FabSwingers.com forum: Queen of spades tattoo

By *levina OP Couple
over a year ago

coventry / london

Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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By *HaRiFMan
over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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I would imagine a tattoo parlour. Could you not get BBC lover tattooed instead.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

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By *uietlyKinkyUsCouple
over a year ago

midlands

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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Tattoos are permanent (Well mine haven't washed off and they've been there years

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Temporary suggests maybe henna??

But the whole concept isn't one I'm familiar with so is this a new fad?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hubby is a tattooist 2 miles outside of Coventry

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By *winkleFairyCouple
over a year ago

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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Tattoos are permanent (Well mine haven't washed off and they've been there years

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Temporary suggests maybe henna??

But the whole concept isn't one I'm familiar with so is this a new fad? "

Queen of spades to indicate a preference for black men is nothing new. It’s particularly popular with some hotwife / cuckold couples - you’ll see a lot of those accounts mentioning it and an awful lot of single male accounts that are black men playing to it with variations on ace of spades or king of spades etc.

Some like it. Some don’t.

Personally I don’t need a label to have a preference for black men!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Amazon is your friend

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By *aintscoupleCouple
over a year ago

st helens

not a good look if your in your bikini on a beach with the mother and sister in law

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They come off easily enough with baby oil or massage oil.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You can get semi permanent tattoos from the tattoo shop/parlour. The ink fades away after a few months i believe. I would imagine it would start to look naff when it starts to fade though.

Some of the pictures I've seen look more like transfers than real tattoos though, like the tattoos transfers you used to get as a kid.

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By *nya888Woman
over a year ago

London

"Amazon is your friend

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By *ee And MikeCouple
over a year ago

Cannock

We brought some of Amazon a couple of years ago for her to wear on holiday for her 50th birthday, they do come off easily if you swim in the sea though lol

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

I'd caution about getting anything permanent.

At the moment I'd say reaction to such a tattoo is about 50/50 with some thinking it's a bit of fun others would be more concerned about the origins.

The way the world is going I can only see the origins of such a phrase becoming more problematic.

There is nothing wrong with having an attraction or sexual preference but the origins of the word spade may not always be without controversy so I would suggest getting something temporary and for that Google is your friend.

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall

Amazon has loads of temporary ones.

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By *ass and kinkWoman
over a year ago

kinxville

why not just buy the necklace or anklet....

The tattoos are slightly tacky really...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Was the common consensus on here not that these tattoos are racist

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally wouldn’t bother with a QoS tattoo! There are very mixed opinions on them within the black community from what I know, some love them and some hate them. Maybe something less permanent like jewellery with the QoS symbol on or something? Ultimately it’s your wife’s body and her choice, but I’d advise against it! You can still have a preference for black men and women without getting it tattooed on your body

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By *rimKardashianMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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Hey! Hope everyone is well this evening.

First things first, so we're all singing off the same hymn sheet, Black people aren't a monolith so my opinions are mine alone and not representative of my entire race.

Now that's clear, my personal view is that it is kind of cringe. Under a more critical 'modern gaze' the idea of a 'Queen of Spades' is rather problematic...

I wouldn't avoid someone with such a tattoo but then I wouldn't make a beeline to them either though many would.

Quite a few people are saying similar things on this thread so I'll add that whilst it isn't ideal (for myself) it wouldn't be a complete deal-breaker either maybe but probably seems far, far easier to avoid any need for needles and just use a transfer/wear a necklace than to PERMANENTLY tattoo said preference on your skin till the end of time.

P.s saying you like Black men rather than 'BBC' works just fine.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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You can het temporary ones on ebay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

wish mine was a BBC lover

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Omg why have i never heard this before. Im going to be checking out everyine i see now for QOS

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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We bought some temp ones from eBay and Amazon, we also got a queen of spades necklace

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"not a good look if your in your bikini on a beach with the mother and sister in law

lol made me chuckle, could always say I'm a fan of poker

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By *isshorny247Couple
over a year ago

wallsend

So very true at is x

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By *adyVoluptuousWoman
over a year ago

A Castle In The

Nobody loves black men more than me and I've not got or ever will have a QOS tattoo. Its a bit cringe in my opinion

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By *atexbisexTV/TS
over a year ago

Central London

"why not just buy the necklace or anklet....

The tattoos are slightly tacky really... "

I have the necklace

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

I'm always learning didn't know Queen of Spades have that meaning

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By *winkleFairyCouple
over a year ago

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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Hey! Hope everyone is well this evening.

First things first, so we're all singing off the same hymn sheet, Black people aren't a monolith so my opinions are mine alone and not representative of my entire race.

Now that's clear, my personal view is that it is kind of cringe. Under a more critical 'modern gaze' the idea of a 'Queen of Spades' is rather problematic...

I wouldn't avoid someone with such a tattoo but then I wouldn't make a beeline to them either though many would.

P.s saying you like Black men rather than 'BBC' works just fine.

GK"

Amen to this.

No one is a BBC.

You can have one, but it’s far from anyone’s defining characteristic and I hate that it’s used to describe a person.

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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Hey! Hope everyone is well this evening.

First things first, so we're all singing off the same hymn sheet, Black people aren't a monolith so my opinions are mine alone and not representative of my entire race.

Now that's clear, my personal view is that it is kind of cringe. Under a more critical 'modern gaze' the idea of a 'Queen of Spades' is rather problematic...

I wouldn't avoid someone with such a tattoo but then I wouldn't make a beeline to them either though many would.

P.s saying you like Black men rather than 'BBC' works just fine.

Amen to this.

No one is a BBC.

You can have one, but it’s far from anyone’s defining characteristic and I hate that it’s used to describe a person. "

Although I agree with this 100%, there are a number of black men who take the BBC description with pride and cannot see the issues. They see it as harmless fun. Similar to when POC use the N word it makes it very difficult to explain to certain white people why these terms are just plain wrong.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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Hey! Hope everyone is well this evening.

First things first, so we're all singing off the same hymn sheet, Black people aren't a monolith so my opinions are mine alone and not representative of my entire race.

Now that's clear, my personal view is that it is kind of cringe. Under a more critical 'modern gaze' the idea of a 'Queen of Spades' is rather problematic...

I wouldn't avoid someone with such a tattoo but then I wouldn't make a beeline to them either though many would.

P.s saying you like Black men rather than 'BBC' works just fine.

GK"

Great post, of the highest quality!

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By *entakuruMan
over a year ago

Exeter

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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I would imagine a tattoo parlour. Could you not get BBC lover tattooed instead. "

"World Service"

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By *ancsduoCouple
over a year ago

Morecambe

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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You can get temp ones from eBay if your not sure.

Try and see if you like.

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By *winkleFairyCouple
over a year ago

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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Hey! Hope everyone is well this evening.

First things first, so we're all singing off the same hymn sheet, Black people aren't a monolith so my opinions are mine alone and not representative of my entire race.

Now that's clear, my personal view is that it is kind of cringe. Under a more critical 'modern gaze' the idea of a 'Queen of Spades' is rather problematic...

I wouldn't avoid someone with such a tattoo but then I wouldn't make a beeline to them either though many would.

P.s saying you like Black men rather than 'BBC' works just fine.

Amen to this.

No one is a BBC.

You can have one, but it’s far from anyone’s defining characteristic and I hate that it’s used to describe a person.

If that’s on their terms then more power to them! I’m all about that. It’s similar to women reclaiming the word slut.

But I was talking about predominantly white men and white women using the term to describe black men. It’s not something that sits well with me personally.

Not to mention the fact not all black men are well endowed.

For me, if a black man is well endowed I’d rather say he has a BBC than say he is a BBC. To me, as a white woman, it’s a subtle but important difference.

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By *ensualMan
over a year ago

Sutton

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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Hey! Hope everyone is well this evening.

First things first, so we're all singing off the same hymn sheet, Black people aren't a monolith so my opinions are mine alone and not representative of my entire race.

Now that's clear, my personal view is that it is kind of cringe. Under a more critical 'modern gaze' the idea of a 'Queen of Spades' is rather problematic...

I wouldn't avoid someone with such a tattoo but then I wouldn't make a beeline to them either though many would.

P.s saying you like Black men rather than 'BBC' works just fine.

Amen to this.

No one is a BBC.

You can have one, but it’s far from anyone’s defining characteristic and I hate that it’s used to describe a person.

If that’s on their terms then more power to them! I’m all about that. It’s similar to women reclaiming the word slut.

But I was talking about predominantly white men and white women using the term to describe black men. It’s not something that sits well with me personally.

Not to mention the fact not all black men are well endowed.

For me, if a black man is well endowed I’d rather say he has a BBC than say he is a BBC. To me, as a white woman, it’s a subtle but important difference. "

When women go on slut walks and reclaim the word slut, it is not so that they can be called sluts or other women to be called sluts. It is on order to make the point that who a woman sleeps with and how many (or how little) is nobody's business other than there own. It is done to oppose stereotyping of women, particularly as shown in claims by defendants in cases of r@pe.

When black men call themselves BBC they are playing up to the stereotype in order to get laid. By doing so it creates a legacy of people thinking it is acceptable to call other black men BBC and that all black men on the scene are there to be fetishised.

Therefore there is a big difference between the two situations one is opposing stereotyping the other is pandering to it.

In regard to your other point all they need to do is state "well endowed" or let a picture or verifications do the talking.

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By *winkleFairyCouple
over a year ago

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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Hey! Hope everyone is well this evening.

First things first, so we're all singing off the same hymn sheet, Black people aren't a monolith so my opinions are mine alone and not representative of my entire race.

Now that's clear, my personal view is that it is kind of cringe. Under a more critical 'modern gaze' the idea of a 'Queen of Spades' is rather problematic...

I wouldn't avoid someone with such a tattoo but then I wouldn't make a beeline to them either though many would.

P.s saying you like Black men rather than 'BBC' works just fine.

Amen to this.

No one is a BBC.

You can have one, but it’s far from anyone’s defining characteristic and I hate that it’s used to describe a person.

If that’s on their terms then more power to them! I’m all about that. It’s similar to women reclaiming the word slut.

But I was talking about predominantly white men and white women using the term to describe black men. It’s not something that sits well with me personally.

Not to mention the fact not all black men are well endowed.

For me, if a black man is well endowed I’d rather say he has a BBC than say he is a BBC. To me, as a white woman, it’s a subtle but important difference.

Therefore there is a big difference between the two situations one is opposing stereotyping the other is pandering to it.

In regard to your other point all they need to do is state "well endowed" or let a picture or verifications do the talking.

Please don’t mansplain the concept of reclaiming and being empowered by using the term slut to describe yourself (which FYI is a thing - I wasn’t referring to slut walks at all in my comment). I wouldn’t dream of trying to tell you your understanding of why some men do or don’t use certain terms relevant to black people is wrong.

If you’d like to to understand more about women reclaiming and using the word slut, I’d suggest reading the Ethical Slut is a great starting point.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Some excellent, erudite contributions to the thread (in my opinion) covering subject matter which is usually commented on the most superficial, stereotypical terms

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dont think in the current climate blm etc a coloured person would like being referd too as a spade or anytime? As in black as ace of spades just my opinion

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By *ilky_CocoPuffsCouple
over a year ago

Luton

Totally agree. Yes, I am a black man but I want to be looked at as a person and not a "black cock", you know?

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By *ldhillhotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Old Hill

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

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As already answered you can get loads of temporary stickers/tattoos from Amazon or get a henna pen and do your own...

Mine are all permanent and done by a lovely female tattoo artist locally. If your wife is dedicated to black guys we think it's only right you show some dedication to the guys that you have that preference for with something permanent and visible.

I know plenty of people don't like them on here but never had someone take offence in person in person in the lifestyle.

I don't feel ashamed of my tattoos when people notice them, just tell them it means I like black guys... Not embarrassed to fancy black guys and my family and friends know that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I knew when I clicked on this thread, the same people would chime in with their opinions....

The lady asked about a permanent or temporary QOS spade tattoo..... Not what your opinions on the terms QOS/BBC are......

Honest question to all the BBC/QOS haters.....

Did you sign up to Fabswingers to meet great people for great sex?

Did you sign up to make sure the term’s BBC and QOS are abolished from the swinging lexicon?

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By *laire KinkyTV/TS
over a year ago

Coventry

I’m not technically a woman but I want this tattoo. On my ankle x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I knew when I clicked on this thread, the same people would chime in with their opinions....

The lady asked about a permanent or temporary QOS spade tattoo..... Not what your opinions on the terms QOS/BBC are......

Honest question to all the BBC/QOS haters.....

Did you sign up to Fabswingers to meet great people for great sex?

Did you sign up to make sure the term’s BBC and QOS are abolished from the swinging lexicon?"

People have a right to use whatever terms they like, others have a right to voice their opinion on it. If folk are referring to black guys as 'spades' they should expect some fallout and questions about racism.

Race play is a fetish just as, for example, cnc, and I'm not one to kink shame. I don't think the majority of QoS tattoo owners are sporting them as part of a race play scene though. A disappointing amount seem to either be ignorant of language or worse, just don't care.

Whilst I'm here, the opposition to QoS Vs BBC is a subtly different one imo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't realise we went back to the 1970s where calling black people spades was a done thing. Whatever next gollywogs?

It has so many racist and power connotations, Spade has been a derogatory term for black people as long as i have been alive and proclaiming to be royalty suggests a dominance over them.

I saw on the news the other week that pubs called the black boy were being slated but somehow being the queen of spades is accepable?

The mind boggles!

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I knew when I clicked on this thread, the same people would chime in with their opinions....

The lady asked about a permanent or temporary QOS spade tattoo..... Not what your opinions on the terms QOS/BBC are......

Honest question to all the BBC/QOS haters.....

Did you sign up to Fabswingers to meet great people for great sex?

Did you sign up to make sure the term’s BBC and QOS are abolished from the swinging lexicon?"

Personally I feel it's perfectly appropriate to highlight language and behaviour which people might be using unaware of the social significance and history attached to that language/behaviour, what they choose to do with that information is a matter for them.

The term 'spade' is deeply offensive to black people, so why use it when there are so many other ways to express a preference for black men.

The other issue is acceptance of such language brings it acceptance into common parlance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I knew when I clicked on this thread, the same people would chime in with their opinions....

The lady asked about a permanent or temporary QOS spade tattoo..... Not what your opinions on the terms QOS/BBC are......

Honest question to all the BBC/QOS haters.....

Did you sign up to Fabswingers to meet great people for great sex?

Did you sign up to make sure the term’s BBC and QOS are abolished from the swinging lexicon?

The term 'spade' is deeply offensive to black people, so why use it when there are so many other ways to express a preference for black men.

The other issue is acceptance of such language brings it acceptance into common parlance."

You and I have debated this subject for as long as I have been on Fab....

While you are correct.... the term spade is highly offensive.... it is a acceptable term used in the porn industry.....

Now can you imagine a political correction porn industry?

Imagine searching for images and videos without terms like BBC, BBW, QOS?

In essence that’s what you are advocating for?

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By *ostonJoeMan
over a year ago

Boston

Ebay. Queen of spades tattoo. 3 BBC tattoo. Temporary £3.75 for 10. Does not guarantee 10 BBC's to play with tho.

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

"Was the common consensus on here not that these tattoos are racist

I don't think there has ever been consensus on the forum.

About anything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ebay. Queen of spades tattoo. 3 BBC tattoo. Temporary £3.75 for 10. Does not guarantee 10 BBC's to play with tho.

Free advertising thanks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

While you are correct.... the term spade is highly offensive.... it is a acceptable term used in the porn industry.....

Now can you imagine a political correction porn industry?

Imagine searching for images and videos without terms like BBC, BBW, QOS?

In essence that’s what you are advocating for?

This post wasn't aimed at me but you didn't address my previous post so I'm just going to go ahead and tackle this one anyway.

Where is the evidence/example that the term 'spade' is an acceptable term in the porn industry? I watch a lot of porn (ikr) and I've never heard a black guy called a 'spade'. It's a racist term.

You group the acronyms BBC, BBW and QoS together, yet only one of those contains a racial slur.

'BBC' is reductionist but I can kinda give leeway in a fetish sense.

'BBW' is similar, albeit less reductionist and more descriptive (Perhaps not, it's a difficult subject).

'QoS' contains a racial slur and, outside of a consenting race play scene (which let's be honest, isn't the case in near every example on the fab forums) is rightfully challenged.

I just want to repeat my original question here, where is calling a black person a 'spade' acceptable or common in porn?

Ignorant or willfully indifferent, which are you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have worn a QoS Tattoo with black guys and on every occasion it was the guy that requested I wear it.

If I was to meet someone that didnt want me to wear it then I wouldnt. However most guys I have spoken to have said they like my photos that show the tattoo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That doesn't make it not racist.

Why is this difficult to understand?

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By *winkleFairyCouple
over a year ago

While you are correct.... the term spade is highly offensive.... it is a acceptable term used in the porn industry.....

Now can you imagine a political correction porn industry?

Imagine searching for images and videos without terms like BBC, BBW, QOS?

In essence that’s what you are advocating for?

This post wasn't aimed at me but you didn't address my previous post so I'm just going to go ahead and tackle this one anyway.

Where is the evidence/example that the term 'spade' is an acceptable term in the porn industry? I watch a lot of porn (ikr) and I've never heard a black guy called a 'spade'. It's a racist term.

You group the acronyms BBC, BBW and QoS together, yet only one of those contains a racial slur.

'BBC' is reductionist but I can kinda give leeway in a fetish sense.

'BBW' is similar, albeit less reductionist and more descriptive (Perhaps not, it's a difficult subject).

'QoS' contains a racial slur and, outside of a consenting race play scene (which let's be honest, isn't the case in near every example on the fab forums) is rightfully challenged.

I just want to repeat my original question here, where is calling a black person a 'spade' acceptable or common in porn?

Ignorant or willfully indifferent, which are you?"

It’s an interesting point.

I had never come across the term spade (apart from the gardening implement) until I became involved in the swinging lifestyle. Whilst I’m not saying it isn’t sometimes used as a racist slur, I don’t think it’s all that common. Or certainly not where I grew up.

I think perhaps in the lifestyle it appears to be more commonly used because of the prevalence of a preference for black men amongst some women and MF couples. I have never really seen the term used anywhere else - both the concept of QoS / AoS or the racial slur.

I’ve personally never seen it used in pornography - I think that particular niche is dominated by the term BBC to the exclusion of almost everything else.

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By *ldhillhotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Old Hill

The term spade isn't being used outside of the consenting race play space though.

I have certainly been asked and heard much worse language within the scene from and at the request of the black guys I was with.

There needs to be some separation between lifestyle and normal life. Let's be honest the two things don't really mix.

In lifestyle I am a cumslut and happy to be called and described as such but I wouldn't like to be called that at work or in the pub with my friends.

My tattoo's are the same, a symbol of submission and dedication to black guys in lifestyle and a playing card outside of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being unaware of the word's racist meaning is an interesting one (it didn't occur to me that some may not know). Still, it's not just about "I see it as xyz" is it? It's also how others see it and the offence it causes.

I also don't think IR sex between swingers is race play, I was think more stuff you'd find on FL although tbf I'm no expert.

Anyway, I don't want to be too antagonistic so I'll just leave it as, the word has a racist meaning, surely we can be better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

While you are correct.... the term spade is highly offensive.... it is a acceptable term used in the porn industry.....

Now can you imagine a political correction porn industry?

Imagine searching for images and videos without terms like BBC, BBW, QOS?

In essence that’s what you are advocating for?

This post wasn't aimed at me but you didn't address my previous post so I'm just going to go ahead and tackle this one anyway.

Where is the evidence/example that the term 'spade' is an acceptable term in the porn industry? I watch a lot of porn (ikr) and I've never heard a black guy called a 'spade'. It's a racist term.

You group the acronyms BBC, BBW and QoS together, yet only one of those contains a racial slur.

'BBC' is reductionist but I can kinda give leeway in a fetish sense.

'BBW' is similar, albeit less reductionist and more descriptive (Perhaps not, it's a difficult subject).

'QoS' contains a racial slur and, outside of a consenting race play scene (which let's be honest, isn't the case in near every example on the fab forums) is rightfully challenged.

I just want to repeat my original question here, where is calling a black person a 'spade' acceptable or common in porn?

Ignorant or willfully indifferent, which are you?"

Here is my stance on this...... you can not come into a community and ask the majority to bow down to your standards..... the swinging scene was here before you and it will be here after you....

The term Queen of Spade is usually used to describe a tattoo or jewelry... It’s intended use is to identify a female that is looking for attention from black men.... the term spade can describe a symbol of a playing card or a gardening tool....

I have yet to hear someone call a black man a spade in the lifestyle to demean him....

So as a black man we have a choice......

If we see a female at a party wearing a queen of spade tattoo or jewelry.... we can introduce ourselves and try to build a friendship leading to sex or we can admonish her for her choice in tattoos and jewelry....

Now I don’t know about anyone else but if I’m going to a swinging party ... I’m there to have sex not a heated political debate.....

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By *ldhillhotwifeCouple
over a year ago

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While you are correct.... the term spade is highly offensive.... it is a acceptable term used in the porn industry.....

Now can you imagine a political correction porn industry?

Imagine searching for images and videos without terms like BBC, BBW, QOS?

In essence that’s what you are advocating for?

This post wasn't aimed at me but you didn't address my previous post so I'm just going to go ahead and tackle this one anyway.

Where is the evidence/example that the term 'spade' is an acceptable term in the porn industry? I watch a lot of porn (ikr) and I've never heard a black guy called a 'spade'. It's a racist term.

You group the acronyms BBC, BBW and QoS together, yet only one of those contains a racial slur.

'BBC' is reductionist but I can kinda give leeway in a fetish sense.

'BBW' is similar, albeit less reductionist and more descriptive (Perhaps not, it's a difficult subject).

'QoS' contains a racial slur and, outside of a consenting race play scene (which let's be honest, isn't the case in near every example on the fab forums) is rightfully challenged.

I just want to repeat my original question here, where is calling a black person a 'spade' acceptable or common in porn?

Ignorant or willfully indifferent, which are you?

Here is my stance on this...... you can not come into a community and ask the majority to bow down to your standards..... the swinging scene was here before you and it will be here after you....

I have yet to hear someone call a black man a spade in the lifestyle to demean him....

So as a black man we have a choice......

Now I don’t know about anyone else but if I’m going to a swinging party ... I’m there to have sex not a heated political debate.....

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over a year ago

While you are correct.... the term spade is highly offensive.... it is a acceptable term used in the porn industry.....

Now can you imagine a political correction porn industry?

Imagine searching for images and videos without terms like BBC, BBW, QOS?

In essence that’s what you are advocating for?

This post wasn't aimed at me but you didn't address my previous post so I'm just going to go ahead and tackle this one anyway.

Where is the evidence/example that the term 'spade' is an acceptable term in the porn industry? I watch a lot of porn (ikr) and I've never heard a black guy called a 'spade'. It's a racist term.

You group the acronyms BBC, BBW and QoS together, yet only one of those contains a racial slur.

'BBC' is reductionist but I can kinda give leeway in a fetish sense.

'BBW' is similar, albeit less reductionist and more descriptive (Perhaps not, it's a difficult subject).

'QoS' contains a racial slur and, outside of a consenting race play scene (which let's be honest, isn't the case in near every example on the fab forums) is rightfully challenged.

I just want to repeat my original question here, where is calling a black person a 'spade' acceptable or common in porn?

Ignorant or willfully indifferent, which are you?

Here is my stance on this...... you can not come into a community and ask the majority to bow down to your standards..... the swinging scene was here before you and it will be here after you....

I have yet to hear someone call a black man a spade in the lifestyle to demean him....

So as a black man we have a choice......

Now I don’t know about anyone else but if I’m going to a swinging party ... I’m there to have sex not a heated political debate.....

Ok m8, I can see the nuances here aren't really in your wheelhouse. Have fun.

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By *all-Eddies QosCouple
over a year ago

wirral

"Hi guys we have many women having a tattoo of queen of spades which shows they love bbc.. Are these tattoos permanent or wher do you get them... Mrs needs one

Thanks "

eBay and Amazon sell temporary tattoos.

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over a year ago

While you are correct.... the term spade is highly offensive.... it is a acceptable term used in the porn industry.....

Now can you imagine a political correction porn industry?

Imagine searching for images and videos without terms like BBC, BBW, QOS?

In essence that’s what you are advocating for?

This post wasn't aimed at me but you didn't address my previous post so I'm just going to go ahead and tackle this one anyway.

Where is the evidence/example that the term 'spade' is an acceptable term in the porn industry? I watch a lot of porn (ikr) and I've never heard a black guy called a 'spade'. It's a racist term.

You group the acronyms BBC, BBW and QoS together, yet only one of those contains a racial slur.

'BBC' is reductionist but I can kinda give leeway in a fetish sense.

'BBW' is similar, albeit less reductionist and more descriptive (Perhaps not, it's a difficult subject).

'QoS' contains a racial slur and, outside of a consenting race play scene (which let's be honest, isn't the case in near every example on the fab forums) is rightfully challenged.

I just want to repeat my original question here, where is calling a black person a 'spade' acceptable or common in porn?

Ignorant or willfully indifferent, which are you?

Here is my stance on this...... you can not come into a community and ask the majority to bow down to your standards..... the swinging scene was here before you and it will be here after you....

I have yet to hear someone call a black man a spade in the lifestyle to demean him....

So as a black man we have a choice......

Now I don’t know about anyone else but if I’m going to a swinging party ... I’m there to have sex not a heated political debate.....

Ok m8, I can see the nuances here aren't really in your wheelhouse. Have fun."

Lol you know something..... context is everything in life....

For example in China and Vietnam some people eat dog meat.... to the rest of the world that is looked down upon.... Does that mean everyone that eats dog meat hates dogs?

My point in all’s these BBC/QOS threads is this... for a small minority in the swinging community they find these terms offensive and fetishizing... which is totally in your rights to express your feelings.....

Now it is also my right to bring up the fact I have seen people eat dog meat in China and Vietnam in every Asian appreciation threads....

But would that really make people that enjoy dog meat stop eating dog meat?

You can’t change the world, you can only change yourself.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I just thought my mum really liked playing cards......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh, thats what it means..

I just thought a lot of female Motorhead fans were dyslexic.

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over a year ago

While you are correct.... the term spade is highly offensive.... it is a acceptable term used in the porn industry.....

Now can you imagine a political correction porn industry?

Imagine searching for images and videos without terms like BBC, BBW, QOS?

In essence that’s what you are advocating for?

This post wasn't aimed at me but you didn't address my previous post so I'm just going to go ahead and tackle this one anyway.

Where is the evidence/example that the term 'spade' is an acceptable term in the porn industry? I watch a lot of porn (ikr) and I've never heard a black guy called a 'spade'. It's a racist term.

You group the acronyms BBC, BBW and QoS together, yet only one of those contains a racial slur.

'BBC' is reductionist but I can kinda give leeway in a fetish sense.

'BBW' is similar, albeit less reductionist and more descriptive (Perhaps not, it's a difficult subject).

'QoS' contains a racial slur and, outside of a consenting race play scene (which let's be honest, isn't the case in near every example on the fab forums) is rightfully challenged.

I just want to repeat my original question here, where is calling a black person a 'spade' acceptable or common in porn?

Ignorant or willfully indifferent, which are you?

Here is my stance on this...... you can not come into a community and ask the majority to bow down to your standards..... the swinging scene was here before you and it will be here after you....

I have yet to hear someone call a black man a spade in the lifestyle to demean him....

So as a black man we have a choice......

Now I don’t know about anyone else but if I’m going to a swinging party ... I’m there to have sex not a heated political debate.....

Ok m8, I can see the nuances here aren't really in your wheelhouse. Have fun.

Lol you know something..... context is everything in life....

For example in China and Vietnam some people eat dog meat.... to the rest of the world that is looked down upon.... Does that mean everyone that eats dog meat hates dogs?

Now it is also my right to bring up the fact I have seen people eat dog meat in China and Vietnam in every Asian appreciation threads....

But would that really make people that enjoy dog meat stop eating dog meat?

You can’t change the world, you can only change yourself.....

I don't think it's a small minority that find the term 'spade' offensive.

I also agree and think it's weird how in the west we deem some animals ok to eat whilst others aren't. Eating beef shouldn't be seen as different to eating dog, for e.g. (disclosure, I was in a 6 year relationship with a Vietnamese vegetarian, if that makes a difference).

Every post you make just makes me wonder why I respond tbh, you just don't get it. I'm sure you're a sound guy and all but I just don't think we'll see eye to eye on this one.