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"I actually prefer when it’s apparent they haven’t read the profile. One more useful filter. " That is an interesting way to think about it. We guys can always learn lessons from the ladies. | |||
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"I actually prefer when it’s apparent they haven’t read the profile. One more useful filter. " This made me smile! I like your thinking | |||
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"Guys I'm not being funny, but how hard is it to read a profile? You want access to her body and intimate areas and you want her to go out of her way to meet you, but you can't be bothered to read her likes and dislikes? But expect pussy or replies? How successful do you think you're going to be? Honestly some of you put me off ever meeting anyone from this site the way you behave. If you're struggling to get replies- this may be the reason why!! " why don’t you use the filters the site gives you and block single me and do your own searching ? Would save you having to do a post like this one . | |||
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"Guys I'm not being funny, but how hard is it to read a profile? You want access to her body and intimate areas and you want her to go out of her way to meet you, but you can't be bothered to read her likes and dislikes? But expect pussy or replies? How successful do you think you're going to be? Honestly some of you put me off ever meeting anyone from this site the way you behave. If you're struggling to get replies- this may be the reason why!! why don’t you use the filters the site gives you and block single me and do your own searching ? Would save you having to do a post like this one ." I do. But I also like a good rant | |||
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"Guys I'm not being funny, but how hard is it to read a profile? You want access to her body and intimate areas and you want her to go out of her way to meet you, but you can't be bothered to read her likes and dislikes? But expect pussy or replies? How successful do you think you're going to be? Honestly some of you put me off ever meeting anyone from this site the way you behave. If you're struggling to get replies- this may be the reason why!! " Sup? Hot photos. I'm hung and free, meet at yours NOW! | |||
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"Guys I'm not being funny, but how hard is it to read a profile? You want access to her body and intimate areas and you want her to go out of her way to meet you, but you can't be bothered to read her likes and dislikes? But expect pussy or replies? How successful do you think you're going to be? Honestly some of you put me off ever meeting anyone from this site the way you behave. If you're struggling to get replies- this may be the reason why!! " Unfortunately it's been like this for years. I used to get loads of couples asking me to do ffm when clearly I'm not into women | |||
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"I actually prefer when it’s apparent they haven’t read the profile. One more useful filter. " Problem is the filters prove only really 1% of the men who message us ladies are suitable very sad statistic | |||
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"Guys I'm not being funny, but how hard is it to read a profile? You want access to her body and intimate areas and you want her to go out of her way to meet you, but you can't be bothered to read her likes and dislikes? But expect pussy or replies? How successful do you think you're going to be? Honestly some of you put me off ever meeting anyone from this site the way you behave. If you're struggling to get replies- this may be the reason why!! " I for one always read a profile before i decide to message someone - better chance of getting a reply if the recipient can see you have shown an interest - although getting a reply at all is hard work!! I appreciate women get bombarded with crap messages but I don’t think all men on here should be put in the same boat? I Love pineapple!!! | |||
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"Guys I'm not being funny, but how hard is it to read a profile? You want access to her body and intimate areas and you want her to go out of her way to meet you, but you can't be bothered to read her likes and dislikes? But expect pussy or replies? How successful do you think you're going to be? Honestly some of you put me off ever meeting anyone from this site the way you behave. If you're struggling to get replies- this may be the reason why!! " I suspect that the guys replying here are not the one's you're aiming for!? | |||
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"Judging by the state of most guys in clubs they can't be arsed to make an effort in person either. Honestly so depressing for Mrs, no wonder she prefers women lol. " That's funny! Couples don't make any effort either! | |||
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"I actually prefer when it’s apparent they haven’t read the profile. One more useful filter. " Exactly this, straight block. Mrs | |||
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"Guys I'm not being funny, but how hard is it to read a profile? You want access to her body and intimate areas and you want her to go out of her way to meet you, but you can't be bothered to read her likes and dislikes? But expect pussy or replies? How successful do you think you're going to be? Honestly some of you put me off ever meeting anyone from this site the way you behave. If you're struggling to get replies- this may be the reason why!! " See.. you would think this was my problem.. but no.. I read everything.. include the “word in the subject” and often don’t even get a reply.. | |||
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"I actually prefer when it’s apparent they haven’t read the profile. One more useful filter. " This is our attitude to it as well...when it's obvious they haven't read the profile it's an instant block lol Mrs | |||
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"That's funny! Couples don't make any effort either!" Well couples consist of 2 people, usually a man and a woman. And while the woman is often/usually attractively turned out, often the guys look like they've made zero effort. That was the point. | |||
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"By the look of some of the male profiles on here, they have problems reading or writing." Yes totally or they really cagey about what they reveal but who will meet someone without knowing what they look like?? | |||
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"I do actually like to read all profiles to see if suitable or warrants a message and hello Only grumble is some are way way too long as war and peace not needed as a intro" Same here. I get about 5 lines i then think " fuck it. You sound like hard work." | |||
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"I do actually like to read all profiles to see if suitable or warrants a message and hello Only grumble is some are way way too long as war and peace not needed as a intro Same here. I get about 5 lines i then think " fuck it. You sound like hard work."" Just Read this sexy lady profile and clearly very very funny and to the point too and no mistaking ...made my morning | |||
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"I do actually like to read all profiles to see if suitable or warrants a message and hello Only grumble is some are way way too long as war and peace not needed as a intro Same here. I get about 5 lines i then think " fuck it. You sound like hard work." Just Read this sexy lady profile and clearly very very funny and to the point too and no mistaking ...made my morning" Ta | |||
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"That's funny! Couples don't make any effort either! Well couples consist of 2 people, usually a man and a woman. And while the woman is often/usually attractively turned out, often the guys look like they've made zero effort. That was the point." Yes you're right, my comment also meant that make 0 effort in talking to people a lot of the time. They sit about expecting something! | |||
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"We've had 2 men that replied CBA to read it when asked if they had read oh profiles. Instant block lol " Yep... They only look at the pics | |||
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"Guys I'm not being funny, but how hard is it to read a profile? You want access to her body and intimate areas and you want her to go out of her way to meet you, but you can't be bothered to read her likes and dislikes? But expect pussy or replies? How successful do you think you're going to be? Honestly some of you put me off ever meeting anyone from this site the way you behave. If you're struggling to get replies- this may be the reason why!! " This is a good thing. You don't want to meet dickheads Dickheads message you and tell you straight away that they are dickheads How exactly is this a problem? | |||
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"I suspect it's as many as it is women who will look at a guy's photos before deleting the message without reading it or reading the profile of the guy sending it. " Congratulations on missing the point by astronomical measures. | |||
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"I suspect it's as many as it is women who will look at a guy's photos before deleting the message without reading it or reading the profile of the guy sending it. Congratulations on missing the point by astronomical measures. " I don't think so! I was talking as a generalisation not so much about the op. Many won't read a message even if the profile has been read and the messenger meets requirements 100%, if the face doesn't fit.... FYI I will always read a profile before looking at the photos. I can tell more about the person from a profile than I can a photo. One full of demands I will pass by, as I will one where I don't match the criteria. I'm not desperate so quite happy to point out the hypocrisy of some on here. Generally of course! | |||
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"I often never read the damn things. A very long profile often suggests a narcissistic and self-indulgent personality behind the profile, and too much work just for a little fun and sex. This means that men, with the best of intentions, who spend time reading it, writing a “nice” and respectful message, don’t even get their messages read, or read and unanswered cos they weren’t exciting enough, or at best, it is read and a monotonous one-line response follows. We all know that what people are here for, is how good you look and the pics is the often the only thing that gets majority of the women to be responsive. So if you want to be successful on here as a man, work on yourself - body, mind and spirit and send your cheeky one-liners. Just don’t make it creepy that’s all. " So. Much. Nope. If you don't read a profile then how do you know what people are looking for? We're a couple but have a fundamentally different dynamic to many other couples, which is obviously missed by many that can't be arsed to spend two minutes reading our profile, hence their messages get deleted, they get blocked and our life is made much easier. If you can't be bothered to put the minimum effort in to read a profile, no matter how long, then it's little surprise messages get binned. A | |||
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"It really sucks to have that experience, I would say it equally sucks to have the experience of being completely ignored and blanked. I try to read profiles, explain what I am looking for, and look for common ground, but due to the high volume of men vs women, it doesn't matter at all because I can send hundreds of messages and just due to pure statistics get no responses. It really does sometimes make you feel worthless, and I know a lot of guys share that experience. So really we have 2 extremes of a spectrum, women are inundated in unwanted and inappropriate contacts leading to them not engaging (because why would you?) while men are starved for anything at all, which leads them to act out as much as possible to stand out, and that often means being creepy or weird. I'd love to know what people think would be a good solution to this problem? Because as a person I'd love nothing more than be able to have everyone comfortable and find what they're looking for, but it doesn't seem entirely possible when the solution for the guys is incompatible with the girls and vice versa." If I was the Fab administrators, I’d try out a little experiment whereby I disable messaging (except reply) functions for all men for a month, and see how the dynamics change when the demand is cut off. This will give women the chance to message who they are interested in, and try to be interesting based on the profile requirements of the men, and see what it is like for a man, not only on Fab, but in life, in general. I can guarantee you that only a few men will get all the messages, and that will be the fit, masculine and cheeky guys with numerous verifications. That will exactly mirror how we have been designed by nature. Women will compete for the same men who are desired by most. | |||
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"I often never read the damn things. A very long profile often suggests a narcissistic and self-indulgent personality behind the profile, and too much work just for a little fun and sex. This means that men, with the best of intentions, who spend time reading it, writing a “nice” and respectful message, don’t even get their messages read, or read and unanswered cos they weren’t exciting enough, or at best, it is read and a monotonous one-line response follows. We all know that what people are here for, is how good you look and the pics is the often the only thing that gets majority of the women to be responsive. So if you want to be successful on here as a man, work on yourself - body, mind and spirit and send your cheeky one-liners. Just don’t make it creepy that’s all. So. Much. Nope. If you don't read a profile then how do you know what people are looking for? We're a couple but have a fundamentally different dynamic to many other couples, which is obviously missed by many that can't be arsed to spend two minutes reading our profile, hence their messages get deleted, they get blocked and our life is made much easier. If you can't be bothered to put the minimum effort in to read a profile, no matter how long, then it's little surprise messages get binned. A" That’s the thing, the men put in the effort and they still don’t get a response, so why should they bother? Men are logical, we try for positive outcomes and if it doesn’t work, we try something else or don’t go down the same route that yields dismal outcomes. It’s our very nature. Your profile is very long, and frankly tells me and other men that it isn’t worth it. That’s some feedback for you. Maybe block all men and do the searching for what you seek yourself. It should mean no one can then message you and piss you off, cos they didn’t read your profile. | |||
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"I often never read the damn things. A very long profile often suggests a narcissistic and self-indulgent personality behind the profile, and too much work just for a little fun and sex. This means that men, with the best of intentions, who spend time reading it, writing a “nice” and respectful message, don’t even get their messages read, or read and unanswered cos they weren’t exciting enough, or at best, it is read and a monotonous one-line response follows. We all know that what people are here for, is how good you look and the pics is the often the only thing that gets majority of the women to be responsive. So if you want to be successful on here as a man, work on yourself - body, mind and spirit and send your cheeky one-liners. Just don’t make it creepy that’s all. So. Much. Nope. If you don't read a profile then how do you know what people are looking for? We're a couple but have a fundamentally different dynamic to many other couples, which is obviously missed by many that can't be arsed to spend two minutes reading our profile, hence their messages get deleted, they get blocked and our life is made much easier. If you can't be bothered to put the minimum effort in to read a profile, no matter how long, then it's little surprise messages get binned. A That’s the thing, the men put in the effort and they still don’t get a response, so why should they bother? Men are logical, we try for positive outcomes and if it doesn’t work, we try something else or don’t go down the same route that yields dismal outcomes. It’s our very nature. Your profile is very long, and frankly tells me and other men that it isn’t worth it. That’s some feedback for you. Maybe block all men and do the searching for what you seek yourself. It should mean no one can then message you and piss you off, cos they didn’t read your profile." Mkay..... Our profile works fine thanks. Always has and continued to do so. Many men don't put in the effort though do they. Which is fine. Because it enables couples and single women to make assessments without even opening a message. Most look at the senders profile even before opening, which is why so many just get deleted or left unread. Those that do get read? It's obvious if they've put the time in (hardly a big ask) to read what you've written and if it's evident they haven't - yep, it's the bin again. We message guys we like the look of. Plenty of women and couples do the same. It saves sifting through endless profiles that have been thrown together in a rush because they think, as you've stated, that 'everyone is here for the same thing'. They're not. Never have been. And the claim everyone just seeks out the pretty folk and gym fit is quite amusing. But hey. You do you if it works then great. But consider which demographic is constantly moaning about not getting meets, getting messages deleted and not getting replies. Because I'll give you a clue. It's not women or couples. A | |||
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"I often never read the damn things. A very long profile often suggests a narcissistic and self-indulgent personality behind the profile, and too much work just for a little fun and sex. This means that men, with the best of intentions, who spend time reading it, writing a “nice” and respectful message, don’t even get their messages read, or read and unanswered cos they weren’t exciting enough, or at best, it is read and a monotonous one-line response follows. We all know that what people are here for, is how good you look and the pics is the often the only thing that gets majority of the women to be responsive. So if you want to be successful on here as a man, work on yourself - body, mind and spirit and send your cheeky one-liners. Just don’t make it creepy that’s all. " I can't be the only one to wonder if that was posted with the intent of irony. | |||
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"Why bother reading profiles, most women don't bother replying! Read it if they actually reply. If women are on here they're desperate for cock RIGHT NOW. Profile text is irrelevant. " Exactly. There’s no need to pretend that majority of women are interested in the men who send nice messages, cos that’s not the case. A lot of men complain that they put in the effort and get nothing, so why should we continue to ask them to do so. The only thing I can think of is that women and couples get off on the attention, which is even better than the meets. | |||
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"Do the guys who haven't read a profile still feel it as rejection when they don't get a reply? There's no point in me replaying to someone who clearly doesnt know what I'm looking for but are still messaging, thinking its you. Had they read the profile they know what and where I meet and who I reply too. " If it's clear a bio is ignored, maybe it's not rejection, but a mutual show of respect to equally ignore. (Shrugs) | |||
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"I compare mens' experiences on here to the jobseeker who applies for hundreds of jobs only to receive a one line rejection or radio silence. I've had my fair share of nasty messages but it must be pretty soul destroying when you start off with the best of intentions only to receive knock back after knock back." Is actually the correct answer. as a newbie single male, it's pretty odd to do everything right, get rejected (which is fine) and then somehow still be in the wrong all the time I now just think its who ever has ignored my message, loss and move on. Funny story though i did messaged a couple yesterday, after reading their profile, took the time to write a nice message etc etc didn't get a reply. Then saw later they got stood up by a guy who had a blank profile! Couldn't make it up. | |||
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"I compare mens' experiences on here to the jobseeker who applies for hundreds of jobs only to receive a one line rejection or radio silence. I've had my fair share of nasty messages but it must be pretty soul destroying when you start off with the best of intentions only to receive knock back after knock back. Is actually the correct answer. as a newbie single male, it's pretty odd to do everything right, get rejected (which is fine) and then somehow still be in the wrong all the time I now just think its who ever has ignored my message, loss and move on. Funny story though i did messaged a couple yesterday, after reading their profile, took the time to write a nice message etc etc didn't get a reply. Then saw later they got stood up by a guy who had a blank profile! Couldn't make it up. " Expectations are off the scale here !! Most people here are not swingers, but like attention, most women are punching above their weight with so many guys here ! If you want to talk to a woman You ve got more chance going down to your local Tesco s and be a normal human being !!! | |||
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"I compare mens' experiences on here to the jobseeker who applies for hundreds of jobs only to receive a one line rejection or radio silence. I've had my fair share of nasty messages but it must be pretty soul destroying when you start off with the best of intentions only to receive knock back after knock back. Is actually the correct answer. as a newbie single male, it's pretty odd to do everything right, get rejected (which is fine) and then somehow still be in the wrong all the time I now just think its who ever has ignored my message, loss and move on. Funny story though i did messaged a couple yesterday, after reading their profile, took the time to write a nice message etc etc didn't get a reply. Then saw later they got stood up by a guy who had a blank profile! Couldn't make it up. " There certainly is a vicious circle with not only one category of profile to blame. Abusive, pushy messages have a reaction. Being ignored has a reaction. Making demands, ignoring effort, lack of effort and more, all have a negative result. If everyone could behave respectfully, this site could be something great. However, there are too many with higher expectations of other users than they set themselves. The comments here are an example. It certainly is not just solo men, I believe they get to play the scapegoat, at the same time, it's as difficult for everyone, not just solo men, they get to play the victim. | |||
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"Why bother reading profiles, most women don't bother replying! Read it if they actually reply. If women are on here they're desperate for cock RIGHT NOW. Profile text is irrelevant. Exactly. There’s no need to pretend that majority of women are interested in the men who send nice messages, cos that’s not the case. A lot of men complain that they put in the effort and get nothing, so why should we continue to ask them to do so. The only thing I can think of is that women and couples get off on the attention, which is even better than the meets." Ego boost to the max and no need to shave my feet! | |||
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"I use the length of a profile "bio" as a filter. If it takes 3 or more thumb flicks to get to the bottom of your profile, I'm not reading it. If I don't read your profile, I don't message you. I enjoy conversation and finding out this about someone I'm interested in over the course of said conversation. I personally think long profiles are boring, lazy and self indulgent. " That makes two of us, mate. Imagine listening to someone that you just met and vaguely interested in, going on and on and rambling about something that you have absolutely no interest in. Boring! | |||
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"Why bother reading profiles, most women don't bother replying! Read it if they actually reply. If women are on here they're desperate for cock RIGHT NOW. Profile text is irrelevant. Exactly. There’s no need to pretend that majority of women are interested in the men who send nice messages, cos that’s not the case. A lot of men complain that they put in the effort and get nothing, so why should we continue to ask them to do so. The only thing I can think of is that women and couples get off on the attention, which is even better than the meets. Ego boost to the max and no need to shave my feet! " Admit it, that’s what it’s really about for the ladies on Fab, isn’t it? The attention.. | |||
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"Why bother reading profiles, most women don't bother replying! Read it if they actually reply. If women are on here they're desperate for cock RIGHT NOW. Profile text is irrelevant. Exactly. There’s no need to pretend that majority of women are interested in the men who send nice messages, cos that’s not the case. A lot of men complain that they put in the effort and get nothing, so why should we continue to ask them to do so. The only thing I can think of is that women and couples get off on the attention, which is even better than the meets. Ego boost to the max and no need to shave my feet! Admit it, that’s what it’s really about for the ladies on Fab, isn’t it? The attention.." Hang on, yes I am interested in ‘men who send nice messages’ but also are in my area, look attractive to me and catch me on a day I’m actually looking or have time to respond! There’s no point connecting with someone in London when I live in Somerset! | |||
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"The most concerning thing for me reading these posts is men treating women as a prize to be won, rather than a human being. 'Oh, I won't put effort into a message because it doesn't reward me with what I want.' If I wanted transactional sex like that, I'd get paid for it." Why else do people send messages on Fab? To get what they want - sex. Why else does anyone do anything at all on this planet? To be rewarded with what they want. It’s the very nature of life itself. To pretend otherwise is denying the reality of why we are all on this site. Ironically enough - why would you pay to have sex? Cos you want sex. Well, paying for it isn’t the only way to get it, right.. | |||
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"Why bother reading profiles, most women don't bother replying! Read it if they actually reply. If women are on here they're desperate for cock RIGHT NOW. Profile text is irrelevant. Exactly. There’s no need to pretend that majority of women are interested in the men who send nice messages, cos that’s not the case. A lot of men complain that they put in the effort and get nothing, so why should we continue to ask them to do so. The only thing I can think of is that women and couples get off on the attention, which is even better than the meets. Ego boost to the max and no need to shave my feet! Admit it, that’s what it’s really about for the ladies on Fab, isn’t it? The attention.. Hang on, yes I am interested in ‘men who send nice messages’ but also are in my area, look attractive to me and catch me on a day I’m actually looking or have time to respond! There’s no point connecting with someone in London when I live in Somerset! " Great to hear, but I was talking about the majority of women, and not you specifically. I am sure there are exceptions. | |||
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"Why bother reading profiles, most women don't bother replying! Read it if they actually reply. If women are on here they're desperate for cock RIGHT NOW. Profile text is irrelevant. Exactly. There’s no need to pretend that majority of women are interested in the men who send nice messages, cos that’s not the case. A lot of men complain that they put in the effort and get nothing, so why should we continue to ask them to do so. The only thing I can think of is that women and couples get off on the attention, which is even better than the meets. Ego boost to the max and no need to shave my feet! Admit it, that’s what it’s really about for the ladies on Fab, isn’t it? The attention.. Hang on, yes I am interested in ‘men who send nice messages’ but also are in my area, look attractive to me and catch me on a day I’m actually looking or have time to respond! There’s no point connecting with someone in London when I live in Somerset! Great to hear, but I was talking about the majority of women, and not you specifically. I am sure there are exceptions." But it’s bound to be the same for them. Just cos you message them and you fit their type broadly doesn’t mean that they’re necessarily in the right head space to receive and respond to your message. | |||
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"I use the length of a profile "bio" as a filter. If it takes 3 or more thumb flicks to get to the bottom of your profile, I'm not reading it. If I don't read your profile, I don't message you. I enjoy conversation and finding out this about someone I'm interested in over the course of said conversation. I personally think long profiles are boring, lazy and self indulgent. That makes two of us, mate. Imagine listening to someone that you just met and vaguely interested in, going on and on and rambling about something that you have absolutely no interest in. Boring!" Or someone that doesn't know what to talk about because they haven't got a list of subjects to choose from. I have had women send me a messages demanding out of nowhere telling me I should put more on my profile so people can tell if they are interested in me. I politely suggested they could ask me anything they were interested in knowing and that I don't presume to know what every person wants to know about me...... or the can fuck off and stop being so entitled. Either works for me | |||
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"Why bother reading profiles, most women don't bother replying! Read it if they actually reply. If women are on here they're desperate for cock RIGHT NOW. Profile text is irrelevant. Exactly. There’s no need to pretend that majority of women are interested in the men who send nice messages, cos that’s not the case. A lot of men complain that they put in the effort and get nothing, so why should we continue to ask them to do so. The only thing I can think of is that women and couples get off on the attention, which is even better than the meets. Ego boost to the max and no need to shave my feet! Admit it, that’s what it’s really about for the ladies on Fab, isn’t it? The attention.. Hang on, yes I am interested in ‘men who send nice messages’ but also are in my area, look attractive to me and catch me on a day I’m actually looking or have time to respond! There’s no point connecting with someone in London when I live in Somerset! Great to hear, but I was talking about the majority of women, and not you specifically. I am sure there are exceptions. But it’s bound to be the same for them. Just cos you message them and you fit their type broadly doesn’t mean that they’re necessarily in the right head space to receive and respond to your message. " Fair enough. I am not going to go into a rabbit hole about how you know your personal experiences are bound to apply for a majority of women. | |||
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"I use the length of a profile "bio" as a filter. If it takes 3 or more thumb flicks to get to the bottom of your profile, I'm not reading it. If I don't read your profile, I don't message you. I enjoy conversation and finding out this about someone I'm interested in over the course of said conversation. I personally think long profiles are boring, lazy and self indulgent. That makes two of us, mate. Imagine listening to someone that you just met and vaguely interested in, going on and on and rambling about something that you have absolutely no interest in. Boring! Or someone that doesn't know what to talk about because they haven't got a list of subjects to choose from. I have had women send me a messages demanding out of nowhere telling me I should put more on my profile so people can tell if they are interested in me. I politely suggested they could ask me anything they were interested in knowing and that I don't presume to know what every person wants to know about me...... or the can fuck off and stop being so entitled. Either works for me" Ha! The nerve of some of these women. Bet they thought they were doing you a favour and how said it is that you didn’t take their advice. | |||
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"We've had 2 men that replied CBA to read it when asked if they had read oh profiles. Instant block lol " What's CBA? Cannot Be Ars*d? If they cannot be arsed, imagine how much they will be with your boundaries when having sex... | |||
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"I do read profiles all the time before messaging and I have a pretty clear profile myself. I try to personalise my messages as much as I can. But I would only message someone who suits what I’m looking for. " What about what they are looking for? | |||
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"I use the length of a profile "bio" as a filter. If it takes 3 or more thumb flicks to get to the bottom of your profile, I'm not reading it. If I don't read your profile, I don't message you. I enjoy conversation and finding out this about someone I'm interested in over the course of said conversation. I personally think long profiles are boring, lazy and self indulgent. That makes two of us, mate. Imagine listening to someone that you just met and vaguely interested in, going on and on and rambling about something that you have absolutely no interest in. Boring! Or someone that doesn't know what to talk about because they haven't got a list of subjects to choose from. I have had women send me a messages demanding out of nowhere telling me I should put more on my profile so people can tell if they are interested in me. I politely suggested they could ask me anything they were interested in knowing and that I don't presume to know what every person wants to know about me...... or the can fuck off and stop being so entitled. Either works for me" If it works for you then great. You've nothing to worry about and no need to be concerned about overly long profiles you might have to read, or saving valuable time by focusing on those with similar interests and dynamics. I mean it's not like there's literally thousands of single men looking to meet. It's not like those in high demand found themselves in that position because they gave others the chance to get a quick insight into what they were looking for and what they looked like via a quick look during a search. Why would anyone need to even look at a profile when all they need do is send messages to people who there's a high chance they've nothing in common with at all? What's even the point of profile text and photos? We could all just leave everything blank and play pot luck, because I'm sure everyone has all the time in the world to do that. Seriously though. If your approach works then that's all good. Ask most women and couples though and we like to have something to go on when looking at potential meets and who to contact. And if there's nothing to see.....most won't bother sending a message on the slim chance you may be wanting they're looking for. That's not entitlement. That's not them feeling in any way superior. It's just a common sense time saving exercise. One that works for the majority. As a couple who just meets single men at present we just scroll on past or block any profiles that don't interest us, so they don't clog up future searches. Sure. We might miss someone compatible doing that, but our free time is limited and we like to make our lives easier. It also works really well for the guys we meet. I mean. If you were looking to buy a Ford you'd probably want to know the age, condition, whether its a series 1 KA or vintage GT and likely want to see some pictures. You wouldn't just phone a number that said 'Ford for sale, phone for info' now would you? A | |||
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"I bet even that ^^^^^ is too long to read for some. Getting that in before someone responds .... TLDR. " I suspect my answer in a similar vein is too long too. But hey. It's another good, useful filter. A | |||
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"I use the length of a profile "bio" as a filter. If it takes 3 or more thumb flicks to get to the bottom of your profile, I'm not reading it. If I don't read your profile, I don't message you. I enjoy conversation and finding out this about someone I'm interested in over the course of said conversation. I personally think long profiles are boring, lazy and self indulgent. That makes two of us, mate. Imagine listening to someone that you just met and vaguely interested in, going on and on and rambling about something that you have absolutely no interest in. Boring! Or someone that doesn't know what to talk about because they haven't got a list of subjects to choose from. I have had women send me a messages demanding out of nowhere telling me I should put more on my profile so people can tell if they are interested in me. I politely suggested they could ask me anything they were interested in knowing and that I don't presume to know what every person wants to know about me...... or the can fuck off and stop being so entitled. Either works for me If it works for you then great. You've nothing to worry about and no need to be concerned about overly long profiles you might have to read, or saving valuable time by focusing on those with similar interests and dynamics. I mean it's not like there's literally thousands of single men looking to meet. It's not like those in high demand found themselves in that position because they gave others the chance to get a quick insight into what they were looking for and what they looked like via a quick look during a search. Why would anyone need to even look at a profile when all they need do is send messages to people who there's a high chance they've nothing in common with at all? What's even the point of profile text and photos? We could all just leave everything blank and play pot luck, because I'm sure everyone has all the time in the world to do that. Seriously though. If your approach works then that's all good. Ask most women and couples though and we like to have something to go on when looking at potential meets and who to contact. And if there's nothing to see.....most won't bother sending a message on the slim chance you may be wanting they're looking for. That's not entitlement. That's not them feeling in any way superior. It's just a common sense time saving exercise. One that works for the majority. As a couple who just meets single men at present we just scroll on past or block any profiles that don't interest us, so they don't clog up future searches. Sure. We might miss someone compatible doing that, but our free time is limited and we like to make our lives easier. It also works really well for the guys we meet. I mean. If you were looking to buy a Ford you'd probably want to know the age, condition, whether its a series 1 KA or vintage GT and likely want to see some pictures. You wouldn't just phone a number that said 'Ford for sale, phone for info' now would you? A" I suppose there is a different approach for everyone. I don't see it as advertisement. I'm not buying a car or applying for a job. High demand is debatable I guess. I am also not trying to "sell" myself. I have had a couples profile here and I am fully aware of the type of communication couples and women get. It all comes down to taste and preference. What works for me works for me and filters out what doesn't interest me. It will be the same for everyone. | |||
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"I bet even that ^^^^^ is too long to read for some. Getting that in before someone responds .... TLDR. I suspect my answer in a similar vein is too long too. But hey. It's another good, useful filter. A" In response to both, there is a difference between reading a conversational post in a forum to reading someone's selling points on their profile. To stick to the analogy of care sales and job advertisements. | |||
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"I bet even that ^^^^^ is too long to read for some. Getting that in before someone responds .... TLDR. I suspect my answer in a similar vein is too long too. But hey. It's another good, useful filter. A In response to both, there is a difference between reading a conversational post in a forum to reading someone's selling points on their profile. To stick to the analogy of care sales and job advertisements. " Reap the awards, from where effort is focused. | |||
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"Guys I'm not being funny, but how hard is it to read a profile? You want access to her body and intimate areas and you want her to go out of her way to meet you, but you can't be bothered to read her likes and dislikes? But expect pussy or replies? How successful do you think you're going to be? Honestly some of you put me off ever meeting anyone from this site the way you behave. If you're struggling to get replies- this may be the reason why!! " It's actually quite embarrassing to be a single guy on here and to be tarred with the same brush as so many as the other single guys, it's the easiest thing in the world to read someones profile and just as easy to reframe from messaging that profile if you don't match what the profile states it's looking for, it only takes a few brain cells to release that your only going to be rejected if your not what the profile is looking for | |||
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"That's funny! Couples don't make any effort either! Well couples consist of 2 people, usually a man and a woman. And while the woman is often/usually attractively turned out, often the guys look like they've made zero effort. That was the point." Dressing men for swinging (or fet events) is so much harder for men... It's so much easier for them when it come to clothed... But actual sexy underwear etc is lacking. It's all too comical... | |||
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"I do agree with what OP is saying BUT I must say it must be so demoralizing being male on here sometimes. Probably start off writing individual messages and then realize they just get deleted must of the time even if you do match the profile you're messaging so can't be arsed. " It's a vicious circle and all can feel demoralised by the cynicism so many feel. Setting out a profile to appeal, putting in the effort to be ignored. Putting in the effort to read, and send a message to appeal and being ignored. Ignoring profiles and receiving no reply, feeling ignored. This is not a one way Street, not a one profile type issue. | |||
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"Alas, it seems to be a colective issue and self-fulfilling prophecy. Too many men do not read or respect profiles too many women (and likely couples) get too many disrespectful messages too many women (and likely couples) get overwhelmed and disillusioned which leads to ignoring and deleting messages which leads to too many men assuming that there is no point in making an effort and continuing to spray and pray - thus the cycle continues." Formatting didn't work so reposting: Alas, it seems to be a colective issue and a self-fulfilling prophecy. Too many men do not read or respect profiles which leads to too many women (and likely couples) getting too many disrespectful messages, leading to too many women (and likely couples) getting overwhelmed and disillusioned which in turn leads to ignoring and deleting messages which leads to too many men assuming that there is no point in making an effort and continuing to spray and pray - thus the cycle continues ... | |||
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"I do read profiles all the time before messaging and I have a pretty clear profile myself. I try to personalise my messages as much as I can. But I would only message someone who suits what I’m looking for. What about what they are looking for?" I thought that goes without saying. Generally if the profile matches up and i think it’s a good fit for me | |||
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"I do agree with what OP is saying BUT I must say it must be so demoralizing being male on here sometimes. Probably start off writing individual messages and then realize they just get deleted must of the time even if you do match the profile you're messaging so can't be arsed. It's a vicious circle and all can feel demoralised by the cynicism so many feel. Setting out a profile to appeal, putting in the effort to be ignored. Putting in the effort to read, and send a message to appeal and being ignored. Ignoring profiles and receiving no reply, feeling ignored. This is not a one way Street, not a one profile type issue. " This thread makes me smirk, considering the amount of criticism we've faced across various forum threads over the years, for simply stating we usually reply to messages - even if a 'no thanks'. | |||
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"I do agree with what OP is saying BUT I must say it must be so demoralizing being male on here sometimes. Probably start off writing individual messages and then realize they just get deleted must of the time even if you do match the profile you're messaging so can't be arsed. It's a vicious circle and all can feel demoralised by the cynicism so many feel. Setting out a profile to appeal, putting in the effort to be ignored. Putting in the effort to read, and send a message to appeal and being ignored. Ignoring profiles and receiving no reply, feeling ignored. This is not a one way Street, not a one profile type issue. This thread makes me smirk, considering the amount of criticism we've faced across various forum threads over the years, for simply stating we usually reply to messages - even if a 'no thanks'. " You do, We do, many don't. The amount of responses thanking us for a polite and honest reply to them, they stating a response is rare, it surprises me. | |||
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"I do agree with what OP is saying BUT I must say it must be so demoralizing being male on here sometimes. Probably start off writing individual messages and then realize they just get deleted must of the time even if you do match the profile you're messaging so can't be arsed. It's a vicious circle and all can feel demoralised by the cynicism so many feel. Setting out a profile to appeal, putting in the effort to be ignored. Putting in the effort to read, and send a message to appeal and being ignored. Ignoring profiles and receiving no reply, feeling ignored. This is not a one way Street, not a one profile type issue. This thread makes me smirk, considering the amount of criticism we've faced across various forum threads over the years, for simply stating we usually reply to messages - even if a 'no thanks'. You do, We do, many don't. The amount of responses thanking us for a polite and honest reply to them, they stating a response is rare, it surprises me. " It is very rare to have a polite thanks but no thanks. I prefer that to the read messages that just sit there for weeks or months. | |||
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"Alas, it seems to be a colective issue and self-fulfilling prophecy. Too many men do not read or respect profiles too many women (and likely couples) get too many disrespectful messages too many women (and likely couples) get overwhelmed and disillusioned which leads to ignoring and deleting messages which leads to too many men assuming that there is no point in making an effort and continuing to spray and pray - thus the cycle continues. Formatting didn't work so reposting: Alas, it seems to be a colective issue and a self-fulfilling prophecy. Too many men do not read or respect profiles which leads to too many women (and likely couples) getting too many disrespectful messages, leading to too many women (and likely couples) getting overwhelmed and disillusioned which in turn leads to ignoring and deleting messages which leads to too many men assuming that there is no point in making an effort and continuing to spray and pray - thus the cycle continues ..." Nail on the head right there | |||
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"So glad we are not interested in single guys, seems a nightmare " We are. It's pretty much all we look for. The one bit of advice I've always given in the last 15 years, as someone who joined as a single guy and was lucky enough to marry someone he met on here is this. Put 50 times more effort into your profile than you do a message. And that means both the text and the pictures. It's no good creating a bespoke, carefully constructed message that's individually tailored to someone's profile based on what they've said they're looking for and the loose parameters that they can choose to show as seeking (age, gender, sexuality etc), if your own profile sucks. The best message in the history of all messages ever sent on Fab will go unread if (like many women and couples do) the recipient goes to look at you before opening the message and your profile is bland, uninteresting, contains nothing but cock focused imagery and tells them nothing about you and what you're looking for. All that time spent creating the message will be wasted if you've not put the time in on the profile. Despite common belief many women and couples do make first contact. Just not with bland/blank profiles. They aim for those there's a far greater chance they're interested in and attracted to. If guys want to be on the receiving end of messages rather than just sending them, then there's an easy way to boost the chances of that happening. A | |||
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