FabSwingers.com forum: Kissing at meets

By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.

Kissing can transfer the following diseases; herpes virus, glandular fever, cold sores, warts, colds, influenza, mumps, covid-19, zika virus, ebola, malaria, gum disease, meningitis, syphilis, German measles, rabies and polio.

So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

Are you always wrapped in cotton wool?

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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago

Torfaen/Gwent

"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.

So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?

Many of those don't need kissing to be transferred, simply being as close as sex generally is, would be enough.

So unless you're wearing full PPE with your condomed cock out, nothing is ever going to be a 100% and even being in PPE isn't a gaurentee of safety.

If you're worried about this, maybe swinging isn't for you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Risk tolerance in this country has gone down the pan. V irritating. How do some people cross the road without worrying about being hit by a meteorite?!

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.

So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?

Many of those don't need kissing to be transferred, simply being as close as sex generally is, would be enough.

So unless you're wearing full PPE with your condomed cock out, nothing is ever going to be a 100% and even being in PPE isn't a gaurentee of safety.

If you're worried about this, maybe swinging isn't for you. "
many of those you would only need to be in a room to risk catching them x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you always wrapped in cotton wool? "

#snowflakes

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By *ausageNmashCouple
over a year ago

Andover

Yes. Love a nice kiss. If you are that worried then why meet at all ?

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
over a year ago

"Yes. Love a nice kiss. If you are that worried then why meet at all ?"

I don't think he's worried, I read it as he's just upset that no one will let him bareback them

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Behind the bike shed!

"Yes. Love a nice kiss. If you are that worried then why meet at all ?

I don't think he's worried, I read it as he's just upset that no one will let him bareback them

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

You die if you worry you die if you don’t

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.

So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?

I can give you some Mummy advice - gargle with warm salty water after anything oral ....

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Here is some good news OP. You are mistaken. You cannot catch rabies from kissing a human.

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By *ircMan
over a year ago

Aplace

Kissing is vital !!!

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By *eardedTattManMan
over a year ago

Elland

"Yes. Love a nice kiss. If you are that worried then why meet at all ?

I don't think he's worried, I read it as he's just upset that no one will let him bareback them

Yep.. this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes. Love a nice kiss. If you are that worried then why meet at all ?

I don't think he's worried, I read it as he's just upset that no one will let him bareback them

That's my take on it too x

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Theirs less chance from kissing if you have oral hygiene.

How many even wash properly after bareback and how many have even consider washing before engaging into bareback

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford

"Risk tolerance in this country has gone down the pan. V irritating. How do some people cross the road without worrying about being hit by a meteorite?!"

They use their smartphones to tell them whether it is safe to cross!

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By *ver-CuriousCouple
over a year ago

Newtownabbey

"Risk tolerance in this country has gone down the pan. V irritating. How do some people cross the road without worrying about being hit by a meteorite?!"

To be honest,I never ever worried about being hit by a meteorite whilst crossing the road,but I will now,thanks

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford

For me, kissing on a meet is very important, regardless of any risks involved. The chances of catching STI via kissing are much smaller than through bareback sex.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you want to be 100% safe from catching anything, I suggest you buy a small island somewhere, shut yourself off from the rest of the world and become self sufficient.... you'll be fine, unless there's a nuclear war...

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

To be honest,I never ever worried about being hit by a meteorite whilst crossing the road,but I will now,thanks

I find wearing a tin foil hat gives 100% protection from meteors. I've never been hit by one

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Did you also know sex alone can cause a heart attack

We all need to live in a bubble

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Did you also know sex alone can cause a heart attack

Wanking ?

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By *ubenesque.Woman
over a year ago

over by there

Malaria isn’t spread by kissing either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Here is some good news OP. You are mistaken. You cannot catch rabies from kissing a human. "

You won't believe how relieved I am to read that. Fantastic - means I can snog without worrying I've passed it on to someone else!

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Did you also know sex alone can cause a heart attack

Wanking ?"

Na I'm busy

But yes it has been known that can to,but engaged with another person just like anything if a person over does it

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Are you always wrapped in cotton wool? "

At no point did I make any personal comment. Why did you need to make one?

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.

So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?

Many of those don't need kissing to be transferred, simply being as close as sex generally is, would be enough.

So unless you're wearing full PPE with your condomed cock out, nothing is ever going to be a 100% and even being in PPE isn't a gaurentee of safety.

If you're worried about this, maybe swinging isn't for you. "

I was not making a personal statement; why did you comment on my own position?.

It is risk perception I was interested in. As I said "safe sex" people engage in kissing yet it is, if anything, more risky than bareback.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Are you always wrapped in cotton wool? "

I just found out cotton wool disease is a common fungal infection

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.

So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?

Many of those don't need kissing to be transferred, simply being as close as sex generally is, would be enough.

So unless you're wearing full PPE with your condomed cock out, nothing is ever going to be a 100% and even being in PPE isn't a gaurentee of safety.

If you're worried about this, maybe swinging isn't for you. many of those you would only need to be in a room to risk catching them x"

True, so perhaps "safe sex" is not possible?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Only "safer sex" is possible

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well life is full of risks in all we do!

We could get hit by a bus crossing the road!

Struck by lightening! The list is endless...

I use condoms but I enjoy kissing!

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Kissing also turns people bi curious if before the kiss have had oral play

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Yes. Love a nice kiss. If you are that worried then why meet at all ?"

I did not say anything about my own position. It's a risk perception question. Is "safe sex" even possible?

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Yes. Love a nice kiss. If you are that worried then why meet at all ?

I don't think he's worried, I read it as he's just upset that no one will let him bareback them

Please point out where I said anything about my own position. Why did you feel the need to personalise this?

It was a risk perception question not a personal one.

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Only "safer sex" is possible"

Agreed. Knock off those risks you can avoid.

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Here is some good news OP. You are mistaken. You cannot catch rabies from kissing a human.

You won't believe how relieved I am to read that. Fantastic - means I can snog without worrying I've passed it on to someone else!"

Humans can catch rabies and if you kiss one .... But it is far more common with animals I agree.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

I personally think theirs less risk from kissing then their would going to a bar and buying a pint beer or glass of wine and neither been cleaned properly

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Only "safer sex" is possible

Agreed. Knock off those risks you can avoid. "

Safest sex is definitely same room sex on your own. Unless you're being bitten by malarial mosquitos and a rabid dog

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Malaria isn’t spread by kissing either. "

I stand corrected.

Obviously a Q-anon site I looked at.

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Only "safer sex" is possible

Agreed. Knock off those risks you can avoid.

Safest sex is definitely same room sex on your own. Unless you're being bitten by malarial mosquitos and a rabid dog"

Are you allowed to mention animals on Fab?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Humans can catch rabies and if you kiss one .... "

"No case of human to human rabies transmission has been documented"

BMJ July 2019

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"For me, kissing on a meet is very important, regardless of any risks involved. The chances of catching STI via kissing are much smaller than through bareback sex. "

True; but some of the other diseases caught via exchange of bodily fluids during kissing are worse than most STIs.

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Humans can catch rabies and if you kiss one ....

"No case of human to human rabies transmission has been documented"

BMJ July 2019"

Phew. Rabies is off the list. I would put Covid-19, most SARS infections and influenza as statistically more likely. But a quick spot of ebola, now you are talking.

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By *otMe66Man
over a year ago

Terra Firma

"Risk tolerance in this country has gone down the pan. V irritating. How do some people cross the road without worrying about being hit by a meteorite?!"

This is why I never cross roads, far to dangerous! The green cross code is useless, look right, look left and look right again, no mention of looking up! Scandalous

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By *arrymonkerMan
over a year ago

Midlands

Cannot get intimate with someone without kissing IMO. I’ve turned down meets where a couple has said you can’t kiss her (smacks of a prostitute type of scenario).. sorry that is a deal breaker for me

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By *orthseatiger69Man
over a year ago

Ayrshire /North lanarshire

I survived the 70s and 80s - and kissing is one my favourite things to do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kissing randomers is gross anyway hahaha

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Kissing randomers is gross anyway hahaha

Remember those carefree days when we shook hands with strangers ?

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

"Are you always wrapped in cotton wool?

At no point did I make any personal comment. Why did you need to make one? "

I didn't mean to be rude or offend you but I thought it was a strange comment to put on a sex site.

Life is full of risk but I think kissing is one of the lesser risks in life, even less risky than going to the supermarket.

I apologise x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Kissing randomers is gross anyway hahaha

Remember those carefree days when we shook hands with strangers ?"

Beautiful times

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By *erfectman122Man
over a year ago

from somewhere nice

Kissing is mandatory… if the connection is there

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By *sBlueWoman
over a year ago

Up North

"Kissing is mandatory… if the connection is there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I said "safe sex" people engage in kissing yet it is, if anything, more risky than bareback. "

Oh dear

Kissing more risky that bareback intercourse sex! I've now read it all.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Theirs less chance from kissing if you have oral hygiene.

How many even wash properly after bareback and how many have even consider washing before engaging into bareback"

It's often advised not to brush teeth in close proximity to sex, due to increasing the levels risk, rather than lowering them.

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By *all me FlikWoman
over a year ago

Galaxy Far Far Away

"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.

So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?

If someone had all of those I think I would notice

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By *etwifeandhim69Couple
over a year ago

Darlington

"Yes. Love a nice kiss. If you are that worried then why meet at all ?

I don't think he's worried, I read it as he's just upset that no one will let him bareback them

It's usually the underlying topic they're really getting it.

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Are you always wrapped in cotton wool?

At no point did I make any personal comment. Why did you need to make one?

I didn't mean to be rude or offend you but I thought it was a strange comment to put on a sex site.

Life is full of risk but I think kissing is one of the lesser risks in life, even less risky than going to the supermarket.

I apologise x"

Thank you. Just a misunderstanding friend.

Not a strange topic really. Kissing is a nice prelude to sexual contact. It's just some will happily wax lyrical about the dangers of bareback whilst kissing all and sundry. Both carry risks but I wondered how those really concerened about STIs viewed the situation.

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By *assy LassieWoman
over a year ago

Lanarkshire

"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.

So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?

Well aren't you a bundle of joy

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Yes. Love a nice kiss. If you are that worried then why meet at all ?

I don't think he's worried, I read it as he's just upset that no one will let him bareback them

It's usually the underlying topic they're really getting it.

Nope, as stated. Risk assessment. Simples. If I want to moan about not getting bareback that is what I will do; but on this occasion I did not express my own point of view.

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.

So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?

Well aren't you a bundle of joy"

YES!!!

Got me in one!!

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.

So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?

If someone had all of those I think I would notice

Hrm? No pulse? grey complexion? strange smell? possibly.

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Theirs less chance from kissing if you have oral hygiene.

How many even wash properly after bareback and how many have even consider washing before engaging into bareback

It's often advised not to brush teeth in close proximity to sex, due to increasing the levels risk, rather than lowering them. "

Do you use chlorohexidine?

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Kissing is mandatory… if the connection is there

Yes indeed ... but sadly not risk free.

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Cannot get intimate with someone without kissing IMO. I’ve turned down meets where a couple has said you can’t kiss her (smacks of a prostitute type of scenario).. sorry that is a deal breaker for me

So worth the risks then?

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By *iss DevilWoman
over a year ago

Bedford

So worth the risks then? "

What do you think, OP?

We all make our own risk assessments, and live by them.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Was this taken from the PHD, dished out by the University of FaceBook?

Putting things into perpsective..

Herpes virus: Which variety? Chicken pox or cold sores?

Glandular fever: I've not met anyone who had it since 1990

Cold sores: AKA scabby gob, generally on the mouth and quite visible...giz a kiss.

Warts: not all of them are contagious, some of them just sit there and are harmless

Colds: husky voice, sore throat and mouth, sneezing and coughing, you are likely to avoid them like the plague. Non-contact needed for transmission

Influenza: see above on colds

Mumps: haven't you had your jabs yet?

Covid-19: see above on colds, mumps and flu

Ebola: not a problem if you stay away from the African hotspots.

Malaria: see above

Gum disease: not always the case, please provide proof

Meningitis: this was causing problems for students not too long ago

Syphilis: provide more info

German measles: Where's your jab?

Rabies: pretty much non existent on these shores

Polio: considering most of the population had their drops as a baby, i'm not worried.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

Kissing a smoker? Yuck!

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"Are you always wrapped in cotton wool? "

I'm not, wool makes me itch.

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

So worth the risks then?

What do you think, OP?

We all make our own risk assessments, and live by them. "

I think each will make their own decision. It's just the apparent perception that a disease caught through sexual intercourse is far more frightening and damaging than one through kissing.

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Thank you folks for all your contributions.

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By *damantMan
over a year ago

High Crompton

"Malaria isn’t spread by kissing either. "

Tell that to the mosquito that tongued me...

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By *damantMan
over a year ago

High Crompton

"Are you always wrapped in cotton wool?

I'm not, wool makes me itch."

Cotton wool is cotton, not wool.

It's a war of the roses thing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.

So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?

Op your list is incomplete. You can also catch diarreah and mad cow disease from kissing.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"Are you always wrapped in cotton wool?

I'm not, wool makes me itch.

Cotton wool is cotton, not wool.

It's a war of the roses thing."

Doh! It's still ticklish, I hate it when the dentist shoves in in my mouth.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"There is frequent debate on Fab about bareback vs condom. However it is not unusual for safe sex "condomers" to say they enjoy kissing.

So I ask the safe sexers who kiss at meets; do the risks of kissing outweigh the benefits?

Op your list is incomplete. You can also catch diarreah and mad cow disease from kissing.

and worst of all...BABIES, 9 months later! I heard it in the playground.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"Here is some good news OP. You are mistaken. You cannot catch rabies from kissing a human. "

Ebola is probably a bit of a long shot in the UK as well.

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By *uriousscouserWoman
over a year ago

Wirral

For me kissing is worth the risk.

For me bareback sex isn't.

You may see things differently, but thankfully I'm up front enough about my preferences that people I chat to can understand them and make an informed choice on whether or not they want to meet.

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By *unning-ManMan
over a year ago

Prestbury

Safe human interaction of any sort isn't possible if you want to go down that route.

That's why we were locked up for months on end, no handshakes, masks, washing hands, sanitiser when you touch anything etc.

Different people have different risk profiles. I am sure anyone that doesn't want bareback sex is remiss for enjoying kissing someone. Yes there's a risk to kissing, but I would consider the risk profile way less than bareback sex. Some of the things you've listed are so rare in the UK, or people have been vaccinated against, that it seems paranoia to even consider them as a valid risk anyway.

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By *lan157Man
over a year ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex

OP if you pose a question on the forum without stating the reason for asking or stating your own view then how is anyone to know how worrying this is to you? People kiss or don't kiss their playmates and I for one would not be that interested in someone who was not a kisser.

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

I think he's been listening to this cover of "I'll never fall in love again", by Deacon Blue...

What do you get when you kiss a girl

You get enough germs to catch pneumonia

After you do she'll never phone you

I'll never fall in love again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

not worth the risk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

After anything oral. What, like Sunday lunch? ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I did a meet with no kissing and it made me feel like a whore (not in a good way). Kissing is essential.

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By *iman2100 OP Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"OP if you pose a question on the forum without stating the reason for asking or stating your own view then how is anyone to know how worrying this is to you? People kiss or don't kiss their playmates and I for one would not be that interested in someone who was not a kisser. "

The reason for asking was to hear peoples response to the question which was about risk perception.

The reason for not stating my point of view is if that is done then forum posts rapidly gravitate into personal abuse from those who do not agree with the OP's standpoint and thus they defeat the object of the post.

Personally I am not at all worried by this. I was not seeking advice but opinion. Once again any disease attributable to genital contact is viewed as significantly worse than its normal life equivalent.

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

I like my bottom kissed.

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By *etterdays2021Man
over a year ago

PETERBOROUGH

No point on meeting if theirs no kissing..for me its all bout the kissing..

But everyone have diferente opinions

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