FabSwingers.com forum: This might be a stupid question for the ladies but...

By *andydavidson OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Nottinghamshire

I'm new to the scene, Im a single TS female and i went to my first club last week to socialise and watch.

There were lots of couples and quite a few single guys too and although i got a lot of attention from the single guys i found myself mostly attracted to the ladies.

How do most girls feel about playing with a TS girl?

I'm not a hairy CD/TV and i have 36E boobs... in other words I'm nearly all female apart from the 'youknowwhat' lol

I guess the easy thing is to just go upto someone i like and simply ask 'Would you like to play?' but i prefer to be a bit more subtle.

So what are acceptable subtle hints that i'm interested?

ok i probably sound like a proper newbie dont i? lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I guess you're only part way through the transformation process, or whatever you would like to call it?

I'd think it depends on the woman really as to what her reaction might be if you flirted with her. If you look totally female then someone may get a heck of a surprise when you get more intimate.

Not sure how you could be up front about it though. "Hi I'm Mandy and I have a cock" might not be a good first line.

Sorry, I know that's totally crap. I'm hopeless at chat up lines anyway.

But back to my main point.... Some women might shriek and be ridiculous. Some (like me) might not bat an eyelid. It depends on all the other factors really. If I like someone, the body parts are irrelevant.

Why not just try and chat to people and make friends first. That way you will have a new friend... And if it turns into something more intimate, even better.

Good luck. Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi - first of all, if you were post-op then I don't think that you'd have too much trouble - I've had post-TS lesbian girlfriends and was quite happy.

I think the problem is that you haven't given enough information here for anyone to make a decision...

How do you want your unwanted "bits' to be involved?

If not at all - completely out of bounds (quite understandable) then it doesn't leave us much to play with or react to - that does get difficult...

On the other hand, if you are still happy to use the "bits" with another women, then some of us might very well beat a pathway to your door.. (sorry, but just being honest!)

But if we don't know what you want - then most women will just shy away....

I think that it might help if you did put some photos up - just general body pics, so that people can build a mental picture of you.

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By *andydavidson OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Nottinghamshire

Thanks for ur replies..

Yes i guess im half way through my transformation.

My issue is that i look totally female and also sound female, so its not like anyone can tell ive stick got a cock until i either tell them, or until they see it.

I can (and do) still use 'it' and im not bothered about how much (or little) attention it gets.

At some point i wont have it so i may as well use it whilst its there! Lol

I went to a club last week and made a lot of friends, i met a lot of ladies who turned me on and i kinda wanted to do something there and then but held back cos i didnt wanna look silly or do something wrong, even though they all knew i was TS cos we were in the jaccuzzi naked earlier that night.

My fantasy is to try domination and to have a 3way with either a FF or MF couple.

Im not brave enough to be in a room with loads of people watching (yet).

I guess i need to make myself known as a TS asap to everyone so there's no shocks? But if im honest this makes me feel a bit sad that i dont fit in, or that im some sort of freak

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By *wencatWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Thanks for ur replies..

Yes i guess im half way through my transformation.

My issue is that i look totally female and also sound female, so its not like anyone can tell ive stick got a cock until i either tell them, or until they see it.

I can (and do) still use 'it' and im not bothered about how much (or little) attention it gets.

At some point i wont have it so i may as well use it whilst its there! Lol

My fantasy is to try domination and to have a 3way with either a FF or MF couple.

Im not brave enough to be in a room with loads of people watching (yet).

I guess i need to make myself known as a TS asap to everyone so there's no shocks? But if im honest this makes me feel a bit sad that i dont fit in, or that im some sort of freak

X"
your not a freak and if most women r like me I have to admit I am attracted to a chick with a dick. it's all a bonus you having the bit extra I wouldn't be shocked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel just the same about TS ladies as I do about anyone else. Attraction is attraction and the actual bits you have doesn't make any difference.

I'd be perfectly happy to play with a TS lady if there was mutual attraction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Please dont feel a freak. I personnally ive never played with s TS, but if the attraction is there then yes I would

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By *preadeagleCouple
over a year ago

hull

I completely agree and at the end of the day have fun who cares what people think.Most people wouldnt be on here if they did regardless of gender, sexuality and quirks x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We would love to meet a feminine TS, we have been looking for ages!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for ur replies..

Yes i guess im half way through my transformation.

My issue is that i look totally female and also sound female, so its not like anyone can tell ive stick got a cock until i either tell them, or until they see it.

I can (and do) still use 'it' and im not bothered about how much (or little) attention it gets.

At some point i wont have it so i may as well use it whilst its there! Lol

My fantasy is to try domination and to have a 3way with either a FF or MF couple.

Im not brave enough to be in a room with loads of people watching (yet).

I guess i need to make myself known as a TS asap to everyone so there's no shocks? But if im honest this makes me feel a bit sad that i dont fit in, or that im some sort of freak

X your not a freak and if most women r like me I have to admit I am attracted to a chick with a dick. it's all a bonus you having the bit extra I wouldn't be shocked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd be happy to play with a trans woman. The attraction has to be there like with anyone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" even though they all knew i was TS cos we were in the jaccuzzi naked earlier that night.

That is the answer to your predicament, flirt in the hot tub, so that they know without you needing to say anything. if you fancy someone who responds to your flirting then simply ask if they would like to go and play.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never meet a TS I wouldn't say no if I found them attractive .

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By *kmale421Man
over a year ago

wirral

Hi Mandy,

I know you've asked for female views, I hope you don't mind a guy throwing in his view too.

I've visited a fair number of clubs over the years and I can understand your concerns.

I think you would find the views of people in an internet forum may be different to what you find in the real world and especially in swinger clubs. That's not suggesting that any of the ladies whom have responded in this thread wouldn't enjoy playing with you in a club, just that many people who attend clubs won't have responded, if that makes sense.

Most but not all clubs have a BI and/or a TS/TV night either weekly or periodically during the month. On those type of nights then I'd be surprised if you felt anything but comfortable and I would think that you would find people whom would be more than happy to play with you.

However, on non Bi, TV/TS nights, then I can understand why you may feel that you stand out and have to be more careful. Although swinger clubs are quite liberated and certainly noone bats an eyelid at FF sexual activity in an open environment, the fact is that I have never seen in any club open MM activity, even if that is a mix of MMF. It's not to say that it doesn't happen in private rooms, and there are definately Bi guys whom attend clubs, but many people at a club would be anti that happening publically.

Now in your case where you have boobs and a feminine look (not seen any pics so I'll take your word for that), but with your meat and 2 veg still very much in place and working, then I do think many people would look at you in a club on a non TS/TV night as a freak attraction. I do think you would need to be open pretty early on with anyone you chatted to and you'd have to turn a deaf ear to some of the comments that would be said in most clubs. Having said that, and I have tried to be honest rather than trying to offend you, I can definately see an attraction to a bi or lesbian lady in being with you in a club in a private room and I'm sure you could end up having lots of fun and possibly more fun than a straight guy like me might have.

I wish you the best of luck, but should we end up in the same hot tub, please give me a warning befrore my hand slides under the bubbles...

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By *andydavidson OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Nottinghamshire

Once again, thanks for replies. All of them taken positively x

Ukmale, interesting... I never thought that i might actually be more lucky than anybody else at a club. I guess when it comes to playing i will either go with a guy or a girl, not saying im not picky cos i am, its just i have a preference for girls, so the scenario where a guy might be offended is lessened cos i would certainly be upfront as soon as i sensed any interest.

I think this is only fair right?

Im really starting to figure out the nuances of this scene and all the private replies and on here have really helped.

For one thing i never knew there was this many curious girls and boys out there actively seeking fun with a TS girl! wow!

Far from feeling like a freak, as i was worried previously, im actually feeling quite empowered that i might have a LOT of fun.

I know there are specialist TV nights at most clubs but to be honest i find the idea of being bundled with hairy legged men in schoolgirl costumes, or bearded ladies as a bit ermmm... 'Uncomfortable.'

Not to say i dont respect their lifechoices but as a Transsexual i dont identify with Crossdressers or Transvestites. (Hope that doesnt make me sound bitchy) its not meant to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't make you bitchy at all... You're just stating a preference that's all... I (mand) see you as a woman in the making... You see sexuality I feel is so fluid at times and does change and we mature.... All best and definitely not a freak... More like unique... have fun, Ebony. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Feel even more empowered girl friend! Another bi woman who has no objection at all whatsoever to meeting and playing with a transexual.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For one thing i never knew there was this many curious girls and boys out there actively seeking fun with a TS girl! wow!

Not to say i dont respect their lifechoices but as a Transsexual i dont identify with Crossdressers or Transvestites. (Hope that doesnt make me sound bitchy) its not meant to.

Hi Mandy - yet another bloke giving his two pennyworth!

First - surprised that YOU are surprised at the level of interest in you. There is so much 'Pre-Op TS porn' out there, I don't find it surprising at all. Every different/new genre someone looks at opens yet another door and you never know which open door shows you something you would never have considered before, but which is saying 'gimme a try' - Lol! Not for me though....

But, I was more interested by your last statement about feeling no affinity with TV's or CD's - you remind me of George/Julia who was featured in BBC2's 'A change of sex' way back in 1981 and the follow up programme about 10 years back. In the follow-up she was taken to a TV's club and from a fly-on-the-wall perspective it was VERY interesting to see her reaction to them, and her comments to camera immediately she came out of the club. She (Julia) was VERY keen to make the distinction between the TV's in that club and her, and asked the camera the question 'why have they not gone through with what I did if they say they feel the same as me??' The implication being that they really did not. People make the very mistaken assumption that TV's/CD's and TS's are all out of the same mould, but this is so very wrong.

This is, however, why I think YOU may have felt 'uncomfortable' in a club on a 'normal' night. People will have made an assumption about you which YOU need to overcome. So... put them straight! (No pun intended honestly!)

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