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"Someone who has never really liked sex is very unlikely to want to swing It might be an idea to have a conversation about rekindling your sex life with each other and if that's successful bring up the idea of swinging. Good luck to you both " This totally ,if your relationship/ sex lfe isn't great to start with ,swinging won't help.. Is there a way you can try and improve it between yourselves. | |||
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"Someone who has never really liked sex is very unlikely to want to swing It might be an idea to have a conversation about rekindling your sex life with each other and if that's successful bring up the idea of swinging. Good luck to you both This totally ,if your relationship/ sex lfe isn't great to start with ,swinging won't help.. Is there a way you can try and improve it between yourselves." Exactly this first step | |||
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"I think you need to get to the root of why your sex life has been so poor over the years OP before you could even consider mentioning swinging to your wife. Surely you must realise there’s not a cat in hells chance of her embracing your idea? What if she did though? Have you considered how you’d feel if you watched your wife enjoying sex with men in a way she never had with you? Or is it that you think as a couple you’d stand more chance of being successful on here? Whatever the reasons you should concentrate on putting things right between you and your wife before even considering introducing others into the mix." agreed! | |||
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"Hi how do I bring up the idea of swinging with the wife? My wife has gone off sex and never really like to from day one, though she warm up to it after we got married but just got worse, now none for 4 years.I’ve been with her for 23 years two kids. How do you bring the subject up ? Body confidence and my small cock has helped and wondered if she knew other men and women found her attractive and have some hot sex with a over 6” cock she might enjoy in after all? . " First of all your cock size isn’t the problem honey you sound healthy and average to me. Can you open the conversation by discussing fantasies with her? Or mention a friend of yours that swings and ask her what she thinks of the idea? I guess I think your approach should be indirect maybe | |||
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"Hi how do I bring up the idea of swinging with the wife? My wife has gone off sex and never really like to from day one, though she warm up to it after we got married but just got worse, now none for 4 years.I’ve been with her for 23 years two kids. How do you bring the subject up ? Body confidence and my small cock has helped and wondered if she knew other men and women found her attractive and have some hot sex with a over 6” cock she might enjoy in after all? . " Also if she doesn’t know that you are on here and tell her it will go down like a lead balloon | |||
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"BTW, if she find out you are on here then I'd suggest your problems may well get a whole lot worst. Maybe you need to look at your relationship as a whole. " I'd suspect two new marital terms: Decree Nisi and Decree Absolute | |||
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"Thanks all for the comments Yes going about it a bit wrong but just want her to be happy, I love sex and miss it. We started talking and yes has admitted some mental health problems so working on that. So it a start….. " If your wife is suffering from a mental health issue then suggesting either of you have sex with other people is only going to harm her even more. I'd suggest you get off this site and focus on your wife. | |||
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"Hi how do I bring up the idea of swinging with the wife? My wife has gone off sex and never really like to from day one, though she warm up to it after we got married but just got worse, now none for 4 years.I’ve been with her for 23 years two kids. How do you bring the subject up ? Body confidence and my small cock has helped and wondered if she knew other men and women found her attractive and have some hot sex with a over 6” cock she might enjoy in after all? I don’t think it’s something you can just come out with! You need to consider how well do you know your wife. What I mean by that what are her views in general? Is she liberal in her views overall. If yes then this is a good start. Communication is key! I raised the subject by making reference to something I read in the local rag. I then gauged her reaction which was positive so I then said how about going to check a club out ? The rest is history. . " | |||
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"Don't try drink !! Yes something might happen then when sober you to deal with aftermath. Chocolate flowers. Nice meal and give her your time listen to what she says when relaxed . To just come out suggest swinging make most people run. " From a woman's point of view having a partner give you chocolates and flowers then ask you me do something sexual would make me say no double quick Treat me as an equal who doesn't need softening up or persuaded to join you in an adventure that's to our mutual benefit. Give flowers and chocolates for no reason. | |||
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"Maybe she simply doesn't like having sex with you.. have you considered that?" Yes If she said that I could deal with it From divorce or being a cuck or just no sex till I’m dead | |||
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"Maybe she simply doesn't like having sex with you.. have you considered that? Yes If she said that I could deal with it From divorce or being a cuck or just no sex till I’m dead" So do you think that cheating on her is acceptable? | |||
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"Maybe she simply doesn't like having sex with you.. have you considered that? Yes If she said that I could deal with it From divorce or being a cuck or just no sex till I’m dead So do you think that cheating on her is acceptable?" Not actually cheated on her yet just Micro cheated ok a bit worse that watching porn but I enjoy chatting to people. I’m I not allowed to have some sexual outlet? I’m just Trying to think of ways to unlock my wife full potential of the joys of sex.So we can enjoy together. | |||
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"Don't try drink !! Yes something might happen then when sober you to deal with aftermath. Chocolate flowers. Nice meal and give her your time listen to what she says when relaxed . To just come out suggest swinging make most people run. From a woman's point of view having a partner give you chocolates and flowers then ask you me do something sexual would make me say no double quick Treat me as an equal who doesn't need softening up or persuaded to join you in an adventure that's to our mutual benefit. Give flowers and chocolates for no reason. " I did not mean give choc flowers then ask I mean try have new more caring time. Then in time sex life might come back only then could you try push boundies and never use drink. Been nice doing house work for her could pay in long run best | |||
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"Don't try drink !! Yes something might happen then when sober you to deal with aftermath. Chocolate flowers. Nice meal and give her your time listen to what she says when relaxed . To just come out suggest swinging make most people run. From a woman's point of view having a partner give you chocolates and flowers then ask you me do something sexual would make me say no double quick Treat me as an equal who doesn't need softening up or persuaded to join you in an adventure that's to our mutual benefit. Give flowers and chocolates for no reason. I did not mean give choc flowers then ask I mean try have new more caring time. Then in time sex life might come back only then could you try push boundies and never use drink. Been nice doing house work for her could pay in long run best" I think moving away from doing nice things in order to get more sex might be the way forward. I know you probably didn't realise you were writing it but 'doing house work 'for her'' | |||
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"Maybe she simply doesn't like having sex with you.. have you considered that? Yes If she said that I could deal with it From divorce or being a cuck or just no sex till I’m dead So do you think that cheating on her is acceptable? Not actually cheated on her yet just Micro cheated ok a bit worse that watching porn but I enjoy chatting to people. I’m I not allowed to have some sexual outlet? I’m just Trying to think of ways to unlock my wife full potential of the joys of sex.So we can enjoy together. " Micro cheated ! That's a new one on me You're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Sex is clearly more important to you than your wife and that's a big problem. Is it possible to have a no holds barred conversation with her? I know it isn't easy but if you start by saying that you love her dearly and want both of you to have a great relationship would she engage? | |||
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"Maybe she simply doesn't like having sex with you.. have you considered that? Yes If she said that I could deal with it From divorce or being a cuck or just no sex till I’m dead So do you think that cheating on her is acceptable? Not actually cheated on her yet just Micro cheated ok a bit worse that watching porn but I enjoy chatting to people. I’m I not allowed to have some sexual outlet? I’m just Trying to think of ways to unlock my wife full potential of the joys of sex.So we can enjoy together. " OK, so what do you think your wife's reaction will be when she finds out you are on here trying to meet people for sex? | |||
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"Maybe she simply doesn't like having sex with you.. have you considered that? Yes If she said that I could deal with it From divorce or being a cuck or just no sex till I’m dead So do you think that cheating on her is acceptable? Not actually cheated on her yet just Micro cheated ok a bit worse that watching porn but I enjoy chatting to people. I’m I not allowed to have some sexual outlet? I’m just Trying to think of ways to unlock my wife full potential of the joys of sex.So we can enjoy together. OK, so what do you think your wife's reaction will be when she finds out you are on here trying to meet people for sex?" The same if she caught me watching porn I’m looking not touching and I enjoy the social side of the Swinger lifestyle.every one I’ve talked to is really nice. And enjoy chatting with like minded people about my favourite subject. | |||
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"Maybe she simply doesn't like having sex with you.. have you considered that? Yes If she said that I could deal with it From divorce or being a cuck or just no sex till I’m dead So do you think that cheating on her is acceptable? Not actually cheated on her yet just Micro cheated ok a bit worse that watching porn but I enjoy chatting to people. I’m I not allowed to have some sexual outlet? I’m just Trying to think of ways to unlock my wife full potential of the joys of sex.So we can enjoy together. OK, so what do you think your wife's reaction will be when she finds out you are on here trying to meet people for sex? The same if she caught me watching porn I’m looking not touching and I enjoy the social side of the Swinger lifestyle.every one I’ve talked to is really nice. And enjoy chatting with like minded people about my favourite subject. " So that sounds like she is aware that you are on here and are looking to meet women for sex? | |||
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"Hi how do I bring up the idea of swinging with the wife? My wife has gone off sex and never really like to from day one, though she warm up to it after we got married but just got worse, now none for 4 years.I’ve been with her for 23 years two kids. How do you bring the subject up ? Body confidence and my small cock has helped and wondered if she knew other men and women found her attractive and have some hot sex with a over 6” cock she might enjoy in after all? . " Show her my profile and pics. She might show some interest | |||
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"Maybe she simply doesn't like having sex with you.. have you considered that? Yes If she said that I could deal with it From divorce or being a cuck or just no sex till I’m dead So do you think that cheating on her is acceptable? Not actually cheated on her yet just Micro cheated ok a bit worse that watching porn but I enjoy chatting to people. I’m I not allowed to have some sexual outlet? I’m just Trying to think of ways to unlock my wife full potential of the joys of sex.So we can enjoy together. OK, so what do you think your wife's reaction will be when she finds out you are on here trying to meet people for sex? The same if she caught me watching porn I’m looking not touching and I enjoy the social side of the Swinger lifestyle.every one I’ve talked to is really nice. And enjoy chatting with like minded people about my favourite subject. " But watching is totally different from actually chatting with people who are on a swingers site looking for a bit of action it would come under cheating | |||
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"OP, I think you're digging a deeper and deeper hole for yourself. My advice would be to abandon this thread, at least temporarily give up Fab and arrange a meeting for you, your wife and a marriage guidance counselor. " | |||
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"OP would you tell her she's a crap shag and you want to have sex with someone else? Because that is the way she will hear it if you try and suggest swinging. Swinging is an enhancement to a good sex life not a way to repair one that is lacking." This one million percent, everyone's different but I can't see how swinging for any couple would work if they don't have a very healthy sex life already and also complete trust in each other, you 2 don't have sex and you're on here trying to cheat so you clearly have neither. Come off Fab, concentrate on your wife, listen to her and make her feel special again, get your sex life back on track and any other issues in your relationship then who knows what the future might bring. | |||
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"What if the person who doesn't want/ can't have sex has absolutely no intention of ever being sexual again? Or a medical condition prevents it? " Then they have to have an open, honest conversation about it. What this guy is going is cheating | |||
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"Maybe she simply doesn't like having sex with you.. have you considered that? Yes If she said that I could deal with it From divorce or being a cuck or just no sex till I’m dead So do you think that cheating on her is acceptable? Not actually cheated on her yet just Micro cheated ok a bit worse that watching porn but I enjoy chatting to people. I’m I not allowed to have some sexual outlet? I’m just Trying to think of ways to unlock my wife full potential of the joys of sex.So we can enjoy together. OK, so what do you think your wife's reaction will be when she finds out you are on here trying to meet people for sex? The same if she caught me watching porn I’m looking not touching and I enjoy the social side of the Swinger lifestyle.every one I’ve talked to is really nice. And enjoy chatting with like minded people about my favourite subject. " Not "micro-cheated", you have cheated, don't try and play it down or justify it to yourself. Porn etc is "in your head" and you are allowed to do anything you want inside your head. Involving others is beyond that. Accept that as the truth and you can maybe sort this, but the first step after that is to have an open and honest conversation with your wife that totally has the potential to end in divorce, which I REALLY hope isn't the case. Do you really want to be a swinger, or do you just want a sex life? Does it excite you to think of the woman who denies you sex having sex with others, maybe with you watching, or are you just at a point where you don't care what she does as long as you are getting some somewhere? | |||
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"What if the person who doesn't want/ can't have sex has absolutely no intention of ever being sexual again? Or a medical condition prevents it? Then they have to have an open, honest conversation about it. What this guy is going is cheating" If only life was as straightforward | |||
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"What if the person who doesn't want/ can't have sex has absolutely no intention of ever being sexual again? Or a medical condition prevents it? Then they have to have an open, honest conversation about it. What this guy is going is cheating If only life was as straightforward " It's as straightforward as you want it to be. | |||
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"Maybe she simply doesn't like having sex with you.. have you considered that? Yes If she said that I could deal with it From divorce or being a cuck or just no sex till I’m dead So do you think that cheating on her is acceptable? Not actually cheated on her yet just Micro cheated ok a bit worse that watching porn but I enjoy chatting to people. I’m I not allowed to have some sexual outlet? I’m just Trying to think of ways to unlock my wife full potential of the joys of sex.So we can enjoy together. OK, so what do you think your wife's reaction will be when she finds out you are on here trying to meet people for sex? The same if she caught me watching porn I’m looking not touching and I enjoy the social side of the Swinger lifestyle.every one I’ve talked to is really nice. And enjoy chatting with like minded people about my favourite subject. Not "micro-cheated", you have cheated, don't try and play it down or justify it to yourself. Porn etc is "in your head" and you are allowed to do anything you want inside your head. Involving others is beyond that. Accept that as the truth and you can maybe sort this, but the first step after that is to have an open and honest conversation with your wife that totally has the potential to end in divorce, which I REALLY hope isn't the case. Do you really want to be a swinger, or do you just want a sex life? Does it excite you to think of the woman who denies you sex having sex with others, maybe with you watching, or are you just at a point where you don't care what she does as long as you are getting some somewhere?" Obviously I do care Sex is a wonderful thing that bonds couples together So I need to fix this but as my wife as pushed me away. Some years ago so I started looking and thinking of ways to rekindle our passion for life obviously a divorce which would be the obvious thing to do is an option, but still want to be together and experience all the life can give us with only 30 odd years left on this earth As this is a free site with good people on I’m just asking the question of should I try and save it or walk away Judge me how you like I just trying to explore the possibilities of and different life style | |||
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"I’m just asking the question of should I try and save it or walk away Judge me how you like I just trying to explore the possibilities of and different life style" First of all I was not judging you, I was trying to be open and honest with you from MY point of view, but obviously you don't know where I am coming from. I am coming from the opposite side fo things, my wife and I still had an OK sex life - better than many people as I understand it. She suggested opening up the relationship, which I eventually agreed to. This is what brought the marriage to an end, it during its time, brought up so many questions and situations that a mono relationship just never face. In the end, leaving her was the best thing that happened to me, I won't say us as I don't know for her, but she HAS remarried so... It seems you are staying because you would rather be miserable with someone than without someone. The thing is, that misery ytou feel now colours you in oh so many ways, and people can tell. It makes you unattractive and people not want to be around you. I say you but it applies to everyone. The one other thing I would add is that no, cheating is not acceptable, think of how she would feel if she finds out you had been with someone else, do you want her to feel that way. If the answer to that is yes, I dont care or I dont know then you have already checked out of the relationship. Sit her down, dont say "we need to talk" which are the scariest words in the dictionary. Tell her what is missing from your life, and it is OK to want sex in it, its natural, it doesn't make you a perv or a degenerate. Ask her WHY she rejects it, see if there is a way to fix this with her. Don't make decisions based on that one talk, have others. As others have said, seek help and counselling, iy is not guaranteed to get you back together - it was counselling that showed me that I needed to get out of my marriage but it will help you both realise where you are at. | |||
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"Hi how do I bring up the idea of swinging with the wife? My wife has gone off sex and never really like to from day one, though she warm up to it after we got married but just got worse, now none for 4 years.I’ve been with her for 23 years two kids. How do you bring the subject up ? Body confidence and my small cock has helped and wondered if she knew other men and women found her attractive and have some hot sex with a over 6” cock she might enjoy in after all? . not another one, if your wife doesn't want to swing you shouldn't be on here, obviously you have issues at home and would be detrimental to you meeting people, sort your home life out first, swinging isn't a place for affairs " | |||
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