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"My advice to you would be, as a great man twice said; "Fuck her right in the pussy."" If that becomes an option that we're all comfortable with - it will happen! | |||
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"Yes. Talk to the women concerned and explain your concerns. Be very wary of getting involved with a woman who has come out of an abusive relationship as anything other than a friend." The abusive relationship was many many years ago, fortunately. She's just told me recently because we've not seen each other in years. Talking to both of them is certainly a good idea, but I'm worried that if I've read the situation incorrectly, that I'll alienate the friend (who has sent me very intimate photos!) and pissing of my fiancée (who has seen the photos and not even flinched!) I have a habit of overthinking things though. BUT - my fiancée has recently said no to swapping with a friend and his wife that I've known for 20 odd years, but not seen for the last 18 of those. But she seems to enjoy me talking with my female friend. I'll keep the conversations between myself and my friend helpful I think. Post the plague we've all agreed to meet up for a drink to catch up in person. The photoshoot will be at a later date, so we'll see where the conversation goes over a drink. | |||
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"I think be straight up about everything with everyone. Its a disaster waiting to happen otherwise! " But - what if I'm totally reading them both wrong? And I fuck a friendship up and piss off my fiancée? | |||
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"If there wasn't a lockdown at the moment I'd be organising you a parade" Well, there's nothing to celebrate for.... yet If it happens and we have our first MFF, I'll be sure to ask for that parade | |||
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"Yes. Talk to the women concerned and explain your concerns. Be very wary of getting involved with a woman who has come out of an abusive relationship as anything other than a friend. The abusive relationship was many many years ago, fortunately. She's just told me recently because we've not seen each other in years. Talking to both of them is certainly a good idea, but I'm worried that if I've read the situation incorrectly, that I'll alienate the friend (who has sent me very intimate photos!) and pissing of my fiancée (who has seen the photos and not even flinched!) I have a habit of overthinking things though. BUT - my fiancée has recently said no to swapping with a friend and his wife that I've known for 20 odd years, but not seen for the last 18 of those. But she seems to enjoy me talking with my female friend. I'll keep the conversations between myself and my friend helpful I think. Post the plague we've all agreed to meet up for a drink to catch up in person. The photoshoot will be at a later date, so we'll see where the conversation goes over a drink." If you don't talk to them you will never know if you've misread the situation until it all goes horribly wrong. If your fiancée has seen the messages and photos why haven't you talked? Her silence on the matter speaks volumes to m If I remain silent on a matter it means I am just giving someone enough rope to hang themselves | |||
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"If you don't talk to them you will never know if you've misread the situation until it all goes horribly wrong. If your fiancée has seen the messages and photos why haven't you talked? Her silence on the matter speaks volumes to m If I remain silent on a matter it means I am just giving someone enough rope to hang themselves" She's not like that fortunately. Not a malicious bone in her body. If she had a problem with it, shed be the first to let me know! I'm wary of talking about it with her because of how she's just rejected the idea of my other friend and his wife. She was upfront about that. And we've not swung for about two years now, so she's a little insecure about it. Added to that the stress she's under as a key worker doing 80 hours overtime a month on top of already long shifts. I don't want to seem like I'm pushing her into something, but at the same time - the signs seem to be there and I don't want to miss an opportunity! If the current situation was different, we'd have all met up by now and I'd probably not even be asking the question... | |||
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"If you don't talk to them you will never know if you've misread the situation until it all goes horribly wrong. If your fiancée has seen the messages and photos why haven't you talked? Her silence on the matter speaks volumes to m If I remain silent on a matter it means I am just giving someone enough rope to hang themselves She's not like that fortunately. Not a malicious bone in her body. If she had a problem with it, shed be the first to let me know! I'm wary of talking about it with her because of how she's just rejected the idea of my other friend and his wife. She was upfront about that. And we've not swung for about two years now, so she's a little insecure about it. Added to that the stress she's under as a key worker doing 80 hours overtime a month on top of already long shifts. I don't want to seem like I'm pushing her into something, but at the same time - the signs seem to be there and I don't want to miss an opportunity! If the current situation was different, we'd have all met up by now and I'd probably not even be asking the question... " I should add, we have talked to make sure she's ok with my friend and I talking about stuff. She is absolutely fine with it, but hasn't said much else. She's so busy and working so hard | |||
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"If you don't talk to them you will never know if you've misread the situation until it all goes horribly wrong. If your fiancée has seen the messages and photos why haven't you talked? Her silence on the matter speaks volumes to m If I remain silent on a matter it means I am just giving someone enough rope to hang themselves She's not like that fortunately. Not a malicious bone in her body. If she had a problem with it, shed be the first to let me know! I'm wary of talking about it with her because of how she's just rejected the idea of my other friend and his wife. She was upfront about that. And we've not swung for about two years now, so she's a little insecure about it. Added to that the stress she's under as a key worker doing 80 hours overtime a month on top of already long shifts. I don't want to seem like I'm pushing her into something, but at the same time - the signs seem to be there and I don't want to miss an opportunity! If the current situation was different, we'd have all met up by now and I'd probably not even be asking the question... " I'm not malicious either. Well if you feel ok going on signs rather than talking you'll have to see how things go. Good luck | |||
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"I'm not malicious either. Well if you feel ok going on signs rather than talking you'll have to see how things go. Good luck" Well, lockdown will be on for a while yet, so plenty of time to see how things develop | |||
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" I'm wary of talking about it with her because of how she's just rejected the idea of my other friend and his wife. She was upfront about that. And we've not swung for about two years now, so she's a little insecure about it. " Maybe she just didn't fancy the other friend? | |||
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"Mr HLC here... Incoming wall of text I’ve recently reconnected with an old friend on FB. Didn’t think much of it until a few messages in. She was telling me about her abusive ex, and a guy that was messing her around. The conversation got into how she hasn’t been able to explore her sexuality because of him. She’s since told me about her experiences with a couple who she was friends with. For the last few days, we’ve discussing sex and I’ve been helping her read up on different kinks, and introduced her to the term ‘unicorn’ (which she was very excited about!) Since then she’s signed up on here (no, I’m not pointing her out to you ) From being on FAB I’ve helped her with her profile; how to recognise fakes; etc. She’s sent me some intimate photos for some advice on what’s good for here (only a handful of them are any good.) I’ve said that when the plague has gone, she can come to ours, I’ll set my studio up and take some FAB suitable photos for her. Her and I had one enjoyable evening together many many years ago, so we already know each other intimately. Mrs HLC has been fully aware of everything throughout, has seen the photos and will be there at the photoshoot. They’re also friends on FB. She has read all of the messages and has no issues at all. Here’s the thing: I’m feeling a little weird about this. My natural instinct is “Why isn’t Mrs HLC bothered about this at all?” After all, I’m having intimate discussions with someone I’ve slept with, while Mrs HLC isn’t involved. The photos she sent were of poor quality but, well, arousing. Very arousing. The photoshoot will be very intimate, with some explicit photos. The way they’re both talking to me about it (though not to each other) it might end up being more than a photoshoot. How do I navigate this? I kinda feel like they both know something will happen but I’m staying detached, friendly and as far as the photoshoot, professional. If we do end up in a threesome, I’m not good at spontaneous stuff. I like rules, knowing everyone’s boundaries beforehand, and I don’t want to damage any part of any relationship. Any advice?" maybe you're over thinking your over thinking the woman sounds a tad gullible to me but well done you....... photoshoot | |||
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"Will your fiancee see this thread and be annoyed that you didn't talk to her before posting the question here? " Mr LHC here. She checks this thread regularly - we both have access to and use our account She knew I was going to ask for advice on here before I did so. Anywho, we talked for about three hours yesterday. She admitted that the idea of me talking to our friend (they’re friends now and have arranged to meet up once the plague has gone ) without her around, and then her catching up on the conversation later, was arousing for her. Though she’s not sure why. Just to clarify - I’m asking for advice here because they both seem to want to explore a threesome when we meet up, but I wanted advice on how to make sure they’re ok. Our friend thought we were going to ask for a threesome (which we were not) and last night Mrs LHC fantasied about one while we were in bed I just don’t want anybody to get hurt | |||
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"Mr HLC here... Incoming wall of text I’ve recently reconnected with an old friend on FB. Didn’t think much of it until a few messages in. She was telling me about her abusive ex, and a guy that was messing her around. The conversation got into how she hasn’t been able to explore her sexuality because of him. She’s since told me about her experiences with a couple who she was friends with. For the last few days, we’ve discussing sex and I’ve been helping her read up on different kinks, and introduced her to the term ‘unicorn’ (which she was very excited about!) Since then she’s signed up on here (no, I’m not pointing her out to you ) From being on FAB I’ve helped her with her profile; how to recognise fakes; etc. She’s sent me some intimate photos for some advice on what’s good for here (only a handful of them are any good.) I’ve said that when the plague has gone, she can come to ours, I’ll set my studio up and take some FAB suitable photos for her. Her and I had one enjoyable evening together many many years ago, so we already know each other intimately. Mrs HLC has been fully aware of everything throughout, has seen the photos and will be there at the photoshoot. They’re also friends on FB. She has read all of the messages and has no issues at all. Here’s the thing: I’m feeling a little weird about this. My natural instinct is “Why isn’t Mrs HLC bothered about this at all?” After all, I’m having intimate discussions with someone I’ve slept with, while Mrs HLC isn’t involved. The photos she sent were of poor quality but, well, arousing. Very arousing. The photoshoot will be very intimate, with some explicit photos. The way they’re both talking to me about it (though not to each other) it might end up being more than a photoshoot. How do I navigate this? I kinda feel like they both know something will happen but I’m staying detached, friendly and as far as the photoshoot, professional. If we do end up in a threesome, I’m not good at spontaneous stuff. I like rules, knowing everyone’s boundaries beforehand, and I don’t want to damage any part of any relationship. Any advice?" Jesus. That escalated quickly! Lol. | |||
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"Jesus. That escalated quickly! Lol. " Yeah. Seems to have moved very quickly from reconnecting with an old friend, to my fiancée being stressed and saying stuff that she didn’t really feel (jealous and insecure.) She fantasied about it - out loud - in bed the other day All a bit of a confusing shock to my system tbh. | |||
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"Jesus. That escalated quickly! Lol. Yeah. Seems to have moved very quickly from reconnecting with an old friend, to my fiancée being stressed and saying stuff that she didn’t really feel (jealous and insecure.) She fantasied about it - out loud - in bed the other day All a bit of a confusing shock to my system tbh." Why were the photos she sent you poor quality? Was it their composition, lighting, poses? You know that ‘Mr HLC’ would be more appropriate than Mr LHC considering your user name? | |||
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" Here’s the thing: I’m feeling a little weird about this. My natural instinct is “Why isn’t Mrs HLC bothered about this at all?” After all, I’m having intimate discussions with someone I’ve slept with, while Mrs HLC isn’t involved. " Either she fully trusts you, or she isn’t bothered if you sleep with other women. Maybe she wants you too, maybe she wants to sleep with other guys privately and so she’s allowing you to get close to and sleep with other women. Why not just ask her and sort it out before talking anymore to the FB ex | |||
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"Why were the photos she sent you poor quality? Was it their composition, lighting, poses? You know that ‘Mr HLC’ would be more appropriate than Mr LHC considering your user name? " The photos were taken using the front facing (selfie) camera on her iPhone 6. Mostly in a dark bedroom. It’s a mixture of composition, lighting and poses. They don’t really do her justice As for Mr LHC lol - it’s has been Mr HLC most of the time. I must have been half asleep | |||
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"Either she fully trusts you, or she isn’t bothered if you sleep with other women. Maybe she wants you too, maybe she wants to sleep with other guys privately and so she’s allowing you to get close to and sleep with other women. Why not just ask her and sort it out before talking anymore to the FB ex " When I say “not involved” I mean that Mrs is not part of the conversation at the time of it happening. She’s aware of the conversations though, and I hand her my phone in the morning while I’m having a shower so she can catch up with it She’s said she’s comfortable with all of the conversations. Well, we’ve already had a few MFM threesomes, and swapped with couples over the years too. So she has never previously had an issue with me being with other women. Our friend isn’t an ex. Yes, we had one night together about 13 years ago, but it was just horny friends helping each other (And they’re both friends too now, through knowing me ) She’s made it clear over the past week that it’s something that really turns her on, and she’s wanted a threesome with me and another woman for longer than I have! She reads the forum (though rarely participates) so she’s up to speed. As soon as Mrs has time when she’s not working, I am going to sit down and talk to her about this. She’s just working so much we don’t have any time together really. We do sext regularly about it while she’s at work though... We’ll see I guess | |||
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"Actually I have to say that from what you have said you are doing your very best to act as a supportive husband in an open and honest relationship. Yes I get that you are hopeful that an mff does come from it, but as this is most str8 and bi males top fantasy I don’t blame you for the wishful thinking. You seem to be doing your utmost not to pressure either of the ladies, which will probably make it way more likely to happen plus be something no one regrets. Well done!" Well, I’m trying my best It’s been a confusing week or so for me. Mrs HLC and I are taking some time to talk tomorrow about the past week. This is more important since she’s been sexting me about a threesome with said friend, and that said friend has - quite out of nowhere - mentioned being worried she’d not be as good at a blowjob as Mrs HLC. | |||
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