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"he wont use his cock but will use a strapon?" I think you might struggle on a site like Fab for this sort of thing. Have you looked at transgender sites? | |||
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"and he is totally happy with his male body just he is attracted to bi/lesbian girls but usually not straight girls " Pardon me for being rude....but he's just a regular guy. Any old guy. Proof? Round up lads. Hands up who is more attracted to bi and lesbian ladies? *counts* Yup that's about 90% of the guys in the world. Sorry if I sound facetious, but come on.... ![]() | |||
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"and he is totally happy with his male body just he is attracted to bi/lesbian girls but usually not straight girls " well theres a surprise, i just found out whats been wrong with me all these years , im also attracted to 2 women especially bi ones, who will let my have my way with them ![]() | |||
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"I don't really see how anyone could reasonably say he's being sneaky or trying to trick people. He's not pretending to be a girl. You're being open about what who you are and what you're looking for. If people are still being funny, then forget them, they're probably idiots and not going to be worth playing with anyway! Good luck!" I am not an idiot thank you. Actually I googled this lesbian identified male and I also remember the term coming up on The L Word. Nobody is suggesting he's sneaky. I personally find it funny that guys have come up with a PC way of pursuing bi and lesbian women. That isn't sneaky, it's innovative. It is still, however, a total load of bollocks. | |||
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"Pardon me for being rude....but he's just a regular guy. Any old guy. Proof? Round up lads. Hands up who is more attracted to bi and lesbian ladies? *counts* Yup that's about 90% of the guys in the world." Gender and sexuality issues can be really complicated. If he identifies as a male lesbian, why not? There's a difference between liking bi girls and wanting to give them a damn hard fucking (as I would!) and wanting to play with them in a girlie manner. Don't see why you feel the need to try and dismiss it when neither you nor I know what the scenario is. | |||
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"It is still, however, a total load of bollocks." Transgenderisnm isn't 'bollocks'. The guy identifies as a gay woman who wants to meet gay women. I don't see a problem with that. I just think they are on the wrong site for that sort of thing. | |||
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"It is still, however, a total load of bollocks. Transgenderisnm isn't 'bollocks'. The guy identifies as a gay woman who wants to meet gay women. I don't see a problem with that. I just think they are on the wrong site for that sort of thing." He is not trans. They said that themselves. I have trans friends and would never say that is bollocks. However a guy who prefers lesbians and bi women and then calls it a name is talking bollocks....that is just a guy. | |||
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"I don't really see how anyone could reasonably say he's being sneaky or trying to trick people. He's not pretending to be a girl. You're being open about what who you are and what you're looking for. If people are still being funny, then forget them, they're probably idiots and not going to be worth playing with anyway! Good luck! I am not an idiot thank you. Actually I googled this lesbian identified male and I also remember the term coming up on The L Word. Nobody is suggesting he's sneaky. I personally find it funny that guys have come up with a PC way of pursuing bi and lesbian women. That isn't sneaky, it's innovative. It is still, however, a total load of bollocks." In the OP his female friend said people think he's being sneaky. That's what I was referring to. You keep up the judgmental attitude though, its really nice. | |||
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"It is still, however, a total load of bollocks. Transgenderisnm isn't 'bollocks'. The guy identifies as a gay woman who wants to meet gay women. I don't see a problem with that. I just think they are on the wrong site for that sort of thing. He is not trans. They said that themselves. I have trans friends and would never say that is bollocks. However a guy who prefers lesbians and bi women and then calls it a name is talking bollocks....that is just a guy." I agree that the OP states that he still plays as a guy, but it does sound like he ids as a gay woman. The fact he uses his cock is odd but he hasn't actually posted here himself so nothing is certain. | |||
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"I don't really see how anyone could reasonably say he's being sneaky or trying to trick people. He's not pretending to be a girl. You're being open about what who you are and what you're looking for. If people are still being funny, then forget them, they're probably idiots and not going to be worth playing with anyway! Good luck! I am not an idiot thank you. Actually I googled this lesbian identified male and I also remember the term coming up on The L Word. Nobody is suggesting he's sneaky. I personally find it funny that guys have come up with a PC way of pursuing bi and lesbian women. That isn't sneaky, it's innovative. It is still, however, a total load of bollocks. In the OP his female friend said people think he's being sneaky. That's what I was referring to. You keep up the judgmental attitude though, its really nice." I wasn't judging him. I just find it funny. Chill out. | |||
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"It is still, however, a total load of bollocks. Transgenderisnm isn't 'bollocks'. The guy identifies as a gay woman who wants to meet gay women. I don't see a problem with that. I just think they are on the wrong site for that sort of thing. He is not trans. They said that themselves. I have trans friends and would never say that is bollocks. However a guy who prefers lesbians and bi women and then calls it a name is talking bollocks....that is just a guy. I agree that the OP states that he still plays as a guy, but it does sound like he ids as a gay woman. The fact he uses his cock is odd but he hasn't actually posted here himself so nothing is certain." To be fair, you have a point there. That said, I was going on what they said and that was that he identifies as biologically male and he was also born male. This does not place him as trans. I am aware that there are grey areas here. However, I cannot see how the guydyke and girlfag (I wiki'ed them) are not jst a gimmick name. I like bi guys, but this does not make me a girlfag...I'm just pervy about guy/guy. | |||
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"You decided to tell the guy his sexuality was a 'load of bollocks'. Might be funny to you, probably isn't to him. Perfectly chilled, thanks." Where was his sexuality mentioned? I believe I said that giving what guys regularly like a name and saying that he is different was a load of bollocks...and that is true. | |||
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"well i watched him with a bi-girl in the same room and the way he went about it he was way more gentle than a guy is usually. it was all cuddely, caring his eyes went all that girly way. when she touched him his legs buckled he went all giggly like a girl. it was all soft kissing, hugging, gentle very tender he didn't use a toy or his cock. if he is a guy he is the strangest guy on earth. " With all due respect, I have slept with guys like this. It tends to be bi guys from my experience. They seem to be more tender and behaved very differently to straight guys. For your other half's point of view, it's possible that he can see women from a woman's perspective, and that is great. I did not mean any disrespect and I do apologise if it came across that way. I found it a bit funny on first reading is all, on account of the fact that most guys prefer bi and lesbian women. | |||
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"well i watched him with a bi-girl in the same room and the way he went about it he was way more gentle than a guy is usually. it was all cuddely, caring his eyes went all that girly way. when she touched him his legs buckled he went all giggly like a girl. it was all soft kissing, hugging, gentle very tender he didn't use a toy or his cock. if he is a guy he is the strangest guy on earth. " First off, very creepy, you're describing the way I have sex... but I do use my cock and don't identify as a 'guydyke' I just call what I do being a 'nice guy' and being not being 'cock-focused' when it comes to sex | |||
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"With all due respect, I have slept with guys like this. It tends to be bi guys from my experience. They seem to be more tender and behaved very differently to straight guys. For your other half's point of view, it's possible that he can see women from a woman's perspective, and that is great. I did not mean any disrespect and I do apologise if it came across that way. I found it a bit funny on first reading is all, on account of the fact that most guys prefer bi and lesbian women." it's ok he's not bi he tried guys and he doesn't like that either. but he is extremely fem like a bi/gay guy however he is not attracted to men or straight girls. | |||
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"With all due respect, I have slept with guys like this. It tends to be bi guys from my experience. They seem to be more tender and behaved very differently to straight guys. For your other half's point of view, it's possible that he can see women from a woman's perspective, and that is great. I did not mean any disrespect and I do apologise if it came across that way. I found it a bit funny on first reading is all, on account of the fact that most guys prefer bi and lesbian women. it's ok he's not bi he tried guys and he doesn't like that either. but he is extremely fem like a bi/gay guy however he is not attracted to men or straight girls. " I don't like straight men. Haven't done for over a decade. I won't touch them. It's a preference. Don't try to label what he is, because he's still young and has plenty of time to grow into his own identity. | |||
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"we have been soft swapping so far, it seems to be working for him. but guys usually want to bang everything that moves so whats wrong with him. " There's nothing wrong with him, and he is probably not much different from other guys. I recommend you try just to meet bi fems as a couple. Don't use these new words to id him as most people won't understand what you mean, and by the time you explain they'll probably have gone. He sounds like a guy who is just a little more emotionally attached than most guys. | |||
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"yeah he's straight the only other solution we can think of is he is borderline asexual " Aces don't have sex. Have you looked at biromantic? | |||
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"Why so keen to put a label on a preference? Next week it could be you with butch gay rugby player types. Drop labels, and enjoy. " very true ![]() | |||
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"well i watched him with a bi-girl in the same room and the way he went about it he was way more gentle than a guy is usually. it was all cuddely, caring his eyes went all that girly way. when she touched him his legs buckled he went all giggly like a girl. it was all soft kissing, hugging, gentle very tender he didn't use a toy or his cock. if he is a guy he is the strangest guy on earth. First off, very creepy, you're describing the way I have sex... but I do use my cock and don't identify as a 'guydyke' I just call what I do being a 'nice guy' and being not being 'cock-focused' when it comes to sex" ![]() | |||
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"yes he's tried that one too lol he's been on a 27 year confusing journey to try and work himself out." I think you're just going to have to describe him as 'confused'. In the meantime I am sure all will be fine. | |||
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"With all due respect, I have slept with guys like this. It tends to be bi guys from my experience. They seem to be more tender and behaved very differently to straight guys. For your other half's point of view, it's possible that he can see women from a woman's perspective, and that is great. I did not mean any disrespect and I do apologise if it came across that way. I found it a bit funny on first reading is all, on account of the fact that most guys prefer bi and lesbian women. it's ok he's not bi he tried guys and he doesn't like that either. but he is extremely fem like a bi/gay guy however he is not attracted to men or straight girls. I don't like straight men. Haven't done for over a decade. I won't touch them. It's a preference. Don't try to label what he is, because he's still young and has plenty of time to grow into his own identity." When I was younger I was desperate to understand what 'label' I should have. I figured it out one day and felt much happier. So I totally understand why he would feel the need to have some kind of label. It's nice to feel you fit in somewhere. Possibly he could be pansexual? Or he could just fall somewhere along the grey line between hetero/ gay/ bi. Either way, it sounds like he's really lucky to have you (OP) as his girlfriend. xx | |||
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"would be alot easier to say human no im not trying to push him im just trying to help him feel like he fits in, thats all " Why should have to fit in why cant he just be happy with himself x | |||
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"we have been soft swapping so far, it seems to be working for him. but guys usually want to bang everything that moves so whats wrong with him. " That's not quite true. There's nothing 'wrong' with him. | |||
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"well i watched him with a bi-girl in the same room and the way he went about it he was way more gentle than a guy is usually. it was all cuddely, caring his eyes went all that girly way. when she touched him his legs buckled he went all giggly like a girl. This is clearly real! He's a guy who kinda wants to be a girl (traped in a guys body) and so he's a girl inside who's bi that's all...simples it was all soft kissing, hugging, gentle very tender he didn't use a toy or his cock. if he is a guy he is the strangest guy on earth. " | |||
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"well i watched him with a bi-girl in the same room and the way he went about it he was way more gentle than a guy is usually. it was all cuddely, caring his eyes went all that girly way. when she touched him his legs buckled he went all giggly like a girl. it was all soft kissing, hugging, gentle very tender he didn't use a toy or his cock. if he is a guy he is the strangest guy on earth. " You said it..... ![]() | |||
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"What a special little flower, best get some labels out for him so everyone can know exactly why hes special. Just sounds like a straight guy to me " ![]() | |||
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"but guys usually want to bang everything that moves so whats wrong with him. " There's nothing wrong with him and,if he can find the pleasure in life that he seeks, he can have a sexually fulfilling life. Androgyny is very healthy psychologically, and he may want to rate his personality on the Bem scale. We're all potentially a mix of 'feminine' and 'masculine' traits, and this may also be represented in our sexual selves. The labels seek to help some people where it helps them to crystalise their understanding into a simple term, but we're all so unique that it's near impossible to squash the billions of us into a few small categories. How we love to express ourselves sexually is a wonderfully personal thing, and we all find some people more on our wavelength than others. I can imagine that many females would love the tenderness of being affectionately caressed this way - it's just a matter of finding females for him who want reciprocal needs this way. Maybe he could provide some words for you, so he describes himself to us, if there's something we're missing. Sure there will be people out there for him, but less sure that it's going to be lesbians, as he's physically male in form. | |||
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" Androgynous: Having both male and female characteristics( appearance )that it becomes a challenge for one to decipher what sex that person is." That's what google tells me it is ![]() | |||
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" Androgynous: Having both male and female characteristics( appearance )that it becomes a challenge for one to decipher what sex that person is. That's what google tells me it is ![]() I have always found a 5 o clock shadow a defining characteristic of androgyny ! | |||
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"Well I am classified as androgynous and if you want to put me in a label then that's the one I feel closest to, for those of you that think of themselves as perfect and in a position to ridicule and judge others then I feel sorry that you don't appear educated enough to consider other humans feelings or emotions, xx ![]() Well said. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Well I am classified as androgynous and if you want to put me in a label then that's the one I feel closest to, for those of you that think of themselves as perfect and in a position to ridicule and judge others then I feel sorry that you don't appear educated enough to consider other humans feelings or emotions, xx ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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" Just sounds like a straight guy to me " Let me add to that, sounds like a straight guy who is acting "different" in order to impress the girls and it's clearly working on at least one. | |||
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"Well I am classified as androgynous and if you want to put me in a label then that's the one I feel closest to, for those of you that think of themselves as perfect and in a position to ridicule and judge others then I feel sorry that you don't appear educated enough to consider other humans feelings or emotions, xx ![]() The *what*? And who classified you as that? The government? | |||
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" The *what*? And who classified you as that? The government?" Well, if it's any of your business, the NHS and my gender psychologist ![]() | |||
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" but he is extremely fem like a bi/gay guy however he is not attracted to men or straight girls. " I'm sorry but you're trying to appear very open minded and supportive and you come out with a wholy inaccurate sweeping stereotypical generalization like that? | |||
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"Well I am classified as androgynous and if you want to put me in a label then that's the one I feel closest to, for those of you that think of themselves as perfect and in a position to ridicule and judge others then I feel sorry that you don't appear educated enough to consider other humans feelings or emotions, xx ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I know it's late and I've had a couple of beers, but this thread is REALLY making my head hurt...... ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"am I the only 1 thinking how is he getting gay women?! I thought if you were gay you liked vagina?!! it doesnt matter if u do things like a girl it comes down to 1 thing - your a man! " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Learning curve heh, OP? Posting in this liberal, open minded forum is like throwing raw steak to a pack of starving wolves. Him." I've already eaten tonight... ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I reckon all girls are at least a little bi curious." Erm . . . NO. I think that is male fantasy talking there. ![]() | |||
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"so, how do we prove he's not taking the p. " Overlooking what has been said on this topic. It's back to basics. Your profile makes poor reading. Turns you from a good looking couple looking for bi-females into a medical nightmare that is best avoided. You would be so much more successful just looking for soft swap with other couples with bi fem. save the reasons until you are friends with potential meets. | |||
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"am I the only 1 thinking how is he getting gay women?! I thought if you were gay you liked vagina?!! it doesnt matter if u do things like a girl it comes down to 1 thing - your a man! " Yes however some lesbians, so I have heard have anal sex, often with gay blokes ![]() | |||
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"we have been soft swapping so far, it seems to be working for him. but guys usually want to bang everything that moves so whats wrong with him. " There is nothing 'wrong' with him. I'd say he likes to please, being tactile and enjoying a womens body - I can identify with that and enjoy that without having to stick a penis anywhere. As long as you warn potential partners they might not be getting a hard fucking. | |||
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"am I the only 1 thinking how is he getting gay women?! I thought if you were gay you liked vagina?!! it doesnt matter if u do things like a girl it comes down to 1 thing - your a man! Yes however some lesbians, so I have heard have anal sex, often with gay blokes ![]() do they moan if you get the wrong hole...? ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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" Androgyny is very healthy psychologically, and he may want to rate his personality on the Bem scale. We're all potentially a mix of 'feminine' and 'masculine' traits, and this may also be represented in our sexual selves. " Hi, matt here on my solo account. weaveintothewin2 is our couple account I thought i'd come on here and talk cause i feel very lost in my gender/sexuality did an online bem test http://androgyne.0catch.com/gentest1.htm GENDER TRAITS SCORES Masculine -20 and under Nearly Masculine -19 to -10 Androgynous -9 to +9 Nearly feminine +9 to +19 Feminine +20 and over I scored 36 is this good or bad. | |||
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" Gains most enjoyment from visual stimulation and what he senses the females is feeling during play? " yeah that's sounds about right, I'm not really bothered about my own pleasure I get pleasure from watching a girls face getting pleasure if that makes sense | |||
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"am I the only 1 thinking how is he getting gay women?! I thought if you were gay you liked vagina?!! it doesnt matter if u do things like a girl it comes down to 1 thing - your a man! Yes however some lesbians, so I have heard have anal sex, often with gay blokes ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() tsk ![]() ![]() | |||
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" Androgyny is very healthy psychologically, and he may want to rate his personality on the Bem scale. We're all potentially a mix of 'feminine' and 'masculine' traits, and this may also be represented in our sexual selves. Hi, matt here on my solo account. weaveintothewin2 is our couple account I thought i'd come on here and talk cause i feel very lost in my gender/sexuality did an online bem test http://androgyne.0catch.com/gentest1.htm GENDER TRAITS SCORES Masculine -20 and under Nearly Masculine -19 to -10 Androgynous -9 to +9 Nearly feminine +9 to +19 Feminine +20 and over I scored 36 is this good or bad." Read the bit at the bottom again. Was it positive or negative 36? Depends on which column you scored more on, the 2nd or 3rd column. x | |||
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" Read the bit at the bottom again. Was it positive or negative 36? Depends on which column you scored more on, the 2nd or 3rd column. x" 65 in 2nd column 29 in 3rd column 65 - 29 = +36 so im + 36 | |||
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![]() " Androgyny is very healthy psychologically, and he may want to rate his personality on the Bem scale. We're all potentially a mix of 'feminine' and 'masculine' traits, and this may also be represented in our sexual selves. Hi, matt here on my solo account. weaveintothewin2 is our couple account I thought i'd come on here and talk cause i feel very lost in my gender/sexuality did an online bem test http://androgyne.0catch.com/gentest1.htm GENDER TRAITS SCORES Masculine -20 and under Nearly Masculine -19 to -10 Androgynous -9 to +9 Nearly feminine +9 to +19 Feminine +20 and over I scored 36 is this good or bad. Read the bit at the bottom again. Was it positive or negative 36? Depends on which column you scored more on, the 2nd or 3rd column. x" | |||
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" http://androgyne.0catch.com/gentest1.htm GENDER TRAITS SCORES Masculine -20 and under Nearly Masculine -19 to -10 Androgynous -9 to +9 Nearly Feminine +9 to +19 Feminine +20 and over " 55 - 41 = +14... which makes me Nearly Feminine ![]() | |||
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"Your partners post above says that you aren't into straight girls and yet she is straight. Isn't that a contradiction?" yeah but thats why all their verifications are from single guys..she gets her filling from elsewhere ![]() ![]() | |||
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"As a straight guy I actually prefer straight women. Bi women seem to come across more bitchy towards guys and bitchiness is a turn off." Errrrr what? | |||
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"As a straight guy I actually prefer straight women. Bi women seem to come across more bitchy towards guys and bitchiness is a turn off. Errrrr what?" I must admit I looked and thought that too Wolf ![]() | |||
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"As a straight guy I actually prefer straight women. Bi women seem to come across more bitchy towards guys and bitchiness is a turn off. Errrrr what?" The one opposing the OP was stating that most guys will say they prefer lesbians/bis to straight women. Not the case. Also from that i'm not banding everybody as the same but i've just found there's more general waspiness from the non-straight women towards guys but it might just be the specific ones i've come across. I know they're not all the same. | |||
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"my partner matt is having trouble finding someone. well matt, is and i know this is going to sound odd, but he's an androgynous guy and when he's with a girl its girl-girl. when he does it it looks and feels like two girls doing it and it's very hot xxx We had one bi-girl play with with and she loved it, she's been with girls obviously being bi and said with my eyes closed it's the same. he's attracted to girls like a girl is attracted to girls, but he's absolutely amazing in bed as a result he know just the right way to touch them, but they think he is taking the P on here. It's not a weird excuse to get girls in a sneaky way or anything, we know guys will try anything but he is totally genuine. so, how do we prove he's not taking the p. " people will believe what they want to believe they no way you can change that so just gotta accept the way things are really, more you go on about it on profiles etc then i think the more you probs alienate people who arnt familar at all, maybe they other sites that catter for it better? :s | |||
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