another regular patient who would insist on having a 12 lead ecg being done every time you attended her. There was even one occasion that she asked me to “inspect her vagina” as she was “having palpitations” in it.

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By *iner69erMan
over a year ago

inverness


"Does it not become flashing in a public place once you open your front door? Plus, and this is a big plus… That persons doorstep is your place of work. Regardless of the ownership of the property etc, that is your workplace.

I used to go to a regular caller quite often and whenever we would pull up outside you would see her blinds move. If it was a double male ambulance crew, she would be naked when she answered the door. If there was a female crew, she would be fully clothed. That happened for a few weeks before we finally had a warning on her address “no solo male staff to attend”.

There was also another regular patient who would insist on having a 12 lead ecg being done every time you attended her. There was even one occasion that she asked me to “inspect her vagina” as she was “having palpitations” in it.

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How do I get that job?

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By *tes2010Man
over a year ago

Near you


"Does it not become flashing in a public place once you open your front door? Plus, and this is a big plus… That persons doorstep is your place of work. Regardless of the ownership of the property etc, that is your workplace.

I used to go to a regular caller quite often and whenever we would pull up outside you would see her blinds move. If it was a double male ambulance crew, she would be naked when she answered the door. If there was a female crew, she would be fully clothed. That happened for a few weeks before we finally had a warning on her address “no solo male staff to attend”.

There was also another regular patient who would insist on having a 12 lead ecg being done every time you attended her. There was even one occasion that she asked me to “inspect her vagina” as she was “having palpitations” in it.

How do I get that job?"

Go to uni for three years

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By *iner69erMan
over a year ago

inverness

Can't be bothered with that. Will just have to try for delivery,and hope there's a load of ladies out there waiting to flash,lol

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

If I wanted to flash the Amazon delivery guy I'd need a moped.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

^^ for clarity, I don't

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Can't be bothered with that. Will just have to try for delivery,and hope there's a load of ladies out there waiting to flash,lol"

Probably easier and more likely to get a load of ladies to agree to flashing scenarios with you

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By *iner69erMan
over a year ago

inverness


"Can't be bothered with that. Will just have to try for delivery,and hope there's a load of ladies out there waiting to flash,lol

Probably easier and more likely to get a load of ladies to agree to flashing scenarios with you"
that'll do for me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I wanted to flash the Amazon delivery guy I'd need a moped."

will that help as they just throw it over the fence?

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By *ellishornyMan
over a year ago

surrey

I’m a delivery driver and it has happened a few times and I don’t take offence to it and wouldn’t act on it unless invited lol most people have ring door bells now so they know who is there before they answer as well

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"If I wanted to flash the Amazon delivery guy I'd need a moped.

will that help as they just throw it over the fence? "

They put it in our porch and run away .

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By *ellishornyMan
over a year ago

surrey


"If I wanted to flash the Amazon delivery guy I'd need a moped.

will that help as they just throw it over the fence?

They put it in our porch and run away . "
I think if they saw your profile pics they would hang around for a signature every time x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If I wanted to flash the Amazon delivery guy I'd need a moped.

will that help as they just throw it over the fence?

They put it in our porch and run away . "

Euphemism?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"If I wanted to flash the Amazon delivery guy I'd need a moped.

will that help as they just throw it over the fence?

They put it in our porch and run away . I think if they saw your profile pics they would hang around for a signature every time x "

That's a nice thing to say but I have to disappoint you by owning up...I don't dress like that all the time

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex


"If I wanted to flash the Amazon delivery guy I'd need a moped.

will that help as they just throw it over the fence?

They put it in our porch and run away .

Euphemism? "

a euphemism for some encounters we've had maybe

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow


"I’m a delivery driver and it has happened a few times and I don’t take offence to it and wouldn’t act on it unless invited lol most people have ring door bells now so they know who is there before they answer as well "

And on lots of delivery platforms they give you name and pic before. Got very excited a few times expecting Tatiana or Anastasia but then Muhammed or Pedro shows up.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"If I wanted to flash the Amazon delivery guy I'd need a moped.

will that help as they just throw it over the fence?

They put it in our porch and run away .

Euphemism?

a euphemism for some encounters we've had maybe "

I've had some deliveries thrown over my hedge.

I know I'm overdue for a shave but it's not that bushy down there

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By *ellishornyMan
over a year ago

surrey

Delivered a massage table today high end one had to put it in the spare room was hoping the dressing gown would open and offer me a massage for the heavy lifting instead I got a thank you and a smile love my job

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By *aroer821Man
over a year ago

Belfast


"Laughing at the comments about reporting to manager. I don't know what the OP means by shopping delivery but a lot of these services are now outsourced GIG jobs - Deliveroo, Uber Eats, Just Eats, Beelivery, Stuart etc. but also Amazon, Evri, etc and even Royal Mail are employing people delivery by delivery. The employer would be highly unlikely to give a toss (may pay lip service but nothing else). Possible people may get banned from certain services but then can set up a new account. As for body cams you would get reported yourself and fired for doing that. In the worse cases it would have to be the police but can't imagine them caring much either unless really bad. Suspect man flashing women more likely to get their attention but even then easy to brush it off if at somebody's home.

I meant to report to the police and not their manager (albeit I’d do that too so they knew I’d gone to the police).

I’d like to think the larger companies would be supportive but understand your point about the smaller companies x

I didn't mean you specifically. I was referring to various comments. I wonder what the police would do if you reported saying you are delivery man and a lady answered the door naked to you. I suspect nothing. Actually I think the smaller companies might be responsive than the larger ones. Do you think large companies like Deliveroo or Amazon would do anything? You don't even have a "manager" in those types of organisations.

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So you think big companies will do nothing if you report that you have been sexually abused repeatedly? Big companies have policies to respond to harassment and abuse. If OP reports verbally and without witnesses to the manager I agree that nothing will happen, but if reporting is in written form, through the right channel, and the OP is persistent and knows how to play the game, a failure to respond escalates very quickly and you will have the HR department involved as soon as they hear about a sex abuse complaint.

I'm really shocked at your lack of understanding this! At no point did my post say that it was an accidental flash, maybe some of them were, but most of them were not, men having dressing gowns open completely naked in full veiw of the driver is acceptable is it? Because its in his own house...unfortunately people like you belittle consent, it's sexual harassment, or a woman with a very short skirt turning round, bend over and everything is on show...no..these are not mistakes! "

I totally understand what you’re saying, I work in public buildings sometimes in private home and naturally stuff like that can happen,is it accidental? On purpose I do not know.

But straight to the point I would be nervous cause if they phone the company I could lose my job. Ad it has been mentioned there’s no consent and where are you supposed to look?

I totally respect and understand people dress in certain ways but if your waiting for a delivery or workman/woman to carry out work you be ready for them not half naked or revealing.

If you know the person and stuff it’s a different story

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By *ooo wet tight hornyWoman
over a year ago

lancashire


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***

He should ask for a body cam just incase, like you said it only take one person to make a false complaint for him to get in trouble over it

No idea why people think this is OK, especially when the other person knows there address, these women could just as easy flash the 'wrong person' and cause themselves some serious trouble "

I agree with this...get him a body camera so every thing is recorded...the people doing the 'flashing' are getting off at this...at your fella's expense

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By *londebiguyMan
over a year ago

Southport


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***"

Definitely not acceptable at all.

Just weird behaviour.

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By *londebiguyMan
over a year ago

Southport


"Delivered a massage table today high end one had to put it in the spare room was hoping the dressing gown would open and offer me a massage for the heavy lifting instead I got a thank you and a smile love my job "

Strange in the first place for them to even be in a dressing gown.

I'm guessing that you were not their type .

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By *aroer821Man
over a year ago

Belfast

Very good idea,I think over time it will come to that people will have to wear a body camera.happens in bars like

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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago

Away with the fairies (Liverpool to you)

Maybe he should start wearing a body cam, if for no other reason but to prove he isn’t the instigator.

Flashing is a nice kink but I guess in the day and age it could be dangerous for all concerned

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

You can’t just wear a body cam and film on somebody’s properly. It’s only legal for certain professions - police, debt collectors. Etc to protect the people they are visiting or I believe to film a crime (which wouldn’t be doing vast majority of the time) And data protection issues for your employer. Law aside open yourself up to aggressive even violent people who object to you filming them - telling the average person you are only doing it in case somebody flashes you not going to help.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

*property not properly

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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago

Away with the fairies (Liverpool to you)

I understand but surely if it’s for your protection and making a delivery isn’t on their property if you’re just at their door, different if you had to go in their house I guess.

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By *olden_Road_to_SamarkandMan
over a year ago

LONDON


"I had a delivery job in my 20s and was frequently flashed. I must say that i thought it was hilarious and sometimes (rarely i think) sexy, but never threatening. Admittedly it was always women, but never once did i have any feelings about consent or uncomfortableness etc. They seemed to enjoy it and it always put a smile on my face. Then again i'm quite confident and outgoing, quite masculine in outlook, and grew up watching the likes of Benny Hill etc....

My other half is the most outgoing person you will ever meet, he can talk amd have banter with people..that doesn't mean he should be ok with being flashed at!"

I think most of us poor kittens can deal with it OK. Trauma and PTSD associated with it is quite low on the scale.....

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante


"Delivered a massage table today high end one had to put it in the spare room was hoping the dressing gown would open and offer me a massage for the heavy lifting instead I got a thank you and a smile love my job

Strange in the first place for them to even be in a dressing gown.

I'm guessing that you were not their type ."

Why is it strange to wear a dressing gown in your own house?

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By *ny1localMan
over a year ago

READING


"You can’t just wear a body cam and film on somebody’s properly. It’s only legal for certain professions - police, debt collectors. Etc to protect the people they are visiting or I believe to film a crime (which wouldn’t be doing vast majority of the time) And data protection issues for your employer. Law aside open yourself up to aggressive even violent people who object to you filming them - telling the average person you are only doing it in case somebody flashes you not going to help. "
is wearing a body cam at work any different to cyclists and drivers wearing or using cams? Delivery workers could argue it's incase they're attacked.

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By *iner69erMan
over a year ago

inverness


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***

Definitely not acceptable at all.

Just weird behaviour."
If it's women doing it,I would argue it's VERY acceptable.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***

Definitely not acceptable at all.

Just weird behaviour. If it's women doing it,I would argue it's VERY acceptable."

Why?

Are men not allowed to not find sexual contact welcome?

That seems misandrist.

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By *iner69erMan
over a year ago

inverness


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***

Definitely not acceptable at all.

Just weird behaviour. If it's women doing it,I would argue it's VERY acceptable.

Why?

Are men not allowed to not find sexual contact welcome?

That seems misandrist."
why very acceptable? Cos it's great,getting to see the ladies flashing at you.especially if it leads to some fun.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

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Definitely not acceptable at all.

Just weird behaviour. If it's women doing it,I would argue it's VERY acceptable.

Why?

Are men not allowed to not find sexual contact welcome?

That seems misandrist.why very acceptable? Cos it's great,getting to see the ladies flashing at you.especially if it leads to some fun."

So because you think you'd like it, you get to say all men get to like it?

Again, this seems misandrist. Men are individuals.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow


"I understand but surely if it’s for your protection and making a delivery isn’t on their property if you’re just at their door, different if you had to go in their house I guess. "

I don't believe that is the case. You are allowed to film from the street as public but not once you step onto their property - their front garden/driveway. Perhaps one day this will change but it makes sense. I don't want to be filmed by any random person delivering to my house (and with delivery services these days it could be anyone with a car almost) and trust that the video will be deleted. Not to mention them filming my teenage kids answering the door.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***

Definitely not acceptable at all.

Just weird behaviour. If it's women doing it,I would argue it's VERY acceptable.

Why?

Are men not allowed to not find sexual contact welcome?

That seems misandrist.why very acceptable? Cos it's great,getting to see the ladies flashing at you.especially if it leads to some fun."

That may be the case for you but you don't speak for all men. Personally I wouldn't mind up to a point but can see why lots wouldn't like it.

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over a year ago


"So my husband is a home shopping delivery driver, and has been "accidently" flashed by men and women, more women though, it makes him very uncomfortable and usually turns round, he's also been questioned as to why he turned round when it's glaringly obvious why, the whole situation makes him uncomfortable because even if he did for that split second look,you just don't know what the person does as soon as that doors closed..phone his place or work to complain that a driver has just sexually abused her or just looking in an inappropriate manner!

We are no prudes by any means.. that much is obvious

This brings us to wonder why it is that people feel that this is acceptable, and as said above it is men to and to be precise in the 4 years he's been doing the job 2 men have done this, but more so women, every week he comes back and talks about this happening on shift

I think if it was a man flashing his bits to a female driver there would be an uproar

So why does it come accross that it's acceptable for women to do this to men!

Thoughts please?

***Forum only chat***

Definitely not acceptable at all.

Just weird behaviour. If it's women doing it,I would argue it's VERY acceptable.

Why?

Are men not allowed to not find sexual contact welcome?

That seems misandrist.why very acceptable? Cos it's great,getting to see the ladies flashing at you.especially if it leads to some fun."

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By *ootprints1629 OP   Couple
over a year ago

somewhere in moray


"You can’t just wear a body cam and film on somebody’s properly. It’s only legal for certain professions - police, debt collectors. Etc to protect the people they are visiting or I believe to film a crime (which wouldn’t be doing vast majority of the time) And data protection issues for your employer. Law aside open yourself up to aggressive even violent people who object to you filming them - telling the average person you are only doing it in case somebody flashes you not going to help. is wearing a body cam at work any different to cyclists and drivers wearing or using cams? Delivery workers could argue it's incase they're attacked."

I can't speak for every type of delivery company, and if they are doing it then it shouldn't be happening, its perfectly legal to film in public, but the moment you enter someone's garden or standing in their door way it then becomes private property which you are not permitted to video cam!

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By *ickawitchCouple
over a year ago

Away with the fairies (Liverpool to you)

Don’t get me wrong, I hate the whole big brother thing . These day there is nowhere you can go ( except maybe your own house) that they can’t watch you on camera.

That being said the way society is today there is a need to protect yourself from attack physically or verbally and of course false allegations, ( there seems to be a big increase in this these days as well ) .

But I do feel very strongly in the right to be naked on your own property without fear of persecution.

We generally only get dressed to leave the house. Though I do put on a dressing gown to answer the door.

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By *ealitybitesMan
over a year ago

Belfast

30 years ago one of my staff reported that he was really uncomfortable with a customer flashing him almost every week.

It had been going on for a few months and he laughed it off initially but then decided to report it in case he somehow got in trouble.

All he was doing was collecting keys to get access to a pub he was delivering to and the woman was a keyholder but not the owner.

I went with him the following week and I went to the door but nothing happened although she was in a dressing gown at 2 in the afternoon.

I asked the owner of the pub if we could make different arrangements without telling her what was going on and her response was to ask if that stupid cow was doing it again?

The issue was resolved but the young guy was only 18 or 19 at the time and embarrassed to admit he was uncomfortable. He even said his friends would laugh at him if he told them.

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By *aoulDuke1Man
over a year ago

Bristol


"It’s completely wrong, you should never involve unconsenting people in your kinks, simple as that."

This.

It's a consent violation, and morally no different to a dirty mac in the park.

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By *WINGStars23Couple
48 weeks ago

Northwest

The Mr.

I drive part for a supermarket, I've never been flashed at by a woman. I had a cross dresser come to the door in the most ridiculously tight cheer leaders outfit made i think to fit a 12 year old. And blokes in speedos.

I have been assaulted though by a customer and been verbally abused over substitutions.

I would prefer a woman flashing to assault any day.

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By *ellishornyMan
48 weeks ago

surrey


"The Mr.

I drive part for a supermarket, I've never been flashed at by a woman. I had a cross dresser come to the door in the most ridiculously tight cheer leaders outfit made i think to fit a 12 year old. And blokes in speedos.

I have been assaulted though by a customer and been verbally abused over substitutions.

I would prefer a woman flashing to assault any day."
I certainly would be over the moon if your good lady flashed me whilst delivering to her nothing like a wardrobe malfunction at the right time

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By *rpeggioCouple
48 weeks ago

Baughurst


"The Mr.

I drive part for a supermarket, I've never been flashed at by a woman. I had a cross dresser come to the door in the most ridiculously tight cheer leaders outfit made i think to fit a 12 year old. And blokes in speedos.

I have been assaulted though by a customer and been verbally abused over substitutions.

I would prefer a woman flashing to assault any day.I certainly would be over the moon if your good lady flashed me whilst delivering to her nothing like a wardrobe malfunction at the right time "

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By saying this, you are suggesting consent. The issue is when it's been imposed on drivers that are not consenting and do not like it.

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By *r X46Man
48 weeks ago

Liverpool

Maybe delivery people could wear a badge to tell people if they are comfortable with people flashing them

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By *ellishornyMan
48 weeks ago

surrey


"Maybe delivery people could wear a badge to tell people if they are comfortable with people flashing them"
there will be a waiting list for them lol

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By *weetsmellingtreatsWoman
48 weeks ago

Gloucester


"Some people dont know the first signs

Probably scenario at a doorstep (prohibitive action)

Worse if more people were flashing (same house) Hired Dwarves From a Special school to join in for sick jokes to take pictures

Who keeps those mind lives with them/ext

Pretty sick & unforgettable if you had , but never repayable for they're concerned - pre,,drug dealing/ punch-ups next.quo,but

Fore Reasoned why this is mentioned

Page 3 got it

Subjected, lawed

If you'd be caught & mark down monk path. Then hunted by C4 news found rearranging Crufts/National front line in a house

You'd have known you done it yourself "

What?

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By *irth VaderMan
48 weeks ago

glasgow

He should ask his employer to supply him a body cam the same way police and other job roles are using now. If hen he would have evidence to take action if he felt he wanted to. Also it’s proof that he hasn’t said or done anything that could be alleged.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
48 weeks ago

Great Dunmow


"He should ask his employer to supply him a body cam the same way police and other job roles are using now. If hen he would have evidence to take action if he felt he wanted to. Also it’s proof that he hasn’t said or done anything that could be alleged. "

It against the law to film using a body cam on somebody’s property except for certain legal defined cases (like police and debt collectors). It is allowed in public areas but but once you enter somebody’s front garden or equivalent it is not public.

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By (user no longer on site)
48 weeks ago


"It’s completely wrong, you should never involve unconsenting people in your kinks, simple as that.

This.

It's a consent violation, and morally no different to a dirty mac in the park.

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48 weeks ago

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