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"We are still here because we have met some wonderful people. He says it doesn't bother him and we have fun in our mmf but I want to see someone desire him like I do. He's sensitive but tries to hide it sometimes. As far as him being plump I love that about him. He's just perfect like that for me and makes jokes about it to everyone as an earlier poster can confirm as she was part of a wonderful social we had. We love this community and he's usually the one on here. I don't like to talk through technology . I prefer face to face. The people we have played with have been great. Jason just won't do anything without direct permission. He's quite old fashioned that way. I'd just like others to show him interest. I also wasn't asking what is wrong with him. I just want to know why others can't see him like I do when the contact the both of us but don't want to include him or will just accept him to play with me. We never accept those invitations. We did have one meet where I got ill and he was having fun with the lady . He saw I was in pain and stopped everything even tho I wanted him to continue. He just wanted to get me home. Even made me a pizza and never once complained. " you were asking what's wrong with him. Its the title of your thread. My personal opinion is that you should wait until he's able to contribute to this too or at least agree to what you're posting | |||
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" I just want to know why others can't see him like I do " Because you have a (I assume) multiple year relationship with him and you know him very well, but to other people he's a stranger. However much of a lovely person someone is, it's very hard to get that across to strangers and have it be something sexy for them. Much of the swinging world is superficial, and if that hurts you both there's nothing wrong with taking a step back. Or you can focus on cultivating friendships with other similar couples who feel similarly. You won't be the only person who feels this way. | |||
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"We are a couple we play as a couple with other couples. We wouldn't consider meeting people who only wanted one of us. If we got to a meet and this became apparent then we would just leave. If messages are just directed to one of us, we make it clear we are a couple and if they carry on we block them." Totally agree with this. K | |||
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"I'm afraid swinging isn't for you " It is. They just need to meet the people who are polite enough to address and include them both. | |||
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"It's starting to get really frustrating now. Almost all our messages seem to be targeted only at me and Jason gets left out. Hes kind, caring, generous and I think he's good looking with a great smile and kind eyes. Yet people don't want to know if he's involved. Yes he's a bit plump but he's generous and I love him dearly. He's helped me enjoy some wonderful mmf times and even during our group play he keeps getting left out. He says he doesn't mind but I am starting to feel guilty for enjoying myself while he only gets to please orally then gets sort of pushed out unless he notices me looking at him then he joins in with me. It's not right and not fair. I know it hurts him, he has often said he feels ugly or repulsive but he really isn't. Why are people so uncaring towards such a caring man. Sorry I've had a few drinks and watched him cry over some of the posts tonight. He didn't know I was still awake. " . It maybe best to perhaps have a couple of socials first get to know the other party and don’t be afraid to make it clear that you come as a couple you play as a couple.As for Jason been a kind caring man well about a week or two ago he started a thread called Depression and suicidal thoughts where he basically came across as someone who would try to be a sort of councillor for your problem which I thought was a kind and caring thing to do.We have exchanged messages and he comes across as a friendly person who you can have a chat with about life , sports , Fabs and get on well with. | |||
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"Reading your response Jason, you’ll find this mainly a very supportive community who will be happy to talk things through with you. You haven’t said, but maybe you’re trying to ride two horses in terms of enjoying the cuck side but also wanting sex and attention at the same time? You can have whatever preferences you like, that’s what’s so liberating, but it could be that you end up giving mixed messages in a group setting where the ladies are not going to be at all sure if you are up for anything or are happiest just watching your partner. " Thanks for the response and your right, this is a fantastic community here. I definitely not a cuck at all though, I'm just respectful of others when we play. I do get involved and have had lots of fun when everyone plays together. Just it sometimes ends up that I "run" the night lol. I am a pleaser. I get pleasure from making others feel good and seeing the smiles. I was a DJ for years and that's what drove me. Rhi always tries to make sure I'm never left out. She thinks it's more of an issue than it is during play. It's the messages that get to me though sometimes. Being called ugly on the daily hurts a bit but again it just means that the block list grows and I can keep them away from our play. Still hard not to let it get under my skin tho | |||
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"Reading your response Jason, you’ll find this mainly a very supportive community who will be happy to talk things through with you. You haven’t said, but maybe you’re trying to ride two horses in terms of enjoying the cuck side but also wanting sex and attention at the same time? You can have whatever preferences you like, that’s what’s so liberating, but it could be that you end up giving mixed messages in a group setting where the ladies are not going to be at all sure if you are up for anything or are happiest just watching your partner. Thanks for the response and your right, this is a fantastic community here. I definitely not a cuck at all though, I'm just respectful of others when we play. I do get involved and have had lots of fun when everyone plays together. Just it sometimes ends up that I "run" the night lol. I am a pleaser. I get pleasure from making others feel good and seeing the smiles. I was a DJ for years and that's what drove me. Rhi always tries to make sure I'm never left out. She thinks it's more of an issue than it is during play. It's the messages that get to me though sometimes. Being called ugly on the daily hurts a bit but again it just means that the block list grows and I can keep them away from our play. Still hard not to let it get under my skin tho" I’d like to say that I can’t believe people say that in their messages but after some of the insults I’ve received I know it to be true x | |||
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"Reading your response Jason, you’ll find this mainly a very supportive community who will be happy to talk things through with you. You haven’t said, but maybe you’re trying to ride two horses in terms of enjoying the cuck side but also wanting sex and attention at the same time? You can have whatever preferences you like, that’s what’s so liberating, but it could be that you end up giving mixed messages in a group setting where the ladies are not going to be at all sure if you are up for anything or are happiest just watching your partner. Thanks for the response and your right, this is a fantastic community here. I definitely not a cuck at all though, I'm just respectful of others when we play. I do get involved and have had lots of fun when everyone plays together. Just it sometimes ends up that I "run" the night lol. I am a pleaser. I get pleasure from making others feel good and seeing the smiles. I was a DJ for years and that's what drove me. Rhi always tries to make sure I'm never left out. She thinks it's more of an issue than it is during play. It's the messages that get to me though sometimes. Being called ugly on the daily hurts a bit but again it just means that the block list grows and I can keep them away from our play. Still hard not to let it get under my skin tho" My personal opinion that you should step back and regroup still stands. It's upsetting you both. People say this is a caring and understanding community but it clearly isn't big you're getting messages saying you're ugly when you obviously aren't. How about closing your in box to all messages and take some time to just communicate with those you know to be good people. If you do get abusive messages report them. | |||
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"Thank you everyone for such love. I was an unexpected way to wake up when my inbox went mental with such kind and supportive messages. Rhiannons hangover isn't too bad. She more embarrassed about posting. I'm so glad she did. You guys are amazing ??" Glad Rhiannon isn't feeling too poorly today, we've all been there! Don't drink and Fab! It's a wonderful place when you need a pick me up. We're all here for the same reason. We're all different (if we were the same it would be boring) | |||
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"It's starting to get really frustrating now. Almost all our messages seem to be targeted only at me and Jason gets left out. Hes kind, caring, generous and I think he's good looking with a great smile and kind eyes. Yet people don't want to know if he's involved. Yes he's a bit plump but he's generous and I love him dearly. He's helped me enjoy some wonderful mmf times and even during our group play he keeps getting left out. He says he doesn't mind but I am starting to feel guilty for enjoying myself while he only gets to please orally then gets sort of pushed out unless he notices me looking at him then he joins in with me. It's not right and not fair. I know it hurts him, he has often said he feels ugly or repulsive but he really isn't. Why are people so uncaring towards such a caring man. Sorry I've had a few drinks and watched him cry over some of the posts tonight. He didn't know I was still awake. " There's nothing wrong with him he seems a decent bloke tbh, You are complaining he doesn't get involved yet say he only gets involved when you look at him so maybe look at him more if you want him involved..? Also commenting on his weight when you are not slim is slightly condescending, Maybe this is why he has confidence issues? I agree with other posters that you should use Covid to take a break then come back when we're all ready. Sam Xx | |||
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"It's starting to get really frustrating now. Almost all our messages seem to be targeted only at me and Jason gets left out. Hes kind, caring, generous and I think he's good looking with a great smile and kind eyes. Yet people don't want to know if he's involved. Yes he's a bit plump but he's generous and I love him dearly. He's helped me enjoy some wonderful mmf times and even during our group play he keeps getting left out. He says he doesn't mind but I am starting to feel guilty for enjoying myself while he only gets to please orally then gets sort of pushed out unless he notices me looking at him then he joins in with me. It's not right and not fair. I know it hurts him, he has often said he feels ugly or repulsive but he really isn't. Why are people so uncaring towards such a caring man. Sorry I've had a few drinks and watched him cry over some of the posts tonight. He didn't know I was still awake. There's nothing wrong with him he seems a decent bloke tbh, You are complaining he doesn't get involved yet say he only gets involved when you look at him so maybe look at him more if you want him involved..? Also commenting on his weight when you are not slim is slightly condescending, Maybe this is why he has confidence issues? I agree with other posters that you should use Covid to take a break then come back when we're all ready. Sam Xx" Hi guys. Again great responses. As far as our weight goes we are both chubby and happy with it. Well not happy but accepting of it and working to improve. . Rhi loves my chubbyness and I think she's perfect as she is. She's actually put this in other post as well. I do get involved when the feelings are mutual. I won't push in where the desire isn't there. And I'm ok with that. As far as catching her eye goes it usually becomes a little mmf at that point lol. She enjoys our play and I'm not going to stop that just to interupt. It's why we are here afterall. We both have self confidence issues yes but are happy with each other. What gets to me is the messages. Being called ugly or that its the suppose I can come along if they get to play with rhi is what hurts. We don't entertain those people ever. It's both of us or no one . But it's part of the life. There are more amazing people than idiots here. We just got to keep being us and we will meet them eventually | |||
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"It's starting to get really frustrating now. Almost all our messages seem to be targeted only at me and Jason gets left out. Hes kind, caring, generous and I think he's good looking with a great smile and kind eyes. Yet people don't want to know if he's involved. Yes he's a bit plump but he's generous and I love him dearly. He's helped me enjoy some wonderful mmf times and even during our group play he keeps getting left out. He says he doesn't mind but I am starting to feel guilty for enjoying myself while he only gets to please orally then gets sort of pushed out unless he notices me looking at him then he joins in with me. It's not right and not fair. I know it hurts him, he has often said he feels ugly or repulsive but he really isn't. Why are people so uncaring towards such a caring man. Sorry I've had a few drinks and watched him cry over some of the posts tonight. He didn't know I was still awake. There's nothing wrong with him he seems a decent bloke tbh, You are complaining he doesn't get involved yet say he only gets involved when you look at him so maybe look at him more if you want him involved..? Also commenting on his weight when you are not slim is slightly condescending, Maybe this is why he has confidence issues? I agree with other posters that you should use Covid to take a break then come back when we're all ready. Sam Xx Hi guys. Again great responses. As far as our weight goes we are both chubby and happy with it. Well not happy but accepting of it and working to improve. . Rhi loves my chubbyness and I think she's perfect as she is. She's actually put this in other post as well. I do get involved when the feelings are mutual. I won't push in where the desire isn't there. And I'm ok with that. As far as catching her eye goes it usually becomes a little mmf at that point lol. She enjoys our play and I'm not going to stop that just to interupt. It's why we are here afterall. We both have self confidence issues yes but are happy with each other. What gets to me is the messages. Being called ugly or that its the suppose I can come along if they get to play with rhi is what hurts. We don't entertain those people ever. It's both of us or no one . But it's part of the life. There are more amazing people than idiots here. We just got to keep being us and we will meet them eventually " Yes but let's be honest she's calling you chubby like she's a size 12 which she isn't. She is obviously calling the play shots so if it's going wrong it's her fault not yours, You're just being directed from what I'm gathering so you cannot be blamed for it | |||
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"We are still here because we have met some wonderful people. He says it doesn't bother him and we have fun in our mmf but I want to see someone desire him like I do. He's sensitive but tries to hide it sometimes. As far as him being plump I love that about him. He's just perfect like that for me and makes jokes about it to everyone as an earlier poster can confirm as she was part of a wonderful social we had. We love this community and he's usually the one on here. I don't like to talk through technology . I prefer face to face. The people we have played with have been great. Jason just won't do anything without direct permission. He's quite old fashioned that way. I'd just like others to show him interest. I also wasn't asking what is wrong with him. I just want to know why others can't see him like I do when the contact the both of us but don't want to include him or will just accept him to play with me. We never accept those invitations. We did have one meet where I got ill and he was having fun with the lady . He saw I was in pain and stopped everything even tho I wanted him to continue. He just wanted to get me home. Even made me a pizza and never once complained. " People will never see him like you. Likewise, people won't see you as he does. Perhaps just stick to clubs where people's characters can come out. | |||
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"It's starting to get really frustrating now. Almost all our messages seem to be targeted only at me and Jason gets left out. Hes kind, caring, generous and I think he's good looking with a great smile and kind eyes. Yet people don't want to know if he's involved. Yes he's a bit plump but he's generous and I love him dearly. He's helped me enjoy some wonderful mmf times and even during our group play he keeps getting left out. He says he doesn't mind but I am starting to feel guilty for enjoying myself while he only gets to please orally then gets sort of pushed out unless he notices me looking at him then he joins in with me. It's not right and not fair. I know it hurts him, he has often said he feels ugly or repulsive but he really isn't. Why are people so uncaring towards such a caring man. Sorry I've had a few drinks and watched him cry over some of the posts tonight. He didn't know I was still awake. There's nothing wrong with him he seems a decent bloke tbh, You are complaining he doesn't get involved yet say he only gets involved when you look at him so maybe look at him more if you want him involved..? Also commenting on his weight when you are not slim is slightly condescending, Maybe this is why he has confidence issues? I agree with other posters that you should use Covid to take a break then come back when we're all ready. Sam Xx Hi guys. Again great responses. As far as our weight goes we are both chubby and happy with it. Well not happy but accepting of it and working to improve. . Rhi loves my chubbyness and I think she's perfect as she is. She's actually put this in other post as well. I do get involved when the feelings are mutual. I won't push in where the desire isn't there. And I'm ok with that. As far as catching her eye goes it usually becomes a little mmf at that point lol. She enjoys our play and I'm not going to stop that just to interupt. It's why we are here afterall. We both have self confidence issues yes but are happy with each other. What gets to me is the messages. Being called ugly or that its the suppose I can come along if they get to play with rhi is what hurts. We don't entertain those people ever. It's both of us or no one . But it's part of the life. There are more amazing people than idiots here. We just got to keep being us and we will meet them eventually Yes but let's be honest she's calling you chubby like she's a size 12 which she isn't. She is obviously calling the play shots so if it's going wrong it's her fault not yours, You're just being directed from what I'm gathering so you cannot be blamed for it" You have that totally wrong my friend. That was her initial issue. We are a couple, we play as a couple. Yes she has final say on a yes no meet but that's because I respect her. We talk to people as a couple. I am the one mostly online and to first point of contact. I will chat for a while and see if they are nice people then tell rhi all about them. We don't do meet and fuck. Always social unless at a club and even there we have only played with people we have met previously. She calls me chubby because I am. I call myself fat , for God sake my belly button has its own echo. . She's a bigger girl but saying that dosnt mean I'm disrespecting her or that she's disrespecting me by saying the same about me. We are totally honest with each other. As far as calling the play shots it's equal. If either of us feel uncomfortable on we arnt into it either of us can Instantly call a stop. We choose who we play with together. That's why a social first it essential What's "going wrong" isn't her fault. It's no one's. I'm a pleaser, definitely not a cuck. If during play I'm on my own for a bit I don't mind as long as everyone is having a good time. If rhi catches my eye when this happens she will either stop playing with who she is with and come to me or I will go to her and join in. As I said the problem is with being called ugly in messages. At least for me. Her issue is that she wants more people interested in me so she feels things are equal. They will never be that way unless I look like Jason mamoa. Lol. And if I did I would want her exactly as she is now. I think she's perfect But I'm ok with that. Ladies will always have the lion's share of attention. That's just the life. | |||
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"It's starting to get really frustrating now. Almost all our messages seem to be targeted only at me and Jason gets left out. Hes kind, caring, generous and I think he's good looking with a great smile and kind eyes. Yet people don't want to know if he's involved. Yes he's a bit plump but he's generous and I love him dearly. He's helped me enjoy some wonderful mmf times and even during our group play he keeps getting left out. He says he doesn't mind but I am starting to feel guilty for enjoying myself while he only gets to please orally then gets sort of pushed out unless he notices me looking at him then he joins in with me. It's not right and not fair. I know it hurts him, he has often said he feels ugly or repulsive but he really isn't. Why are people so uncaring towards such a caring man. Sorry I've had a few drinks and watched him cry over some of the posts tonight. He didn't know I was still awake. There's nothing wrong with him he seems a decent bloke tbh, You are complaining he doesn't get involved yet say he only gets involved when you look at him so maybe look at him more if you want him involved..? Also commenting on his weight when you are not slim is slightly condescending, Maybe this is why he has confidence issues? I agree with other posters that you should use Covid to take a break then come back when we're all ready. Sam Xx Hi guys. Again great responses. As far as our weight goes we are both chubby and happy with it. Well not happy but accepting of it and working to improve. . Rhi loves my chubbyness and I think she's perfect as she is. She's actually put this in other post as well. I do get involved when the feelings are mutual. I won't push in where the desire isn't there. And I'm ok with that. As far as catching her eye goes it usually becomes a little mmf at that point lol. She enjoys our play and I'm not going to stop that just to interupt. It's why we are here afterall. We both have self confidence issues yes but are happy with each other. What gets to me is the messages. Being called ugly or that its the suppose I can come along if they get to play with rhi is what hurts. We don't entertain those people ever. It's both of us or no one . But it's part of the life. There are more amazing people than idiots here. We just got to keep being us and we will meet them eventually Yes but let's be honest she's calling you chubby like she's a size 12 which she isn't. She is obviously calling the play shots so if it's going wrong it's her fault not yours, You're just being directed from what I'm gathering so you cannot be blamed for it You have that totally wrong my friend. That was her initial issue. We are a couple, we play as a couple. Yes she has final say on a yes no meet but that's because I respect her. We talk to people as a couple. I am the one mostly online and to first point of contact. I will chat for a while and see if they are nice people then tell rhi all about them. We don't do meet and fuck. Always social unless at a club and even there we have only played with people we have met previously. She calls me chubby because I am. I call myself fat , for God sake my belly button has its own echo. . She's a bigger girl but saying that dosnt mean I'm disrespecting her or that she's disrespecting me by saying the same about me. We are totally honest with each other. As far as calling the play shots it's equal. If either of us feel uncomfortable on we arnt into it either of us can Instantly call a stop. We choose who we play with together. That's why a social first it essential What's "going wrong" isn't her fault. It's no one's. I'm a pleaser, definitely not a cuck. If during play I'm on my own for a bit I don't mind as long as everyone is having a good time. If rhi catches my eye when this happens she will either stop playing with who she is with and come to me or I will go to her and join in. As I said the problem is with being called ugly in messages. At least for me. Her issue is that she wants more people interested in me so she feels things are equal. They will never be that way unless I look like Jason mamoa. Lol. And if I did I would want her exactly as she is now. I think she's perfect But I'm ok with that. Ladies will always have the lion's share of attention. That's just the life. " I think it would be very helpful if Mrs took some better pictures of you. The ones of you are not brilliant shots but there's some exceptional good ones of the Mrs. I think therein lies the problem.You need to equal up the status quo by posing for some saucy pictures yourself. The one of you made up as a scary individual needs to go. You sound like a very nice couple. | |||
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"We are still here because we have met some wonderful people. He says it doesn't bother him and we have fun in our mmf but I want to see someone desire him like I do. He's sensitive but tries to hide it sometimes. As far as him being plump I love that about him. He's just perfect like that for me and makes jokes about it to everyone as an earlier poster can confirm as she was part of a wonderful social we had. We love this community and he's usually the one on here. I don't like to talk through technology . I prefer face to face. The people we have played with have been great. Jason just won't do anything without direct permission. He's quite old fashioned that way. I'd just like others to show him interest. I also wasn't asking what is wrong with him. I just want to know why others can't see him like I do when the contact the both of us but don't want to include him or will just accept him to play with me. We never accept those invitations. We did have one meet where I got ill and he was having fun with the lady . He saw I was in pain and stopped everything even tho I wanted him to continue. He just wanted to get me home. Even made me a pizza and never once complained. People will never see him like you. Likewise, people won't see you as he does. Perhaps just stick to clubs where people's characters can come out. " | |||
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"It's starting to get really frustrating now. Almost all our messages seem to be targeted only at me and Jason gets left out. Hes kind, caring, generous and I think he's good looking with a great smile and kind eyes. Yet people don't want to know if he's involved. Yes he's a bit plump but he's generous and I love him dearly. He's helped me enjoy some wonderful mmf times and even during our group play he keeps getting left out. He says he doesn't mind but I am starting to feel guilty for enjoying myself while he only gets to please orally then gets sort of pushed out unless he notices me looking at him then he joins in with me. It's not right and not fair. I know it hurts him, he has often said he feels ugly or repulsive but he really isn't. Why are people so uncaring towards such a caring man. Sorry I've had a few drinks and watched him cry over some of the posts tonight. He didn't know I was still awake. There's nothing wrong with him he seems a decent bloke tbh, You are complaining he doesn't get involved yet say he only gets involved when you look at him so maybe look at him more if you want him involved..? Also commenting on his weight when you are not slim is slightly condescending, Maybe this is why he has confidence issues? I agree with other posters that you should use Covid to take a break then come back when we're all ready. Sam Xx Hi guys. Again great responses. As far as our weight goes we are both chubby and happy with it. Well not happy but accepting of it and working to improve. . Rhi loves my chubbyness and I think she's perfect as she is. She's actually put this in other post as well. I do get involved when the feelings are mutual. I won't push in where the desire isn't there. And I'm ok with that. As far as catching her eye goes it usually becomes a little mmf at that point lol. She enjoys our play and I'm not going to stop that just to interupt. It's why we are here afterall. We both have self confidence issues yes but are happy with each other. What gets to me is the messages. Being called ugly or that its the suppose I can come along if they get to play with rhi is what hurts. We don't entertain those people ever. It's both of us or no one . But it's part of the life. There are more amazing people than idiots here. We just got to keep being us and we will meet them eventually Yes but let's be honest she's calling you chubby like she's a size 12 which she isn't. She is obviously calling the play shots so if it's going wrong it's her fault not yours, You're just being directed from what I'm gathering so you cannot be blamed for it You have that totally wrong my friend. That was her initial issue. We are a couple, we play as a couple. Yes she has final say on a yes no meet but that's because I respect her. We talk to people as a couple. I am the one mostly online and to first point of contact. I will chat for a while and see if they are nice people then tell rhi all about them. We don't do meet and fuck. Always social unless at a club and even there we have only played with people we have met previously. She calls me chubby because I am. I call myself fat , for God sake my belly button has its own echo. . She's a bigger girl but saying that dosnt mean I'm disrespecting her or that she's disrespecting me by saying the same about me. We are totally honest with each other. As far as calling the play shots it's equal. If either of us feel uncomfortable on we arnt into it either of us can Instantly call a stop. We choose who we play with together. That's why a social first it essential What's "going wrong" isn't her fault. It's no one's. I'm a pleaser, definitely not a cuck. If during play I'm on my own for a bit I don't mind as long as everyone is having a good time. If rhi catches my eye when this happens she will either stop playing with who she is with and come to me or I will go to her and join in. As I said the problem is with being called ugly in messages. At least for me. Her issue is that she wants more people interested in me so she feels things are equal. They will never be that way unless I look like Jason mamoa. Lol. And if I did I would want her exactly as she is now. I think she's perfect But I'm ok with that. Ladies will always have the lion's share of attention. That's just the life. I think it would be very helpful if Mrs took some better pictures of you. The ones of you are not brilliant shots but there's some exceptional good ones of the Mrs. I think therein lies the problem.You need to equal up the status quo by posing for some saucy pictures yourself. The one of you made up as a scary individual needs to go. You sound like a very nice couple. " But zombie me is my favourite pic lol. Rhi is really photogenic. I got her the photo shoot at Christmas and for the first time she saw herself as I see her. She looked so shocked. I think just about every picture there is of me is on our profile lol. We have slowly started taking more and will be adding to them .but I definitely get your point. More of me will definitely help. Although I don't know how to pose for saucy lol. Think I'd look more camp. Even that's not actually a bad thing lol | |||
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"It's starting to get really frustrating now. Almost all our messages seem to be targeted only at me and Jason gets left out. Hes kind, caring, generous and I think he's good looking with a great smile and kind eyes. Yet people don't want to know if he's involved. Yes he's a bit plump but he's generous and I love him dearly. He's helped me enjoy some wonderful mmf times and even during our group play he keeps getting left out. He says he doesn't mind but I am starting to feel guilty for enjoying myself while he only gets to please orally then gets sort of pushed out unless he notices me looking at him then he joins in with me. It's not right and not fair. I know it hurts him, he has often said he feels ugly or repulsive but he really isn't. Why are people so uncaring towards such a caring man. Sorry I've had a few drinks and watched him cry over some of the posts tonight. He didn't know I was still awake. " As to play with others this can be difficult depending on the type of person and nature you have. But can also say a lot about the people your playing with. They may either not be very aware of others and their needs or just they're selfish them self and not good team players. So one aspect is to pick who you play with wisely. Maybe have a good chat with them beforehand and try and gauge if they are going to understand and facilitate Mr's needs or just concentrate on their own fulfilment. Also an improvement on confidence and assertiveness will help to improve the situation for Mr. Plus just to get a better feel for when thing's are right to get involved. This is a skill I have improved during my time on the scene as single and in a couple (Mr). Nice guys can have these qualities too. That's an area only Mr can work on with your help of course. Although I get it can be harder to have confidence after knock backs. But it is a skill that develops though practice, so keep at it. | |||
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"this thread is ridiculous Why?" Thats all I'm going to say without getting offensive. But I'd say the answer was pretty obvious | |||
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"You've got over 40 verifications praising you as a couple so don't understand the crying bit etc Good luck though " Attention | |||
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"You've got over 40 verifications praising you as a couple so don't understand the crying bit etc Good luck though " Very few of our verifications are from sexual meets. When our regular club was open we were very social there. I let comments in some nasty messages get to me. I'm not ashamed to cry a bit when I'm hurt. Would rather that than take it out on someone who has done nothing wrong | |||
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"It's starting to get really frustrating now. Almost all our messages seem to be targeted only at me and Jason gets left out. Hes kind, caring, generous and I think he's good looking with a great smile and kind eyes. Yet people don't want to know if he's involved. Yes he's a bit plump but he's generous and I love him dearly. He's helped me enjoy some wonderful mmf times and even during our group play he keeps getting left out. He says he doesn't mind but I am starting to feel guilty for enjoying myself while he only gets to please orally then gets sort of pushed out unless he notices me looking at him then he joins in with me. It's not right and not fair. I know it hurts him, he has often said he feels ugly or repulsive but he really isn't. Why are people so uncaring towards such a caring man. Sorry I've had a few drinks and watched him cry over some of the posts tonight. He didn't know I was still awake. As to play with others this can be difficult depending on the type of person and nature you have. But can also say a lot about the people your playing with. They may either not be very aware of others and their needs or just they're selfish them self and not good team players. So one aspect is to pick who you play with wisely. Maybe have a good chat with them beforehand and try and gauge if they are going to understand and facilitate Mr's needs or just concentrate on their own fulfilment. Also an improvement on confidence and assertiveness will help to improve the situation for Mr. Plus just to get a better feel for when thing's are right to get involved. This is a skill I have improved during my time on the scene as single and in a couple (Mr). Nice guys can have these qualities too. That's an area only Mr can work on with your help of course. Although I get it can be harder to have confidence after knock backs. But it is a skill that develops though practice, so keep at it." I'm working on it. We always have a social first with anytime we do play with. And everyone we have had fun with have been great people. They just get swept up in the moment. As I said it's not that much of an issue to me. It's upset rhi a bit but moreso the messages. I've never been the most confident of people but still like to have fun. I'm social and definitely not shy but not that assertive. It's hard to put forward bit I guess I'm a little old fashioned lol. | |||
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"Male half of us here, I'm pretty good at spotting whoever is typing to us in a couple as people tend to type differently. The op to me looks like the same person on each comment rather than different people. Could be wrong. Shoot me it whatever. Joel." Bang.......I know this couple and it’s not the same person writing the text....shame on you! | |||
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"Male half of us here, I'm pretty good at spotting whoever is typing to us in a couple as people tend to type differently. The op to me looks like the same person on each comment rather than different people. Could be wrong. Shoot me it whatever. Joel. Bang.......I know this couple and it’s not the same person writing the text....shame on you! " Hardly shame on me is it? Because you know them doesn't mean anything unless you was stood behind while it was being posted. In which case I would apologize | |||
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"Male half of us here, I'm pretty good at spotting whoever is typing to us in a couple as people tend to type differently. The op to me looks like the same person on each comment rather than different people. Could be wrong. Shoot me it whatever. Joel. Bang.......I know this couple and it’s not the same person writing the text....shame on you! Hardly shame on me is it? Because you know them doesn't mean anything unless you was stood behind while it was being posted. In which case I would apologize " Well I know them personally and I know they don’t pretend to be the other one on Fab. They are what is known as ‘genuine’. I’m not apologising to you or anyone else when I know I’m right..... | |||
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"Male half of us here, I'm pretty good at spotting whoever is typing to us in a couple as people tend to type differently. The op to me looks like the same person on each comment rather than different people. Could be wrong. Shoot me it whatever. Joel. Bang.......I know this couple and it’s not the same person writing the text....shame on you! Hardly shame on me is it? Because you know them doesn't mean anything unless you was stood behind while it was being posted. In which case I would apologize Well I know them personally and I know they don’t pretend to be the other one on Fab. They are what is known as ‘genuine’. I’m not apologising to you or anyone else when I know I’m right....." I’m much younger than you , but in my short life... I’ve learned to pick my battles wisely.... This isn’t a battle worth fighting...... | |||
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"Male half of us here, I'm pretty good at spotting whoever is typing to us in a couple as people tend to type differently. The op to me looks like the same person on each comment rather than different people. Could be wrong. Shoot me it whatever. Joel. Bang.......I know this couple and it’s not the same person writing the text....shame on you! Hardly shame on me is it? Because you know them doesn't mean anything unless you was stood behind while it was being posted. In which case I would apologize Well I know them personally and I know they don’t pretend to be the other one on Fab. They are what is known as ‘genuine’. I’m not apologising to you or anyone else when I know I’m right..... I’m much younger than you , but in my short life... I’ve learned to pick my battles wisely.... This isn’t a battle worth fighting......" Baffled why you mention our age gap? I’m fighting no battles but I know the OP well as a couple and I know they don’t mess about and pretend to be the other to just create a sympathy thread. If you are here just to poke the fire then it’s a waste of your time and mine...’ | |||
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"Male half of us here, I'm pretty good at spotting whoever is typing to us in a couple as people tend to type differently. The op to me looks like the same person on each comment rather than different people. Could be wrong. Shoot me it whatever. Joel. Bang.......I know this couple and it’s not the same person writing the text....shame on you! Hardly shame on me is it? Because you know them doesn't mean anything unless you was stood behind while it was being posted. In which case I would apologize Well I know them personally and I know they don’t pretend to be the other one on Fab. They are what is known as ‘genuine’. I’m not apologising to you or anyone else when I know I’m right..... I’m much younger than you , but in my short life... I’ve learned to pick my battles wisely.... This isn’t a battle worth fighting...... Baffled why you mention our age gap? I’m fighting no battles but I know the OP well as a couple and I know they don’t mess about and pretend to be the other to just create a sympathy thread. If you are here just to poke the fire then it’s a waste of your time and mine...’ " I actually respect you and enjoy your posts..... I just didn’t want you defending someone blindly... but carry on | |||
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"Male half of us here, I'm pretty good at spotting whoever is typing to us in a couple as people tend to type differently. The op to me looks like the same person on each comment rather than different people. Could be wrong. Shoot me it whatever. Joel." You're not the only one that's spotted it, It's also not the first time the OP has done it | |||
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"I see your hubby is down as bi curious maybe make it clear next meet that you would like to see the two men playing a little before you become involved then everyone will be nicely warmed up and involved " How do you know they haven’t already explored that? | |||
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"I see your hubby is down as bi curious maybe make it clear next meet that you would like to see the two men playing a little before you become involved then everyone will be nicely warmed up and involved How do you know they haven’t already explored that? " every comment you make in forum is argumentative | |||
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"I see your hubby is down as bi curious maybe make it clear next meet that you would like to see the two men playing a little before you become involved then everyone will be nicely warmed up and involved How do you know they haven’t already explored that? every comment you make in forum is argumentative " Every comment I make is logical. | |||
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"its pretty simple, most meets its all about the female. Nobody cares about the guys as long as the female is getting it. Also, what kind of comment is that to make....he is a bit plump, i bet that makes him feel loved." this ! | |||
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"its pretty simple, most meets its all about the female. Nobody cares about the guys as long as the female is getting it. Also, what kind of comment is that to make....he is a bit plump, i bet that makes him feel loved. this !" Nobody cares about the guys as long as the female is getting it.... Yep that about sums it up! | |||
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"its pretty simple, most meets its all about the female. Nobody cares about the guys as long as the female is getting it. Also, what kind of comment is that to make....he is a bit plump, i bet that makes him feel loved. this ! Nobody cares about the guys as long as the female is getting it.... Yep that about sums it up! " Not in my case! | |||
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"its pretty simple, most meets its all about the female. Nobody cares about the guys as long as the female is getting it. Also, what kind of comment is that to make....he is a bit plump, i bet that makes him feel loved. this ! Nobody cares about the guys as long as the female is getting it.... Yep that about sums it up! Not in my case! " Well I wouldn't know. But most of the time in clubs and parties the focus is on giving the ladies the attention, they rarely go out of their way to give guys attention... | |||
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"its pretty simple, most meets its all about the female. Nobody cares about the guys as long as the female is getting it. Also, what kind of comment is that to make....he is a bit plump, i bet that makes him feel loved. this ! Nobody cares about the guys as long as the female is getting it.... Yep that about sums it up! Not in my case! Well I wouldn't know. But most of the time in clubs and parties the focus is on giving the ladies the attention, they rarely go out of their way to give guys attention... " Well I’m not like that. Pleasure is two way, not one. | |||
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"It's starting to get really frustrating now. Almost all our messages seem to be targeted only at me and Jason gets left out. Hes kind, caring, generous and I think he's good looking with a great smile and kind eyes. Yet people don't want to know if he's involved. Yes he's a bit plump but he's generous and I love him dearly. He's helped me enjoy some wonderful mmf times and even during our group play he keeps getting left out. He says he doesn't mind but I am starting to feel guilty for enjoying myself while he only gets to please orally then gets sort of pushed out unless he notices me looking at him then he joins in with me. It's not right and not fair. I know it hurts him, he has often said he feels ugly or repulsive but he really isn't. Why are people so uncaring towards such a caring man. Sorry I've had a few drinks and watched him cry over some of the posts tonight. He didn't know I was still awake. " It's great that your Mr has facilitated you exploring. But Im not really sure what the sentiment of your post is. If people don't want to play with him are you suggesting they take one for the team? I'm sure he's a lovely fella but if he is being upset by your meets then you probably need to change the way you meet so he isn't upset but enjoys the experiences. Hope you work something out. Swinging is great when it's going well but it's a brutal way to highlight any issues too. So maybe press pause for a bit. | |||
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"Try a Mff with him see how you go. if he is usually sharing you with another man find out what its like for him ...... " Good idea. A woman always gets left out in a mff situation, usually the one familiar to the man...!!! | |||
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"Try a Mff with him see how you go. if he is usually sharing you with another man find out what its like for him ...... Good idea. A woman always gets left out in a mff situation, usually the one familiar to the man...!!! " Not in my experience, I make sure both ladies are having a good time.. | |||
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"Try a Mff with him see how you go. if he is usually sharing you with another man find out what its like for him ...... Good idea. A woman always gets left out in a mff situation, usually the one familiar to the man...!!! Not in my experience, I make sure both ladies are having a good time.. " I would not know about you but one does get left out as it’s impossible to give them both the same attention. | |||
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"Try a Mff with him see how you go. if he is usually sharing you with another man find out what its like for him ...... Good idea. A woman always gets left out in a mff situation, usually the one familiar to the man...!!! " Think you may find thats because its something new isn't that what couples are looking for if women get jealous over their man paying a lady attention and not you then swinging is not for that couple | |||
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"Try a Mff with him see how you go. if he is usually sharing you with another man find out what its like for him ...... Good idea. A woman always gets left out in a mff situation, usually the one familiar to the man...!!! Think you may find thats because its something new isn't that what couples are looking for if women get jealous over their man paying a lady attention and not you then swinging is not for that couple " There's a difference between paying a third party attention (acceptable) and your own partner being left out and cast aside (unacceptable) regardless if it's male or female | |||
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"Try a Mff with him see how you go. if he is usually sharing you with another man find out what its like for him ...... Good idea. A woman always gets left out in a mff situation, usually the one familiar to the man...!!! Think you may find thats because its something new isn't that what couples are looking for if women get jealous over their man paying a lady attention and not you then swinging is not for that couple There's a difference between paying a third party attention (acceptable) and your own partner being left out and cast aside (unacceptable) regardless if it's male or female " Totally agree x | |||
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"Try a Mff with him see how you go. if he is usually sharing you with another man find out what its like for him ...... Good idea. A woman always gets left out in a mff situation, usually the one familiar to the man...!!! Think you may find thats because its something new isn't that what couples are looking for if women get jealous over their man paying a lady attention and not you then swinging is not for that couple " It’s not ‘jealousy’ as such, more that a man can’t physically keep both women happy at the same time, for example he may choose the non familiar female for certain sexual satisfaction and the other will feel left out. Unless the man is an absolute animal one gets left out. It’s not a criticism. | |||
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"Try a Mff with him see how you go. if he is usually sharing you with another man find out what its like for him ...... Good idea. A woman always gets left out in a mff situation, usually the one familiar to the man...!!! Think you may find thats because its something new isn't that what couples are looking for if women get jealous over their man paying a lady attention and not you then swinging is not for that couple It’s not ‘jealousy’ as such, more that a man can’t physically keep both women happy at the same time, for example he may choose the non familiar female for certain sexual satisfaction and the other will feel left out. Unless the man is an absolute animal one gets left out. It’s not a criticism. " Think a lot of men on here will disagree they can breathe through their ears remember lol and I know you weren't critiscing just think a lot of situations are different and I do have to agree I have got lost in the moment and haven't really paid attention to what's going on with the other lady its hard to keep track but if a man wants ffm or mfmf then I think they should know how to do it properly xx | |||
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"Try a Mff with him see how you go. if he is usually sharing you with another man find out what its like for him ...... Good idea. A woman always gets left out in a mff situation, usually the one familiar to the man...!!! Think you may find thats because its something new isn't that what couples are looking for if women get jealous over their man paying a lady attention and not you then swinging is not for that couple It’s not ‘jealousy’ as such, more that a man can’t physically keep both women happy at the same time, for example he may choose the non familiar female for certain sexual satisfaction and the other will feel left out. Unless the man is an absolute animal one gets left out. It’s not a criticism. Think a lot of men on here will disagree they can breathe through their ears remember lol and I know you weren't critiscing just think a lot of situations are different and I do have to agree I have got lost in the moment and haven't really paid attention to what's going on with the other lady its hard to keep track but if a man wants ffm or mfmf then I think they should know how to do it properly xx " I totally agree that ALL should agree prior to the event and no one left out but unfortunately people are remiss towards others in these situations. | |||
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"Reading your response Jason, you’ll find this mainly a very supportive community who will be happy to talk things through with you. You haven’t said, but maybe you’re trying to ride two horses in terms of enjoying the cuck side but also wanting sex and attention at the same time? You can have whatever preferences you like, that’s what’s so liberating, but it could be that you end up giving mixed messages in a group setting where the ladies are not going to be at all sure if you are up for anything or are happiest just watching your partner. Thanks for the response and your right, this is a fantastic community here. I definitely not a cuck at all though, I'm just respectful of others when we play. I do get involved and have had lots of fun when everyone plays together. Just it sometimes ends up that I "run" the night lol. I am a pleaser. I get pleasure from making others feel good and seeing the smiles. I was a DJ for years and that's what drove me. Rhi always tries to make sure I'm never left out. She thinks it's more of an issue than it is during play. It's the messages that get to me though sometimes. Being called ugly on the daily hurts a bit but again it just means that the block list grows and I can keep them away from our play. Still hard not to let it get under my skin tho" This makes you sound like you'd be an amazing party host! | |||
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"Reading your response Jason, you’ll find this mainly a very supportive community who will be happy to talk things through with you. You haven’t said, but maybe you’re trying to ride two horses in terms of enjoying the cuck side but also wanting sex and attention at the same time? You can have whatever preferences you like, that’s what’s so liberating, but it could be that you end up giving mixed messages in a group setting where the ladies are not going to be at all sure if you are up for anything or are happiest just watching your partner. Thanks for the response and your right, this is a fantastic community here. I definitely not a cuck at all though, I'm just respectful of others when we play. I do get involved and have had lots of fun when everyone plays together. Just it sometimes ends up that I "run" the night lol. I am a pleaser. I get pleasure from making others feel good and seeing the smiles. I was a DJ for years and that's what drove me. Rhi always tries to make sure I'm never left out. She thinks it's more of an issue than it is during play. It's the messages that get to me though sometimes. Being called ugly on the daily hurts a bit but again it just means that the block list grows and I can keep them away from our play. Still hard not to let it get under my skin tho This makes you sound like you'd be an amazing party host!" We try. Only had one at home as it's a small place but when our favourite club was open we tried to help out as hosts | |||
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