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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. " Absolutely, bravo... nobody knows the reasons apart from the person or persons involved. Too many narrow minded and sanctimonious peeps with time to type rubbish in here. Live and let live. Who are we to judge? | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. Absolutely, bravo... nobody knows the reasons apart from the person or persons involved. Too many narrow minded and sanctimonious peeps with time to type rubbish in here. Live and let live. Who are we to judge? " Well you've just judged people to be sanctimonious and narrow minded  | |||
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"What is interesting is the Israeli government funds the scheme. " Yes we long as they don't employ married women  which I found ironic as married men use it. | |||
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"What is interesting is the Israeli government funds the scheme. Yes we long as they don't employ married women which I found ironic as married men use it."Well spotted ! | |||
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"What is interesting is the Israeli government funds the scheme. Yes we long as they don't employ married women which I found ironic as married men use it.
Well spotted !"It's a step in the right direction though and as far as I know, no such scheme exists here | |||
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" It's a step in the right direction though and as far as I know, no such scheme exists here" The Netherlands has an authorised list of accredited sex workers for disabled people if they request it. | |||
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" It's a step in the right direction though and as far as I know, no such scheme exists here The Netherlands has an authorised list of accredited sex workers for disabled people if they request it." So I understand. I can't see it happening here, disgusted of Tunbridge Wells would surely object | |||
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"https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-56737828 I've actually helped men come back from depression and soldiers from PTSD. Having a non judgmental person to talk to who you can fuck and can give you pleasure and make you cum can work wonders on men's psychology. Also soldiers with missing limbs. Youd be surprised the angles they can reach and the pleasure on their face when they make a girl cum for first time since injury. Like a validation and realisation that they still have it. " I realise now that I've misunderstood the original post. This article was fascinating and I can really see how sex therapy would be a big part of rehabilitation. In the UK healthcare we talk about holistic care (caring for the whole person) but gloss over their sexual identity. | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. Absolutely, bravo... nobody knows the reasons apart from the person or persons involved. Too many narrow minded and sanctimonious peeps with time to type rubbish in here. Live and let live. Who are we to judge? " I don't think I am narrow minded and I'm certainly not sanctimonious, also find your comment a tad ironic. I understand people seek sexual pleasure for various reasons, some are above board, some aren't. It's their choice just as it's my choice not to want involved with someone who is attached. What I can't get my head round is the comments like yours which come across as quite narrow minded. People like me who try to avoid married people have just as valid reasons for doing so and no amount of name calling will change that. | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. Absolutely, bravo... nobody knows the reasons apart from the person or persons involved. Too many narrow minded and sanctimonious peeps with time to type rubbish in here. Live and let live. Who are we to judge? Well you've just judged people to be sanctimonious and narrow minded "Oh come on, seriously, why defend such people? You must be the one that has too much time to type rubbish!  | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. Absolutely, bravo... nobody knows the reasons apart from the person or persons involved. Too many narrow minded and sanctimonious peeps with time to type rubbish in here. Live and let live. Who are we to judge? I don't think I am narrow minded and I'm certainly not sanctimonious, also find your comment a tad ironic. I understand people seek sexual pleasure for various reasons, some are above board, some aren't. It's their choice just as it's my choice not to want involved with someone who is attached. What I can't get my head round is the comments like yours which come across as quite narrow minded. People like me who try to avoid married people have just as valid reasons for doing so and no amount of name calling will change that. " Your choices are fine, your argument solid, if you don’t want to get involved then don’t. That’s great, seriously awesome, but it’s the others that seem to want to impose their beliefs and are so self righteous it’s puke worthy. I cannot understand why we can’t all just get on? Some like red cars, some like blue cars, there isn’t a wrong choice but there is a wrong way to react to the choice of colour they make. | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. Absolutely, bravo... nobody knows the reasons apart from the person or persons involved. Too many narrow minded and sanctimonious peeps with time to type rubbish in here. Live and let live. Who are we to judge? Well you've just judged people to be sanctimonious and narrow minded
Oh come on, seriously, why defend such people? You must be the one that has too much time to type rubbish!
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. Absolutely, bravo... nobody knows the reasons apart from the person or persons involved. Too many narrow minded and sanctimonious peeps with time to type rubbish in here. Live and let live. Who are we to judge? I don't think I am narrow minded and I'm certainly not sanctimonious, also find your comment a tad ironic. I understand people seek sexual pleasure for various reasons, some are above board, some aren't. It's their choice just as it's my choice not to want involved with someone who is attached. What I can't get my head round is the comments like yours which come across as quite narrow minded. People like me who try to avoid married people have just as valid reasons for doing so and no amount of name calling will change that. Your choices are fine, your argument solid, if you don’t want to get involved then don’t. That’s great, seriously awesome, but it’s the others that seem to want to impose their beliefs and are so self righteous it’s puke worthy. I cannot understand why we can’t all just get on? Some like red cars, some like blue cars, there isn’t a wrong choice but there is a wrong way to react to the choice of colour they make. " Yet you attack them  | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. Absolutely, bravo... nobody knows the reasons apart from the person or persons involved. Too many narrow minded and sanctimonious peeps with time to type rubbish in here. Live and let live. Who are we to judge? I don't think I am narrow minded and I'm certainly not sanctimonious, also find your comment a tad ironic. I understand people seek sexual pleasure for various reasons, some are above board, some aren't. It's their choice just as it's my choice not to want involved with someone who is attached. What I can't get my head round is the comments like yours which come across as quite narrow minded. People like me who try to avoid married people have just as valid reasons for doing so and no amount of name calling will change that. Your choices are fine, your argument solid, if you don’t want to get involved then don’t. That’s great, seriously awesome, but it’s the others that seem to want to impose their beliefs and are so self righteous it’s puke worthy. I cannot understand why we can’t all just get on? Some like red cars, some like blue cars, there isn’t a wrong choice but there is a wrong way to react to the choice of colour they make. Yet you attack them "Eh? I want us all to get on, yet you seem determined to try and put me down for some reason? Why? If you read my first post I was entirely agreeing with the OP, life isn’t black and white for some people, if it is for others then great but too many people in here are spiteful, narrow minded and go looking for a keyboard fight when they would be better off removing their blinkered vision and putting their fingers to work to ease suffering instead of adding to the worlds woes. | |||
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"I remember the News of the World running a "shock story" of how Prof Stephen Hawkings had paid for a naked lap dance. When asked for comment he replied "yes I did. So what?" Are disabled people not supposed to have sexual feelings ?" The number of weird and abusive messages we get about my wheelchair use? You'd be surprised. Or possibly not..... | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. Absolutely, bravo... nobody knows the reasons apart from the person or persons involved. Too many narrow minded and sanctimonious peeps with time to type rubbish in here. Live and let live. Who are we to judge? I don't think I am narrow minded and I'm certainly not sanctimonious, also find your comment a tad ironic. I understand people seek sexual pleasure for various reasons, some are above board, some aren't. It's their choice just as it's my choice not to want involved with someone who is attached. What I can't get my head round is the comments like yours which come across as quite narrow minded. People like me who try to avoid married people have just as valid reasons for doing so and no amount of name calling will change that. Your choices are fine, your argument solid, if you don’t want to get involved then don’t. That’s great, seriously awesome, but it’s the others that seem to want to impose their beliefs and are so self righteous it’s puke worthy. I cannot understand why we can’t all just get on? Some like red cars, some like blue cars, there isn’t a wrong choice but there is a wrong way to react to the choice of colour they make. Yet you attack them
Eh? I want us all to get on, yet you seem determined to try and put me down for some reason? Why?
If you read my first post I was entirely agreeing with the OP, life isn’t black and white for some people, if it is for others then great but too many people in here are spiteful, narrow minded and go looking for a keyboard fight when they would be better off removing their blinkered vision and putting their fingers to work to ease suffering instead of adding to the worlds woes.
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. Absolutely, bravo... nobody knows the reasons apart from the person or persons involved. Too many narrow minded and sanctimonious peeps with time to type rubbish in here. Live and let live. Who are we to judge? I don't think I am narrow minded and I'm certainly not sanctimonious, also find your comment a tad ironic. I understand people seek sexual pleasure for various reasons, some are above board, some aren't. It's their choice just as it's my choice not to want involved with someone who is attached. What I can't get my head round is the comments like yours which come across as quite narrow minded. People like me who try to avoid married people have just as valid reasons for doing so and no amount of name calling will change that. Your choices are fine, your argument solid, if you don’t want to get involved then don’t. That’s great, seriously awesome, but it’s the others that seem to want to impose their beliefs and are so self righteous it’s puke worthy. I cannot understand why we can’t all just get on? Some like red cars, some like blue cars, there isn’t a wrong choice but there is a wrong way to react to the choice of colour they make. Yet you attack them
Eh? I want us all to get on, yet you seem determined to try and put me down for some reason? Why?
If you read my first post I was entirely agreeing with the OP, life isn’t black and white for some people, if it is for others then great but too many people in here are spiteful, narrow minded and go looking for a keyboard fight when they would be better off removing their blinkered vision and putting their fingers to work to ease suffering instead of adding to the worlds woes.
"LOL you're the only one name-calling and putting people down though, that's my point but.... Leave you to it as you're not taking it on board  | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. Absolutely, bravo... nobody knows the reasons apart from the person or persons involved. Too many narrow minded and sanctimonious peeps with time to type rubbish in here. Live and let live. Who are we to judge? I don't think I am narrow minded and I'm certainly not sanctimonious, also find your comment a tad ironic. I understand people seek sexual pleasure for various reasons, some are above board, some aren't. It's their choice just as it's my choice not to want involved with someone who is attached. What I can't get my head round is the comments like yours which come across as quite narrow minded. People like me who try to avoid married people have just as valid reasons for doing so and no amount of name calling will change that. Your choices are fine, your argument solid, if you don’t want to get involved then don’t. That’s great, seriously awesome, but it’s the others that seem to want to impose their beliefs and are so self righteous it’s puke worthy. I cannot understand why we can’t all just get on? Some like red cars, some like blue cars, there isn’t a wrong choice but there is a wrong way to react to the choice of colour they make. Yet you attack them
Eh? I want us all to get on, yet you seem determined to try and put me down for some reason? Why?
If you read my first post I was entirely agreeing with the OP, life isn’t black and white for some people, if it is for others then great but too many people in here are spiteful, narrow minded and go looking for a keyboard fight when they would be better off removing their blinkered vision and putting their fingers to work to ease suffering instead of adding to the worlds woes.
LOL you're the only one name-calling and putting people down though, that's my point but.... Leave you to it as you're not taking it on board "You could cause bother in an empty house. I will leave it to you now too. Let you go and keyboard attack some other victim by going completely off topic and pursuing your own strange agenda. Good day to you. | |||
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" It's a step in the right direction though and as far as I know, no such scheme exists here The Netherlands has an authorised list of accredited sex workers for disabled people if they request it. So I understand. I can't see it happening here, disgusted of Tunbridge Wells would surely object" This service is available from TLC here in the UK. TLC are an offshoot of the Outsiders Trust  | |||
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" This service is available from TLC here in the UK. TLC are an offshoot of the Outsiders Trust "Great to hear this | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. " But surely the point of a sex surrogate is a consensual understanding between both partners that one of them can seek sex elsewhere, and not that one of them does it behind the others back which is what you seem to find here on fab. There are those married people who make it clear they have their partners consent to meet others, while some don’t. Given swinging is not a paid for service or therapy, but a personal choice to spend social time with other likeminded people (likeminded being the operative word), why is it wrong for people to “judge” those who cheat on their partners in that way? | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. Absolutely, bravo... nobody knows the reasons apart from the person or persons involved. Too many narrow minded and sanctimonious peeps with time to type rubbish in here. Live and let live. Who are we to judge? I don't think I am narrow minded and I'm certainly not sanctimonious, also find your comment a tad ironic. I understand people seek sexual pleasure for various reasons, some are above board, some aren't. It's their choice just as it's my choice not to want involved with someone who is attached. What I can't get my head round is the comments like yours which come across as quite narrow minded. People like me who try to avoid married people have just as valid reasons for doing so and no amount of name calling will change that. " This ... deceit is wrong. Ethical non monogamy is not. HUGE HUGE difference ... if me not wanting to get involved with men who lie and cheat on the one person they profess to love makes me narrow minded then I’m happy with that. | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. But surely the point of a sex surrogate is a consensual understanding between both partners that one of them can seek sex elsewhere, and not that one of them does it behind the others back which is what you seem to find here on fab. There are those married people who make it clear they have their partners consent to meet others, while some don’t. Given swinging is not a paid for service or therapy, but a personal choice to spend social time with other likeminded people (likeminded being the operative word), why is it wrong for people to “judge” those who cheat on their partners in that way?" This ... | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. But surely the point of a sex surrogate is a consensual understanding between both partners that one of them can seek sex elsewhere, and not that one of them does it behind the others back which is what you seem to find here on fab. There are those married people who make it clear they have their partners consent to meet others, while some don’t. Given swinging is not a paid for service or therapy, but a personal choice to spend social time with other likeminded people (likeminded being the operative word), why is it wrong for people to “judge” those who cheat on their partners in that way?" Glad you got here before I did, saved me some time. I will continue to judge people who are cheating on their partners on a swingers website. I hate having to constantly questions a person's true intentions because people aren't willing to take time and have a conversation with their partner | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. Absolutely, bravo... nobody knows the reasons apart from the person or persons involved. Too many narrow minded and sanctimonious peeps with time to type rubbish in here. Live and let live. Who are we to judge? Well you've just judged people to be sanctimonious and narrow minded "This made me lol. | |||
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"I have done this for a couple. The Mrs was out of action due to illness and was fully on board with her husband having sex. Chatted to them both for ages, and she even brought us a half-time cuppa! It was a slightly unusual meet, but good. " I think we all need friends like you jellyjiggles | |||
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"I'm not sure why 'who are we to judge?' has caused such a problem to be honest. It is/was potentially quite an interesting topic of discussion that didn't really need derailing by picking on words. I didn't read it as anything more than a rhetorical question, and it's a pretty common one at that. Reading into it that it's calling people sanctimonious and whatever else just seems to be looking for a meaning that [I don't think] was there, for the sake of making a point." At last, someone who actually gets what I wrote!! If I say there are too many murders committed , I am not judging, if I say you are a murderer then I am judging. I have no aspersions that I was judging anyone, I don’t care what people do as they have their own reasons to do it or not as they see fit. What is unkind is when people jump on these forums and read part of a sentence and twist it to suit their own ends, or become abusive and get a kick out of being all high and mighty. This is not a judgement by the way, just a social observation. Oh if only we were all perfect eh, but then the moaners and the ones who seem to live in glass houses would have nothing to bitch about to make their own little space in this world seem better than what others have. It can be a sad world, I try and say live and let live as I have no idea what is actually going on in people’s lives, emotions and inner circle and therefore .... who are we to judge? | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. " I think as long as everyone is fully aware and knows what’s happening, then absolutely crack on! I’ve made lots of friends on here in what I’d describe as different types of relationships. As long as there’s no lying and cheating or sneaking, do what makes you happy x | |||
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"I have done this for a couple. The Mrs was out of action due to illness and was fully on board with her husband having sex. Chatted to them both for ages, and she even brought us a half-time cuppa! It was a slightly unusual meet, but good. " Had the same thing with a few couples going back a while. One became quite regular...they would come to mine. Myself and the lady headed upstairs....he headed for the kitchen to have a brew...he knew where I kept everything. | |||
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. Absolutely, bravo... nobody knows the reasons apart from the person or persons involved. Too many narrow minded and sanctimonious peeps with time to type rubbish in here. Live and let live. Who are we to judge? I don't think I am narrow minded and I'm certainly not sanctimonious, also find your comment a tad ironic. I understand people seek sexual pleasure for various reasons, some are above board, some aren't. It's their choice just as it's my choice not to want involved with someone who is attached. What I can't get my head round is the comments like yours which come across as quite narrow minded. People like me who try to avoid married people have just as valid reasons for doing so and no amount of name calling will change that. Your choices are fine, your argument solid, if you don’t want to get involved then don’t. That’s great, seriously awesome, but it’s the others that seem to want to impose their beliefs and are so self righteous it’s puke worthy. I cannot understand why we can’t all just get on? Some like red cars, some like blue cars, there isn’t a wrong choice but there is a wrong way to react to the choice of colour they make. Yet you attack them
Eh? I want us all to get on, yet you seem determined to try and put me down for some reason? Why?
If you read my first post I was entirely agreeing with the OP, life isn’t black and white for some people, if it is for others then great but too many people in here are spiteful, narrow minded and go looking for a keyboard fight when they would be better off removing their blinkered vision and putting their fingers to work to ease suffering instead of adding to the worlds woes.
I think the problem might be with your question
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"Very interesting story in the popular news media today. I think this is something that isn’t recognised easily as to why some people choose to come on to fab. If your sex life has stalled due to health, relationship issues or other reasons it can lead to a decision to take matters into your own hands and seek a sexual connection. Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to judge when looking at profiles. But surely the point of a sex surrogate is a consensual understanding between both partners that one of them can seek sex elsewhere, and not that one of them does it behind the others back which is what you seem to find here on fab. There are those married people who make it clear they have their partners consent to meet others, while some don’t. Given swinging is not a paid for service or therapy, but a personal choice to spend social time with other likeminded people (likeminded being the operative word), why is it wrong for people to “judge” those who cheat on their partners in that way?" Why is it necessary to judge? You can take a position to meet or not to meet. Everyone has that choice and everyone has their reasons for making that choice. But I don't understand why so many people feel the need to pass 'judgement'. | |||
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" Given swinging is not a paid for service or therapy, but a personal choice to spend social time with other likeminded people (likeminded being the operative word), why is it wrong for people to “judge” those who cheat on their partners in that way? Why is it necessary to judge? You can take a position to meet or not to meet. Everyone has that choice and everyone has their reasons for making that choice. But I don't understand why so many people feel the need to pass 'judgement'. " Bravo, well said, beware though you might get slated by the judgemental police. They are poised with their wee trouble causing typo fingers waiting for another victim. Lol. If we could all just get on wouldn’t then the world be a nicer and happier place? | |||
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" Given swinging is not a paid for service or therapy, but a personal choice to spend social time with other likeminded people (likeminded being the operative word), why is it wrong for people to “judge” those who cheat on their partners in that way? Why is it necessary to judge? You can take a position to meet or not to meet. Everyone has that choice and everyone has their reasons for making that choice. But I don't understand why so many people feel the need to pass 'judgement'. Bravo, well said, beware though you might get slated by the judgemental police. They are poised with their wee trouble causing typo fingers waiting for another victim. Lol. If we could all just get on wouldn’t then the world be a nicer and happier place? " Exactly, why not just ignore? I’m clear about what I want on my profile. If someone doesn’t meet that in the relationship department (as in they aren’t single) I just ignore. I don’t then lecture them about my opinions on it, some people have weird logic haha. | |||
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