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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. " Sorry for your experience but i can assure not all us men are like that, I'm sure like many others on here I am polite & courteous and am never pushy - if my message is deleted or I get a "no thanks" I politely wish them well and move on so please don't think we are all wronguns. | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. " Is this a fab guy thing or a talking to 'single' guys on the internet thing? | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. Is this a fab guy thing or a talking to 'single' guys on the internet thing? " Pretty much 98% men online in my experience | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. Is this a fab guy thing or a talking to 'single' guys on the internet thing? Pretty much 98% men online in my experience " fab men seem to exacerbate the general attitude of online "single" men who actually are not single in reality | |||
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"Probably worth a break until next year. Find something better to do than be objectified by strangers. " . trust me i pretty much only come here to chat and that's it but I delete 95% of my messages because I know from experience it's not worth opening | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. " Come over to the sweet side and try a bit of lady loving x | |||
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"fab men seem to exacerbate the general attitude of online "single" men who actually are not single in reality " What is accepted as 'single guy' Widowed, separated, divorced. None of these are 'single' when choosing marital status. Yet I'd argue morally they could date or whatever. | |||
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"The amount of messages I get from married men, or already in relationships is actually pretty shocking! Its certainly put me off having a relationship for life! Then there's the ones who draw you in after meeting, say they want much more then boom! gone! One has ghosted, yet still looks at my profile daily I'm new and already fed up" yes that's my exact experience of fab... noone of genuine quality contacted me.. yet | |||
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"The amount of messages I get from married men, or already in relationships is actually pretty shocking! Its certainly put me off having a relationship for life! Then there's the ones who draw you in after meeting, say they want much more then boom! gone! One has ghosted, yet still looks at my profile daily I'm new and already fed up yes that's my exact experience of fab... noone of genuine quality contacted me.. yet " (Shrugs) | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. " I am going to be called a white knight but so be it. When I read posts like this as a genuine single man it gets to me a little bit. It seems all the cheaters get meets and the genuine single guys don't. I have been cheated on in the past and it hurt. I could never be a cheater. | |||
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"I’m starting to think people do not have a basic understanding of human nature...... If a man or woman is attractive and have their life together..... They will always have someone in their life, fwb/spouse/ex he/she is still friends with..... I think people need to temper their expectations for the swinging scene.... It will save people from disappointment..." So you think it's acceptable to accept lies and disappointment? | |||
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"Like accepting people let you down last minute without any excuse and ghost you is acceptable behaviour on fab/online meet? (even with people you already met once or twice) Accepting the guy pretended to be single to meet you and you find out in a bad way that his wife/girlfriend isn't impress with his behaviour either.. we meant to accept all this on fab? " Accept that it's something that's part of using the Internet to meet people and take steps to mitigate it happening to you | |||
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"I’m starting to think people do not have a basic understanding of human nature...... If a man or woman is attractive and have their life together..... They will always have someone in their life, fwb/spouse/ex he/she is still friends with..... I think people need to temper their expectations for the swinging scene.... It will save people from disappointment... So you think it's acceptable to accept lies and disappointment? " It is not acceptable and I find it to be bad karma... But you have to look at context...... If I met you on Fab , I would expect you to be talking to other men and probably have 1 or 2 friends with benefits.... I wouldn’t expect you to be a celibate virgin..... | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. " Have you thought about blocking men and then doing the choosing rather than having an inbox full of dross that could make the good ones harder to see? It’d be a shame to see you go. One reason being I like having a perv of your pics | |||
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"We have had more “fab holidays” than meets! The site and the scene doesn’t reflect swinging as we started out knowing it to be.. its all quick shag hookups, cheats and a lot of guys who dream! For couples and single women it can be very frustrating and for single guys we suspect it becomes so monotonous they eventual regress to “uugg fancy a fuck? What ya mean no!? Slag!” ( yep we get them messages as a cpl too) Best advice we think is set the filters to block, hide your profile and take a break!! Then come back and YOU make first contacts based on what your looking for.. use search and reach out... Our 2P worth of advice!! " We’d say similar but not hide if you still want to use forums etc. Take a break from the messaging side of things. Block everyone & look yourself for who maybe you’d like to message. We’ve never really understood the complaining about wading through the dross to find the good message when you can just block them all & pick someone to message yourself when & if you want to. S | |||
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"Like accepting people let you down last minute without any excuse and ghost you is acceptable behaviour on fab/online meet? (even with people you already met once or twice) Accepting the guy pretended to be single to meet you and you find out in a bad way that his wife/girlfriend isn't impress with his behaviour either.. we meant to accept all this on fab? " I wouldn't get to worried worried about anything really. Fab is nice to chat however once you have been to clubs and parties your opinion on swinging my change. There are some great couples and singles out there | |||
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" She wasnt naive ... " It sounds like she was at least a bit | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. " Take a break. Remember this is just a website, one website - it is not the be all & end all as some on here would have you believe. Fabswingers has become the 'go-to' site for a lot of people, but it's only a very small slice of the scene in general. The people on here can be awful - worse than any other site I've ever used for abuse (I've used them all) but all that says is that A) the site is cheap/free and B) therefore it attracts the low-life's. What you're describing is massively common, everyone on here goes through a love/hate relationship with the site. You just need a breather. | |||
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"A friend of mine had a similar experience on here to OP, but made all the worse by a guy she'd particularly hit it off with and became regular meets. He was the nail in the coffin. She wasnt naive but had high standards and vetted guys thoroughly (profile was one of those long "rule books" of do's & don'ts) and had trusted him. He pushed her to stop using condoms, since they'd gone exclusive. He had just played the part according to what her profile had said she wanted, took her to dinner, telling her sob story of being widowed, broken hearted as they'd always wanted kids...joined Fab just for company as still too upset to date. He got caught out when he messaged her profile on Fab "in your area tonight, fancy a fuck?" She thought he was winding her up as he knew she hated those messages so she played along, arranged the meet at their usual hotel. Quite a shock for both when she turned up as he hadnt realised it was her profile as she'd deleted the contents when they'd agreed to stop meeting others. Turned out he was married with kids, cheating all over the country and the "fancy a fuck" approach to a random profile was his usual style. She said it felt like r*** as she hadn't consented to have sex with that guy, she'd only wanted the guy he pretended to be. Needless to say she left Fab after that. " This is endemic in life not just fab ...... the vast majority of married men on here will be doing the same they just won’t get caught as their Mrs isn’t here. This is why cheaters disgust me. | |||
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" She wasnt naive ... It sounds like she was at least a bit" How was she naive? By trusting someone? Or by trusting someone she met on fab? If it’s the latter then you’re saying fab people are liars and to believe them is naive.? | |||
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" She wasnt naive ... It sounds like she was at least a bit How was she naive? By trusting someone? Or by trusting someone she met on fab? If it’s the latter then you’re saying fab people are liars and to believe them is naive.?" Context.... Context In theory people go on swinging sites not be exclusive... if you find your life partner on Fab you’re very lucky.... But most people should temper their expectations when meeting someone off Fab..... I think of people I meet on here like a ride at Disney land... it’s great while you are riding but you know it will come to a end.,., | |||
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" She wasnt naive ... It sounds like she was at least a bit How was she naive? By trusting someone? Or by trusting someone she met on fab? If it’s the latter then you’re saying fab people are liars and to believe them is naive.?" I'm saying there are ways to try to ensure you're not caught out like this | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. I am going to be called a white knight but so be it. When I read posts like this as a genuine single man it gets to me a little bit. It seems all the cheaters get meets and the genuine single guys don't. I have been cheated on in the past and it hurt. I could never be a cheater. " I concur. I am genuinely separated and I find all those married cheaters a pain in the neck. | |||
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"We have just added this to our profile. Single men. For every genuine guy there are 50 fakes. Frankly we are wasting so much time it's become a bore. We get a picture of a 40 something, fit handsome man and someone else turns up. This is our solution, if you dont want to follow this request then dont get in touch. After all if you are a genuine guy this will take you less than 1 min. Please send us a clear face picture holding up 3 fingers. Without this we will not respond to any winks or messages." Wouldn’t a video chat before a meeting be a little easier? | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. " Use your filters & block all men & do your own search | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. Use your filters & block all men & do your own search " It’s really hard for some users to do this ..... this fear of sending a message and being rejected is soul crushing..... | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. Use your filters & block all men & do your own search It’s really hard for some users to do this ..... this fear of sending a message and being rejected is soul crushing....." When I first joined I was sending messages like it was going out of fashion. I thought I was immune to the rejection feeling but then realised I rarely send messages anymore. It does get to you sometimes without you realising. | |||
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"I've just hidden mine. There was one man who has messaged me every week for 14 weeks, I've never replied ... Get the hint. Block list is massive. People from Dundee messaging me.... People who clearly not what I'm after. Is it really that hard to spend 30 seconds reading a profile" I'm curious to know why you didn't block him sooner? Why put up with a message every week for 14 weeks!? My rule is if they can't take no for an answer and they message a second time then they get blocked | |||
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" She wasnt naive ... It sounds like she was at least a bit How was she naive? By trusting someone? Or by trusting someone she met on fab? If it’s the latter then you’re saying fab people are liars and to believe them is naive.? I'm saying there are ways to try to ensure you're not caught out like this " I think modern life gives the cheaters plenty of help in hiding their actions, we are now used to guys being in certain circumstances that wouldn't have been the norm before. Guys living with parents cos they can't afford astronomical rent/buy prices, guys that have their kids all weekend or have to have a second job so always "working" etc. Makes it hard to know what's true when a guy "explains" their circumstances as it's all plausible nowadays. I was meeting a guy for 6 months with those "red flags". Always working, hardly ever available weekends, could never go to his place... but he always had plausible reasons. Took me 6 months to find he actually had a live-in partner. I promised I would never ignore the signs again as I never wanted to feel that stupid again. Now I've just upset a really decent guy as he was setting off alarms and I had heard all the "excuses" before. But turns out he was being honest about his situation and I just didn't believe him. So on this instance, he's the one that's been shit on (not literally!!). Modern life is a minefield... I think it can garden us with all the bullshit but then that tougher shell keeps out the good guys as well as the bad | |||
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" She wasnt naive ... It sounds like she was at least a bit How was she naive? By trusting someone? Or by trusting someone she met on fab? If it’s the latter then you’re saying fab people are liars and to believe them is naive.? I'm saying there are ways to try to ensure you're not caught out like this I think modern life gives the cheaters plenty of help in hiding their actions, we are now used to guys being in certain circumstances that wouldn't have been the norm before. Guys living with parents cos they can't afford astronomical rent/buy prices, guys that have their kids all weekend or have to have a second job so always "working" etc. Makes it hard to know what's true when a guy "explains" their circumstances as it's all plausible nowadays. I was meeting a guy for 6 months with those "red flags". Always working, hardly ever available weekends, could never go to his place... but he always had plausible reasons. Took me 6 months to find he actually had a live-in partner. I promised I would never ignore the signs again as I never wanted to feel that stupid again. Now I've just upset a really decent guy as he was setting off alarms and I had heard all the "excuses" before. But turns out he was being honest about his situation and I just didn't believe him. So on this instance, he's the one that's been shit on (not literally!!). Modern life is a minefield... I think it can garden us with all the bullshit but then that tougher shell keeps out the good guys as well as the bad" I know what you mean. I was never naive. I found out quickly about these cheaters and never met them. Just abit peeved about people saying one thing and doing the other, making empty promises. I don't have emotional time to be messed about so I choose to not meet anyone from fab anymore this year, even if we didn't have covid crisis. I just haven't met anyone I felt confident in meeting and I probably never will at the rate things are going. | |||
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" She wasnt naive ... It sounds like she was at least a bit How was she naive? By trusting someone? Or by trusting someone she met on fab? If it’s the latter then you’re saying fab people are liars and to believe them is naive.? I'm saying there are ways to try to ensure you're not caught out like this I think modern life gives the cheaters plenty of help in hiding their actions, we are now used to guys being in certain circumstances that wouldn't have been the norm before. Guys living with parents cos they can't afford astronomical rent/buy prices, guys that have their kids all weekend or have to have a second job so always "working" etc. Makes it hard to know what's true when a guy "explains" their circumstances as it's all plausible nowadays. I was meeting a guy for 6 months with those "red flags". Always working, hardly ever available weekends, could never go to his place... but he always had plausible reasons. Took me 6 months to find he actually had a live-in partner. I promised I would never ignore the signs again as I never wanted to feel that stupid again. Now I've just upset a really decent guy as he was setting off alarms and I had heard all the "excuses" before. But turns out he was being honest about his situation and I just didn't believe him. So on this instance, he's the one that's been shit on (not literally!!). Modern life is a minefield... I think it can garden us with all the bullshit but then that tougher shell keeps out the good guys as well as the bad" Btw if it's any consolation, my friend's work colleague was seriously dating a married man for 2 years without her knowledge. She was devastated about all the lies he told her and he never left his wife for her neither. | |||
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"I’m starting to think people do not have a basic understanding of human nature...... If a man or woman is attractive and have their life together..... They will always have someone in their life, fwb/spouse/ex he/she is still friends with..... " So somebody has nobody in their life they do not have their life together. Saved me a fortune in therapy, cheers. | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. " When the fun stops, take a break. I think the covid period is giving you time to reflect on what you really want.Use this period off, to recollect, and come back when ready. | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. Sorry for your experience but i can assure not all us men are like that, I'm sure like many others on here I am polite & courteous and am never pushy - if my message is deleted or I get a "no thanks" I politely wish them well and move on so please don't think we are all wronguns. " Same here, good manners are free xxx | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. " Block all men and do your own searching, scrutinise there verifications and try to do some due diligence, Trust your gut feeling it's there for a reason I'm genuine and I'm sure there must be others who just need a chance | |||
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"I am sorry but the idea that most men on fab are cheating is ridiculous. " Women cheat just as much as men, that is a well known fact. I have seen loads of women who are married and go behind their partners backs. Definitely stay clear of them. | |||
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"I’m starting to think people do not have a basic understanding of human nature...... If a man or woman is attractive and have their life together..... They will always have someone in their life, fwb/spouse/ex he/she is still friends with..... So somebody has nobody in their life they do not have their life together. Saved me a fortune in therapy, cheers. " Please don’t be offended.... I’m sorry if I touched a nerve..... Some people online live their lives like they are in a movie...... | |||
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"I am sorry but the idea that most men on fab are cheating is ridiculous. Women cheat just as much as men, that is a well known fact. I have seen loads of women who are married and go behind their partners backs. Definitely stay clear of them. " | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. " I'm right here right now. Soooooo close to hitting the delete button. | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. " I know what you mean. I am getting fed up with fab and the women on here there is only ao much rejection a d nasty messages you can handle | |||
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"Not sure if it's covid blues but my experience of fab so far has royally put me of men/sex for life. I don't believe what anyone says to me anymore as from my experience, they say one thing and do the other. I get meaningless/over perverted intro messages day in and day out. Most I find out later are married/in relationships and cheating on their partners. Time to really throw in the towel for good? I just don't know how to change my mindset about fab men. Is this a fab guy thing or a talking to 'single' guys on the internet thing? " I think some of it is a people thing rather than a guy issue to be honest. I think men get singled out over this stuff too often. And yes we can be our own worst enemies, but.. Whilst, I concede that the over-perverted messages are more likely to come from men than women (I've never sent any, by the way), the rest of it is equally applicable, across sexes in my opinion and experience. But what do we expect, it's the internet and it's free. I doubt this opinion will be popular, but I'm entitled to it. Genuinely, good luck OP, it's possible fab wasn't / isn't for you at the moment. | |||
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"I think a lot are afraid of Covid. There are also a lot more folks at home bored and need a little sideshow to relieve the boredom. A lot of profiles saying no meets for the foreseeable future-chat only. " But why should covid be a reason for disrespect, cheats thinking it's acceptable and those who blatantly flout the rules? Covid isn't an excuse to cheat or lie. We should be afraid of it, and every profile/person should be following the rules. | |||
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"I think a lot are afraid of Covid. There are also a lot more folks at home bored and need a little sideshow to relieve the boredom. A lot of profiles saying no meets for the foreseeable future-chat only. But why should covid be a reason for disrespect, cheats thinking it's acceptable and those who blatantly flout the rules? Covid isn't an excuse to cheat or lie. We should be afraid of it, and every profile/person should be following the rules. " Is you moving in with your friends strictly within the rules? | |||
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"I think a lot are afraid of Covid. There are also a lot more folks at home bored and need a little sideshow to relieve the boredom. A lot of profiles saying no meets for the foreseeable future-chat only. But why should covid be a reason for disrespect, cheats thinking it's acceptable and those who blatantly flout the rules? Covid isn't an excuse to cheat or lie. We should be afraid of it, and every profile/person should be following the rules. Is you moving in with your friends strictly within the rules?" They are my bubble. Not a bubble one day, and then a different bubble the next. So yes, very much within the rules. | |||
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"I think a lot are afraid of Covid. There are also a lot more folks at home bored and need a little sideshow to relieve the boredom. A lot of profiles saying no meets for the foreseeable future-chat only. But why should covid be a reason for disrespect, cheats thinking it's acceptable and those who blatantly flout the rules? Covid isn't an excuse to cheat or lie. We should be afraid of it, and every profile/person should be following the rules. Is you moving in with your friends strictly within the rules? They are my bubble. Not a bubble one day, and then a different bubble the next. So yes, very much within the rules. " So just 2 households? | |||
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"I think a lot are afraid of Covid. There are also a lot more folks at home bored and need a little sideshow to relieve the boredom. A lot of profiles saying no meets for the foreseeable future-chat only. But why should covid be a reason for disrespect, cheats thinking it's acceptable and those who blatantly flout the rules? Covid isn't an excuse to cheat or lie. We should be afraid of it, and every profile/person should be following the rules. Is you moving in with your friends strictly within the rules? They are my bubble. Not a bubble one day, and then a different bubble the next. So yes, very much within the rules. So just 2 households?" Yes. Same as last lockdown. Same people, same house. | |||
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" For couples and single women it can be very frustrating and for single guys we suspect it becomes so monotonous they eventual regress to “uugg fancy a fuck? What ya mean no!? Slag!” ( yep we get them messages as a cpl " Really? Couples get those messages too that actually makes me feel a but better | |||
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