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"Eeeh ....... El Sofa is never open at night except one day a week at nude night, in the summer. And small, well, most people say it's much bigger than expected (320 m2) but yeah, what is the small and what is big?" We went on a Saturday night last Feb, we'll be in Benidorm late August next, will you be open wed and sat then? X | |||
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"Were thinking of trying it out one afternoon Not sure if anyone has been on an afternoon?" It's usually single guys in the afternoon looking for pussy but being disappointed. Do if you go and want cock you will be guaranteed attention. I've been there probably 20 times ths year and last and only once was there a lady in with her husband. But I don't stay for hours on end so of course could have missed others. | |||
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"El Sofa is El Sofa and The Swing is The Swing. All info is in our PROFILE. Pls read that." The "The Swing" is in the same premises as "El Sofa" . It's marketed as "the Swing' on Friday and Sat nights. El Sofa is just 12.5 euros admission whereas The Swing is a lot more. It's similar to the GREENHOUSE becoming Cameleons in UK on a Weekend. For swingers visiting Benidorm it's the only swingers venue. So if you want to meet like-minded people that's the place to go. It's couples only on Saturday but mixed on Friday night. | |||
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"El Sofa is El Sofa and The Swing is The Swing. All info is in our PROFILE. Pls read that. The "The Swing" is in the same premises as "El Sofa" . It's marketed as "the Swing' on Friday and Sat nights. El Sofa is just 12.5 euros admission whereas The Swing is a lot more. It's similar to the GREENHOUSE becoming Cameleons in UK on a Weekend. For swingers visiting Benidorm it's the only swingers venue. So if you want to meet like-minded people that's the place to go. It's couples only on Saturday but mixed on Friday night. " Just FYI it's not open now on Fri in June according to the website. | |||
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"What is the best night for couples to meet other couples " It's only open Sat nights in June. | |||
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"At the entrance there is no automatic paying machine like you'll find at many parking garages but a real person. The idea is that if somebody looking for writing paper nicks 20 toilet rolls staff is informed. It could also happen that a customer pukes up. In that case it's also advisable to inform the staff as they are responsible (who else?) so it's them who can clean up. If a person put his hands on the right parts but on the wrong body staff could (or SHOULD?) be informed too but in this case that did NOT happen. Now, we realize that blokes who are not quite sure where to put their hands are extremely rare. As a matter of fact, there is more chance finding a moon rock on your hotel balcony tomorrow than encountering any of these monsters but rest assured, you will only find these guys at El Sofa. Or maybe it's Benidorm, we don't know. Another real life example: last year we discovered a 10 m deep sinkhole in one of the bathrooms but only after closing time! After a police investigation it became clear that all other customers ('all other' because 3 had disappeared) simply used another bathroom but indeed complained about the sinkhole 2 days later on a website called PlacesNotToVisit.co.uk The management of El Sofa was consequently convicted to 2 years of hard labour at a place which you'll find listed at that website. A Siberia labour camp is like Ibiza, believe us! The sinkhole wasn't their fault (they only rent the premises) but the fact that their customers hadn't informed management at the time clearly was. So, the message is: if you find a dead body in the sling, inhale the breath of somebody who last brushed his teeth in 2011 or find some hands on your bum please, we beg you, don't run out but inform the staff present! But we understand, it's much more fun not to and post! " What a strange response? Which didnt really make much sense, you know full well what happened, after my wife was grabbed in a dark corridor ,yes we left so she felt safe and then I came back to inform you. Do you not think that was an acceptable thing to do given at that point she was the only female in the place. When I spoke with you at no point did you give me the confidence that you were going to handle the situation and keep us safe, so YES of course we promptly left! We are not going to go back and forth with you, and will not respond any further, but we felt making sure people know of our experience is why fab is such a good place for UK couples looking for advice and to explore swinging. | |||
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"Men not listening to the word NO we left " And to think we were made to feel like it was our fault by the owner. Sorry you also had such a negative experience too. Hopefully others take note | |||
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"We were planning on going to The Swing when we’re over in August but not sure now after reading the above. Female safety (in fact everyone’s) should be THE most important thing . Normally guys that touch without asking, are pushy or don’t take no for an answer and ejected immediately from any club in the UK we’ve been to. Fortunately we haven’t had to deal with any guys like that yet but we like to go to places that have a zero tolerance to that kind of behaviour. " I've got to jump in a stand up for the owners here. We've been to The Swing loads of times, and Marc runs a good club. The club can't be responsible for everyone's behaviour, it's just not possible. I'm 100% certain if you went and told them someone wouldn't take no for an answer, they would be asked to leave and banned. My wife got touched on her clothed ass without permission on our first visit, I just told the guy to fuck of, and that was it dealt with. It's fair enough to post your opinion, but maybe that was one unfortunate night. We've had some fantastic nights there and met some great people. We'll probably be there again this weekend! | |||
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"We were planning on going to The Swing when we’re over in August but not sure now after reading the above. Female safety (in fact everyone’s) should be THE most important thing . Normally guys that touch without asking, are pushy or don’t take no for an answer and ejected immediately from any club in the UK we’ve been to. Fortunately we haven’t had to deal with any guys like that yet but we like to go to places that have a zero tolerance to that kind of behaviour. I've got to jump in a stand up for the owners here. We've been to The Swing loads of times, and Marc runs a good club. The club can't be responsible for everyone's behaviour, it's just not possible. I'm 100% certain if you went and told them someone wouldn't take no for an answer, they would be asked to leave and banned. My wife got touched on her clothed ass without permission on our first visit, I just told the guy to fuck of, and that was it dealt with. It's fair enough to post your opinion, but maybe that was one unfortunate night. We've had some fantastic nights there and met some great people. We'll probably be there again this weekend! " We'll second that. 
Swinger club etiquette varies from country to country (over 50 different clubs in 5 countries here)
With the odd exception UK and German single guys tend to behave much better than their more Latin counterparts.
Over the years (over 500 club visits in 14 years) we've had a few guys push the boundary's but never felt we had to run to management. A stern NO or occasionally a bit stronger was usually enough.
I can only remember one occasion when a guy got chucked out of a place because of us.
It was Le Tantra in Cap d'Agde and Mrs had just finished a small 4 guy gang bang and wanted a break. As she was climbing off the bed a guy tried to push her back and stick his cock into her. I told him NO! He didn't listen. I said loudly FUCK OFF! He got aggressive and within a few seconds he was bounced out of the door. No need to report anything.
I do feel though that some people just shouldn't go to swinger clubs or at least stay around the bar area.
If you are over sensitive about a slight grope to an arse or brush against a tit then swinger club dark rooms and dark corridors are really not for you.
For the record we think El Sofa/The Swing is a very well run club.
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"We were planning on going to The Swing when we’re over in August but not sure now after reading the above. Female safety (in fact everyone’s) should be THE most important thing . Normally guys that touch without asking, are pushy or don’t take no for an answer and ejected immediately from any club in the UK we’ve been to. Fortunately we haven’t had to deal with any guys like that yet but we like to go to places that have a zero tolerance to that kind of behaviour. I've got to jump in a stand up for the owners here. We've been to The Swing loads of times, and Marc runs a good club. The club can't be responsible for everyone's behaviour, it's just not possible. I'm 100% certain if you went and told them someone wouldn't take no for an answer, they would be asked to leave and banned. My wife got touched on her clothed ass without permission on our first visit, I just told the guy to fuck of, and that was it dealt with. It's fair enough to post your opinion, but maybe that was one unfortunate night. We've had some fantastic nights there and met some great people. We'll probably be there again this weekend! We'll second that.
Swinger club etiquette varies from country to country (over 50 different clubs in 5 countries here)
With the odd exception UK and German single guys tend to behave much better than their more Latin counterparts.
Over the years (over 500 club visits in 14 years) we've had a few guys push the boundary's but never felt we had to run to management. A stern NO or occasionally a bit stronger was usually enough.
I can only remember one occasion when a guy got chucked out of a place because of us.
It was Le Tantra in Cap d'Agde and Mrs had just finished a small 4 guy gang bang and wanted a break. As she was climbing off the bed a guy tried to push her back and stick his cock into her. I told him NO! He didn't listen. I said loudly FUCK OFF! He got aggressive and within a few seconds he was bounced out of the door. No need to report anything.
I do feel though that some people just shouldn't go to swinger clubs or at least stay around the bar area.
If you are over sensitive about a slight grope to an arse or brush against a tit then swinger club dark rooms and dark corridors are really not for you.
For the record we think El Sofa/The Swing is a very well run club.
"Hang one here. We’re by no means shrinking violets and if we want to mingle or even watch the going’s on that’s up to us. Each of us are entitled to our opinions but mines is that’s it’s not for you or anyone else to say who sits in the bar area and who goes into the play areas. I (Mr) am certainly not averse to pulling up anyone that mistreats my wife and am more than capable of getting physical if that’s where things escalate to. I would add that this not something I’d like to have to do but woukd if absolutely necessary. My comments were in response to the couples who mention the club not reacting to their experience of guys that didn’t follow normal etiquette if you care to read it again. You should perhaps also consider that some people are not comfortable with conflict and need to rely on the club management dealing with unruly predator types. | |||
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"We were planning on going to The Swing when we’re over in August but not sure now after reading the above. Female safety (in fact everyone’s) should be THE most important thing . Normally guys that touch without asking, are pushy or don’t take no for an answer and ejected immediately from any club in the UK we’ve been to. Fortunately we haven’t had to deal with any guys like that yet but we like to go to places that have a zero tolerance to that kind of behaviour. I've got to jump in a stand up for the owners here. We've been to The Swing loads of times, and Marc runs a good club. The club can't be responsible for everyone's behaviour, it's just not possible. I'm 100% certain if you went and told them someone wouldn't take no for an answer, they would be asked to leave and banned. My wife got touched on her clothed ass without permission on our first visit, I just told the guy to fuck of, and that was it dealt with. It's fair enough to post your opinion, but maybe that was one unfortunate night. We've had some fantastic nights there and met some great people. We'll probably be there again this weekend! We'll second that.
Swinger club etiquette varies from country to country (over 50 different clubs in 5 countries here)
With the odd exception UK and German single guys tend to behave much better than their more Latin counterparts.
Over the years (over 500 club visits in 14 years) we've had a few guys push the boundary's but never felt we had to run to management. A stern NO or occasionally a bit stronger was usually enough.
I can only remember one occasion when a guy got chucked out of a place because of us.
It was Le Tantra in Cap d'Agde and Mrs had just finished a small 4 guy gang bang and wanted a break. As she was climbing off the bed a guy tried to push her back and stick his cock into her. I told him NO! He didn't listen. I said loudly FUCK OFF! He got aggressive and within a few seconds he was bounced out of the door. No need to report anything.
I do feel though that some people just shouldn't go to swinger clubs or at least stay around the bar area.
If you are over sensitive about a slight grope to an arse or brush against a tit then swinger club dark rooms and dark corridors are really not for you.
For the record we think El Sofa/The Swing is a very well run club.
Hang one here. We’re by no means shrinking violets and if we want to mingle or even watch the going’s on that’s up to us. Each of us are entitled to our opinions but mines is that’s it’s not for you or anyone else to say who sits in the bar area and who goes into the play areas. I (Mr) am certainly not averse to pulling up anyone that mistreats my wife and am more than capable of getting physical if that’s where things escalate to. I would add that this not something I’d like to have to do but woukd if absolutely necessary. My comments were in response to the couples who mention the club not reacting to their experience of guys that didn’t follow normal etiquette if you care to read it again.
You should perhaps also consider that some people are not comfortable with conflict and need to rely on the club management dealing with unruly predator types. "It's a while since we were last in a UK club. Maybe "unruly predator types" are more common there now. In European clubs (with the exception of some of the north Africans in Cap d'Agde) they are few and far between. If someone is getting unruly and predatory then I am fully with you. There is no room for them in the lifestyle. However, there are certain places in swinger clubs (dark rooms for example) where over sensitive people just should not go. Dark room = groping room. Like it or not that is what they are. Maybe it is different in the UK. But on the continent that is pretty much the norm. Let's face it, no-one goes into a dark room to have a good look. 
By all means you should be able to watch the action in an open play room but don't be surprised if one or more of the guys wants to try his luck. If you are not interested then say no and by far the vast majority will accept that. But for many guys that initial light touch is the litmus test so don't blame him for it. At that point he has no idea whether he is going to be brushed away or dragged onto the bed.
"Oh excuse me, would you mind awfully if I touch your Mrs on the arse then play with her tits" just won't happen on the continent. The vast majority wouldn't even know how to say it.
Bottom line is that if you don't want attention from single guys then stick to couples only clubs/nights. | |||
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"We were planning on going to The Swing when we’re over in August but not sure now after reading the above. Female safety (in fact everyone’s) should be THE most important thing . Normally guys that touch without asking, are pushy or don’t take no for an answer and ejected immediately from any club in the UK we’ve been to. Fortunately we haven’t had to deal with any guys like that yet but we like to go to places that have a zero tolerance to that kind of behaviour. I've got to jump in a stand up for the owners here. We've been to The Swing loads of times, and Marc runs a good club. The club can't be responsible for everyone's behaviour, it's just not possible. I'm 100% certain if you went and told them someone wouldn't take no for an answer, they would be asked to leave and banned. My wife got touched on her clothed ass without permission on our first visit, I just told the guy to fuck of, and that was it dealt with. It's fair enough to post your opinion, but maybe that was one unfortunate night. We've had some fantastic nights there and met some great people. We'll probably be there again this weekend! We'll second that.
Swinger club etiquette varies from country to country (over 50 different clubs in 5 countries here)
With the odd exception UK and German single guys tend to behave much better than their more Latin counterparts.
Over the years (over 500 club visits in 14 years) we've had a few guys push the boundary's but never felt we had to run to management. A stern NO or occasionally a bit stronger was usually enough.
I can only remember one occasion when a guy got chucked out of a place because of us.
It was Le Tantra in Cap d'Agde and Mrs had just finished a small 4 guy gang bang and wanted a break. As she was climbing off the bed a guy tried to push her back and stick his cock into her. I told him NO! He didn't listen. I said loudly FUCK OFF! He got aggressive and within a few seconds he was bounced out of the door. No need to report anything.
I do feel though that some people just shouldn't go to swinger clubs or at least stay around the bar area.
If you are over sensitive about a slight grope to an arse or brush against a tit then swinger club dark rooms and dark corridors are really not for you.
For the record we think El Sofa/The Swing is a very well run club.
Hang one here. We’re by no means shrinking violets and if we want to mingle or even watch the going’s on that’s up to us. Each of us are entitled to our opinions but mines is that’s it’s not for you or anyone else to say who sits in the bar area and who goes into the play areas. I (Mr) am certainly not averse to pulling up anyone that mistreats my wife and am more than capable of getting physical if that’s where things escalate to. I would add that this not something I’d like to have to do but woukd if absolutely necessary. My comments were in response to the couples who mention the club not reacting to their experience of guys that didn’t follow normal etiquette if you care to read it again.
You should perhaps also consider that some people are not comfortable with conflict and need to rely on the club management dealing with unruly predator types.
It's a while since we were last in a UK club. Maybe "unruly predator types" are more common there now.
In European clubs (with the exception of some of the north Africans in Cap d'Agde) they are few and far between.
If someone is getting unruly and predatory then I am fully with you. There is no room for them in the lifestyle.
However, there are certain places in swinger clubs (dark rooms for example) where over sensitive people just should not go. Dark room = groping room. Like it or not that is what they are. Maybe it is different in the UK. But on the continent that is pretty much the norm.
Let's face it, no-one goes into a dark room to have a good look.
By all means you should be able to watch the action in an open play room but don't be surprised if one or more of the guys wants to try his luck. If you are not interested then say no and by far the vast majority will accept that. But for many guys that initial light touch is the litmus test so don't blame him for it. At that point he has no idea whether he is going to be brushed away or dragged onto the bed.
"Oh excuse me, would you mind awfully if I touch your Mrs on the arse then play with her tits" just won't happen on the continent. The vast majority wouldn't even know how to say it.
Bottom line is that if you don't want attention from single guys then stick to couples only clubs/nights."To be fair to the original comment, this didn't happen in a dedicated darkroom but in a dark corridor, of which there are a few in The Swing. There is one with windows into a playroom where people, especially newbies will stand and watch, that's where my wife was touched. I do agree that if you're a bit sensitive, swinger clubs may not be your ideal place. | |||
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"We were planning on going to The Swing when we’re over in August but not sure now after reading the above. Female safety (in fact everyone’s) should be THE most important thing . Normally guys that touch without asking, are pushy or don’t take no for an answer and ejected immediately from any club in the UK we’ve been to. Fortunately we haven’t had to deal with any guys like that yet but we like to go to places that have a zero tolerance to that kind of behaviour. I've got to jump in a stand up for the owners here. We've been to The Swing loads of times, and Marc runs a good club. The club can't be responsible for everyone's behaviour, it's just not possible. I'm 100% certain if you went and told them someone wouldn't take no for an answer, they would be asked to leave and banned. My wife got touched on her clothed ass without permission on our first visit, I just told the guy to fuck of, and that was it dealt with. It's fair enough to post your opinion, but maybe that was one unfortunate night. We've had some fantastic nights there and met some great people. We'll probably be there again this weekend! We'll second that.
Swinger club etiquette varies from country to country (over 50 different clubs in 5 countries here)
With the odd exception UK and German single guys tend to behave much better than their more Latin counterparts.
Over the years (over 500 club visits in 14 years) we've had a few guys push the boundary's but never felt we had to run to management. A stern NO or occasionally a bit stronger was usually enough.
I can only remember one occasion when a guy got chucked out of a place because of us.
It was Le Tantra in Cap d'Agde and Mrs had just finished a small 4 guy gang bang and wanted a break. As she was climbing off the bed a guy tried to push her back and stick his cock into her. I told him NO! He didn't listen. I said loudly FUCK OFF! He got aggressive and within a few seconds he was bounced out of the door. No need to report anything.
I do feel though that some people just shouldn't go to swinger clubs or at least stay around the bar area.
If you are over sensitive about a slight grope to an arse or brush against a tit then swinger club dark rooms and dark corridors are really not for you.
For the record we think El Sofa/The Swing is a very well run club.
Hang one here. We’re by no means shrinking violets and if we want to mingle or even watch the going’s on that’s up to us. Each of us are entitled to our opinions but mines is that’s it’s not for you or anyone else to say who sits in the bar area and who goes into the play areas. I (Mr) am certainly not averse to pulling up anyone that mistreats my wife and am more than capable of getting physical if that’s where things escalate to. I would add that this not something I’d like to have to do but woukd if absolutely necessary. My comments were in response to the couples who mention the club not reacting to their experience of guys that didn’t follow normal etiquette if you care to read it again.
You should perhaps also consider that some people are not comfortable with conflict and need to rely on the club management dealing with unruly predator types.
It's a while since we were last in a UK club. Maybe "unruly predator types" are more common there now.
In European clubs (with the exception of some of the north Africans in Cap d'Agde) they are few and far between.
If someone is getting unruly and predatory then I am fully with you. There is no room for them in the lifestyle.
However, there are certain places in swinger clubs (dark rooms for example) where over sensitive people just should not go. Dark room = groping room. Like it or not that is what they are. Maybe it is different in the UK. But on the continent that is pretty much the norm.
Let's face it, no-one goes into a dark room to have a good look.
By all means you should be able to watch the action in an open play room but don't be surprised if one or more of the guys wants to try his luck. If you are not interested then say no and by far the vast majority will accept that. But for many guys that initial light touch is the litmus test so don't blame him for it. At that point he has no idea whether he is going to be brushed away or dragged onto the bed.
"Oh excuse me, would you mind awfully if I touch your Mrs on the arse then play with her tits" just won't happen on the continent. The vast majority wouldn't even know how to say it.
Bottom line is that if you don't want attention from single guys then stick to couples only clubs/nights.
To be fair to the original comment, this didn't happen in a dedicated darkroom but in a dark corridor, of which there are a few in The Swing.
There is one with windows into a playroom where people, especially newbies will stand and watch, that's where my wife was touched.
I do agree that if you're a bit sensitive, swinger clubs may not be your ideal place. "This is the exact area in which my wife was grouped. It wasn't a dark room!. Now this will be my last comment on the situation. We have been to places in the UK with darks rooms. We did our research before attending el sofa. And it all looked good hence why we took a 3 hour trip from vera playa to Benidorm. We put a post on their site as per their request stating our requirements and one point being be respectful and not touch unless we say its ok! We arrived the guy was friendly who was at reception. At that point another couple left as we paid and when we entered we got shown around by the guy. We realised at that point we were the only couple so proceeded to get our bearing and find an area to get comfortable. Something we have been able to do at the UK clubs we have visited. At that point we were unable to do that so to having multiple guys following is around where ever we went. We then decided to move to the large room with the corridor and the windows locked the door behind us so we could get ready and play soon as the door was closed all of the holes were being used so there really wasn't anytime for us too get comfortable. Hey maybe we're too new for this type of place. We had a discussion and my wife said she didnt feel comfortable in that room so I said no problem lets maybe move to a smaller room. So an already uncomfortable wife I approached the door unlocked said door to be met with 4 men standing in the small corridor, I said excuse us so we could get past as we did one reached up my wife's skirt and grabbed her. Now is this is our fault?? I know 100% we weren't giving off the impression and body language that grouping was ok. My wife was already uncomfortable and now completely overwhelmed. She just wanted to leave. We did we went outside then I opened the front door the guy came around and I explained the situation and what happened. He didnt do anything about it and didnt give me the confidence that he would so we left. Ill ask again is this our fault! We dont mind people sticking up for the owner and we are not talking about _he swing here although its the same venue the experience I am sure would be different. All I would say is if I was the owner I would spoke to every male in the place and made the person own up and dealt with it. The comment on the club cant be responsible for everyone's behaviour is ridiculous of course they can. Its a small enough place to manage this after all if that sort of thing continues to happen there wont be a club left. Yes its ok to say ahh its just one unfortunate incident but the incident happened to us so our opnion on the matter is going to be different! There no one that wanted the experience to be positive more than us we drove 3 hours, paid for a hotel etc just to attend the place!! | |||
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"We were planning on going to The Swing when we’re over in August but not sure now after reading the above. Female safety (in fact everyone’s) should be THE most important thing . Normally guys that touch without asking, are pushy or don’t take no for an answer and ejected immediately from any club in the UK we’ve been to. Fortunately we haven’t had to deal with any guys like that yet but we like to go to places that have a zero tolerance to that kind of behaviour. I've got to jump in a stand up for the owners here. We've been to The Swing loads of times, and Marc runs a good club. The club can't be responsible for everyone's behaviour, it's just not possible. I'm 100% certain if you went and told them someone wouldn't take no for an answer, they would be asked to leave and banned. My wife got touched on her clothed ass without permission on our first visit, I just told the guy to fuck of, and that was it dealt with. It's fair enough to post your opinion, but maybe that was one unfortunate night. We've had some fantastic nights there and met some great people. We'll probably be there again this weekend! We'll second that.
Swinger club etiquette varies from country to country (over 50 different clubs in 5 countries here)
With the odd exception UK and German single guys tend to behave much better than their more Latin counterparts.
Over the years (over 500 club visits in 14 years) we've had a few guys push the boundary's but never felt we had to run to management. A stern NO or occasionally a bit stronger was usually enough.
I can only remember one occasion when a guy got chucked out of a place because of us.
It was Le Tantra in Cap d'Agde and Mrs had just finished a small 4 guy gang bang and wanted a break. As she was climbing off the bed a guy tried to push her back and stick his cock into her. I told him NO! He didn't listen. I said loudly FUCK OFF! He got aggressive and within a few seconds he was bounced out of the door. No need to report anything.
I do feel though that some people just shouldn't go to swinger clubs or at least stay around the bar area.
If you are over sensitive about a slight grope to an arse or brush against a tit then swinger club dark rooms and dark corridors are really not for you.
For the record we think El Sofa/The Swing is a very well run club.
Hang one here. We’re by no means shrinking violets and if we want to mingle or even watch the going’s on that’s up to us. Each of us are entitled to our opinions but mines is that’s it’s not for you or anyone else to say who sits in the bar area and who goes into the play areas. I (Mr) am certainly not averse to pulling up anyone that mistreats my wife and am more than capable of getting physical if that’s where things escalate to. I would add that this not something I’d like to have to do but woukd if absolutely necessary. My comments were in response to the couples who mention the club not reacting to their experience of guys that didn’t follow normal etiquette if you care to read it again.
You should perhaps also consider that some people are not comfortable with conflict and need to rely on the club management dealing with unruly predator types.
It's a while since we were last in a UK club. Maybe "unruly predator types" are more common there now.
In European clubs (with the exception of some of the north Africans in Cap d'Agde) they are few and far between.
If someone is getting unruly and predatory then I am fully with you. There is no room for them in the lifestyle.
However, there are certain places in swinger clubs (dark rooms for example) where over sensitive people just should not go. Dark room = groping room. Like it or not that is what they are. Maybe it is different in the UK. But on the continent that is pretty much the norm.
Let's face it, no-one goes into a dark room to have a good look.
By all means you should be able to watch the action in an open play room but don't be surprised if one or more of the guys wants to try his luck. If you are not interested then say no and by far the vast majority will accept that. But for many guys that initial light touch is the litmus test so don't blame him for it. At that point he has no idea whether he is going to be brushed away or dragged onto the bed.
"Oh excuse me, would you mind awfully if I touch your Mrs on the arse then play with her tits" just won't happen on the continent. The vast majority wouldn't even know how to say it.
Bottom line is that if you don't want attention from single guys then stick to couples only clubs/nights.
To be fair to the original comment, this didn't happen in a dedicated darkroom but in a dark corridor, of which there are a few in The Swing.
There is one with windows into a playroom where people, especially newbies will stand and watch, that's where my wife was touched.
I do agree that if you're a bit sensitive, swinger clubs may not be your ideal place.
This is the exact area in which my wife was grouped. It wasn't a dark room!. Now this will be my last comment on the situation. We have been to places in the UK with darks rooms.
We did our research before attending el sofa. And it all looked good hence why we took a 3 hour trip from vera playa to Benidorm.
We put a post on their site as per their request stating our requirements and one point being be respectful and not touch unless we say its ok!
We arrived the guy was friendly who was at reception. At that point another couple left as we paid and when we entered we got shown around by the guy. We realised at that point we were the only couple so proceeded to get our bearing and find an area to get comfortable. Something we have been able to do at the UK clubs we have visited. At that point we were unable to do that so to having multiple guys following is around where ever we went.
We then decided to move to the large room with the corridor and the windows locked the door behind us so we could get ready and play soon as the door was closed all of the holes were being used so there really wasn't anytime for us too get comfortable. Hey maybe we're too new for this type of place. We had a discussion and my wife said she didnt feel comfortable in that room so I said no problem lets maybe move to a smaller room. So an already uncomfortable wife I approached the door unlocked said door to be met with 4 men standing in the small corridor, I said excuse us so we could get past as we did one reached up my wife's skirt and grabbed her.
Now is this is our fault??
I know 100% we weren't giving off the impression and body language that grouping was ok.
My wife was already uncomfortable and now completely overwhelmed. She just wanted to leave. We did we went outside then I opened the front door the guy came around and I explained the situation and what happened. He didnt do anything about it and didnt give me the confidence that he would so we left.
Ill ask again is this our fault!
We dont mind people sticking up for the owner and we are not talking about _he swing here although its the same venue the experience I am sure would be different.
All I would say is if I was the owner I would spoke to every male in the place and made the person own up and dealt with it. The comment on the club cant be responsible for everyone's behaviour is ridiculous of course they can. Its a small enough place to manage this after all if that sort of thing continues to happen there wont be a club left.
Yes its ok to say ahh its just one unfortunate incident but the incident happened to us so our opnion on the matter is going to be different!
There no one that wanted the experience to be positive more than us we drove 3 hours, paid for a hotel etc just to attend the place!!"Honestly, you guys are deluded. I'm really sorry you had a bad experience, but I can't make the jump to how it's the clubs fault. I know Marc pretty well and he's absolutely a stand up guy with strong principles about right and wrong. To come on here and say he's at fault is plain wrong and unfair. No venue can be held responsible for the behavior of its visitors, it has zero reflection on the establishment. You've been there once, we've been dozens of times. Sorry your experience wasn't good, but it's not the clubs fault. To go back your your comment about a weird response, Marc is Dutch, English isn't his first language although he speaks it perfectly. Different nationalities have different sense of humor. | |||
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"My thinking not great for a club to market a gay club and swingers club under too separate names , been there and left rapidly found club in Alicante, worth the drive " This is very common in UK where the Greenhouse group of gay saunas run swingers events on weekend under Cameleon name | |||
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"There is so much miss information on Fab about us that we normally don't bother posting as it's costing us too much time but here we go once more. El Sofa is ***NOT*** a gay club! It's a porn cinema and yes, gays are welcome, just as CD's are welcome and Trans and single guys and COUPLES. There are a dozen monitors large and small with ALL sorts of movies and plenty of (semi) private places so it really is a place for all. Today is the 30th of July 2025 and we can tell you that a RECORD number of couples have visited us this month. No, we can not and do not guarantee anything but on MOST days there have been couples. You can easily check this on OUR forum on OUR website. Most couples who visit El Sofa are (also) interested in single guys. So much for the 'gay club'! Then, if you don't know how much it cost, there is a 'Prices' button on OUR website. There is also a 'Location' button with a map etc to make it easy. If you want to know hoe good/bad the place is you'll find many reviews on Google and Fab. Yes, there are bad reviews too. According to one male customer we are FASCISTS because we asked him (and all other male guests) to put on a towel at 11 pm as we don't want nude (couples) having sex being watched by fully clothed men. Yes, on some days we open at night as a swingers club. We can tell you that many couples are not very keen on lot's of single guys on those nights so yes, we keep the balance and yes, you have to contact us BEFORE you visit us. The atmosphere at night is very different, more sociable, very relaxing. Benidorm is not a swingers destination (like for example Gran Canaria is) and for many couples it's a first time or they have just discovered _he swinging scene. Above all it's important they feel at easy so there is no pressure, there is however a large cuddly teddy bear to snuggle up with. Finally, if you want to fly from Manchester to Alicante, would you call Ryan or Tui and ask if they fly there, on what days and how much a ticket would cost? Just saying, ALL info REALLY is on our website(s) so READ our PROFILE! If you still have any questions, contact us ('Contact' button on OUR website) and you will 100% sure get an an answer. PS: Last year we decided to no longer have a 'El Sofa' nude night (men nude, women whatever) as it was no success. Last May we changed our mind however and now we are thinking to keep it going during the winter months! With the exception of ONE evening (so far) we have had lot's of couples and guys and and and so it's now the only El Sofa day/evening when TWO people have to work! It's busy! Again, all info is in our PROFILE" Great post Marc, all absolutely accurate. This was our first club as newbies and we were made very welcome, and had an amazing time, which is why we've probably been 25+ times now! | |||
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"Can I visit today as a solo male x" Yes it's open for single guys in the daytime | |||
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