FabSwingers.com forum: Advice for single guys

By *adInLiverpool OP Man
over a year ago

LIVERPOOL

I’ve read a few long lists of everything a single guy should do on here, and with all due respect girls (can’t speak for couples it’s a different dynamic) let’s be honest.

A guy who’s built and good looking, could break every “rule” you put in those lists, and he’s more likely to get some action when you want to fuck, than the average guy who follows the “rules”.

He probably doesn’t even need to message most of the time.

Those “lists” are mostly to thin out the herd, because like we all know, couples and women on here, their inboxes are absolutely full to the brim with messages, so I understand.

Lads get to the gym, offer something that’ll excite her and show her a good time.

And if you do find someone you genuinely get on well with on here, that’s great, but let’s be honest about why we’re all on here.....

I’m sure I’ll ruffle some feathers on here with this, but I think it’s a bit unfair to tell guys they’ll get results if they follow these lists, when I personally think (I could be wrong) they’d do better if they spent the time they do on here, improving themselves instead.

And even then, it’s still a game of numbers, there’s been plenty of women I’ve read the profiles of, sent cheeky, interesting messages to, started messaging back and forth with on here, then they ask for a face pic and you don’t here back after that, to be fair most give you the “you’re not my type” message, which is the right thing to do in my opinion and always respect that.

Rejection is the name of the game for guys, so this is not a complaint, just stating how it is and trying to be as honest as I can.

And yeah, I need improvement like everyone else and that’s what I’m doing.

Don’t hate on me too much, it’s all said outta love.

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By *nSeeNMan
over a year ago

Z'ha'dum

If I'm honest I'm not a fan of the advice threads as in my opinion it's helping people be something their not, if that makes sense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If a guy sends me a Dick pic, my profile says I’ll block him.

I don’t care if he’s hot as hell, it’s a hard rule. I’ll still block him.

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By *adInLiverpool OP Man
over a year ago

LIVERPOOL

"If I'm honest I'm not a fan of the advice threads as in my opinion it's helping people be something their not, if that makes sense. "

Yeah, I get you

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

"If I'm honest I'm not a fan of the advice threads as in my opinion it's helping people be something their not, if that makes sense.

Yeah, I get you"

Well it’s extremely rare for a guy to do anything with the advice given in those sort of threads anyway, so that’s kind of irrelevant.

And it’s really not a numbers game, I made a brilliant thread about that misconception last month.

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By *lamorousBeautyLondonWoman
over a year ago

London

My opinion about the post is that your points are both right and wrong.

Right in a way that for some people some of the time good looks and good effort with physical shape will be exactly what they are looking for and it will be exactly what they need. I will hazard a guess that this is more likely for couples - based on my own experience when I could rely on a trusted play partner to organise an adventure together, vetting was much easier as there were fewer concerns to address.

In general, making an effort to be fit and healthy is not a bad idea.

However I disagree that advice threads are insisting on some kind of "rules". I don't think anyone would call them rules, rather things that mostly work and things that mostly don't work. I am in two minds about such advice - on one hand, it might be helpful to people who don't quite know or are inexperienced etc. There were many things I didn't know and still don't - you live and you (hopefully) learn. On the other hand, if a grown adult does not know the basics of communication, what is the point in trying to explain it? He doesn't know because he does not want to know, it's a choice. There is plenty of information widely available on effective communication so if someone really wants to they can find out.

It is not only that though, a lot has to do with attitude and attitude is definitely a choice. For example, entitlement is not so easy to un-learn and the person has to be willing to do the work!

What you forget is that physical attraction is far from the only concern for many - at least for a lot of single women a much bigger concern is safety and how a man communicates is one of the ways to establish how safe he will be. Is he showing signs of a potential good play partner or of a selfish one? Is he showing signs that he understands what is appropriate behaviour? Is he showing signs of an angry man? Etc.

So sure, good physique is great but some abs and a penis is hardly enough! I am simplifying perhaps but hopefully you get the idea.

People have different preferences as well. Personally, I have put a lot of effort in my profile and I expect the same level of effort when people contact me. Also, for me swinging is about happy adventures and lovely experiences with other humans. If I want the exercise I'll do Zumba and if I want an orgam my Rocks Off Everygirl will deliver every time with the least amount of effort and with perfect safety - so with someone else it is a holistic experience, not just a sum of body parts and I want a great time, not mediocre or worse, harmful. I want it to add to my life, not to take away.

And yes, we all have to deal with rejection, it's life. It might be in different forms but it is still rejection. I get no replies or get blocked and my message deleted when I send messages at times, it happens to us all. My inbox is also perfectly manageable so I read phrases like "numbers game", "hundreds of messages" with a big dose of scepticism. For some, some of the time - sure. Not for everyone.

Also, people are different and they like different things, they have different interests, different ways how their attraction and sexuality works, there is no universal body type (as much as the wider media and porn are trying to convince us otherwise, in reality it is simply not true).

By all means, making an effort in whichever form it takes is always a good idea. Perhaps a question arises of how much effort it is worth putting - I'm sure we all have that feeling at times when we are rejected, being stood up or someone disappearing and that's dispiriting. Whether it is worth continuing is an individual decision.

The only universal advice for men of FS I would hazard to give is simply this - do your best to facilitate a space where women can feel welcome rather than unsafe and harrassed (even if it feels like it is just you doing it, it is worth it and thank you). Contact them how they WISH to be contacted instead of how you think they SHOULD WISH (big difference) to be contacted and make an effort.

Just my two cents.

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

Just be yourself.

What works for one won’t work for the other.

My profiles clear about what I want, you can be hot as f*ck and rude and you’ll still get deleted.

That being said, I’ve got to be attracted to someone. But that doesn’t mean go work on yourself in the gym.

The fancy a fuck messages work for some and others block straight away.

Never gonna please everyone, don’t know why people try

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

There's never, ever any guarantees here but some simple tactics can impact on your results. If you can do something differently, that may take next to no additional effort, does it make sense to try it out?

There are no 'rules' as such, apart from the site ones and, it goes without saying, to treat everyone with respect at all times.

Think of life as an experiment, where you don't get a user guide - you learn as you go, trying different things and approaches out. There will be some of them that are fairly likely to get limited satisfaction. But humans continue to experiment, wanting to improve their outcomes.

You can jump the waiting list for likely better satisfaction, if you experiment with some of the guidance from others who have some experience or know how they'd prefer you to engage with them. It's still a choice though! If you prefer to walk with your shoelaces tied together, you can revert back to having them tied, after you try out having both feet fully separated.

Some of these things are just common sense.

You don't need to be a ripped Adonis to get success here, though it's probably healthier for some people to be fitter. Not everyone prefers ultra-lean, gym bodied men. How you communicate with others is going to be influential and your personality is unique, so it's worthwhile giving yourself your best chance to express yourself and let others get to know it.

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By *lirty-CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Bexley

The guys who get our attention are those who've read our profile, understood it and respond accordingly. The guys who get ignored/blocked are those who don't meet even our basic criteria.

It's not much to ask really is it. If you really want a job you don't apply without reading the advert/job description and still expect to get an interviewor or offer do you...

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By *ischer400777Man
over a year ago

stanley county durham

Let’s be really honest if a average man ie face body or cock had a great profile and a hot man had average to bad profile he would still do so much better .

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By *ensiveMan
over a year ago

Lincoln area

This advice is meaningless. If the women on here don't fancy you, you're buggered. A 4/10 woman can have a pick of very good looking, fit,hung men, due to extreme choice disparity, plus age old 'men will fuck anything'.

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By *ischer400777Man
over a year ago

stanley county durham

I have seen so many examples of a hot man only putting looking for fun , want to meet sexy people etc no mention of interests or anything about themselves which a lot of women are saying they want show us your personality yet these men have so many veris good luck to them I say .

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By *ischer400777Man
over a year ago

stanley county durham

"This advice is meaningless. If the women on here don't fancy you, you're buggered. A 4/10 woman can have a pick of very good looking, fit,hung men, due to extreme choice disparity, plus age old 'men will fuck anything'."
could not agree more you have to have something that sells ie your face body cock and if you are blessed all 3 , it does not matter how bland your profile is if they fancy you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seriously??? I didn’t see any topics saying ‘advice for single girls’ or advice for the rest !! Do you really not think this is sexist ? Or in a way underestimating a single males because they are single . Because we are single it doesn’t mean we are desperate or need help or advice from anyone else, because we are single it doesn’t mean we don’t know how to treat a woman.If we are single it’s because we choose to be single or stay single . In my opinion none need advice(neither male nor female) just be yourself and treat people the way you like to be treated!

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford

"I’ve read a few long lists of everything a sing

le guy should do on here, and with all due respect girls (can’t speak for couples it’s a different dynamic) let’s be honest.

He probably doesn’t even need to message most of the time.

Those “lists” are mostly to thin out the herd, because like we all know, couples and women on here, their inboxes are absolutely full to the brim with messages, so I understand.

Lads get to the gym, offer something that’ll excite her and show her a good time.

And if you do find someone you genuinely get on well with on here, that’s great, but let’s be honest about why we’re all on here.....

Rejection is the name of the game for guys, so this is not a complaint, just stating how it is and trying to be as honest as I can.

And yeah, I need improvement like everyone else and that’s what I’m doing.

Don’t hate on me too much, it’s all said outta love.

wise words OP..the truth is Fab can be a very toxic environment if you let it be. Additionally it can do serious damage to your confidence if you are a man and generally gives a very skewed impression for average /below average women making them think they are Gods gift..they aren't btw! a lot of them are in quite poor condition physically and mentally it's just there's so many randy men on here hoping against hope that one of these women will suddenly get down and dirty with them.

Quite a lot of these women are looking for a long term partner not a casual hook if they were honest with themselves btw too !

There is absolutely a 'core' set in here who are 'real' swingers who do meet and do swap partners but that's mainly couples not singles.

Some single men seem to get lucky but they generally have to be exceptional in some way to do that . You probably are not that level of 'exceptional !

Sadly there's also a LOT of time wasters and false profiles now which makes things very difficult for single guys..Oh and there's Covid too don't forget!

Everyone's entitled to do Fab in their own way of course . Though I would not recommend jumping in and joining a gym to get ripped straight away guys .. if you spend your life online eating junk food playing games and don't want to stop ..joining a gym wont make a scrap of difference! and it will cost you money.

Fab's fun to have a bit of banter on and maybe meet someone you get along with..as a single its highly unlikely you will meet anyone worth getting to know for sex at the moment anyway..and if you are invited to a meet at the moment what does that say about the people who invite you? for me I look for intelligence a sense of humour and an ability to hold a conversation about a topic we have in common then I want to see what's under their clothes and play if its going that way ..the rest as they say ( if there is a rest!)is 'gravy'.

The most important thing is the guys on Fab need to value themselves and their worth particularly at the moment . It's hard to do that if you are constantly being ignored or rejected and someone with an already low self esteem is going to feel much worse about themselves after an evening of beer and rejections . Another reason why the women on here love Fab is because it does the total opposite and makes many a 'sows ear' feel like a 'silk purse for a while 'which is absolutely fine too .Nothing like a boost to the ego than have its of guys contacting you when ordinarily few would in real life !

Staying alive in the Fab world ?It's a case of not taking Fab too seriously at all and not expecting to meet someone for sex simply because you have joined the site..you need a thick skin to absorb all the rejections you are going to get and you will get them!..so just take it with a pinch of salt don't try and improve yourself to fit in with what you think women will expect you to be.

Consider how much time you spend online wanting to meet someone and compare it to your hourly rate of pay..you will probably save some time and money just going the local massage parlour for a rub and a tug. You will probably feel a huge sense of relief and release and be less frustrated for the rest of the day too.

Consider yourselves chaps and your own self worth in this world .

just be yourself, push your talents that you already have when you talk to people. Oh and just talk to people don't race into your virtual room waving your cock about asking women what bra size they are or whether they shave ?etc..just talk..it seems a lot of guys forget they are good at Diy, IT, fixing cars etc..lots of people need advice these days so whilst you might not have a six pack and a ten inch cock being able to explain to someone how to change the oil or plugs in their car might make you more attractive perhaps? or even just be a listener a lot of women are single parents going through all sorts of tough times and would love someone to just have an ordinary chat with. You can still sit there naked plating with your wanger but you don't need to tell them that do you! point is play to your strengths guys not pretend that you have what you think the women want .

Feel empowered in yourself as just an ordinary bloke in a very strange world.Don't try to change to meet others expectations unless you really want to of course!in which case bin the crisps and sell the ps4! and most of all enjoy your life your way not how you think others expect you to be.

That way you can still wake up feeling good about yourself tomorrow..hopefully !

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By *ensiveMan
over a year ago

Lincoln area

"This advice is meaningless. If the women on here don't fancy you, you're buggered. A 4/10 woman can have a pick of very good looking, fit,hung men, due to extreme choice disparity, plus age old 'men will fuck anything'.could not agree more you have to have something that sells ie your face body cock and if you are blessed all 3 , it does not matter how bland your profile is if they fancy you "

Spot on

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By *ischer400777Man
over a year ago

stanley county durham

I am not suggesting all hot men never get rejected on the contrary a lot of people put empahsis on the profile but that person will still fancy them which makes it bizzare to me

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By *ensiveMan
over a year ago

Lincoln area

"I am not suggesting all hot men never get rejected on the contrary a lot of people put empahsis on the profile but that person will still fancy them which makes it bizzare to me "

Once you've accepted this place as pure bizaro world it's a lot of fun.

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By *lamorousBeautyLondonWoman
over a year ago

London

"Let’s be really honest if a average man ie face body or cock had a great profile and a hot man had average to bad profile he would still do so much better ."

Perhaps - if that perceived "hotter" man will also show that he is safe and GGG in his communication. Both myself and other women I know have received enough "fancy meeting now" or "want some fun" to treat them as spam. There you go, real honesty in return.

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By *lamorousBeautyLondonWoman
over a year ago

London

"Seriously??? I didn’t see any topics saying ‘advice for single girls’ or advice for the rest !! Do you really not think this is sexist ? Or in a way underestimating a single males because they are single . Because we are single it doesn’t mean we are desperate or need help or advice from anyone else, because we are single it doesn’t mean we don’t know how to treat a woman.If we are single it’s because we choose to be single or stay single . In my opinion none need advice(neither male nor female) just be yourself and treat people the way you like to be treated! "

Indeed - they rarely do need actual advice, yet for some reason ask for it frequently. I think I have seen at least 6 or 7 threads recently which are variations of a man asking for advice on his profile or how to contact women.

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By *lamorousBeautyLondonWoman
over a year ago

London

"This advice is meaningless. If the women on here don't fancy you, you're buggered. A 4/10 woman can have a pick of very good looking, fit,hung men, due to extreme choice disparity, plus age old 'men will fuck anything'.could not agree more you have to have something that sells ie your face body cock and if you are blessed all 3 , it does not matter how bland your profile is if they fancy you "

"A 4/10 woman". I didn't know we are being evaluated like so much cattle. Which such an attitude towards women I would not be surprised at lack of success. I am sure I am not the only one who hates to be judged and has a sixth sense for male resentment and entitlement.

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By *adInLiverpool OP Man
over a year ago

LIVERPOOL

"This advice is meaningless. If the women on here don't fancy you, you're buggered. A 4/10 woman can have a pick of very good looking, fit,hung men, due to extreme choice disparity, plus age old 'men will fuck anything'.could not agree more you have to have something that sells ie your face body cock and if you are blessed all 3 , it does not matter how bland your profile is if they fancy you

I didn’t know we evaluated cattle on their beauty....

You seem like a well meaning person, and I don’t mean any offence by this, but if you don’t want to be evaluated on your looks, why do you put pictures of your body up? That styled picture of you in your fur coat, with nice red lipstick on?, the pictures of your body half naked? Come on darling you’re using the way you look to attract people, so don’t blame people for “judging” you based on your looks in the context of what they find attractive. Someone may see you as a “4/10”, some may see you as a “10/10” , doesn’t change the fact that you’re showing the way you look to attract someone, and there’s nothing wrong with that, just like there’s nothing wrong with men looking at women and deciding how attractive they find that women based on her looks.

I don’t look at a girl who I find attractive and say to myself “I bet she’s a really great,kind person”, no, I think about how I’d want to have sex with her...to put it lightly.

Any other qualities in a person other than the physical you don’t find out about until later anyway, and even then, they’re only letting you see what they want you to see, until they can’t “hide” it anymore.

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By *adInLiverpool OP Man
over a year ago

LIVERPOOL

"Just be yourself.

What works for one won’t work for the other.

My profiles clear about what I want, you can be hot as f*ck and rude and you’ll still get deleted.

That being said, I’ve got to be attracted to someone. But that doesn’t mean go work on yourself in the gym.

The fancy a fuck messages work for some and others block straight away.

Never gonna please everyone, don’t know why people try

“Just be yourself” the immortal last words every man hears as a young man, after he gets dumped for the first time hahah.

I know this “just be yourself” comes from a good place and I don’t fault anyone who says it. But my word, it’s the worst advice anyone could give, don’t just “be yourself”, try be your best self!

Is anyone here still the same person they were a year ago? 5 years ago? No, you’re someone different, for better or for worse. So don’t “be yourself“ be what you think is better.

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By *lamorousBeautyLondonWoman
over a year ago

London

"This advice is meaningless. If the women on here don't fancy you, you're buggered. A 4/10 woman can have a pick of very good looking, fit,hung men, due to extreme choice disparity, plus age old 'men will fuck anything'.could not agree more you have to have something that sells ie your face body cock and if you are blessed all 3 , it does not matter how bland your profile is if they fancy you

I didn’t know we evaluated cattle on their beauty....

I don’t look at a girl who I find attractive and say to myself “I bet she’s a really great,kind person”, no, I think about how I’d want to have sex with her...to put it lightly.

Thanks but no thanks, pumpkin - you have twisted my words completely. What I pointed out as a sign of bad attitude is the revolting idea of a score and all that is associated with it. Of course people's looks have an influence on our interest levels and we all put effort into presenting ourselves because we understand that looks are relevant. I don't however evaluate men as if they are some cattle or products, I don't score them, what an idiotic idea - and of course I have a revulsion to those who display such an attitude. It's not as if I don't get enough of that in all other areas of my life, I don't need it in my private life, that's for sure.

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton

"If a guy sends me a Dick pic, my profile says I’ll block him.

I don’t care if he’s hot as hell, it’s a hard rule. I’ll still block him. "

You haven’t blocked me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If a guy sends me a Dick pic, my profile says I’ll block him.

I don’t care if he’s hot as hell, it’s a hard rule. I’ll still block him.

You haven’t blocked me

Have now.

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton

"If a guy sends me a Dick pic, my profile says I’ll block him.

I don’t care if he’s hot as hell, it’s a hard rule. I’ll still block him.

You haven’t blocked me

Have now.

Haha tea came out of my nose then!!!

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By *exy Black JenWoman
over a year ago

London/Eastbourne weekends

Maybe I'm thinking differntly, but I always think it's easier to meet someone at a social. Men who may think it's to hard to get a meet should try it if they can. For me a personality always shines through. It's not always about looks for me. I know you'll all be rolling your eyes when I say this.....but I actually like men who can make me smile. I've met some really nice men at socials who on paper I might not have had a connection with....just saying.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If a guy sends me a Dick pic, my profile says I’ll block him.

I don’t care if he’s hot as hell, it’s a hard rule. I’ll still block him.

You haven’t blocked me

Have now.

Haha tea came out of my nose then!!!"

Try that with a can of pop.

Stings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This type of tread is like a broken record at the end of the party…

Be patient the right one will eventually say yes to you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If a guy sends me a Dick pic, my profile says I’ll block him.

I don’t care if he’s hot as hell, it’s a hard rule. I’ll still block him.

You haven’t blocked me

Have now.

Haha tea came out of my nose then!!!

Try that with a can of pop.

Stings.

Sorry to hijacked your little fun but it reminds me one day as I was deepthroating her at the end of the bed she suddenly sneeze while I unload in her mouth and it came out of her nose lol.

Sorry…

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton

"If a guy sends me a Dick pic, my profile says I’ll block him.

I don’t care if he’s hot as hell, it’s a hard rule. I’ll still block him.

You haven’t blocked me

Have now.

Haha tea came out of my nose then!!!

Try that with a can of pop.

Stings.

Almost asked you if you’ve done that with cum……but not going to lower the tone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If a guy sends me a Dick pic, my profile says I’ll block him.

I don’t care if he’s hot as hell, it’s a hard rule. I’ll still block him.

You haven’t blocked me

Have now.

Haha tea came out of my nose then!!!

Try that with a can of pop.

Stings.

Almost asked you if you’ve done that with cum……but not going to lower the tone

The guy above can deep throat apparently. Ask him.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I delete unread those people that don't follow my very simple requests, to be local and include a face pic.

Those that include a face pic but aren't my type, depending on their message will get a no thankyou or delete.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If a guy sends me a Dick pic, my profile says I’ll block him.

I don’t care if he’s hot as hell, it’s a hard rule. I’ll still block him.

You haven’t blocked me

Have now.

Haha tea came out of my nose then!!!

Try that with a can of pop.

Stings.

Almost asked you if you’ve done that with cum……but not going to lower the tone

The guy above can deep throat apparently. Ask him.

The guy?

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By *adInLiverpool OP Man
over a year ago

LIVERPOOL

"This advice is meaningless. If the women on here don't fancy you, you're buggered. A 4/10 woman can have a pick of very good looking, fit,hung men, due to extreme choice disparity, plus age old 'men will fuck anything'.could not agree more you have to have something that sells ie your face body cock and if you are blessed all 3 , it does not matter how bland your profile is if they fancy you

I didn’t know we evaluated cattle on their beauty....

I don’t look at a girl who I find attractive and say to myself “I bet she’s a really great,kind person”, no, I think about how I’d want to have sex with her...to put it lightly.

Pumpkin?? Hahah, okay Darlin...Whatever you say princess x

So you’re upset at someone giving someone a number out of ten? Why is it any better to say you find someone attractive, unattractive or everything and anything in between? It’s all measured by some kind of metric. You just happen to not like the metric someone else used. It’s you who is associating something bad with it.

If someone said I was a 2/10, that would imply I’m unattractive, even ugly, if they say “2” or “ugly” they’re both describing the same thing.

And like I said before, we don’t evaluate cattle on their beauty or lack of. It’s a silly analogy.

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By *adInLiverpool OP Man
over a year ago

LIVERPOOL

"Maybe I'm thinking differntly, but I always think it's easier to meet someone at a social. Men who may think it's to hard to get a meet should try it if they can. For me a personality always shines through. It's not always about looks for me. I know you'll all be rolling your eyes when I say this.....but I actually like men who can make me smile. I've met some really nice men at socials who on paper I might not have had a connection with....just saying....."

Thanks for your input, also, great ass! I’d love to get to know it....I mean...you....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is a recreational sex site. On the whole people meet for casual sex trying to analyse it or make sense of the reasons for being a member is an utter waste of time.

The social side of the environment is simply a means to the end!

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By *adInLiverpool OP Man
over a year ago

LIVERPOOL

"This is a recreational sex site. On the whole people meet for casual sex trying to analyse it or make sense of the reasons for being a member is an utter waste of time.

The social side of the environment is simply a means to the end!"

Good point!

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"I’ve read a few long lists of everything a single guy should do on here, and with all due respect girls (can’t speak for couples it’s a different dynamic) let’s be honest.

He probably doesn’t even need to message most of the time.

Those “lists” are mostly to thin out the herd, because like we all know, couples and women on here, their inboxes are absolutely full to the brim with messages, so I understand.

Lads get to the gym, offer something that’ll excite her and show her a good time.

And if you do find someone you genuinely get on well with on here, that’s great, but let’s be honest about why we’re all on here.....

Rejection is the name of the game for guys, so this is not a complaint, just stating how it is and trying to be as honest as I can.

And yeah, I need improvement like everyone else and that’s what I’m doing.

Don’t hate on me too much, it’s all said outta love.

As advice threads go I think this is about as condescending as I have ever seen one…. And I have been here quite a while

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is a recreational sex site. On the whole people meet for casual sex trying to analyse it or make sense of the reasons for being a member is an utter waste of time.

The social side of the environment is simply a means to the end!"

You signed up two weeks ago, and that’s your professional assessment is it?

You know NOTHING John Snow

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton

"This is a recreational sex site. On the whole people meet for casual sex trying to analyse it or make sense of the reasons for being a member is an utter waste of time.

The social side of the environment is simply a means to the end!"

This is a big bear for me. It’s not a sex site or a “recreational sex site”, it’s a swingers site.

This is why single men outnumber women 1000/1. This is why women’s inboxes get flooded with “fuck me now” messages. They come here thinking that they’re entitled to any pussy they want.

Then women, and couples, get sick of it and leave.

Read up what swinging actually is and see if your opinion of a “recreational sex site” changes.

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By *heNYCSausageMan
over a year ago

Everton

"This is a recreational sex site. On the whole people meet for casual sex trying to analyse it or make sense of the reasons for being a member is an utter waste of time.

The social side of the environment is simply a means to the end!"

As a side note, really enjoyed reading your bio haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is a recreational sex site. On the whole people meet for casual sex trying to analyse it or make sense of the reasons for being a member is an utter waste of time.

The social side of the environment is simply a means to the end!

As a side note, really enjoyed reading your bio haha"

Like it or not it is a sex site mr sausauge new york guy. People come here for sex just like you do. Yes there are proper swingers but most are here for the same thing and as the guy said a social for most is a means to a end. I personelly dont have the time for the circus that is socials but each to ones own. I read you drove a good few miles to see a girl and i bet it wasnt to see her stamp collection

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By *inkyKittyWoman
over a year ago

Swindon

Yes we are here because we love sex!!!

BUT

Don’t send me a message of… “let me distroy that pussy”

“I’m in your area, and looking for a quick fuck”

I’m still a human, and don’t want to feel used just for your pleasure!!!

In my opinion, if you want that kind of play, go and pay for it.

I want to be respected as a human, then get down and dirty lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What I get from the the original post in this thread is the OP essentially blaming everyone and everything for his lack of success, or perhaps more specifically, for the lack of success of those who have thus far been unable to get a meet.

It's not an attractive quality.

Fab is not a numbers game. This has been discussed at length on other threads.

It doesn't matter if there are 100 or 10,000 men for a lady to choose from, if she doesn't fancy you, it wouldn't matter if you were the only single guy on here.

Most of the threads asking for help or advice on imprivingnprisoects come from guys whose profiles leave a lot to be desired. A handful of words and, if you're lucky, one or two pics, usually cock pics.

Not everyone is looking for an Adonis. Some women, a lot of women, actually prefer a Dad bod.

It's not always a matter of having a huge cock either.

What people are looking for varies, but essentially there has to be a spark of some sort.

They will want to know what you have to offer. They need to be able to imagine what an encounter with you will be like.

They need to feel confident that you know what you're doing and that they are going to have a fantastic time with you.

Sending a message that's little more than 'Hi' isn't goingbto give them that information

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bullshit

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

Lmao..peole who come out with shit like this are exactly the kind of people most women do their best to aviod and just screams "I'm not getting any" Best bit? They just don't understand why.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"This advice is meaningless. If the women on here don't fancy you, you're buggered. A 4/10 woman can have a pick of very good looking, fit,hung men, due to extreme choice disparity, plus age old 'men will fuck anything'.could not agree more you have to have something that sells ie your face body cock and if you are blessed all 3 , it does not matter how bland your profile is if they fancy you "

A personalty maybe.

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By *adInLiverpool OP Man
over a year ago

LIVERPOOL

"What I get from the the original post in this thread is the OP essentially blaming everyone and everything for his lack of success, or perhaps more specifically, for the lack of success of those who have thus far been unable to get a meet.

It's not an attractive quality.

Fab is not a numbers game. This has been discussed at length on other threads.

It doesn't matter if there are 100 or 10,000 men for a lady to choose from, if she doesn't fancy you, it wouldn't matter if you were the only single guy on here.

Not everyone is looking for an Adonis. Some women, a lot of women, actually prefer a Dad bod.

It's not always a matter of having a huge cock either.

What people are looking for varies, but essentially there has to be a spark of some sort.

They will want to know what you have to offer. They need to be able to imagine what an encounter with you will be like.

They need to feel confident that you know what you're doing and that they are going to have a fantastic time with you.

Sending a message that's little more than 'Hi' isn't goingbto give them that information"

Blaming? I told guys that they should present themselves the best they can, and then went on to talk about things that are out of their control, which I didn’t blame on anyone, they just are, things that just are, are of no fault of anyone. Basically, self accountability, improvement.

I think you misunderstood what I meant by “numbers game” you read it as, the women choosing from the men, I wrote it as in, the men approaching women.

Two very different things.

Everything else you said, I can mostly agree with.

When I said “Lads get to the gym, offer something that’ll excite her and show her a good time.” Is pretty much the same as something you said, you just said that she needs to know you can offer her that good time.

I also acknowledged how irritating it must be having a full inbox, talked about how rejection is nothing to complain about and talked about how self improvement is a good thing.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

It's not an attractive quality.

Fab is not a numbers game. This has been discussed at length on other threads.

It doesn't matter if there are 100 or 10,000 men for a lady to choose from, if she doesn't fancy you, it wouldn't matter if you were the only single guy on here.

Not everyone is looking for an Adonis. Some women, a lot of women, actually prefer a Dad bod.

It's not always a matter of having a huge cock either.

What people are looking for varies, but essentially there has to be a spark of some sort.

They will want to know what you have to offer. They need to be able to imagine what an encounter with you will be like.

They need to feel confident that you know what you're doing and that they are going to have a fantastic time with you.

Sending a message that's little more than 'Hi' isn't goingbto give them that information

I think you misunderstood what I meant by “numbers game” you read it as, the women choosing from the men, I wrote it as in, the men approaching women.

Two very different things.

Everything else you said, I can mostly agree with.

I also acknowledged how irritating it must be having a full inbox, talked about how rejection is nothing to complain about and talked about how self improvement is a good thing."

That sounds more to me like you telling people they need to change themselves. Go to the, what about their hair, clothes, music, food tastes..should they change all thst to?

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

Go to to gym I mean..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is a recreational sex site. On the whole people meet for casual sex trying to analyse it or make sense of the reasons for being a member is an utter waste of time.

The social side of the environment is simply a means to the end!

You signed up two weeks ago, and that’s your professional assessment is it?

You know NOTHING John Snow

I would be interested to know why you think I no nothing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is a recreational sex site. On the whole people meet for casual sex trying to analyse it or make sense of the reasons for being a member is an utter waste of time.

The social side of the environment is simply a means to the end!

This is a big bear for me. It’s not a sex site or a “recreational sex site”, it’s a swingers site.

This is why single men outnumber women 1000/1. This is why women’s inboxes get flooded with “fuck me now” messages. They come here thinking that they’re entitled to any pussy they want.

Then women, and couples, get sick of it and leave.

Read up what swinging actually is and see if your opinion of a “recreational sex site” changes. "

I looked at various definitions of the term Swingers, swinging and lifestyle the latter seemingly the overarching description. From that little bit of research I can find no reason to change my opinion.

Are those who are single and on this site classed as Swingers? The definitions I have turned up refer to Swingers, in the main as being partnered or married. The Stossel investigative report , into the “lifestyle” published in 2005 almost exclusively focuses on married couples and their sexual relationship with others.

As The fab majority are single men then it seems to me the description of a recreational sex site seems appropriate and not offensive in the slightest?t

As to the standard of communication between members I am afraid that is just a reflection on the make up of the membership. Sometimes people have difficulty in articulating their intentions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is a recreational sex site. On the whole people meet for casual sex trying to analyse it or make sense of the reasons for being a member is an utter waste of time.

The social side of the environment is simply a means to the end!

As a side note, really enjoyed reading your bio haha

Philately has its benefits or am I mixing up fellatio? Either way both activities require licking in some shape or form!

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By *lamorousBeautyLondonWoman
over a year ago

London

"This advice is meaningless. If the women on here don't fancy you, you're buggered. A 4/10 woman can have a pick of very good looking, fit,hung men, due to extreme choice disparity, plus age old 'men will fuck anything'.could not agree more you have to have something that sells ie your face body cock and if you are blessed all 3 , it does not matter how bland your profile is if they fancy you

I didn’t know we evaluated cattle on their beauty....

I don’t look at a girl who I find attractive and say to myself “I bet she’s a really great,kind person”, no, I think about how I’d want to have sex with her...to put it lightly.

Pumpkin?? Hahah, okay Darlin...Whatever you say princess x

If someone said I was a 2/10, that would imply I’m unattractive, even ugly, if they say “2” or “ugly” they’re both describing the same thing.

And like I said before, we don’t evaluate cattle on their beauty or lack of. It’s a silly analogy. "

Doesn't feel so good to be patronised, does it? Yet you seemed to be at ease to patronise me...

Too bad that you do not like my analogy, I am perfectly happy with it. If you choose not to understand my point, there is nothing further to add, it's your choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This advice is meaningless. If the women on here don't fancy you, you're buggered. A 4/10 woman can have a pick of very good looking, fit,hung men, due to extreme choice disparity, plus age old 'men will fuck anything'.could not agree more you have to have something that sells ie your face body cock and if you are blessed all 3 , it does not matter how bland your profile is if they fancy you

I didn’t know we evaluated cattle on their beauty....

I don’t look at a girl who I find attractive and say to myself “I bet she’s a really great,kind person”, no, I think about how I’d want to have sex with her...to put it lightly.

Oops! Think you lost your credibility when you called her ‘darling’

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