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"Morning ![]() I know it won't really help ease the fears but if she us in such a role she should know about GDPR. Ask whatever club about it and see what their policy is. I'm not sure if any keep copies or if they just want to glance at it (never been to a club). | |||
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"Thanks do appreciate the thoughts, I think the main concern is regarding for example a data hack or breach once, one it’s out there then it’s out there. It’s not a huge concern for me but a real issue for her. " Best thing would be to call whatever club you want to visit and seek reassurance. Data breaches I would imagine is fairly rare, appreciate they do probably happen though | |||
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"Thanks do appreciate the thoughts, I think the main concern is regarding for example a data hack or breach once, one it’s out there then it’s out there. It’s not a huge concern for me but a real issue for her. " Is she not concerned at all about bumping into someone she knows? I'd have thought that's perhaps a bigger risk | |||
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"The Attic in Derby. No membership required, pay at the door and walk in." Absolutely - plus it's a really big place with lots of playrooms. | |||
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"Greenhouse on Saturday night in Newport is a bi-night and they don’t take down any details at all. Friendly discreet crowd in my experience." That's interesting as the Luton one now requires you to fill out a form on mixed bi day and details are on their system. | |||
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"Indeed, we get the reasoning behind it and why for some it’s a massive pro not a con. The issue is that in some organisations/services this is not just an “embarrassing” issue but a disciplinary one for which you could lose a hard worked for career. Sure, data breaches are unlikely but for some people the concern about it is significant. All the replies are appreciated." I think the obvious step would be to contact the club in question and ask how they protect members data? I do not believe that anyone is more likely to be concerned about data safety than the owner of a swingers club. Any data leak would likely mean the immediate end of their business, it’s an enormous risk and one that will have been taken into account. | |||
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"Indeed, we get the reasoning behind it and why for some it’s a massive pro not a con. The issue is that in some organisations/services this is not just an “embarrassing” issue but a disciplinary one for which you could lose a hard worked for career. Sure, data breaches are unlikely but for some people the concern about it is significant. All the replies are appreciated." Out of interest which organisations or services would view visiting swinging clubs as a disciplinary issue? I can’t see any such organisation making that stand up in an employment tribunal. Even if you work for the security services, they must realise that having such policies would make staff more, not less prone to a word beginning with black the site won’t let me use, so counter productive. | |||
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"Indeed, we get the reasoning behind it and why for some it’s a massive pro not a con. The issue is that in some organisations/services this is not just an “embarrassing” issue but a disciplinary one for which you could lose a hard worked for career. Sure, data breaches are unlikely but for some people the concern about it is significant. All the replies are appreciated. Out of interest which organisations or services would view visiting swinging clubs as a disciplinary issue? I can’t see any such organisation making that stand up in an employment tribunal. Even if you work for the security services, they must realise that having such policies would make staff more, not less prone to a word beginning with black the site won’t let me use, so counter productive. " I can’t see a way to answer that without outing which ones we might work for. All I can say is that I’m well aware of atleast two who would view such activities as disciplinary ones regardless. I think it’s all well and good to know that it wouldn’t stand up at a later disciplinary/tribunal but by that point your career is destroyed once they have pushed it that far. | |||
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"Indeed, we get the reasoning behind it and why for some it’s a massive pro not a con. The issue is that in some organisations/services this is not just an “embarrassing” issue but a disciplinary one for which you could lose a hard worked for career. Sure, data breaches are unlikely but for some people the concern about it is significant. All the replies are appreciated. Out of interest which organisations or services would view visiting swinging clubs as a disciplinary issue? I can’t see any such organisation making that stand up in an employment tribunal. Even if you work for the security services, they must realise that having such policies would make staff more, not less prone to a word beginning with black the site won’t let me use, so counter productive. " I must admit I cant think of any either, certainly I know of people whose jobs require enhanced background checks who attend clubs. One of our human rights isvtgevrightbto a private life, and while I understand the need for discretion online no employer has the power to stop people attending a swinging club | |||
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"Indeed, we get the reasoning behind it and why for some it’s a massive pro not a con. The issue is that in some organisations/services this is not just an “embarrassing” issue but a disciplinary one for which you could lose a hard worked for career. Sure, data breaches are unlikely but for some people the concern about it is significant. All the replies are appreciated. Out of interest which organisations or services would view visiting swinging clubs as a disciplinary issue? I can’t see any such organisation making that stand up in an employment tribunal. Even if you work for the security services, they must realise that having such policies would make staff more, not less prone to a word beginning with black the site won’t let me use, so counter productive. I must admit I cant think of any either, certainly I know of people whose jobs require enhanced background checks who attend clubs. One of our human rights isvtgevrightbto a private life, and while I understand the need for discretion online no employer has the power to stop people attending a swinging club" I used to work in financial services a while back and in the particular role I had there was a 'reputational disrepute' clause. Not specifically linked to swinging, just any behaviour (drink/substance abuse, behaviour in public, publicly visible online activity) that could negatively reflect on the company. Any disciplinary action would be situationally specific but swinging could easily have fallen into that category. It's not uncommon in certain private sector careers. A | |||
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"Indeed, we get the reasoning behind it and why for some it’s a massive pro not a con. The issue is that in some organisations/services this is not just an “embarrassing” issue but a disciplinary one for which you could lose a hard worked for career. Sure, data breaches are unlikely but for some people the concern about it is significant. All the replies are appreciated. Out of interest which organisations or services would view visiting swinging clubs as a disciplinary issue? I can’t see any such organisation making that stand up in an employment tribunal. Even if you work for the security services, they must realise that having such policies would make staff more, not less prone to a word beginning with black the site won’t let me use, so counter productive. I must admit I cant think of any either, certainly I know of people whose jobs require enhanced background checks who attend clubs. One of our human rights isvtgevrightbto a private life, and while I understand the need for discretion online no employer has the power to stop people attending a swinging club" No, but they do have the power to terminate employment or professional registration, and to the best of my knowledge this has not been tested in court yet. If it doesn’t bother you, fair enough, but it’s a reasonable concern for other people to have. | |||
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"Indeed, we get the reasoning behind it and why for some it’s a massive pro not a con. The issue is that in some organisations/services this is not just an “embarrassing” issue but a disciplinary one for which you could lose a hard worked for career. Sure, data breaches are unlikely but for some people the concern about it is significant. All the replies are appreciated. Out of interest which organisations or services would view visiting swinging clubs as a disciplinary issue? I can’t see any such organisation making that stand up in an employment tribunal. Even if you work for the security services, they must realise that having such policies would make staff more, not less prone to a word beginning with black the site won’t let me use, so counter productive. I must admit I cant think of any either, certainly I know of people whose jobs require enhanced background checks who attend clubs. One of our human rights isvtgevrightbto a private life, and while I understand the need for discretion online no employer has the power to stop people attending a swinging club I used to work in financial services a while back and in the particular role I had there was a 'reputational disrepute' clause. Not specifically linked to swinging, just any behaviour (drink/substance abuse, behaviour in public, publicly visible online activity) that could negatively reflect on the company. Any disciplinary action would be situationally specific but swinging could easily have fallen into that category. It's not uncommon in certain private sector careers. A" Think this argument is much over hyped. It's almost like sacking someone because of their sexuality. The world has moved on. | |||
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"Indeed, we get the reasoning behind it and why for some it’s a massive pro not a con. The issue is that in some organisations/services this is not just an “embarrassing” issue but a disciplinary one for which you could lose a hard worked for career. Sure, data breaches are unlikely but for some people the concern about it is significant. All the replies are appreciated. Out of interest which organisations or services would view visiting swinging clubs as a disciplinary issue? I can’t see any such organisation making that stand up in an employment tribunal. Even if you work for the security services, they must realise that having such policies would make staff more, not less prone to a word beginning with black the site won’t let me use, so counter productive. I must admit I cant think of any either, certainly I know of people whose jobs require enhanced background checks who attend clubs. One of our human rights isvtgevrightbto a private life, and while I understand the need for discretion online no employer has the power to stop people attending a swinging club I used to work in financial services a while back and in the particular role I had there was a 'reputational disrepute' clause. Not specifically linked to swinging, just any behaviour (drink/substance abuse, behaviour in public, publicly visible online activity) that could negatively reflect on the company. Any disciplinary action would be situationally specific but swinging could easily have fallen into that category. It's not uncommon in certain private sector careers. A Think this argument is much over hyped. It's almost like sacking someone because of their sexuality. The world has moved on." The world has moved on but not some antiquated professions or organisations. I know someone who was fired for posting on social media that he had a bad day at work. Like come on....is he not allowed to have a bad day at work? Is every day we go to work all sunshine and roses. That's why I don't add work colleagues to my social media. | |||
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"Indeed, we get the reasoning behind it and why for some it’s a massive pro not a con. The issue is that in some organisations/services this is not just an “embarrassing” issue but a disciplinary one for which you could lose a hard worked for career. Sure, data breaches are unlikely but for some people the concern about it is significant. All the replies are appreciated. Out of interest which organisations or services would view visiting swinging clubs as a disciplinary issue? I can’t see any such organisation making that stand up in an employment tribunal. Even if you work for the security services, they must realise that having such policies would make staff more, not less prone to a word beginning with black the site won’t let me use, so counter productive. I must admit I cant think of any either, certainly I know of people whose jobs require enhanced background checks who attend clubs. One of our human rights isvtgevrightbto a private life, and while I understand the need for discretion online no employer has the power to stop people attending a swinging club I used to work in financial services a while back and in the particular role I had there was a 'reputational disrepute' clause. Not specifically linked to swinging, just any behaviour (drink/substance abuse, behaviour in public, publicly visible online activity) that could negatively reflect on the company. Any disciplinary action would be situationally specific but swinging could easily have fallen into that category. It's not uncommon in certain private sector careers. A Think this argument is much over hyped. It's almost like sacking someone because of their sexuality. The world has moved on. The world has moved on but not some antiquated professions or organisations. I know someone who was fired for posting on social media that he had a bad day at work. Like come on....is he not allowed to have a bad day at work? Is every day we go to work all sunshine and roses. That's why I don't add work colleagues to my social media. " Don't know what they posted. But clearly if someone says something 'bad' about an employer that's one thing. But your boss sacking you because they discovered you went to a swinging social, say, is something else. I wouldn't have thought people put they've gone swinging on a social media site. | |||
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"Indeed, we get the reasoning behind it and why for some it’s a massive pro not a con. The issue is that in some organisations/services this is not just an “embarrassing” issue but a disciplinary one for which you could lose a hard worked for career. Sure, data breaches are unlikely but for some people the concern about it is significant. All the replies are appreciated. Out of interest which organisations or services would view visiting swinging clubs as a disciplinary issue? I can’t see any such organisation making that stand up in an employment tribunal. Even if you work for the security services, they must realise that having such policies would make staff more, not less prone to a word beginning with black the site won’t let me use, so counter productive. I must admit I cant think of any either, certainly I know of people whose jobs require enhanced background checks who attend clubs. One of our human rights isvtgevrightbto a private life, and while I understand the need for discretion online no employer has the power to stop people attending a swinging club I used to work in financial services a while back and in the particular role I had there was a 'reputational disrepute' clause. Not specifically linked to swinging, just any behaviour (drink/substance abuse, behaviour in public, publicly visible online activity) that could negatively reflect on the company. Any disciplinary action would be situationally specific but swinging could easily have fallen into that category. It's not uncommon in certain private sector careers. A Think this argument is much over hyped. It's almost like sacking someone because of their sexuality. The world has moved on. The world has moved on but not some antiquated professions or organisations. I know someone who was fired for posting on social media that he had a bad day at work. Like come on....is he not allowed to have a bad day at work? Is every day we go to work all sunshine and roses. That's why I don't add work colleagues to my social media. " Yep. I worked for them.for over a decade. In that time I saw people disciplined and dismissed for everything from getting pissed at a wedding and fighting (video posted to social media), to comments they made online on various subjects. In 2010 I was called in to see my boss as someone had outed me to the company as a swinger who helped host at the local club. I was able to deny all knowledge because I'd been careful. There were no face photos of me on display on my profile, no distinguishing features, the name used was different, the age was different and the location was vague. They simply couldn't prove it was actually me. If they had've been able to I'd have been out, pretty much guaranteed. I've never been worried about the whole ID at clubs issue. I'm still amazed that some clubs don't require it for safety reasons as well as licensing ones, as I know so LA's require it particularly since covid. Not sure I'd be happy to go to a club where anyone could get in using a fake identity and the club had no record of attendees following an incident such as an assault, other crime or a fire. Given most will have limited CCTV for privacy purposes it's important to have some kind of record of who's in the building. A | |||
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"Naomilatte already mentioned the Attic in Derby. No membership, no card payments, no ID check. If you are lucky enough to look under 21 you may be asked for proof of age, but nothing is retained. Pop in during a daytime for a tour then decide if you want to pop the full cherry on a party night. " Thanks for the info .would be interested in a daytime visit but would never go on a party nite . | |||
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"Naomilatte already mentioned the Attic in Derby. No membership, no card payments, no ID check. If you are lucky enough to look under 21 you may be asked for proof of age, but nothing is retained. Pop in during a daytime for a tour then decide if you want to pop the full cherry on a party night. Thanks for the info .would be interested in a daytime visit but would never go on a party nite ." You really should, you may even bump into us ![]() | |||
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