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"I know I'm bound to get slated for this but for me it's a huge turn on " No slating here xx | |||
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"I am married and I am upfront about it. I prefer married woman, I have met a few on here and from my experience we find it a huge turn on" Up front with your wife too!? | |||
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"It's whatever works for both parties involved. I'm always up front about my situation & expect the same, the we make adult choices - after all it's about sex and fantasies - isn't it?" No it's about making friends too | |||
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"It never ceases to amaze me how morally uptight and judgemental some people get on here and other sites like it about the subject of infidelity, especially considering the supposed alternative, open minded nature of the behaviour this site promotes. I'm sure there would be many with more traditional values who would view all fab members as deviant scum who should be cast into the flames of hell for our sexually liberal views, but that would be just intolerant of those who don't share the same moral compass. So for you who huff at others choices about their marital situation, remember you too are cheating scum to somebody...just saying " You're bound to have judgemental people when starting a thread about cheating, it's a public forum, so they can say whatever they want. Do people think people will agree or say it's ok? | |||
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"It never ceases to amaze me how morally uptight and judgemental some people get on here and other sites like it about the subject of infidelity, especially considering the supposed alternative, open minded nature of the behaviour this site promotes. I'm sure there would be many with more traditional values who would view all fab members as deviant scum who should be cast into the flames of hell for our sexually liberal views, but that would be just intolerant of those who don't share the same moral compass. So for you who huff at others choices about their marital situation, remember you too are cheating scum to somebody...just saying " It's specifically a swinging site, not a cheating one. The clue is in the name of the site. For one that promotes cheating, go to fab cheaters, if it exists. Swinging is about a shared experience in whatever form that takes. Cheating is just vile. Sorry if that is awkward. If you think it isn't so, why is it kept a secret from the partner that's being cheated upon? | |||
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"It never ceases to amaze me how morally uptight and judgemental some people get on here and other sites like it about the subject of infidelity, especially considering the supposed alternative, open minded nature of the behaviour this site promotes. I'm sure there would be many with more I traditional values who would view all fab members as deviant scum who should be cast into the flames of hell for our sexually liberal views, but that would be just intolerant of those who don't share the same moral compass. So for you who huff at others choices about their marital situation, remember you too are cheating scum to somebody...just saying It's specifically a swinging site, not a cheating one. The clue is in the name of the site. For one that promotes cheating, go to fab cheaters, if it exists. Swinging is about a shared experience in whatever form that takes. Cheating is just vile. Sorry if that is awkward. If you think it isn't so, why is it kept a secret from the partner that's being cheated upon?" | |||
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"It never ceases to amaze me how morally uptight and judgemental some people get on here and other sites like it about the subject of infidelity, especially considering the supposed alternative, open minded nature of the behaviour this site promotes. I'm sure there would be many with more traditional values who would view all fab members as deviant scum who should be cast into the flames of hell for our sexually liberal views, but that would be just intolerant of those who don't share the same moral compass. So for you who huff at others choices about their marital situation, remember you too are cheating scum to somebody...just saying It's specifically a swinging site, not a cheating one. The clue is in the name of the site. For one that promotes cheating, go to fab cheaters, if it exists. Swinging is about a shared experience in whatever form that takes. Cheating is just vile. Sorry if that is awkward. If you think it isn't so, why is it kept a secret from the partner that's being cheated upon?" I think you're missing my point,that we shouldn't be so judgemental of others because life is rarely so black and white and you can't say for certain what a persons circumstances are until you are in their shoes. So for people who, by the very nature of the site we are on, to be so narrow minded seems a bit much. If people makes choices that you don't agree with, walk on by, don't start preaching at them. It's their conscience that it weighs upon. I might not agree with it myself in principal, but I'm not going to get all holier than thou about it. Maybe I should have commented on a less emotive subject like the passing of Bob Crow! | |||
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"It never ceases to amaze me how morally uptight and judgemental some people get on here and other sites like it about the subject of infidelity, especially considering the supposed alternative, open minded nature of the behaviour this site promotes. I'm sure there would be many with more traditional values who would view all fab members as deviant scum who should be cast into the flames of hell for our sexually liberal views, but that would be just intolerant of those who don't share the same moral compass. So for you who huff at others choices about their marital situation, remember you too are cheating scum to somebody...just saying It's specifically a swinging site, not a cheating one. The clue is in the name of the site. For one that promotes cheating, go to fab cheaters, if it exists. Swinging is about a shared experience in whatever form that takes. Cheating is just vile. Sorry if that is awkward. If you think it isn't so, why is it kept a secret from the partner that's being cheated upon? I think you're missing my point,that we shouldn't be so judgemental of others because life is rarely so black and white and you can't say for certain what a persons circumstances are until you are in their shoes. So for people who, by the very nature of the site we are on, to be so narrow minded seems a bit much. If people makes choices that you don't agree with, walk on by, don't start preaching at them. It's their conscience that it weighs upon. I might not agree with it myself in principal, but I'm not going to get all holier than thou about it. Maybe I should have commented on a less emotive subject like the passing of Bob Crow!" Sorry but it's not missing the point to clarify what cheating is vs swinging. It's certainly isn't holier than thou to be opposed to something that causes so much hurt to someone potentially. To create a mist around someone's reasons for doing something like this is to more or less say that anyone can do anything without recourse. That is simply not how life is. Or am I now able to go and commit a violent crime, but as long as I can put forward some kind of skewed logic for why i did it, then it's ok because we should be more accepting of violent crime? Of course not. You cannot get away from the fact that cheating is not swinging. That's really all I said. And that it's vile. | |||
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"It never ceases to amaze me how morally uptight and judgemental some people get on here and other sites like it about the subject of infidelity, especially considering the supposed alternative, open minded nature of the behaviour this site promotes. I'm sure there would be many with more traditional values who would view all fab members as deviant scum who should be cast into the flames of hell for our sexually liberal views, but that would be just intolerant of those who don't share the same moral compass. So for you who huff at others choices about their marital situation, remember you too are cheating scum to somebody...just saying It's specifically a swinging site, not a cheating one. The clue is in the name of the site. For one that promotes cheating, go to fab cheaters, if it exists. Swinging is about a shared experience in whatever form that takes. Cheating is just vile. Sorry if that is awkward. If you think it isn't so, why is it kept a secret from the partner that's being cheated upon? I think you're missing my point,that we shouldn't be so judgemental of others because life is rarely so black and white and you can't say for certain what a persons circumstances are until you are in their shoes. So for people who, by the very nature of the site we are on, to be so narrow minded seems a bit much. If people makes choices that you don't agree with, walk on by, don't start preaching at them. It's their conscience that it weighs upon. I might not agree with it myself in principal, but I'm not going to get all holier than thou about it. Maybe I should have commented on a less emotive subject like the passing of Bob Crow!" Sorry but it's not missing the point to clarify what cheating is vs swinging. It's certainly isn't holier than thou to be opposed to something that causes so much hurt to someone potentially. To create a mist around someone's reasons for doing something like this is to more or less say that anyone can do anything without recourse. That is simply not how life is. Or am I now able to go and commit a violent crime, but as long as I can put forward some kind of skewed logic for why i did it, then it's ok because we should be more accepting of violent crime? Of course not. You cannot get away from the fact that cheating is not swinging. That's really all I said. And that it's vile. | |||
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"It never ceases to amaze me how morally uptight and judgemental some people get on here and other sites like it about the subject of infidelity, especially considering the supposed alternative, open minded nature of the behaviour this site promotes. I'm sure there would be many with more traditional values who would view all fab members as deviant scum who should be cast into the flames of hell for our sexually liberal views, but that would be just intolerant of those who don't share the same moral compass. So for you who huff at others choices about their marital situation, remember you too are cheating scum to somebody...just saying It's specifically a swinging site, not a cheating one. The clue is in the name of the site. For one that promotes cheating, go to fab cheaters, if it exists. Swinging is about a shared experience in whatever form that takes. Cheating is just vile. Sorry if that is awkward. If you think it isn't so, why is it kept a secret from the partner that's being cheated upon? I think you're missing my point,that we shouldn't be so judgemental of others because life is rarely so black and white and you can't say for certain what a persons circumstances are until you are in their shoes. So for people who, by the very nature of the site we are on, to be so narrow minded seems a bit much. If people makes choices that you don't agree with, walk on by, don't start preaching at them. It's their conscience that it weighs upon. I might not agree with it myself in principal, but I'm not going to get all holier than thou about it. Maybe I should have commented on a less emotive subject like the passing of Bob Crow! Sorry but it's not missing the point to clarify what cheating is vs swinging. It's certainly isn't holier than thou to be opposed to something that causes so much hurt to someone potentially. To create a mist around someone's reasons for doing something like this is to more or less say that anyone can do anything without recourse. That is simply not how life is. Or am I now able to go and commit a violent crime, but as long as I can put forward some kind of skewed logic for why i did it, then it's ok because we should be more accepting of violent crime? Of course not. You cannot get away from the fact that cheating is not swinging. That's really all I said. And that it's vile. " Are we now heading into Oscar Pistorius territory?! | |||
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"It never ceases to amaze me how morally uptight and judgemental some people get on here and other sites like it about the subject of infidelity, especially considering the supposed alternative, open minded nature of the behaviour this site promotes. I'm sure there would be many with more traditional values who would view all fab members as deviant scum who should be cast into the flames of hell for our sexually liberal views, but that would be just intolerant of those who don't share the same moral compass. So for you who huff at others choices about their marital situation, remember you too are cheating scum to somebody...just saying It's specifically a swinging site, not a cheating one. The clue is in the name of the site. For one that promotes cheating, go to fab cheaters, if it exists. Swinging is about a shared experience in whatever form that takes. Cheating is just vile. Sorry if that is awkward. If you think it isn't so, why is it kept a secret from the partner that's being cheated upon? I think you're missing my point,that we shouldn't be so judgemental of others because life is rarely so black and white and you can't say for certain what a persons circumstances are until you are in their shoes. So for people who, by the very nature of the site we are on, to be so narrow minded seems a bit much. If people makes choices that you don't agree with, walk on by, don't start preaching at them. It's their conscience that it weighs upon. I might not agree with it myself in principal, but I'm not going to get all holier than thou about it. Maybe I should have commented on a less emotive subject like the passing of Bob Crow! Sorry but it's not missing the point to clarify what cheating is vs swinging. It's certainly isn't holier than thou to be opposed to something that causes so much hurt to someone potentially. To create a mist around someone's reasons for doing something like this is to more or less say that anyone can do anything without recourse. That is simply not how life is. Or am I now able to go and commit a violent crime, but as long as I can put forward some kind of skewed logic for why i did it, then it's ok because we should be more accepting of violent crime? Of course not. You cannot get away from the fact that cheating is not swinging. That's really all I said. And that it's vile. Are we now heading into Oscar Pistorius territory?! " Pistorius? Preposterous. | |||
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"It never ceases to amaze me how morally uptight and judgemental some people get on here and other sites like it about the subject of infidelity, especially considering the supposed alternative, open minded nature of the behaviour this site promotes. I'm sure there would be many with more traditional values who would view all fab members as deviant scum who should be cast into the flames of hell for our sexually liberal views, but that would be just intolerant of those who don't share the same moral compass. So for you who huff at others choices about their marital situation, remember you too are cheating scum to somebody...just saying It's specifically a swinging site, not a cheating one. The clue is in the name of the site. For one that promotes cheating, go to fab cheaters, if it exists. Swinging is about a shared experience in whatever form that takes. Cheating is just vile. Sorry if that is awkward. If you think it isn't so, why is it kept a secret from the partner that's being cheated upon? I think you're missing my point,that we shouldn't be so judgemental of others because life is rarely so black and white and you can't say for certain what a persons circumstances are until you are in their shoes. So for people who, by the very nature of the site we are on, to be so narrow minded seems a bit much. If people makes choices that you don't agree with, walk on by, don't start preaching at them. It's their conscience that it weighs upon. I might not agree with it myself in principal, but I'm not going to get all holier than thou about it. Maybe I should have commented on a less emotive subject like the passing of Bob Crow! Sorry but it's not missing the point to clarify what cheating is vs swinging. It's certainly isn't holier than thou to be opposed to something that causes so much hurt to someone potentially. To create a mist around someone's reasons for doing something like this is to more or less say that anyone can do anything without recourse. That is simply not how life is. Or am I now able to go and commit a violent crime, but as long as I can put forward some kind of skewed logic for why i did it, then it's ok because we should be more accepting of violent crime? Of course not. You cannot get away from the fact that cheating is not swinging. That's really all I said. And that it's vile. Are we now heading into Oscar Pistorius territory?! Pistorius? Preposterous. " Possibly | |||
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"It's whatever works for both parties involved. I'm always up front about my situation & expect the same, the we make adult choices - after all it's about sex and fantasies - isn't it? No it's about making friends too" If you make or remain friends & keep in touch I see that as a bonus, not a prerequisite. | |||
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"It's whatever works for both parties involved. I'm always up front about my situation & expect the same, the we make adult choices - after all it's about sex and fantasies - isn't it? No it's about making friends too If you make or remain friends & keep in touch I see that as a bonus, not a prerequisite. " No idea what that last word means but I've kept my friends that I've met off here | |||
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"It never ceases to amaze me how morally uptight and judgemental some people get on here and other sites like it about the subject of infidelity, especially considering the supposed alternative, open minded nature of the behaviour this site promotes. I'm sure there would be many with more traditional values who would view all fab members as deviant scum who should be cast into the flames of hell for our sexually liberal views, but that would be just intolerant of those who don't share the same moral compass. So for you who huff at others choices about their marital situation, remember you too are cheating scum to somebody...just saying It's specifically a swinging site, not a cheating one. The clue is in the name of the site. For one that promotes cheating, go to fab cheaters, if it exists. Swinging is about a shared experience in whatever form that takes. Cheating is just vile. Sorry if that is awkward. If you think it isn't so, why is it kept a secret from the partner that's being cheated upon? I think you're missing my point,that we shouldn't be so judgemental of others because life is rarely so black and white and you can't say for certain what a persons circumstances are until you are in their shoes. So for people who, by the very nature of the site we are on, to be so narrow minded seems a bit much. If people makes choices that you don't agree with, walk on by, don't start preaching at them. It's their conscience that it weighs upon. I might not agree with it myself in principal, but I'm not going to get all holier than thou about it. Maybe I should have commented on a less emotive subject like the passing of Bob Crow! Sorry but it's not missing the point to clarify what cheating is vs swinging. It's certainly isn't holier than thou to be opposed to something that causes so much hurt to someone potentially. To create a mist around someone's reasons for doing something like this is to more or less say that anyone can do anything without recourse. That is simply not how life is. Or am I now able to go and commit a violent crime, but as long as I can put forward some kind of skewed logic for why i did it, then it's ok because we should be more accepting of violent crime? Of course not. You cannot get away from the fact that cheating is not swinging. That's really all I said. And that it's vile. Are we now heading into Oscar Pistorius territory?! Pistorius? Preposterous. " How many para-Olympians does it take to change a light bulb? I have no idea, but I know one who'd take a shot at it for you. | |||
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"It never ceases to amaze me how morally uptight and judgemental some people get on here and other sites like it about the subject of infidelity, especially considering the supposed alternative, open minded nature of the behaviour this site promotes. I'm sure there would be many with more traditional values who would view all fab members as deviant scum who should be cast into the flames of hell for our sexually liberal views, but that would be just intolerant of those who don't share the same moral compass. So for you who huff at others choices about their marital situation, remember you too are cheating scum to somebody...just saying " Bravissimo | |||
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"We're all adults each to there own x" That sums up everything..... | |||
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"This crops up very frequently - I'm married and my mrs doesn't know I come on here - we have a great life apart from when it comes to sex as we are poles apart so I come on here and chat mainly bit of cam stuff and very occasionally I try and take it further - rarely do I get anywhere but sometimes do. Yes it's cheating but it's less likely to end up breaking us up meeting someone from here than if I strayed in "normal life'" as both partners know it's about sex and nothing else. No commitment or unequal expectations yes it's cheating but - and I know I'm putting myself up to be shot at - but it's the lesser of two evils If my wife and I had equal sex drives then I wouldn't be here as we'd be in bed all the time as it is I look for release when I feel horny. Well that's my twopennothworth " So basically you're a coward and selfish, didn't speak to your wife about coming on here and thinking with your dick instead of your head | |||
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"This crops up very frequently - I'm married and my mrs doesn't know I come on here - we have a great life apart from when it comes to sex as we are poles apart so I come on here and chat mainly bit of cam stuff and very occasionally I try and take it further - rarely do I get anywhere but sometimes do. Yes it's cheating but it's less likely to end up breaking us up meeting someone from here than if I strayed in "normal life'" as both partners know it's about sex and nothing else. No commitment or unequal expectations yes it's cheating but - and I know I'm putting myself up to be shot at - but it's the lesser of two evils If my wife and I had equal sex drives then I wouldn't be here as we'd be in bed all the time as it is I look for release when I feel horny. Well that's my twopennothworth So basically you're a coward and selfish, didn't speak to your wife about coming on here and thinking with your dick instead of your head" I feel the question has to be asked. If your wife has been having an affair for years, and that is why she has a lower sex drive than you because she is getting it elsware, i presume you would be quite happy with that and not be annoyed, as she is only doing what it is ok for you to do.? | |||
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"Sex is sex come on we all know that, particularly I do prefer married men they are more respectful than single guys, and I have nothing to do with others people private life's . We all need sex coming for an South America country sex for us is like food have to be daily hahaha" Respectful to their wives?!? | |||
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"We're all adults each to there own x" Are there ANY limitations to this kind of panacea? Can I go ahead and just do what I like to anyone, cause no end of hurt, all because we are 'all adults here'? Of course not. I know it's boring, I know I keep saying it, but it's the uncomfortable truth: cheating ain't swinging. Sorry. | |||
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"My partner decided 10yrs ago that sex was for the young and lost interest. We talked, she told me to do what I need to but asked me not to rub her face in it. I would love her to join in with me, but its not happening. So i could have an affair, not a good idea, or an escort, very unfriendly, or find friends who like to get naked ... Swingers. For me meeting up with people i have made friends with and being intimate with them is a real pleasure and an afternoon at Kestrel's on a sunny afternoon with people i know the most relaxing possible. Is it cheating, i suppose so, but all alternatives would be highly destructive and hurt so much more. " I don't know if you could class it as cheating or not if she knows about you being on here | |||
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"My partner decided 10yrs ago that sex was for the young and lost interest. We talked, she told me to do what I need to but asked me not to rub her face in it. I would love her to join in with me, but its not happening. So i could have an affair, not a good idea, or an escort, very unfriendly, or find friends who like to get naked ... Swingers. For me meeting up with people i have made friends with and being intimate with them is a real pleasure and an afternoon at Kestrel's on a sunny afternoon with people i know the most relaxing possible. Is it cheating, i suppose so, but all alternatives would be highly destructive and hurt so much more. " It isn't if you've been up front and honest, like it sounds as if you have. | |||
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"I'm not cheating because I'm not with anybody, couples on here aren't cheating because they're doing it together" Absolutely right | |||
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"This crops up very frequently - I'm married and my mrs doesn't know I come on here - we have a great life apart from when it comes to sex as we are poles apart so I come on here and chat mainly bit of cam stuff and very occasionally I try and take it further - rarely do I get anywhere but sometimes do. Yes it's cheating but it's less likely to end up breaking us up meeting someone from here than if I strayed in "normal life'" as both partners know it's about sex and nothing else. No commitment or unequal expectations yes it's cheating but - and I know I'm putting myself up to be shot at - but it's the lesser of two evils If my wife and I had equal sex drives then I wouldn't be here as we'd be in bed all the time as it is I look for release when I feel horny. Well that's my twopennothworth So basically you're a coward and selfish, didn't speak to your wife about coming on here and thinking with your dick instead of your head I feel the question has to be asked. If your wife has been having an affair for years, and that is why she has a lower sex drive than you because she is getting it elsware, i presume you would be quite happy with that and not be annoyed, as she is only doing what it is ok for you to do.? " Interesting points - I guess I would be upset as I would be upset that she had been neglecting me - sex is the one constant thing that causes friction between us - we have talked and talked about it but she always has had a very low sex drive and has said she could take it or leave it. So where does that leave me as I have a high sex drive? Perhaps instead of sitting in moral judgement you could come up with some ideas on how I can get through this - I want nothing more than to be making love to my wife but it doesn't happen enough for me - it's easy to say I'm selfish but as a counter I could say she is selfish as she doesn't put me first - no ones right no ones wrong it's just how things are sometimes I guess | |||
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"This crops up very frequently - I'm married and my mrs doesn't know I come on here - we have a great life apart from when it comes to sex as we are poles apart so I come on here and chat mainly bit of cam stuff and very occasionally I try and take it further - rarely do I get anywhere but sometimes do. Yes it's cheating but it's less likely to end up breaking us up meeting someone from here than if I strayed in "normal life'" as both partners know it's about sex and nothing else. No commitment or unequal expectations yes it's cheating but - and I know I'm putting myself up to be shot at - but it's the lesser of two evils If my wife and I had equal sex drives then I wouldn't be here as we'd be in bed all the time as it is I look for release when I feel horny. Well that's my twopennothworth So basically you're a coward and selfish, didn't speak to your wife about coming on here and thinking with your dick instead of your head I feel the question has to be asked. If your wife has been having an affair for years, and that is why she has a lower sex drive than you because she is getting it elsware, i presume you would be quite happy with that and not be annoyed, as she is only doing what it is ok for you to do.? Interesting points - I guess I would be upset as I would be upset that she had been neglecting me - sex is the one constant thing that causes friction between us - we have talked and talked about it but she always has had a very low sex drive and has said she could take it or leave it. So where does that leave me as I have a high sex drive? Perhaps instead of sitting in moral judgement you could come up with some ideas on how I can get through this - I want nothing more than to be making love to my wife but it doesn't happen enough for me - it's easy to say I'm selfish but as a counter I could say she is selfish as she doesn't put me first - no ones right no ones wrong it's just how things are sometimes I guess " She's not putting you first coz she won't have sex with you??? Yes you are being incredibly selfish. As for the first answer about being hurt if she was on here and feeling neglected, well that's how she would feel if she found you on here. Either tell her you're cheating or leave the site and work on your marriage and make love to your wife when she wants to have sex. Buy a fleshlight or something | |||
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"But that's pretty much what I do anyway as most of my involvement is chatting and camming - so I'm selfish if I accept the fact that she has a low sex drive and try to find ways of not letting it become an issue and barrier between us? It's not black and white that's the problem - sex is pretty much the only thing we argue about so I try not to let it become an issue and go with the flow - as a result I sometimes look for other ways of releasing the pressure usually a cam wank to put it bluntly - some would call that cheating - in my mind I'm just stopping a row with my wife as I feel horny and she doesn't. Yes we have talked about it lots so don't lecture me putting her first - any relationship is a 2 way thing and if all aspects in your relationships run nicely along the middle with neither partner asking more than the other then you are a very lucky person - what I'm saying is don't judge rant over x" You were the one who said she didn't put you first. Yes I will judge because you posted in a public forum, what did you expect? | |||
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"Well I don't like smokers or people with big tattoos should I judge you? " Can do if you want, I'm not really bothered | |||
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"Love meeting married women be it discrete or with her man knowing. I am married, my wife and I are understanding as to the point she won't swing with me but if she hasn't been in the mood for. ...... thenI can do as I wish with aanother. In honesty I don't always wait till its been a while but it's not totally cheating " Maybe you should put it on your profile. Does she know you're on here? | |||
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