FabSwingers.com forum: Lack of meets, how and why,

By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays.

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By *heVonMatterhornsCouple
over a year ago

Lincoln

I can't offer any profile advice unless you specifically ask for it because that gets people a timeout for some reason. *wink wink*

LvM

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By *lueDressWoman
over a year ago

Bath

I can only speak for Myself but if I'm not interested in somebody's outlook, personality, looks, then I wouldn't be interested in meeting them obviously. Sometimes the profile gives things away other times it doesn't.

I know a few people who have left this site because they didn't feel comfortable for whatever reason.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You gotta be bad, you gotta be bold, you gotta be wiser.

You gotta be hard, you gotta be tough, you gotta be stronger.

You gotta be cool, you gotta be calm, you gotta stay together.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"I can't offer any profile advice unless you specifically ask for it because that gets people a timeout for some reason. *wink wink*

LvM"

You can if its relevant. It says so in the rules.

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Back of the bins.

As lorenzo says we can’t offer advice on your profile but take into consideration that 4-5 lines is not going to hold anyone’s interest.

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By *heVonMatterhornsCouple
over a year ago

Lincoln

"I can't offer any profile advice unless you specifically ask for it because that gets people a timeout for some reason. *wink wink*

LvM

You can if its relevant. It says so in the rules. "

Tell the admins that

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By *illy IdolMan
over a year ago

Midlands

"You gotta be bad, you gotta be bold, you gotta be wiser.

You gotta be hard, you gotta be tough, you gotta be stronger.

You gotta be cool, you gotta be calm, you gotta stay together."

Couldn't help but sing that in a woman's voice in my head

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

I know a song like that

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

Like to check who's near when I see these threads and it's 5 to 1, men compared to women and couples so exceptional numbers of men isn't the issue.

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By *eyond PurityCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

We tend to look for people who make an effort with their profile.

If it’s detailed and has enticing pics instead of cock pics then we know they are at least on the same wavelength as us and use FAB how we do.

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By *ibLeiMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays. "

Unless you are among the elite in terms of attractiveness, online dating is going to be a challenge for any single straight guy - due to the gender imbalance as you mentioned.

I don’t think there is any formula to “crack” Fab. Try to be the best version of yourself, polite and well-mannered, and keep your expectations low.

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

I get that, but some dont see past the first huddle and then it becomes hard work.

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

I Always reply to private messages

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By *illy IdolMan
over a year ago

Midlands

I'm not saying you personally should do it, but some decent photos and a paragraph will always help.

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

I know im deffo not in the elite profile,

But im always 100% honest, well mannered and true to myself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have an enticing profile blurb.

Have enticing pictures.

Don’t be a dick.

That’s about it, the rest is down to chance. Does the other person wanna know ya, fancy ya, etc.

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By *evilandTheBeastCouple
over a year ago

Peterborough and Bedford

OP, your post on here is longer than your very generic bio!

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By *evilandTheBeastCouple
over a year ago

Peterborough and Bedford

"I know im deffo not in the elite profile,

But im always 100% honest, well mannered and true to myself.

However, this does not come through in your bio, which basically reads "I'm a man on a sex site and I want women to throw themselves at me just because I am a man on a sex site".

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By *uliette500Woman
over a year ago

Hull

Just bear in mind before even reading or opening your message most women will look at your profile first.

If there is nothing there to catch their eye or pique their interest your message will usually get deleted or ignored.

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

How would a person catch your eye.

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

Brill, i like the way you read, great advise.

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By *iss KinkWoman
over a year ago

North West

"Just bear in mind before even reading or opening your message most women will look at your profile first.

If there is nothing there to catch their eye or pique their interest your message will usually get deleted or ignored. "

This ^^

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

"Just bear in mind before even reading or opening your message most women will look at your profile first.

If there is nothing there to catch their eye or pique their interest your message will usually get deleted or ignored.

This ^^"

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

"Just bear in mind before even reading or opening your message most women will look at your profile first.

If there is nothing there to catch their eye or pique their interest your message will usually get deleted or ignored.

This ^^"

Super, how would one cstch your eye

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"OP, your post on here is longer than your very generic bio! "

At least it's not paragraph after paragraph of psychotic entitled b/s eh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just bear in mind before even reading or opening your message most women will look at your profile first.

If there is nothing there to catch their eye or pique their interest your message will usually get deleted or ignored. "

This.

If someone hasn’t bothered to make an effort with their profile and photos I have no interest in finding out any more about them.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Hi op

How have you come to the conclusion that it's 250 per woman to every guy? Not everyone is needy and prefer a touch of class some have long standing friends then there is preference bb some don't. it's quite competitive then you've got the ball breaker distance each location will either be low or higher percentage or mid range hence travel to explore further

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By *imisugarWoman
over a year ago

Rugby

"You gotta be bad, you gotta be bold, you gotta be wiser.

You gotta be hard, you gotta be tough, you gotta be stronger.

You gotta be cool, you gotta be calm, you gotta stay together."

Love this song

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"Like to check who's near when I see these threads and it's 5 to 1, men compared to women and couples so exceptional numbers of men isn't the issue."

Yep. People often says 100 to 1. Now it is inflated to 250 but in my area I would say more like 10 to 1. Still not great numbers and not easy but nowhere near as hard as people make out.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

I think profile advice would be within Forum rules given the topic of the thread but I won't go there just in case

Don't want to take one for the team

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"I know im deffo not in the elite profile,

But im always 100% honest, well mannered and true to myself.

Which is what most people are but needs to be something else like attraction both ways able to pull interest so their hung by the thought of wanting to explore further and if they like will be putty in your hands

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think profile advice would be within Forum rules given the topic of the thread but I won't go there just in case

Don't want to take one for the team

Go on! Be a gent!

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"I think profile advice would be within Forum rules given the topic of the thread but I won't go there just in case

Don't want to take one for the team

Go on! Be a gent!

Ladies first naturally

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

OP profile wise you can browse the hundreds of other men near you and assess how you compare with text and pics. imagine you are a lady with even 10 men to choose from never mind 100s. Profile aside there is always the usual advice of getting out there to group socials etc. and building a network.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays. "

Accept your odds are 250+/1

Attend clubs and socials.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"I can't offer any profile advice unless you specifically ask for it because that gets people a timeout for some reason. *wink wink*

LvM

You can if its relevant. It says so in the rules.

Tell the admins that

LvM"

From the rules

Unless someone specifically asks for their profile to be critiqued or if it's relevant to the thread e.g. someone is wondering why they're not having success, please don't critique their profile or be mean about it. We want the forum to be open and friendly to newbies and everyone starts somewhere.

Maybe they need to read the rules?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not easy on here for anyone tbh

People think that because there are more men than women that the women are having a whale of a time when they aren't

For every 50 messages a women receives probably 49 of those people are either disrespectful, don't match what they're looking for or they don't find them attractive

If a specific woman isn't interested, she not suddenly going to become interested because there are less men available

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"I can't offer any profile advice unless you specifically ask for it because that gets people a timeout for some reason. *wink wink*

LvM

You can if its relevant. It says so in the rules.

Tell the admins that

LvM

From the rules

Maybe they need to read the rules?"

It's seem not only are we allowed to critique the profile but also be mean about it

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By *ornywelsh2sumCouple
over a year ago

Neath valley.

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By *ornywelsh2sumCouple
over a year ago

Neath valley.

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By *ornywelsh2sumCouple
over a year ago

Neath valley.

We cannot be everyone's cup of tea. Some people have preferences on age,body type, height,fetishes,bi/ straight, and even dick size. Fab has always been hard but now due to the influx of childish knobs who insult when you say no think you everyone is being more choosey who/when they meet. Also most on here do not look to play regularly, they like us dip in and out of fab when they feel the urge.

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By *ibLeiMan
over a year ago

Manchester

"I Always reply to private messages "

Easy for us single men to reply to any message. Any account that has a lady attached to it will receive messages in the hundreds. It’s near unfeasible to respond to everything (unless it becomes a full time job), hence why “they” leave these messages on read.

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By *r SensualMan
over a year ago

London

In all honesty, I find no matter how much you express yourself to be a decent person in your messages and have an “excellent” profile that 99.9% of the time your message won’t even be read, let alone replied to.

I know it’s been said many many times but as a man your best bet when it comes to getting meets is to get away from your phone screen and get yourself out there to clubs and organised socials where your personality can really shine through. There, you can be taken on face value as opposed to prejudged like on here because of certain characteristics you have that you have little to no control over.

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By *rozac_fairyCouple
over a year ago

Tamworth

Some profiles, you just look at, see the lack of effort and decide it isn't worth putting any effort into even a simple "no thank you".

We personally open up a profile before we even open a message. If there is nothing in the bio that gives clues to who the person is, what they're looking etc them I'm not interested. Likewise, if the profile is uninteresting pics... poor lighting, just peen, close ups of chest etc then I'm not interested.

Men often really sell themselves short on here. I'm not saying the most amazing profile ever will help but its something over nothing at all. Past that, it's easier to meet people when you go out where the people are

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By *ope_kisses22Couple
over a year ago

Hyde

The number of meets can be equal to the amount of effort that a person makes in their profile ....

I know I personally look for personality, info on what they're looking for (so then work out if that could be me) would we be compatible sexual and as people (depending on the type of meet)

I defo don't look for the kind of 'ask me' profiles

Also.... remember that you're in prime location to attend at Townhouse!

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple
over a year ago

Cumbria

People who make an effort with their profile, and their messages, and match what we are looking for get a reply. After that it’s whether they have that certain something, although it’s very hard to say what that certain something is!

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

Great points to take on board, and all very civil,

I dont mind honest and frank advice,

Happy fabbing, happy weekend one and all

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

I would take no notice of the numbers on this site.

Its a bit irrelevant as 75% have no intention of meeting.

If you make a bit of effort, put yourself about at socials, clubs and holidays all the rest will drop into place.

We've met some brilliant single guys but they are few in numbers.

Most on here talk a good fight !!

Good luck.

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

"The number of meets can be equal to the amount of effort that a person makes in their profile ....

I know I personally look for personality, info on what they're looking for (so then work out if that could be me) would we be compatible sexual and as people (depending on the type of meet)

I defo don't look for the kind of 'ask me' profiles

Also.... remember that you're in prime location to attend at Townhouse! "

Yes, i need to take the bull by its horns and try townhouse, one when i have the balls to enter alone.

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By *ope_kisses22Couple
over a year ago

Hyde

Yes, i need to take the bull by its horns and try townhouse, one when i have the balls to enter alone. "

They have newbie nights..... and they have general open access nights where you can just go for a wander.

Also Genx nights..... for ppl of that generation

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

Yes, i need to take the bull by its horns and try townhouse, one when i have the balls to enter alone.

They have newbie nights..... and they have general open access nights where you can just go for a wander.

Also Genx nights..... for ppl of that generation

Will give a try (hopefully)

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple
over a year ago

Leeds

"I can't offer any profile advice unless you specifically ask for it because that gets people a timeout for some reason. *wink wink*

LvM"

This

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Go on! Be a gent!

Ladies first naturally

Touché

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

"I can't offer any profile advice unless you specifically ask for it because that gets people a timeout for some reason. *wink wink*

LvM

This

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Great pics x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I get that, but some dont see past the first huddle and then it becomes hard work. "

Why should they? You have a profile to make the first impression. They will look and decide if they are interested enough to take it further.

What kind of woman are you looking for?

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By *cnugatugMan
over a year ago

Chatham

Try 1000 men to 1 female bro the odds aren't in our favour but us genuine fellas keep on going

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman
over a year ago

Carlisle usually

The numbers are irrelevant. If someone is interesting, attractive amd compatible then it doesn't matter how many that aren't are cluttering up the inbox

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By *ustamanMan
over a year ago

weymouth

"Like to check who's near when I see these threads and it's 5 to 1, men compared to women and couples so exceptional numbers of men isn't the issue."

Depends on location, seems to be 15-1 near me when I do the whole mobile thing

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By *ohemianBristolMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"The numbers are irrelevant. If someone is interesting, attractive amd compatible then it doesn't matter how many that aren't are cluttering up the inbox

I adore the quote "The numbers are irrelevant. Standing out is way more important!

Plus even if there is that initial interest, attraction and compatibility. Meeting might reveal it to not be the case! So many are good on paper!

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By *rancois Du BoisMan
over a year ago

Down the back of the sofa.

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays.

Unless you are among the elite in terms of attractiveness, online dating is going to be a challenge for any single straight guy - due to the gender imbalance as you mentioned.

I don’t think there is any formula to “crack” Fab. Try to be the best version of yourself, polite and well-mannered, and keep your expectations low."

This ‘elite’ you talk of still have to work at this, I do really well but don’t consider myself ’elite attractiveness’

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By *orny-DJMan
over a year ago

Leigh-on-Sea

As others have elluded to, most people that you message will check out your profile before even considering opening whatever you might have sent them. If they're unimpressed, they'll either delete it straight away or just leave it unread.

Because your original thread post doesn't specifically ask for assistance, or necessarily personalise the difficulties you're experiencing - rather making assumptions about the general experiences of the majority of users - though not entirely accurate, it could be argued that your post doesn't fall into the boundaries set out in the forum rules regarding profile advice, so I'm going to refrain from volunteering any as I don't really fancy a spell on the naughty step.

I would ask you though, if you came across a profile like yours, would you be interested in finding out more?

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

Flagrante

"Like to check who's near when I see these threads and it's 5 to 1, men compared to women and couples so exceptional numbers of men isn't the issue.

Depends on location, seems to be 15-1 near me when I do the whole mobile thing"

Definitely, but local is probably important so even 15 to 1 is better than 250 to 1.

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By *eresa_cdslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Bodmin

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays. "

a profile should be interesting, yours is like so many single men's profiles, even down to the poor grammar and spelling! So sorry to be negative and unhelpful.

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By *enelope2UWoman
over a year ago

Fife

Your profile screams bed notcher

No substance fuck and ghost her after

Sure there's females on here with minimum standards that might love that

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By *enelope2UWoman
over a year ago

Fife

"The numbers are irrelevant. If someone is interesting, attractive amd compatible then it doesn't matter how many that aren't are cluttering up the inbox

Amen

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By *he force is strongeCouple
over a year ago

somewhere

It's not just single guys that are having problems meeting on hear,couples and pretty much a lot of us are in the same board, obviously not everyone I am sure there are people still meeting through the site or what's the point in subscribing? There are always has been and always will be the fake profiles and the dreamers,in the years we have been on hear we have only met a handful of people from the site,most of our meets and friends have come from visiting clubs and socials.

Ye we know we are not the most sexy couple on hear nor do we have delusions of grandeur but we are genuine and real,honest and open xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some profiles, you just look at, see the lack of effort and decide it isn't worth putting any effort into even a simple "no thank you".

Totally agree. For me it’s face pic, or at least a couple of different pics - not just cock. I want to see someone’s body, their style and het a sense of them.

A personal blurb which tells me something about then - doesn’t have to be long but more than just ‘I’m here and wanna play’. I want to be able to get a sense of them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try not trying. It really takes the edge off

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays. "

If there's 250 men to each woman you have to work hard at standing out.

You also need to use all the tools Fab gives you, a biog, photo gallery, messages, the forums, clubs, meet forum, meet posts, socials and group socials.

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By *ornywelsh2sumCouple
over a year ago

Neath valley.

"It's not just single guys that are having problems meeting on hear,couples and pretty much a lot of us are in the same board, obviously not everyone I am sure there are people still meeting through the site or what's the point in subscribing? There are always has been and always will be the fake profiles and the dreamers,in the years we have been on hear we have only met a handful of people from the site,most of our meets and friends have come from visiting clubs and socials.

Ye we know we are not the most sexy couple on hear nor do we have delusions of grandeur but we are genuine and real,honest and open xx"

Nothing wrong with you both or your profile. Fab can be hard for most on times.

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By *ovetolick78Man
over a year ago

The Shire

Being myself and polite has done me ok, I know I'm not for everyone but then everyone's not for me.

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By *uliette500Woman
over a year ago

Hull

"How would a person catch your eye. "

I cant make direct comments about your profile but most women look for good photos (not just dick pics) and a bio that tells us something about you, what you can offer and what you are looking for.

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By *partharmonyCouple
over a year ago

Ruislip

"I know im deffo not in the elite profile,

But im always 100% honest, well mannered and true to myself.

But you need a good profile to stand much of a chance.

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

Ye we know we are not the most sexy couple on hear nor do we have delusions of grandeur but we are genuine and real,honest and open xx"

Fantastic profile x

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

"Your profile screams bed notcher

No substance fuck and ghost her after

Sure there's females on here with minimum standards that might love that

Thank you.

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By *aGaGagging for itCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

You've got 3 sentences in your bio. You know the ratio but you're not selling yourself.

Same old advice as to everyone asking this question - go to clubs and socials.

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

"You've got 3 sentences in your bio. You know the ratio but you're not selling yourself.

Same old advice as to everyone asking this question - go to clubs and socials."

Thank you

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
over a year ago

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays.

Unless you are among the elite in terms of attractiveness, online dating is going to be a challenge for any single straight guy - due to the gender imbalance as you mentioned.

I don’t think there is any formula to “crack” Fab. Try to be the best version of yourself, polite and well-mannered, and keep your expectations low.

This ‘elite’ you talk of still have to work at this, I do really well but don’t consider myself ’elite attractiveness’ "

It's just something people who don't do well on here like to say to help them cope better. No truth in it whatsoever.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We will just echo what most people say. Get out and meet people in real life. We regularly go to parties and nearly always play with people at them. We rarely meet people online. We've had one meet from Fab all year.

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By *amnaughtybutniceWoman
over a year ago

tf1

And still no changes to his profile.

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By *rDextra4Man
over a year ago

Nottingham

Yes same as me from Nottingham. Men do not get the attention like women which is fine but when you try your best it's feels like there nothing more can be done. So it's wait a d see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And there’s still only the three original lines.

I honestly don’t know why people ask for advice then totally ignore it.

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

"And there’s still only the three original lines.

I honestly don’t know why people ask for advice then totally ignore it."

Maybe ive been working this weekend and not been able to fix the great advice ive received,

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

"And still no changes to his profile. "

Not had chance as been working, but thanks for taking a look and rooting for me, as soon as ive changed it i will get right back to you

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By *quirtyfun69Couple
over a year ago

Burnley

We would recommend clubs us a good start and a bit more detail in bio

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By *nytime2023Couple
over a year ago

Gloucestershire

Just to echo what others have said. You need to stand out, we get 30+ messages a day and it’s impossible to respond to all of them. Nothing beats going to clubs and socials to get to know people in the scene. For all the messages we have only had two successful meets from Fab (both single guys) A decent profile and a veri or two and you’ll be on your way x

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"And still no changes to his profile.

Not had chance as been working, but thanks for taking a look and rooting for me, as soon as ive changed it i will get right back to you "

Yes but you had time 13 hours ago to write a status update about looking for nipple play/boobs. You have more words in that status update than your profile!

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

PS the boobs that you want generally come attached to lady

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe ive been working this weekend and not been able to fix the great advice ive received, "

Sorry but as GL quite rightly said, you’ve had time to update your status.

Anyone who is really serious about being successful on Fab would have made the changes needed.

Just my tuppence worth of course.

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

Maybe ive been working this weekend and not been able to fix the great advice ive received,

Sorry but as GL quite rightly said, you’ve had time to update your status.

Anyone who is really serious about being successful on Fab would have made the changes needed.

Just my tuppence worth of course."

Ok, well come do my job, see what time you get, im often not even home, sorry this has upset you and you have lots of free time.

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By *rancois Du BoisMan
over a year ago

Down the back of the sofa.

Maybe ive been working this weekend and not been able to fix the great advice ive received,

Sorry but as GL quite rightly said, you’ve had time to update your status.

Anyone who is really serious about being successful on Fab would have made the changes needed.

Just my tuppence worth of course."

You’re absolutely right, if I’m adjusting mine I’ll do it in notes on my phone. Then I can go in and out, move stuff about etc. I swear some don’t even read what they’ve written!

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

Maybe ive been working this weekend and not been able to fix the great advice ive received,

Sorry but as GL quite rightly said, you’ve had time to update your status.

Anyone who is really serious about being successful on Fab would have made the changes needed.

Just my tuppence worth of course.

Ok, well come do my job, see what time you get, im often not even home, sorry this has upset you and you have lots of free time. "

If you've got time to log in, read and respond to these posts you've got time to update your profile a bit.

There's more words in your reply here than there is in your profile.

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays. "

You have to resign yourself that the female and couple profiles willingbto meet men is extremely limited. These that are here have very specific requirements/fantasies that most of us here are unlikely to meet, and so are unlikely to be responded to.

And before anyone starts yelling at me this is not a criticism its simply how it is

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays.

And before anyone starts yelling at me this is not a criticism its simply how it is"

It is not how it is if you put some effort in and make yourself appealing. And the 250 to 1 number seems to be getting traction

More like 10 to 1 but it’s a good excuse for no effort

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

Maybe ive been working this weekend and not been able to fix the great advice ive received,

Sorry but as GL quite rightly said, you’ve had time to update your status.

Anyone who is really serious about being successful on Fab would have made the changes needed.

Just my tuppence worth of course.

Ok, well come do my job, see what time you get, im often not even home, sorry this has upset you and you have lots of free time. "

How are you going to get time for nipple play if so busy?

. You must be rolling in boobies after that status update

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By *TaR105 OP Man
over a year ago

Birkenhead

Maybe ive been working this weekend and not been able to fix the great advice ive received,

Sorry but as GL quite rightly said, you’ve had time to update your status.

Anyone who is really serious about being successful on Fab would have made the changes needed.

Just my tuppence worth of course.

Ok, well come do my job, see what time you get, im often not even home, sorry this has upset you and you have lots of free time.

How are you going to get time for nipple play if so busy?

. You must be rolling in boobies after that status update "

You seem to be vocal a lot on my post. Its getting boring now.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

Maybe ive been working this weekend and not been able to fix the great advice ive received,

Sorry but as GL quite rightly said, you’ve had time to update your status.

Anyone who is really serious about being successful on Fab would have made the changes needed.

Just my tuppence worth of course.

Ok, well come do my job, see what time you get, im often not even home, sorry this has upset you and you have lots of free time.

How are you going to get time for nipple play if so busy?

. You must be rolling in boobies after that status update

You seem to be vocal a lot on my post. Its getting boring now.

That’s another few minutes wasted looking at my profile and replying here. You could have written a couple of sentences on your profile in that time

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By *rancois Du BoisMan
over a year ago

Down the back of the sofa.

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays.

And before anyone starts yelling at me this is not a criticism its simply how it is

It is not how it is if you put some effort in and make yourself appealing. And the 250 to 1 number seems to be getting traction

More like 10 to 1 but it’s a good excuse for no effort "

You raise a good point there.

Once we take away the women who are too far away, then the ones out of my age preference or that are playing away, and the women who are not looking for someone like me. There are probably 20-30 suitable women I want to reach out too. I’m quite choosey, so I can probably whittle that down to high teens on profile Content and aesthetics.

The fallacy is that you are going to message every women on the site. Cos every woman isn’t going to appeal to you.

Unless ‘any hole is a goal’ which is just disrespectful in the extreme.

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford

OP, you have posted on a public forum, asking why you are not getting any meets. You got some great advice that so far you not only chose to disregard hiding behind having a busy job, but you also chose to snap at people who gave you helpful advice and called you out on not doing anything with that advice. It is not going to get you what you are after. On contrary, it is going to make it harder for you on here as many women do read forum posts. I myself do regularly, and I have messaged a guy who is now my partner (will be 5 years on Halloween) because of how he was presenting himself on the forum.

I have also blocked a few people I have met before in person for how they were presenting themselves on the forum.

So please, less snapping back at people who are trying to be helpful and more having a look at yourself and how you want to portray yourself.

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By *aughty_builder87Man
over a year ago

Keston

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays.

And before anyone starts yelling at me this is not a criticism its simply how it is

It is not how it is if you put some effort in and make yourself appealing. And the 250 to 1 number seems to be getting traction

More like 10 to 1 but it’s a good excuse for no effort "

me and a friend did a rough calculation based on users active in the last 24hrs. Although it’s not 100% accurate we worked out in our area there was approximately 30to1. Within my friends group the women were averaging 200 new messages a day. So yes the 250 is overblown as a single guy you’re not competing with 29 other guys for the attention of one woman you’re competing with hundreds for the a small handful of women. Some guys will be able to garner the attention of multiple women, others will get nothing. It’s known as prices law or The Pareto principle.

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By *imisugarWoman
over a year ago

Rugby

"OP, you have posted on a public forum, asking why you are not getting any meets. You got some great advice that so far you not only chose to disregard hiding behind having a busy job, but you also chose to snap at people who gave you helpful advice and called you out on not doing anything with that advice. It is not going to get you what you are after. On contrary, it is going to make it harder for you on here as many women do read forum posts. I myself do regularly, and I have messaged a guy who is now my partner (will be 5 years on Halloween) because of how he was presenting himself on the forum.

I have also blocked a few people I have met before in person for how they were presenting themselves on the forum.

So please, less snapping back at people who are trying to be helpful and more having a look at yourself and how you want to portray yourself. "

Agreed but it's a very handy tool for filtering out people you wouldn't want to interact and social with.

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford

Agreed but it's a very handy tool for filtering out people you wouldn't want to interact and social with.

Oh, definitely, I use that tool myself

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By *imisugarWoman
over a year ago

Rugby

Agreed but it's a very handy tool for filtering out people you wouldn't want to interact and social with.

Oh, definitely, I use that tool myself

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These forums have helped me a lot. My personal take. There is an assumption this website is easy to use and constant hooking up. The slightest inclination it's hard work or you have to actually demonstrate what's potentially on offer. Negatively and complaining ensues.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays.

And before anyone starts yelling at me this is not a criticism its simply how it is

It is not how it is if you put some effort in and make yourself appealing. And the 250 to 1 number seems to be getting traction

More like 10 to 1 but it’s a good excuse for no effort

30 to 1 is more like it in most areas. It is 10-15 near me. Plus also 10-15 single males to couples looking men. Of course it is not that simple as some will be meeting more than others and getting messages from out of area but it's a rough guide.

Yes some ladies get lots of messages. My experience with friends is nowhere near 200 every day (ditto with couples in my experience as a couple) unless looking for meets but you are right there is lots to sift through. And guess what.......first thing most will do 1. Delete the one or two word messages 2. Delete ones with horrible/offensive profile names. 3. Check profile and probably delete those if nothing written of substance or one or two crap pictures making no effort.

Laughing at reference to the Pareto principle (economic graduate here) which in swinging terms would be that 20% of men get 80% of the action. Probably more like 5% of men get 95% of the action mainly because 95% fail at the first hurdle.

I've known ladies put up Meet requests before and really struggle to find a sensible man who will actually meet. Either crap profile, crap messages or just all talk.

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By *aughty_builder87Man
over a year ago

Keston

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays.

And before anyone starts yelling at me this is not a criticism its simply how it is

It is not how it is if you put some effort in and make yourself appealing. And the 250 to 1 number seems to be getting traction

More like 10 to 1 but it’s a good excuse for no effort

I've known ladies put up Meet requests before and really struggle to find a sensible man who will actually meet. Either crap profile, crap messages or just all talk. "

The Pareto principle works in nearly everything that you apply it to. Again from reading friends inbox’s there is a clear theme of dick pics two messages and meet now messages. Understanding basic steps and following them with get people twice as far.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Find it odd that some people who walk down the same path are surprised when they arrive at the same place.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

The Pareto principle works in nearly everything that you apply it to. "

Nearly everything is a stretch especially using the 80/20 numbers. More like applies to many areas where there is an uneven distribution of outcomes. I would say 20% of people quoting the Pareto principle account for 80% of the cases of the correct application of the Pareto principle

but it sounds good.

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By *aughty_builder87Man
over a year ago

Keston

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By *aughty_builder87Man
over a year ago

Keston

The Pareto principle works in nearly everything that you apply it to.

but it sounds good. "

Well price’s law then but as you say if you simplify it to uneven distribution it can be applied to anything from dating to music to economics.

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By *entle_lover_xMan
over a year ago

Great Dunmow

The Pareto principle works in nearly everything that you apply it to.

but it sounds good.

Well price’s law then but as you say if you simplify it to uneven distribution it can be applied to anything from dating to music to economics. "

Well Prices law can’t be applied to everything either or do you think 50% of every outcome can be accounted for by the square root of the number of things contributing to the outcome? Blatantly not true in most cases. If you reduce it to just meaning an uneven distribution of outcomes then yes can use the terms but then they become meaningless as virtually everything has an uneven distribution of outcomes. This has got me all hot under the collar. Need some boobies and nipple play. Never thought I would say when a geeky nerd studying Pareto 35 years ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok, well come do my job, see what time you get, im often not even home, sorry this has upset you and you have lots of free time. "

Firstly let me reassure you that I’m not in the least bit upset.

Secondly, I have a very demanding career but I can multitask.

Thirdly this will be my last communication with you on the subject.

Good luck OP.

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By *aughty_builder87Man
over a year ago

Keston

The Pareto principle works in nearly everything that you apply it to.

but it sounds good.

Well price’s law then but as you say if you simplify it to uneven distribution it can be applied to anything from dating to music to economics.

It’s hard to give exact numbers and figures when it comes to swinging, but understanding it to a rudimentary level along side the hierarchy of values explains why some people have more success than others. You can be as good looking as you like if you don’t know how to portray yourself and have the right mindset then you will struggle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I thought id take a look at the thread see what it's all about. Bio 3 lines. 1 hairy chest and cock pic. Came out straight away. Absolutely nothing of interest. Yes I know I meet black but there's always a chance someone may catch my eye but not in this case. Do take all the advice you've been given. You need to

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By *aughty_builder87Man
over a year ago

Keston

"Well I thought id take a look at the thread see what it's all about. Bio 3 lines. 1 hairy chest and cock pic. Came out straight away. Absolutely nothing of interest. Yes I know I meet black but there's always a chance someone may catch my eye but not in this case. Do take all the advice you've been given. You need to"

Out of morbid curiosity what would you say about mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out of morbid curiosity what would you say about mine"

Good clear bio. SYs eat you would like and would want. Good variety of pics. Yep not bad at all

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By *aughty_builder87Man
over a year ago

Keston

Out of morbid curiosity what would you say about mine

Good clear bio. SYs eat you would like and would want. Good variety of pics. Yep not bad at all"

Thanks so just need to be better at approaching people then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out of morbid curiosity what would you say about mine

Good clear bio. SYs eat you would like and would want. Good variety of pics. Yep not bad at all

Thanks so just need to be better at approaching people then"

Only you know how you approach people. Cant help.you with that im afraid. Respect. Reading their profile . Understand their wants. You should be fine

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By *adyinred696969Couple
over a year ago

Brecon

There are 3 ways to massively increase your success rate on here...

1, Go to the organised socials.

2, Go to the organised socials.

3, Go to....seriously, are you gonna make me type it again?

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By *inglelady2022Woman
over a year ago

inverness

Thanks, another one for the block list

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By *alleyDaveMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays.

Unless you are among the elite in terms of attractiveness, online dating is going to be a challenge for any single straight guy - due to the gender imbalance as you mentioned.

I don’t think there is any formula to “crack” Fab. Try to be the best version of yourself, polite and well-mannered, and keep your expectations low.

This ‘elite’ you talk of still have to work at this, I do really well but don’t consider myself ’elite attractiveness’ "

You must be doing something right .You have 39 meets veris in the last year ,I have none in the year and half I've been on here .

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By *alleyDaveMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"You've got 3 sentences in your bio. You know the ratio but you're not selling yourself.

Same old advice as to everyone asking this question - go to clubs and socials."

I have a long detailed bio ,it hasn't helped me ,so I don't see how someone's bio makes the difference.

And ,as for your point about clubs and organised socials , maybe not everyone is interested in that.

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By *alleyDaveMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"There are 3 ways to massively increase your success rate on here...

1, Go to the organised socials.

2, Go to the organised socials.

3, Go to....seriously, are you gonna make me type it again?

Maybe not everyone is interested in organised socials . To me that seems like a sort of swinging speed dating . Don't people ever meet for a one on one public social for a coffee or bite to eat to see if there is a spark and attraction. ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are 3 ways to massively increase your success rate on here...

1, Go to the organised socials.

2, Go to the organised socials.

3, Go to....seriously, are you gonna make me type it again?

Don't worry about socials and clubs if they're not your thing. Many are cliquey and ignore men anyway.

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By *rancois Du BoisMan
over a year ago

Down the back of the sofa.

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays.

Unless you are among the elite in terms of attractiveness, online dating is going to be a challenge for any single straight guy - due to the gender imbalance as you mentioned.

I don’t think there is any formula to “crack” Fab. Try to be the best version of yourself, polite and well-mannered, and keep your expectations low.

This ‘elite’ you talk of still have to work at this, I do really well but don’t consider myself ’elite attractiveness’

You must be doing something right .You have 39 meets veris in the last year ,I have none in the year and half I've been on here ."

Don’t know where you got the 39 number I have 16 displayed!

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By *rancois Du BoisMan
over a year ago

Down the back of the sofa.

Don't worry about socials and clubs if they're not your thing. Many are cliquey and ignore men anyway.

Not my experience at all of socials

Put effort in, get results out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are 3 ways to massively increase your success rate on here...

1, Go to the organised socials.

2, Go to the organised socials.

3, Go to....seriously, are you gonna make me type it again?

Don't worry about socials and clubs if they're not your thing. Many are cliquey and ignore men anyway.

That is your opinion maybe let him decide for his self. All clubs are different

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By *aughty_builder87Man
over a year ago

Keston

"There are 3 ways to massively increase your success rate on here...

1, Go to the organised socials.

2, Go to the organised socials.

3, Go to....seriously, are you gonna make me type it again?

Don't worry about socials and clubs if they're not your thing. Many are cliquey and ignore men anyway.

That is your opinion maybe let him decide for his self. All clubs are different "

Agreed as a single guy I have made some really good friends going to Jaydees. I do far better going to Jaydees than I do being on fab. Going out gives you a much better opportunity to show off your personality then sitting behind a computer screen or on your phone

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Take a no reply as equal to a reply that says no thanks. The experience that we have here is sufficient for people to know their preferences, concerning replies after rejection.

The rules guide you to move on, when you get no reply. Keep life simple and do so.

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By *actilenorfolkgentMan
over a year ago

Norwich

It's when you arrange meets and either no shows or cancel on day that I find demoralising

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By *alleyDaveMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"There are 3 ways to massively increase your success rate on here...

1, Go to the organised socials.

2, Go to the organised socials.

3, Go to....seriously, are you gonna make me type it again?

Don't worry about socials and clubs if they're not your thing. Many are cliquey and ignore men anyway.

That is your opinion maybe let him decide for his self. All clubs are different "

Clubs and organised socials are definitely not for me .

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By *r SensualMan
over a year ago

London

"There are 3 ways to massively increase your success rate on here...

1, Go to the organised socials.

2, Go to the organised socials.

3, Go to....seriously, are you gonna make me type it again?

Don't worry about socials and clubs if they're not your thing. Many are cliquey and ignore men anyway.

That is your opinion maybe let him decide for his self. All clubs are different

Clubs and organised socials are definitely not for me ."

Have you actually been to one before? How do you know they’re not for you? Fair enough if you’ve put yourself out there by going and the experience wasn’t a pleasant one but, if you’re just flat out refusing to (which you’re within your right to do) with little to no rationale behind that doesn’t make a whole world of sense.

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By *illan-KillashMan
over a year ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays.

Unless you are among the elite in terms of attractiveness, online dating is going to be a challenge for any single straight guy - due to the gender imbalance as you mentioned.

I don’t think there is any formula to “crack” Fab. Try to be the best version of yourself, polite and well-mannered, and keep your expectations low.

This ‘elite’ you talk of still have to work at this, I do really well but don’t consider myself ’elite attractiveness’

You must be doing something right .You have 39 meets veris in the last year ,I have none in the year and half I've been on here ."

Maybe, just maybe, he got his verifications from clubs and group socials, the very thing you don't want to do.

One group social and you could get a dozen verifications in a few hours.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays.

Unless you are among the elite in terms of attractiveness, online dating is going to be a challenge for any single straight guy - due to the gender imbalance as you mentioned.

I don’t think there is any formula to “crack” Fab. Try to be the best version of yourself, polite and well-mannered, and keep your expectations low."

Agree.

This is not the place to get dates tbh. There are far better sites or apps for single guys no matter how polite and engaging you are.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

Don't worry about socials and clubs if they're not your thing. Many are cliquey and ignore men anyway.

I couldn't agree more! Having been to several clubs both as a single guy, and as a couple, and experienced the difference of feeling welcome, I would always recommend to a mate to visit clubs with a female friend alongside you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays. "

well your profile is awful and so are the 2 measly pics.

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By *en_Dover79Man
over a year ago

Oswaldtwistle

go to clubs and socials.. dont waste time cold messaging

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By *ewbie09Man
over a year ago

alcester

Just got to be yourself. I’m new to this whole scene (April 2023) and have had a fair bit of success. Don’t be a dick is what I will say and get yourself to clubs and make yourself known to people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays.

well your profile is awful and so are the 2 measly pics."

Oh dear. Guess you dnt like it. Just say it as it is. No filter lol

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By *cnugatugMan
over a year ago

Chatham

"The site is getting harder nowadays, people just seem to not reply,

I get there is 250 men to each lady member, i aslo get with comments men are rude or pushy,

But when being nice whats the days tip nowadays.

well your profile is awful and so are the 2 measly pics."

TBF your profile isn't much better really maybe work on your own profile first

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will look at someones profile and pictures and make a decision if we would vibe etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I Always reply to private messages "

And nobody gave you a medal yet? That's unfair.

How many messages do you receive on average, daily?

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By *quirtyfun69Couple
over a year ago

Burnley

People need to realise what they write or post to their profile can effect if someone's gonna meet them, with us it's pushiness

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