FabSwingers.com forum: Stag & Vixen vs Cuckold?

By *obtribute OP Man
over a year ago

Somerset

Been doing a little research on cuckoldry and discovered 'stag & vixen' which is a new discovery. Further reading and i think i'm more into stag and vixen. I love the thought of my lady being fulfilled, but i'm not into being put down. Started to look into this after our first club visit last month. Any thoughts on this subject?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Been doing a little research on cuckoldry and discovered 'stag & vixen' which is a new discovery. Further reading and i think i'm more into stag and vixen. I love the thought of my lady being fulfilled, but i'm not into being put down. Started to look into this after our first club visit last month. Any thoughts on this subject?"

We’re stag and vixen but in my opinion it is nothing like cuckoldry. The only similarity for us is that Mrs enjoys others.

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By *r SensualMan
over a year ago

London

It seems to be a common dynamic amongst couples I’ve found, definitely quite fun I must say as the 3rd male involved

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By *eiaorganaWoman
over a year ago

Dundee

We're also stag and vixen, G loves watching me play or receiving videos & pics whilst at work. We toyed with the cuckold thing but decided it's not for us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having had meets with couples in the past, I have to say I prefer stag and vixen as opposed to cuckold.

So much more fun when the mr decides to join too, however I know there will be those who feel differently

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By *rad670Man
over a year ago

South Lakes

Having met with a few couples as it's my preference the stag and vixen scenario is much more ecomfortable and seems more common, I'm not sure I would enjoy cuck if the object was to humiliate the Mr. I like the thought he will join in if he feels like it and just watch or film if not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More into cuckolding if I had to choose as I find it more daring, exciting and taboo and erotic , but certainly enjoy the stag vixen idea. The only thing that would put me off is just being a number with the hotwife having lots of others. I much prefer the idea of establishing more of a regular relationship and cuckolding is far more than just sex which Is why it appeals to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't think cuckold is necessarily about humiliation of the husband. If the husbabd cuck desires this then yes but it can be more a case of the cuck husband getting turned on by the psychology of denial. This is a very powerful driver and doesn't necessarily mean humiliation at all. Cuckoldry is far more psychological which is a big pull for me as I really love that kind of thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We’re stag and vixen but in my opinion it is nothing like cuckoldry. The only similarity for us is that Mrs enjoys others."

I agree. The two are totally different.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We’re stag and vixen but in my opinion it is nothing like cuckoldry. The only similarity for us is that Mrs enjoys others.

I agree. The two are totally different. "

This is where the problem with meeting comes into it. Some people assume as a stag that I am a cuck. They usually get a stern telling off and blocked

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By *omRachCouple
over a year ago

Wirral

"I don't think cuckold is necessarily about humiliation of the husband. If the husbabd cuck desires this then yes but it can be more a case of the cuck husband getting turned on by the psychology of denial. This is a very powerful driver and doesn't necessarily mean humiliation at all. Cuckoldry is far more psychological which is a big pull for me as I really love that kind of thing "

Totally agree with your denial comment. As a cuckold hubby myself knowing that (for a certain period of time) my wife 'physically' belongs to someone else and not me is what arouses and excites me. I may be in that room with her - watching her - but I have no access to her can cause a whole range of mixed emotions flying at me thick and fast and those emotions are (for me) what makes the experience so intense.

We have had MFM scenarios with a friend of mine in the past but being cuckolded is a totally new experience altogether.

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By *w_cuckCouple
over a year ago

Cambridgeshire

Cuckold is the way to go in my opinion.

Love my wife telling me to do the ironing while she takes a guy up stairs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can someone explain what a stag/vixen situation is please?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can someone explain what a stag/vixen situation is please? "

Stolen from another site

A Stag is a dominant man who encourages his female partner to have sex with others, either in his presence, or on her own. With Stag/vixen there is little similarity to cuckholding, where the man is submissive and often subjected to taunting and humiliation from his dominant female partner while, or after, she has sex with another man.

A vixen is the submissive woman who is having extramarital sex with her dominant partner's support.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can someone explain what a stag/vixen situation is please? "

Stag and vixen

Both the male and female play and 1 or both can be dom to a point. They can play with sub males and the couple or one of them is the dominant party. Alternative the couple and single third all play together on an even keel.

The sub single male may be invited to clean up after the dominant husband / wife.

Humiliation of the husband is not part of this dynamic

The husband is most definitely always involved and this dynamic often ends with reclaim sex between the couple.

Hot wives

Hot wives meet additional male / female partners most often alone this is the major difference factor to stag and vixen. The hot wife often take videos and pictures of the meet for hubby at home to enjoy. Sometimes hubby maybe present but mainly as a voyeur to watch his wife play with another. This dynamic doesn't involve humiliation of the husband. This dynamic also often involves ending with reclaim sex between the couple.

Cuckold

The cuck is by the nature of the term inferior to the potential bulls. The cuck may enjoy been humiliated by wife and the bull. Often they are caged and cant perform penetrate sex. Either they can get erections or the cucks penis is small. The cuck uses their mouth and hands to please the wife and often please bull if allowed and often performs clean up duties and can guide the bulls cock into his wife and similar. Reclaim penatration is not really part of this dynamic but some cuck couples do spent reclaim time together without penatration.

Now granted the above are still broad strokes with people crossing over different dynamics but hopefully it helps explain how the 3 styles are fundamentally different.

I posted this before hopefully it helps understanding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah both explanations make perfect sense. Thank you!

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By *he LsCouple
over a year ago

East Midlands

We don't really like to label ourselves, but our style of play is more Stag and Vixen as well as hotwife. We love Mrs building up a connection with a guy with messages before a meet.

When we play Mr will either watch or join in, Mrs has played alone once or twice but we find that only works if Mr is close by, like in another room so he can hear and Mrs knows he's close by. Mr likes videoing and pics of Mrs playing and the reclaim sex and talking about it for days and weeks after is the biggest turn of all.

For us, it only works if we are all equal, no Dom or Sub roles with anyone and the single we are meeting has as much input or say in what happens as Mr or Mrs. Our only request for the single person is they understand what we like and enjoy beforehand, as well as us understanding what they are after, if anyone isn't happy with the dynamic we don't play.

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By *obtribute OP Man
over a year ago

Somerset

Thank you to all who contributed to my thread. It is good to have received your thoughts, explanations and comments.

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By *aughty Couple ABCCouple
over a year ago

West Bromwich

This is us also. Hubby loves watching me play with other men, and joining in with play too.

He also loves it when I play alone and send him pics and videos (especially when he's at work

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By *aidForSharingWoman
over a year ago

Lancashire

The stag doesn't have to be dominant. He just enjoys sharing his partner with other men. Dominant men tell everyone what to do. Some men work in partnership with the other two and the dynamic is totally different. Things then just happen naturally. And it's fantastic!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The stag doesn't have to be dominant. He just enjoys sharing his partner with other men. Dominant men tell everyone what to do. Some men work in partnership with the other two and the dynamic is totally different. Things then just happen naturally. And it's fantastic!"

I think your confusing dominant with a Dom. I am dominant but would not consider myself a dom at all.

In stag and vixen I think the term dominant is used to differentiate from a cuck who is submissive.

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By *hoenix CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northallerton

I think we are stag and vixon, but leaning and evolving to full cuckoldry.

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By *otfun75Man
over a year ago

leeds

Sounds good to me nothing better xx

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Whatever people say cuckolding is humiliating for the cuck. Surely that's the whole point? He may not feel humiliated but that's how others will see it.

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By *rufflesCouple
over a year ago

manchester

Very well put, I (we) agree with you 100%. Sometimes I like to join in and sometimes I just like to watch.

One thing neither of us enjoy, is ANY form of humiliation!

In our view there is a very fine line between Stag & Vixen and Cuckold

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By *8v3nCouple
over a year ago

Coventry

Stag and vixen here as well. It is a fine line, but motivations are completely different. Many don't appreciate the difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A cuckold is simply the husband of an unfaithful wife.So hotwife,stag/vixen,submissive husband,etc are just different types of cuckold dynamic.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That what we are people mistake us for cuckolding he doesn't agree at all with the humiliation part.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What’s in a name?

We used to describe ourselves as stag and vixen but found so many men didn’t understand the distinction so now we choose not to label ourselves.

We also like to try new things outside of the labels.

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By *uckslut and MCouple
over a year ago

Poole

Stag and Vixen here.

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By *ussexcouple40Couple
over a year ago

Sussex

Our relationship evolved from one the other. But it's very hard to find bulls who fit in to our idea of cuckolding

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By *omRachCouple
over a year ago

Wirral

"We don't really like to label ourselves, but our style of play is more Stag and Vixen as well as hotwife. We love Mrs building up a connection with a guy with messages before a meet.

This

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By *onaldandjacquelineCouple
over a year ago

wirral

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By *onaldandjacquelineCouple
over a year ago

wirral

We are mainly stag vixen but enjot occasional elements of cuckold and like to mix it up now and then- variety is the spice of life!

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By *inkywife1981Couple
over a year ago

A town near you

We started out meeting other bi fem couples but eventually settled on just meeting guys.

Not stag/vixen but probably not so much cuckolding either

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

"A cuckold is simply the husband of an unfaithful wife.So hotwife,stag/vixen,submissive husband,etc are just different types of cuckold dynamic."

As has been demonstrated on this thread with a number of good explanations, that is too reductive and ignores permutations. It might be a dictionary definition of the word “cuckold” (from the word Cuckoo) but it fails to recognise the reality of what is happening in the swinger scene.

While many people dislike labels, they are actually useful at avoiding misunderstandings.

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By *aintscoupleCouple
over a year ago

st helens

"We are mainly stag vixen but enjot occasional elements of cuckold and like to mix it up now and then- variety is the spice of life!"

Sums us up perfectly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are mainly stag vixen but enjot occasional elements of cuckold and like to mix it up now and then- variety is the spice of life!"

Which elements of cuckold do you mean? (Which don't fall under stag and vixen play)

KJ x

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By *arried West End CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

We’re a stag and vixen couple. We love it and it works for us x

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By *iguyforfun50Man
over a year ago

Leeds

If i could get my wife to play for real it would be stag and vixen roles.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"A cuckold is simply the husband of an unfaithful wife.So hotwife,stag/vixen,submissive husband,etc are just different types of cuckold dynamic."

Not at all, someone shagging someone who isn't their partner, in a swinging environment, isn't being unfaithful.

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By *hoenix CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Northallerton

Mr P lables himself as an Alfa Male Cuck. A bit like stag/vixon he like to arrange and be in charge of proceedings, but also likes a bit of humiliation too.

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By *onaldandjacquelineCouple
over a year ago

wirral

"We are mainly stag vixen but enjot occasional elements of cuckold and like to mix it up now and then- variety is the spice of life!

Which elements of cuckold do you mean? (Which don't fall under stag and vixen play)

KJ x"

A bit of domination by the bull, a bit of light humiliation from the mrs and not getting involved or maybe when the bull has left

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A cuckold is simply the husband of an unfaithful wife.So hotwife,stag/vixen,submissive husband,etc are just different types of cuckold dynamic.

Not at all, someone shagging someone who isn't their partner, in a swinging environment, isn't being unfaithful."

Suppose it depends on your definition of unfaithful

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By *rFoxAndXenoCouple
over a year ago

Weymouth

"Can someone explain what a stag/vixen situation is please?

Stolen from another site

A vixen is the submissive woman who is having extramarital sex with her dominant partner's support.

I absolutely love this description! Me and Fox did a bit of cuckold roleplay and it didn't really get my motor running. Our kinky dynamics are 90% submissive on my part, so it feels much more natural to consider a stag/vixen scenario!

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"A cuckold is simply the husband of an unfaithful wife.So hotwife,stag/vixen,submissive husband,etc are just different types of cuckold dynamic.

Not at all, someone shagging someone who isn't their partner, in a swinging environment, isn't being unfaithful.

Suppose it depends on your definition of unfaithful"

About the same as most swingers definition I would suspect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A cuckold is simply the husband of an unfaithful wife.So hotwife,stag/vixen,submissive husband,etc are just different types of cuckold dynamic.

Not at all, someone shagging someone who isn't their partner, in a swinging environment, isn't being unfaithful.

Suppose it depends on your definition of unfaithful

About the same as most swingers definition I would suspect."

To me unfaithful in a sexual context just means sexual activity with someone who isn't your partner.

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By *ftereightMan
over a year ago

SouthEast

We very mich enjoy Stag and vixen play but also many other dynamics.. but never cuckold

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