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"I hope I'm wrong but no there maybe very limited flights primar6for Business travellers" Yes most likely. | |||
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"If you think you will travel outside the Uk till there is a vaccine you are deluded. I think before any travel overseas you will need a travel card to say you have been vaccinated. Hope I’m wrong. " What vaccine? | |||
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"Some mixed replies to the yes " no answer Spain has opened some businesses so that's a positive sign ? " No sign or mention of any tourists being allowed in any time soon. We're resigned to the fact that our July holiday will be cancelled and we're just going to have to wait before deciding on booking for October. | |||
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"Sorry to be blunt no very little chance Untill vaccine arrives We are longing to go but our feeling is nothing for along time Hope we’re wrong but don’t think we will be Saying now no where near a vaccine so 2 year's mim so take your chances or stay on your own, think most will take a chance. " Not if you're sensible you wont. This virus is killing hundreds a day, are you prepared to take that chance for a holiday? | |||
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"Sorry to be blunt no very little chance Untill vaccine arrives We are longing to go but our feeling is nothing for along time Hope we’re wrong but don’t think we will be Saying now no where near a vaccine so 2 year's mim so take your chances or stay on your own, think most will take a chance. Not if you're sensible you wont. This virus is killing hundreds a day, are you prepared to take that chance for a holiday?" At the beginning of March we had 10 reported deaths in the U.K. Now that figure has risen to around 15,000 if you include deaths outside of hospitals. Yet some idiots are counting down the days to be allowed to travel to a PDI club... | |||
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"Sorry to be blunt no very little chance Untill vaccine arrives We are longing to go but our feeling is nothing for along time Hope we’re wrong but don’t think we will be Saying now no where near a vaccine so 2 year's mim so take your chances or stay on your own, think most will take a chance. Not if you're sensible you wont. This virus is killing hundreds a day, are you prepared to take that chance for a holiday? At the beginning of March we had 10 reported deaths in the U.K. Now that figure has risen to around 15,000 if you include deaths outside of hospitals. Yet some idiots are counting down the days to be allowed to travel to a PDI club..." I think we have to accept this as the new normal now, for the foreseeable future and just have sex with our partners..oh there's a novel idea | |||
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"Really don't think we're idiots at all we're responsible adults and of course we'll take advise from the government if we should be allowed to safely travel of course if it's not safe then we'll definitely not be going without question .... we can still enjoy our holiday with maybe no fun attached am sure we're all looking forward to getting some sun on our backs " Read previous posts on various threads in this forum and you will identify the people I am referring to as idiots. They are certainly not behaving responsibly. Also just because the government lifts travel restrictions it doesn’t mean it is safe to attend sex parties! Unless you are packing a Hazmat Suit in your luggage. However wearing it in the clubs will probably ruin the experience. | |||
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"We are booked for Christmas so can only hope " Wear one of these and you should be ok. https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/man-protective-hazmat-suit-3d-model/934827 | |||
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"If the government lifts it's restrictions and tells us it's safe to travel then why do you think it's not safe to travel are you a professor in science .... swinging is much more than just fucking anything that moves " swinging it an art maybe that's where your going wrong " “swinging is an art” You certainly are an artist | |||
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"Don't need one when naked on the beach .... you get one for your back garden in Newcastle " Who mentioned the beach? I don't know how with 1000 deaths in the UK each day and the effects of this virus that you can speak such rubbish! You are either stupid or just ignorant | |||
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" You are either stupid or just ignorant " Says the guy who has been arguing in just about every PDI thread | |||
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"Don't need one when naked on the beach .... you get one for your back garden in Newcastle Who mentioned the beach? I don't know how with 1000 deaths in the UK each day and the effects of this virus that you can speak such rubbish! You are either stupid or just ignorant " I bet you're class is always half empty. | |||
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"Surely we're not safe to travel until the virus is eradicated, or we are tested for immunity. It would be nice to know that was imminent, but realistically, it isnt. We are all desperate for our holidays, wherever that may be." I agree. We just all need to be patient. It’s like staying at home right now, we all need to do it as the government keeps telling us. This I the only way to slow it down. I cannot understand why some people are disagreeing with what I have said. I guess they just don’t like to hear the truth. At the end of the day it’s not just their health they are risking but more importantly other peoples. Everyone is having to make massive sacrifices throughout all this pandemic, for example not seeing loved ones or struggling financially. So if they cannot sacrifice a bit of swinging for 12 months then they need to take a long look at themselves. | |||
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"Don't need one when naked on the beach .... you get one for your back garden in Newcastle Who mentioned the beach? I don't know how with 1000 deaths in the UK each day and the effects of this virus that you can speak such rubbish! You are either stupid or just ignorant I bet you're class is always half empty. " I would love to be able to jump on the plane and fly straight out there now but things have changed...and when they will go back to how they were or if they will is anyone’s guess. By class I assume you mean glass. To answer that I am just being realistic and sensible. Which in these situations you need to be otherwise we will have a second wave of the pandemic. | |||
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"Nobody is saying we all jump on a plane right now " we're all living in hope by October things will be good to travel and like I've said in previous messages if the government says all is good to travel with no risks then I'll be on that plane and of course if there's any doubt about my health then of course there's absolutely know why I'll be travelling " They will eventually lift travel restrictions but they certainly will not say that there is no risk. Also when travel is allowed the government and local authorities are not assuming you will be heading straight to a sex club. ...! Common sense needs to be adhered to. Everyone will have to make their own judgements, hopefully they will use their head and not their cock to decide. | |||
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"Surely we're not safe to travel until the virus is eradicated, or we are tested for immunity. It would be nice to know that was imminent, but realistically, it isnt. We are all desperate for our holidays, wherever that may be. I agree. We just all need to be patient. It’s like staying at home right now, we all need to do it as the government keeps telling us. This I the only way to slow it down. I cannot understand why some people are disagreeing with what I have said. I guess they just don’t like to hear the truth. At the end of the day it’s not just their health they are risking but more importantly other peoples. Everyone is having to make massive sacrifices throughout all this pandemic, for example not seeing loved ones or struggling financially. So if they cannot sacrifice a bit of swinging for 12 months then they need to take a long look at themselves." This is the new normal for the time being and will be for some time. We're all affected in different ways, for us, it is not seeing our 8 grandchildren. My 90 year old Dad is on his own and I'm missing him, so much.So for me personally, holidays are on the bottom of my list. | |||
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"Surely we're not safe to travel until the virus is eradicated, or we are tested for immunity. It would be nice to know that was imminent, but realistically, it isnt. We are all desperate for our holidays, wherever that may be. I agree. We just all need to be patient. It’s like staying at home right now, we all need to do it as the government keeps telling us. This I the only way to slow it down. I cannot understand why some people are disagreeing with what I have said. I guess they just don’t like to hear the truth. At the end of the day it’s not just their health they are risking but more importantly other peoples. Everyone is having to make massive sacrifices throughout all this pandemic, for example not seeing loved ones or struggling financially. So if they cannot sacrifice a bit of swinging for 12 months then they need to take a long look at themselves. This is the new normal for the time being and will be for some time. We're all affected in different ways, for us, it is not seeing our 8 grandchildren. My 90 year old Dad is on his own and I'm missing him, so much.So for me personally, holidays are on the bottom of my list." This is exactly what I mean.. I went to PDI at the end of November and since then the world has become a different place. After all this I am not sure I would even want to sit arm to arm with a stranger on an aeroplane again let alone go back into the clubs full of people of all nationalities. It’s nice to dream of going back but like you say it’s the least of my priorities right now. | |||
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"Really hope so but I suspect there’ll be a series of lockdowns over the next 12 months or so until we have a vaccine or heard immunity is reached. So it depends if October coincides with a lockdown period. Going to be optimistic and say YES though " I doubt the Spanish economy could afford to not have tourism for the next 6 months | |||
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"Really hope so but I suspect there’ll be a series of lockdowns over the next 12 months or so until we have a vaccine or heard immunity is reached. So it depends if October coincides with a lockdown period. Going to be optimistic and say YES though I doubt the Spanish economy could afford to not have tourism for the next 6 months" Of course they will if necessary....it’s life or death | |||
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"Really hope so but I suspect there’ll be a series of lockdowns over the next 12 months or so until we have a vaccine or heard immunity is reached. So it depends if October coincides with a lockdown period. Going to be optimistic and say YES though I doubt the Spanish economy could afford to not have tourism for the next 6 months" Seriously?? Have you actually thought about what you're saying? | |||
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"Really hope so but I suspect there’ll be a series of lockdowns over the next 12 months or so until we have a vaccine or heard immunity is reached. So it depends if October coincides with a lockdown period. Going to be optimistic and say YES though I doubt the Spanish economy could afford to not have tourism for the next 6 months Of course they will if necessary....it’s life or death" Spain have already mentioned that tourist may have to adopt social distance measures on the beach and in restaurants when the open up again. They have only started to lift lockdown on Monday So to think that tourist will not be permitted to visit in October is off the mark | |||
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"For those of you who STILL don't understand what we're going through... watch Ross Kemp on the front line ITV....might make you realise, not that anyone should need reminding ?? " You were making sense until you cited Ross Kemp | |||
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"For those of you who STILL don't understand what we're going through... watch Ross Kemp on the front line ITV....might make you realise, not that anyone should need reminding ?? You were making sense until you cited Ross Kemp " Yes that hard hitting investigate reporter Ross Kemp | |||
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"For those of you who STILL don't understand what we're going through... watch Ross Kemp on the front line ITV....might make you realise, not that anyone should need reminding ?? You were making sense until you cited Ross Kemp Yes that hard hitting investigate reporter Ross Kemp " I am not a big Ross Kemp fan however it doesn’t matter who was reporting, the facts are there. Anyway it’s probably all above your head....plus I would like to see you say that to Ross Kemp face to face instead of hiding behind your keyboard which just about says it all about you. | |||
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"Think people are confused with coronavirus and covid-19. Covid-19 is a strain of the coronavirus, as is the common cold and seasonal flu but it's a new, or novel virus, so none of us have immunity. There will be a vaccine but just as seasonal flu mutates and different strains prevail, so covid-19 is likely to do so and will become an addition to seasonal flu. Immunity will build, over time but there will never be 100% immunity. The unpredictability of how it affects different people, to different extents, is the aggravating factor, which sets covid-19 apart from other viruses......in my opinion" Its amazing how in the space of a few weeks how many people have become micro biologists and infectious disease scientists. | |||
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"Think people are confused with coronavirus and covid-19. Covid-19 is a strain of the coronavirus, as is the common cold and seasonal flu but it's a new, or novel virus, so none of us have immunity. There will be a vaccine but just as seasonal flu mutates and different strains prevail, so covid-19 is likely to do so and will become an addition to seasonal flu. Immunity will build, over time but there will never be 100% immunity. The unpredictability of how it affects different people, to different extents, is the aggravating factor, which sets covid-19 apart from other viruses......in my opinion Its amazing how in the space of a few weeks how many people have become micro biologists and infectious disease scientists. " No...but it's amazing how some people fail to actually research and just blab opinion without any foundation.....an opinion, based on well read research, is not an expert opinion but is a valid opinion.....anything else is just mouthing off, from the safety of your phone/keyboard and usually from a hidden(but well verified...of course) profile. Not meaning to sterotype but usually also from a single male profile .....just saying like #where'sthebasisohrightthereisnone | |||
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"Really hope so but I suspect there’ll be a series of lockdowns over the next 12 months or so until we have a vaccine or heard immunity is reached. So it depends if October coincides with a lockdown period. Going to be optimistic and say YES though I doubt the Spanish economy could afford to not have tourism for the next 6 months Of course they will if necessary....it’s life or death Spain have already mentioned that tourist may have to adopt social distance measures on the beach and in restaurants when the open up again. They have only started to lift lockdown on Monday So to think that tourist will not be permitted to visit in October is off the mark " Lockdown is still in place for another 3 weeks according to my friends on the island. They are hoping then they will be able to go out and take exercise. It sounds like businesses will start opening on a gradual basis with bars and restaurants being last but they are unsure. They are just frustrated they can't exercise daily like we can. | |||
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"to call people 'deluded' is wrong, they have an opinion as do you. Unless you know something everyone doesn't, why is it not possible? Who told you about the travel card? Maybe it is you that is deluded (doh! did it myself)" I do apologise for calling people deluded. But if you think countries will allow travel without a Covid-19 Health clearance travel card. Then you are deluded. | |||
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"Think people are confused with coronavirus and covid-19. Covid-19 is a strain of the coronavirus, as is the common cold and seasonal flu but it's a new, or novel virus, so none of us have immunity. There will be a vaccine but just as seasonal flu mutates and different strains prevail, so covid-19 is likely to do so and will become an addition to seasonal flu. Immunity will build, over time but there will never be 100% immunity. The unpredictability of how it affects different people, to different extents, is the aggravating factor, which sets covid-19 apart from other viruses......in my opinion Its amazing how in the space of a few weeks how many people have become micro biologists and infectious disease scientists. No...but it's amazing how some people fail to actually research and just blab opinion without any foundation.....an opinion, based on well read research, is not an expert opinion but is a valid opinion.....anything else is just mouthing off, from the safety of your phone/keyboard and usually from a hidden(but well verified...of course) profile. Not meaning to sterotype but usually also from a single male profile .....just saying like #where'sthebasisohrightthereisnone" I see the childish game of "i know more than you" and "i'm right so you are wrong" is rearing its head again. Perhaps we need to get our own house in order before we start assuming about the situation elsewhere. How things develop within our own shores is where the real threat to any future holidays lays at the present time, and ultimately will dictate if and when we can travel anywhere. And remember......another's opinion is just that, an opinion, and by definition cannot be wrong. So let's allow others to express their personal opinion without trying to belittle them. "Speak your truth quietly and clearly and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story." Max Ehrmann 1927 | |||
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"Just a wee survey who thinks yes or no we'll be able to travel for our holiday and much needed fun YES OR No " We're thinking Dec would be possible and have transfer booked for then but still undecided if it will happen. | |||
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"If lived on the island of GC the last people I would want there is plane loads of overseas swingers . Perhaps the island will clean up its act and close all the clubs for good and re market itself . " Would you also like them to close down the gay bars in Yumbo too?Tourism is one of their biggest industries, numerous islanders depend on it for their livelihoods, I do think they might object! | |||
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"If lived on the island of GC the last people I would want there is plane loads of overseas swingers . Perhaps the island will clean up its act and close all the clubs for good and re market itself . " I suppose anything is possible in the current climate, but I doubt it. I used to visit PDI a lot in the early/mid 90's long before the swinger scene really took off there. In those days the place was very busy and had a good fresh feel about it. The Irish quarter (around the Greenfield) the Kasbah and Metro centres were all packed at night. When we visited again a few years ago (this time on a swinger holiday) I noticed a huge difference. While the swinger scene and the gay bars were busy, the rest of the place was eerily quiet and to be honest I thought looked more than a little run down. While we would certainly go back one day for a swinger holiday, it would be way down the list for a vanilla beach holiday. It will take quite some time for any kind of tourism to get going again so shutting down the swinger and gay scene permanently would be a very big mistake. | |||
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"If lived on the island of GC the last people I would want there is plane loads of overseas swingers . Perhaps the island will clean up its act and close all the clubs for good and re market itself . I suppose anything is possible in the current climate, but I doubt it. I used to visit PDI a lot in the early/mid 90's long before the swinger scene really took off there. In those days the place was very busy and had a good fresh feel about it. The Irish quarter (around the Greenfield) the Kasbah and Metro centres were all packed at night. When we visited again a few years ago (this time on a swinger holiday) I noticed a huge difference. While the swinger scene and the gay bars were busy, the rest of the place was eerily quiet and to be honest I thought looked more than a little run down. While we would certainly go back one day for a swinger holiday, it would be way down the list for a vanilla beach holiday. It will take quite some time for any kind of tourism to get going again so shutting down the swinger and gay scene permanently would be a very big mistake. " Good post. I agree PDI is run down. However maybe a switch from the swinger tourist to the vanilla holiday makers, ie families, young ones and the anyone inbetween would be a better move. As this demographic will bring in more money. Not only is it a wider group but they will also spend more money especially during the day...while the typical swinger sleeps it off or sunbathes by the pool or beach. At night time once in a club they are doing activities more than spending money. To attract more tourism obviously money needs to be spent. It’s got to be worth it to them though long term as the island is a prime holiday location with year round sunshine and easily accessible for most of Europe. | |||
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"If lived on the island of GC the last people I would want there is plane loads of overseas swingers . Perhaps the island will clean up its act and close all the clubs for good and re market itself . I suppose anything is possible in the current climate, but I doubt it. I used to visit PDI a lot in the early/mid 90's long before the swinger scene really took off there. In those days the place was very busy and had a good fresh feel about it. The Irish quarter (around the Greenfield) the Kasbah and Metro centres were all packed at night. When we visited again a few years ago (this time on a swinger holiday) I noticed a huge difference. While the swinger scene and the gay bars were busy, the rest of the place was eerily quiet and to be honest I thought looked more than a little run down. While we would certainly go back one day for a swinger holiday, it would be way down the list for a vanilla beach holiday. It will take quite some time for any kind of tourism to get going again so shutting down the swinger and gay scene permanently would be a very big mistake. " I agree I wouldn’t go for a vanilla holiday as it is run down resort. | |||
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"We have always said we wouldn't go to PDI for a vanilla holiday. It is a little run down now, but we always enjoyed the club nightlife. That obviously will change, until all this is sorted, the question is when, unfortunately..." It’s a shame if it is lost forever. It does have a certain charm for a non vanilla holiday. Each time you go nothing much changes, just a little more run down than the last time you went. For a swinging holiday it doesn’t bother me as long as the hotel is good and the rest is down to the people. | |||
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"We have always said we wouldn't go to PDI for a vanilla holiday. It is a little run down now, but we always enjoyed the club nightlife. That obviously will change, until all this is sorted, the question is when, unfortunately..." | |||
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"We have always said we wouldn't go to PDI for a vanilla holiday. It is a little run down now, but we always enjoyed the club nightlife. That obviously will change, until all this is sorted, the question is when, unfortunately... It’s a shame if it is lost forever. It does have a certain charm for a non vanilla holiday. Each time you go nothing much changes, just a little more run down than the last time you went. For a swinging holiday it doesn’t bother me as long as the hotel is good and the rest is down to the people." It is a shame. Lots of businesses will be affected all over the world, in some way. | |||
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"Once lockdown lifted Spain is going to enforce 6ft social distancing on beaches, hotels etc until vaccine or immunity which they say could be 18 months, can't see how the clubs and this lifestyle would flourish out there to be honest " The distancing will be challenging for some too... | |||
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"Once lockdown lifted Spain is going to enforce 6ft social distancing on beaches, hotels etc until vaccine or immunity which they say could be 18 months, can't see how the clubs and this lifestyle would flourish out there to be honest The distancing will be challenging for some too..." Can't see how they are going to allow the clubs out there to open | |||
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"Once lockdown lifted Spain is going to enforce 6ft social distancing on beaches, hotels etc until vaccine or immunity which they say could be 18 months, can't see how the clubs and this lifestyle would flourish out there to be honest The distancing will be challenging for some too... Can't see how they are going to allow the clubs out there to open " They won't be able to , with the distancing, also other little bars. | |||
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"OMG ! There are some doom merchants posting on here. We all know about as much as the World govt are telling us !! Spain / Canary isle rely heavily on tourist industry. No tourist no economy , hotels & everything would shut down. Mass unemployment no money to buy food to put on their plates. That’s the flip reverse argument. Currently 800 deaths per day out of 66 million population !! Over 90% are people with “known” underlying condition. The approx 10% had No “Known” underlying condition. People drop dead every day of the week with no known underlying condition !! Back on subject ! I’m hoping to book for October Priority is to enjoy winter sun not the sex !" The value of tourism to Spains GDP is only around 12%(hard to be exact, as the last published figures are 2017), not that much more than tourism contributes to UK GDP. So they don't exactly rely on it.....and also a certain percentage of that is domestic generated. The smaller economies, the likes of the Caribbean Islands, depend on it much more, in that respect | |||
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"OMG ! There are some doom merchants posting on here. We all know about as much as the World govt are telling us !! Spain / Canary isle rely heavily on tourist industry. No tourist no economy , hotels & everything would shut down. Mass unemployment no money to buy food to put on their plates. That’s the flip reverse argument. Currently 800 deaths per day out of 66 million population !! Over 90% are people with “known” underlying condition. The approx 10% had No “Known” underlying condition. People drop dead every day of the week with no known underlying condition !! Back on subject ! I’m hoping to book for October Priority is to enjoy winter sun not the sex !" This guy really knows what he is talking about... | |||
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"OMG ! There are some doom merchants posting on here. We all know about as much as the World govt are telling us !! Spain / Canary isle rely heavily on tourist industry. No tourist no economy , hotels & everything would shut down. Mass unemployment no money to buy food to put on their plates. That’s the flip reverse argument. Currently 800 deaths per day out of 66 million population !! Over 90% are people with “known” underlying condition. The approx 10% had No “Known” underlying condition. People drop dead every day of the week with no known underlying condition !! Back on subject ! I’m hoping to book for October Priority is to enjoy winter sun not the sex ! The value of tourism to Spains GDP is only around 12%(hard to be exact, as the last published figures are 2017), not that much more than tourism contributes to UK GDP. So they don't exactly rely on it.....and also a certain percentage of that is domestic generated. The smaller economies, the likes of the Caribbean Islands, depend on it much more, in that respect " Exactly...this guy who recons if Spain has no tourist then it has no economy has probably only ever been to Benidorm and the Costa del Sol. It’s half wits like him that will bring on a second wave of this virus | |||
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"OMG ! There are some doom merchants posting on here. We all know about as much as the World govt are telling us !! Spain / Canary isle rely heavily on tourist industry. No tourist no economy , hotels & everything would shut down. Mass unemployment no money to buy food to put on their plates. That’s the flip reverse argument. Currently 800 deaths per day out of 66 million population !! Over 90% are people with “known” underlying condition. The approx 10% had No “Known” underlying condition. People drop dead every day of the week with no known underlying condition !! Back on subject ! I’m hoping to book for October Priority is to enjoy winter sun not the sex ! The value of tourism to Spains GDP is only around 12%(hard to be exact, as the last published figures are 2017), not that much more than tourism contributes to UK GDP. So they don't exactly rely on it.....and also a certain percentage of that is domestic generated. The smaller economies, the likes of the Caribbean Islands, depend on it much more, in that respect Exactly...this guy who recons if Spain has no tourist then it has no economy has probably only ever been to Benidorm and the Costa del Sol. It’s half wits like him that will bring on a second wave of this virus " Resorting to insults means you lost the argument. Take tourism away from Canary Islands what income will the locals live on. Put perspective on this. Corona has cost lives But normality will return. Your outlook appears to be saying stay in indefinite isolation. What is the point of you staying on Fab .. | |||
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"OMG ! There are some doom merchants posting on here. We all know about as much as the World govt are telling us !! Spain / Canary isle rely heavily on tourist industry. No tourist no economy , hotels & everything would shut down. Mass unemployment no money to buy food to put on their plates. That’s the flip reverse argument. Currently 800 deaths per day out of 66 million population !! Over 90% are people with “known” underlying condition. The approx 10% had No “Known” underlying condition. People drop dead every day of the week with no known underlying condition !! Back on subject ! I’m hoping to book for October Priority is to enjoy winter sun not the sex ! The value of tourism to Spains GDP is only around 12%(hard to be exact, as the last published figures are 2017), not that much more than tourism contributes to UK GDP. So they don't exactly rely on it.....and also a certain percentage of that is domestic generated. The smaller economies, the likes of the Caribbean Islands, depend on it much more, in that respect Exactly...this guy who recons if Spain has no tourist then it has no economy has probably only ever been to Benidorm and the Costa del Sol. It’s half wits like him that will bring on a second wave of this virus Resorting to insults means you lost the argument. Take tourism away from Canary Islands what income will the locals live on. Put perspective on this. Corona has cost lives But normality will return. Your outlook appears to be saying stay in indefinite isolation. What is the point of you staying on Fab .." Corona will cost lives in the Canaries too, if they open up too soon.. | |||
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"OMG ! There are some doom merchants posting on here. We all know about as much as the World govt are telling us !! Spain / Canary isle rely heavily on tourist industry. No tourist no economy , hotels & everything would shut down. Mass unemployment no money to buy food to put on their plates. That’s the flip reverse argument. Currently 800 deaths per day out of 66 million population !! Over 90% are people with “known” underlying condition. The approx 10% had No “Known” underlying condition. People drop dead every day of the week with no known underlying condition !! Back on subject ! I’m hoping to book for October Priority is to enjoy winter sun not the sex ! The value of tourism to Spains GDP is only around 12%(hard to be exact, as the last published figures are 2017), not that much more than tourism contributes to UK GDP. So they don't exactly rely on it.....and also a certain percentage of that is domestic generated. The smaller economies, the likes of the Caribbean Islands, depend on it much more, in that respect Exactly...this guy who recons if Spain has no tourist then it has no economy has probably only ever been to Benidorm and the Costa del Sol. It’s half wits like him that will bring on a second wave of this virus Resorting to insults means you lost the argument. Take tourism away from Canary Islands what income will the locals live on. Put perspective on this. Corona has cost lives But normality will return. Your outlook appears to be saying stay in indefinite isolation. What is the point of you staying on Fab .." You obviously have never travelled outside of the resorts in the Canaries.....and the point of an unverified, single straight male, who wants to meet MM couples and Tv/Ts, staying on Fab, is what exactly? Another weekend keyboard warrior.... | |||
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"OMG ! There are some doom merchants posting on here. We all know about as much as the World govt are telling us !! Spain / Canary isle rely heavily on tourist industry. No tourist no economy , hotels & everything would shut down. Mass unemployment no money to buy food to put on their plates. That’s the flip reverse argument. Currently 800 deaths per day out of 66 million population !! Over 90% are people with “known” underlying condition. The approx 10% had No “Known” underlying condition. People drop dead every day of the week with no known underlying condition !! Back on subject ! I’m hoping to book for October Priority is to enjoy winter sun not the sex ! The value of tourism to Spains GDP is only around 12%(hard to be exact, as the last published figures are 2017), not that much more than tourism contributes to UK GDP. So they don't exactly rely on it.....and also a certain percentage of that is domestic generated. The smaller economies, the likes of the Caribbean Islands, depend on it much more, in that respect Exactly...this guy who recons if Spain has no tourist then it has no economy has probably only ever been to Benidorm and the Costa del Sol. It’s half wits like him that will bring on a second wave of this virus Resorting to insults means you lost the argument. Take tourism away from Canary Islands what income will the locals live on. Put perspective on this. Corona has cost lives But normality will return. Your outlook appears to be saying stay in indefinite isolation. What is the point of you staying on Fab .. You obviously have never travelled outside of the resorts in the Canaries.....and the point of an unverified, single straight male, who wants to meet MM couples and Tv/Ts, staying on Fab, is what exactly? Another weekend keyboard warrior.... " The only travels being made is by the virus and won't be many verified by it | |||
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"The value of tourism to Spains GDP is only around 12%(hard to be exact, as the last published figures are 2017), not that much more than tourism contributes to UK GDP. So they don't exactly rely on it.....and also a certain percentage of that is domestic generated. The smaller economies, the likes of the Caribbean Islands, depend on it much more, in that respect " As this thread is about Gran Canaria and the effect of the loss of tourism due to COVID-19 shouldn't you have quoted the contribution that tourism adds to the GDP for the Canaries rather than Spain as a whole? Don't worry....i've done it for you. Not surprisingly tourism was responsible for 84.9% of the GDP for the region in 2018. With a year on year growth of 2.8% the projected figure for 2020 is 85.46%. So....i would say they DO rely on it very heavily, don't you agree? You've no need to thank me, you can just buy me a pint in Imagine Bar........Coors Light, same as you | |||
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"The value of tourism to Spains GDP is only around 12%(hard to be exact, as the last published figures are 2017), not that much more than tourism contributes to UK GDP. So they don't exactly rely on it.....and also a certain percentage of that is domestic generated. The smaller economies, the likes of the Caribbean Islands, depend on it much more, in that respect As this thread is about Gran Canaria and the effect of the loss of tourism due to COVID-19 shouldn't you have quoted the contribution that tourism adds to the GDP for the Canaries rather than Spain as a whole? Don't worry....i've done it for you. Not surprisingly tourism was responsible for 84.9% of the GDP for the region in 2018. With a year on year growth of 2.8% the projected figure for 2020 is 85.46%. So....i would say they DO rely on it very heavily, don't you agree? You've no need to thank me, you can just buy me a pint in Imagine Bar........Coors Light, same as you " If Gran Canaria was a stand alone economy, that would be a relevant fact but it isn't, so sorry, no pint | |||
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"The value of tourism to Spains GDP is only around 12%(hard to be exact, as the last published figures are 2017), not that much more than tourism contributes to UK GDP. So they don't exactly rely on it.....and also a certain percentage of that is domestic generated. The smaller economies, the likes of the Caribbean Islands, depend on it much more, in that respect As this thread is about Gran Canaria and the effect of the loss of tourism due to COVID-19 shouldn't you have quoted the contribution that tourism adds to the GDP for the Canaries rather than Spain as a whole? Don't worry....i've done it for you. Not surprisingly tourism was responsible for 84.9% of the GDP for the region in 2018. With a year on year growth of 2.8% the projected figure for 2020 is 85.46%. So....i would say they DO rely on it very heavily, don't you agree? You've no need to thank me, you can just buy me a pint in Imagine Bar........Coors Light, same as you If Gran Canaria was a stand alone economy, that would be a relevant fact but it isn't, so sorry, no pint" Although nothing to do with the Canary's specifically, but while we are on the subject of beer. The Germans have just cancelled Oktoberfest. and that is many months away. I suppose it could be slightly relevant to the islands if only as an indication of how Europe is thinking in general. | |||
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"Speaking to a friend in GC last night. She says the talk generally is no bars or restaurants before Xmas. " , Oh dear, not good | |||
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"Speaking to a friend in GC last night. She says the talk generally is no bars or restaurants before Xmas. " We are in lockdown now till May 9th. After that they will slowly start to go back to normal....but the news (not official) is that bars and restaurants will be open at the last on the list, hopefully in September or October xx | |||
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"Speaking to a friend in GC last night. She says the talk generally is no bars or restaurants before Xmas. " My friend from gc said to me the same . And send vidio of Maspalomas and pdi beach today .. only 2 policeman on the vidio patrolling the maspalomas beach . It so sad .. hope all the bars hotels clubs can survive in that situation. Wish them all good luck xx | |||
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"The President of the Canary Islands has highlighted the exceptional and difficult position that the Canary Islands are in due to Coronavirus. They are the least affected area of Spain in terms of case numbers but the most economically damaged. He expects Canarian government revenues in 2020 to drop by at least 25% (a 600 million euro shortfall). He also said that from an economic perspective the islands' hotels cannot stay closed for the whole of 2020. The Canarian authorities plan to allow hotels to open as soon as is prudent. He warned that June is likely to be too soon but that hotels could open in July and August for inter-island and national tourism. He also stated that international tourists could start to return from October. This time frame depends on other European countries opening up their borders and airspace, and on the return of international flights. This is the latest news (in the last 10 mins) " | |||
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"The President of the Canary Islands has highlighted the exceptional and difficult position that the Canary Islands are in due to Coronavirus. They are the least affected area of Spain in terms of case numbers but the most economically damaged. He expects Canarian government revenues in 2020 to drop by at least 25% (a 600 million euro shortfall). He also said that from an economic perspective the islands' hotels cannot stay closed for the whole of 2020. The Canarian authorities plan to allow hotels to open as soon as is prudent. He warned that June is likely to be too soon but that hotels could open in July and August for inter-island and national tourism. He also stated that international tourists could start to return from October. This time frame depends on other European countries opening up their borders and airspace, and on the return of international flights. This is the latest news (in the last 10 mins) " Sounds much more promising | |||
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" Especially tourists going from the UK. Our Government is a laughing stock in Europe in the way this has been dealt with so why on earth would GC want to let us in untill our house is in order?" We've the same death rate as Italy and Spain had two weeks ago and it's stabilising, what are we doing wrong ? | |||
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"Just was thinking here .. if gc holidays October gona happiend .. it not gona be the same like before .. 1st flights (no social distance) ..hotel transfers? Stay in hotel and pool ? Go to beach ..restaurants..bars ? Will you be ok to go there ? I have holiday booked for October but realy cant see myself going there Is anyone thinks the same or just me x" We don't think it's even worth looking at October RB, no vaccine means almost certainly a second wave will hit, when lockdown is relaxed....they will actually only relax lockdown to ease fatigue and also(surprisingly)to increase the level of infection, as that will(hopefully) increase numbers with some degree of immunity. They are attempting to control spread, it won't go away until there is a vaccine, or numbers that have been infected and developed immunity reach around 90%, ie herd immunity, which will effectively halt the spread. No matter how dependent places are on tourism, to relax restrictions and then face a second lockdown, once infection/death rates start to rise again, is more costly in the long run. No vaccine, no complete end to restrictions....simple as that. In some other forums, idiots are saying that GC should go against the Spanish mainland and open up immediately to tourists.....one idiot argued that there was nothing stopping people getting flights from UK to GC now and that it was only Foreign and Commonwealth Office 'advice' against travel... anyone here still got a flight that's going to GC? and with no likelihood of travel insurance covering anything covid-19 related, it's pretty much book at your own risk. Horrible times but until they sort out the airports /planes /hotels /restaurants etc holidays aren't going to resume. If you were on the first flight to return to GC, would you expect it to be like the GC of old?? | |||
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"Reading all this thread,understand ppl wanting to go to GC as we do and booked for Oct, but in reality how can any one social distance in the life we play, bars resteraunts beaches all places of close gatherings, as much is we want to go, it dont sound safe, we r all in lockdown for a reason, not to just jump on a plane and go, if the planes r allowed to fly, with no vaccine no huggin greeting touching kissing just to say hello to old friends, seems right to not go to keep u and your friends safe, a yr is not long to wait if u rebook just hope GC bars and clubs can survive this as many in in uk might not, stay safe keep well xxx" Extremely easy to social distance round pool / on beach / in bars and restaurants with outside terraces. We’re booked for October and not sure if we’ll go but social distancing won’t be a deciding factor. More than happy to soak up the atmosphere without any play | |||
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"Reading all this thread,understand ppl wanting to go to GC as we do and booked for Oct, but in reality how can any one social distance in the life we play, bars resteraunts beaches all places of close gatherings, as much is we want to go, it dont sound safe, we r all in lockdown for a reason, not to just jump on a plane and go, if the planes r allowed to fly, with no vaccine no huggin greeting touching kissing just to say hello to old friends, seems right to not go to keep u and your friends safe, a yr is not long to wait if u rebook just hope GC bars and clubs can survive this as many in in uk might not, stay safe keep well xxx" So they are looking to open up for international tourists from October. There will obviously still be some social distancing and could work for outside areas. I would just find it a little stifling and we have to be confident that we're not going to airports, on planes etc and may pick up the virus, not sure how that would work. At least for GC themselves, it looks like they will soon be out and about and hopefully no one travels there, carrying the virus, as well as their luggage | |||
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"Reading all this thread,understand ppl wanting to go to GC as we do and booked for Oct, but in reality how can any one social distance in the life we play, bars resteraunts beaches all places of close gatherings, as much is we want to go, it dont sound safe, we r all in lockdown for a reason, not to just jump on a plane and go, if the planes r allowed to fly, with no vaccine no huggin greeting touching kissing just to say hello to old friends, seems right to not go to keep u and your friends safe, a yr is not long to wait if u rebook just hope GC bars and clubs can survive this as many in in uk might not, stay safe keep well xxx Extremely easy to social distance round pool / on beach / in bars and restaurants with outside terraces. We’re booked for October and not sure if we’ll go but social distancing won’t be a deciding factor. More than happy to soak up the atmosphere without any play " The huge issue is and will be the airports/planes/transfers. I doubt, without a vaccine/immunity certificates, that the clubs will be allowed to reopen....and if they did, would you really want to go there? We had the issue, last October, with the beggar that was spitting at people....imagine that happening, in the current climate? I expect our first holiday back to entirely be a vanilla one, with purely social interaction, at least that's what I'm thinking for now.....stay safe! | |||
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"Just a thoughts .. ok face mask all the way in the airport and flight .. dont touch your face .. dont drink dont eat ... Transfer .. get taxi.. Hotel disinfect all in the room and your baggage. Better stay in the bungalow Beach ..mask agene ? Disinfect your sun bed ? Restaurant bars ?? People with a drinks will not keep distance.. Swingers clubs deffently no for me if i am going to go in October.. Might just change October holiday to the next year .. it is just my own opinion on gc holiday in October.. like i said before i cant see myself going there to enjoe it x" I agree RB, it would be too restrictive for us | |||
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"Just a thoughts .. ok face mask all the way in the airport and flight .. dont touch your face .. dont drink dont eat ... Transfer .. get taxi.. Hotel disinfect all in the room and your baggage. Better stay in the bungalow Beach ..mask agene ? Disinfect your sun bed ? Restaurant bars ?? People with a drinks will not keep distance.. Swingers clubs deffently no for me if i am going to go in October.. Might just change October holiday to the next year .. it is just my own opinion on gc holiday in October.. like i said before i cant see myself going there to enjoe it x I agree RB, it would be too restrictive for us Think positive go on holiday .. it is fine .!!. but be realistic as well .. x" We will, but next year. Don't want to be in lockdown in a hotel in GC if the virus rears its ugly head | |||
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"Reading all this thread,understand ppl wanting to go to GC as we do and booked for Oct, but in reality how can any one social distance in the life we play, bars resteraunts beaches all places of close gatherings, as much is we want to go, it dont sound safe, we r all in lockdown for a reason, not to just jump on a plane and go, if the planes r allowed to fly, with no vaccine no huggin greeting touching kissing just to say hello to old friends, seems right to not go to keep u and your friends safe, a yr is not long to wait if u rebook just hope GC bars and clubs can survive this as many in in uk might not, stay safe keep well xxx Extremely easy to social distance round pool / on beach / in bars and restaurants with outside terraces. We’re booked for October and not sure if we’ll go but social distancing won’t be a deciding factor. More than happy to soak up the atmosphere without any play The huge issue is and will be the airports/planes/transfers. I doubt, without a vaccine/immunity certificates, that the clubs will be allowed to reopen....and if they did, would you really want to go there? We had the issue, last October, with the beggar that was spitting at people....imagine that happening, in the current climate? I expect our first holiday back to entirely be a vanilla one, with purely social interaction, at least that's what I'm thinking for now.....stay safe!" I guess the beggar didn't like you, we had a great time Nov 19 and Feb20 and didn't get spat on once. Booked for end of November beginning of December and if they let us in we'll be there enjoying ourselves a bit more careful than before but still enjoying ourselves. | |||
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"Reading all this thread,understand ppl wanting to go to GC as we do and booked for Oct, but in reality how can any one social distance in the life we play, bars resteraunts beaches all places of close gatherings, as much is we want to go, it dont sound safe, we r all in lockdown for a reason, not to just jump on a plane and go, if the planes r allowed to fly, with no vaccine no huggin greeting touching kissing just to say hello to old friends, seems right to not go to keep u and your friends safe, a yr is not long to wait if u rebook just hope GC bars and clubs can survive this as many in in uk might not, stay safe keep well xxx Extremely easy to social distance round pool / on beach / in bars and restaurants with outside terraces. We’re booked for October and not sure if we’ll go but social distancing won’t be a deciding factor. More than happy to soak up the atmosphere without any play The huge issue is and will be the airports/planes/transfers. I doubt, without a vaccine/immunity certificates, that the clubs will be allowed to reopen....and if they did, would you really want to go there? We had the issue, last October, with the beggar that was spitting at people....imagine that happening, in the current climate? I expect our first holiday back to entirely be a vanilla one, with purely social interaction, at least that's what I'm thinking for now.....stay safe! I guess the beggar didn't like you, we had a great time Nov 19 and Feb20 and didn't get spat on once. Booked for end of November beginning of December and if they let us in we'll be there enjoying ourselves a bit more careful than before but still enjoying ourselves." He didn't like a good few people, the restaurant owners and management of the complex knew about him and Police presence was high in the area after a few similar reports. Having been 2/3 times a year, for the last 7/8 years, we know the place well enough and were just commenting in the context of covid-19. Thanks | |||
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"Reading all this thread,understand ppl wanting to go to GC as we do and booked for Oct, but in reality how can any one social distance in the life we play, bars resteraunts beaches all places of close gatherings, as much is we want to go, it dont sound safe, we r all in lockdown for a reason, not to just jump on a plane and go, if the planes r allowed to fly, with no vaccine no huggin greeting touching kissing just to say hello to old friends, seems right to not go to keep u and your friends safe, a yr is not long to wait if u rebook just hope GC bars and clubs can survive this as many in in uk might not, stay safe keep well xxx Extremely easy to social distance round pool / on beach / in bars and restaurants with outside terraces. We’re booked for October and not sure if we’ll go but social distancing won’t be a deciding factor. More than happy to soak up the atmosphere without any play The huge issue is and will be the airports/planes/transfers. I doubt, without a vaccine/immunity certificates, that the clubs will be allowed to reopen....and if they did, would you really want to go there? We had the issue, last October, with the beggar that was spitting at people....imagine that happening, in the current climate? I expect our first holiday back to entirely be a vanilla one, with purely social interaction, at least that's what I'm thinking for now.....stay safe! I guess the beggar didn't like you, we had a great time Nov 19 and Feb20 and didn't get spat on once. Booked for end of November beginning of December and if they let us in we'll be there enjoying ourselves a bit more careful than before but still enjoying ourselves." A bit more careful ... ok what realy you mean ..just intresting for me ? Lol | |||
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"Reading all this thread,understand ppl wanting to go to GC as we do and booked for Oct, but in reality how can any one social distance in the life we play, bars resteraunts beaches all places of close gatherings, as much is we want to go, it dont sound safe, we r all in lockdown for a reason, not to just jump on a plane and go, if the planes r allowed to fly, with no vaccine no huggin greeting touching kissing just to say hello to old friends, seems right to not go to keep u and your friends safe, a yr is not long to wait if u rebook just hope GC bars and clubs can survive this as many in in uk might not, stay safe keep well xxx Extremely easy to social distance round pool / on beach / in bars and restaurants with outside terraces. We’re booked for October and not sure if we’ll go but social distancing won’t be a deciding factor. More than happy to soak up the atmosphere without any play The huge issue is and will be the airports/planes/transfers. I doubt, without a vaccine/immunity certificates, that the clubs will be allowed to reopen....and if they did, would you really want to go there? We had the issue, last October, with the beggar that was spitting at people....imagine that happening, in the current climate? I expect our first holiday back to entirely be a vanilla one, with purely social interaction, at least that's what I'm thinking for now.....stay safe! I guess the beggar didn't like you, we had a great time Nov 19 and Feb20 and didn't get spat on once. Booked for end of November beginning of December and if they let us in we'll be there enjoying ourselves a bit more careful than before but still enjoying ourselves. A bit more careful ... ok what realy you mean ..just intresting for me ? Lol" 69 only lol | |||
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"Reading all this thread,understand ppl wanting to go to GC as we do and booked for Oct, but in reality how can any one social distance in the life we play, bars resteraunts beaches all places of close gatherings, as much is we want to go, it dont sound safe, we r all in lockdown for a reason, not to just jump on a plane and go, if the planes r allowed to fly, with no vaccine no huggin greeting touching kissing just to say hello to old friends, seems right to not go to keep u and your friends safe, a yr is not long to wait if u rebook just hope GC bars and clubs can survive this as many in in uk might not, stay safe keep well xxx Extremely easy to social distance round pool / on beach / in bars and restaurants with outside terraces. We’re booked for October and not sure if we’ll go but social distancing won’t be a deciding factor. More than happy to soak up the atmosphere without any play The huge issue is and will be the airports/planes/transfers. I doubt, without a vaccine/immunity certificates, that the clubs will be allowed to reopen....and if they did, would you really want to go there? We had the issue, last October, with the beggar that was spitting at people....imagine that happening, in the current climate? I expect our first holiday back to entirely be a vanilla one, with purely social interaction, at least that's what I'm thinking for now.....stay safe! I guess the beggar didn't like you, we had a great time Nov 19 and Feb20 and didn't get spat on once. Booked for end of November beginning of December and if they let us in we'll be there enjoying ourselves a bit more careful than before but still enjoying ourselves. A bit more careful ... ok what realy you mean ..just intresting for me ? Lol 69 only lol" Good luck with that | |||
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"Hope you are all keeping well. Just wanted to say generally that we are basically all confused, and cannot be sure what the future holds. However using a forum to make "cheap" swipe at people's opinions, no matter whether you think they are stupid or deluded is a bit of a low blow to our normally sane and friendly community at this awful time in the world. I am sure nobody truly has all the answers at this time. Stay safe. " I couldn't agree more | |||
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"Wouldn't consider making a decision at the moment. Be interesting to see if the numbers go up in countries coming out of lockdown. If the numbers stay fairly constant there's a chance, if they soar, think this will be an ongoing problem for some time yet. Stay safe everyone, health first, holiday second. " Unfortunately I do agree with you, thinking all of our sun holidays abroad this year won't happen. | |||
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"Would just be nice if they open up studland before summer is over x" They may do yet, let's hope we can get the economy going again | |||
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"So IF flights get going, if airports can run to capacity,with transfers, if hotels are running propperly with full staff and food, liyng buy the pool with face masks, sitting next to some one, on the beach sun bathing with masks, with limited bars and restaraunts if any, so at all times keeping social distancing and face masks on at all times when out, cynicle i know but it seems thats gonna be the reality, if and when we are able to travel,,but realy hope it doesnt come to this, we all know it will!!" Only need face masks in doors according to the experts, so on the beach 6 feet apart is ok. | |||
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"So IF flights get going, if airports can run to capacity,with transfers, if hotels are running propperly with full staff and food, liyng buy the pool with face masks, sitting next to some one, on the beach sun bathing with masks, with limited bars and restaraunts if any, so at all times keeping social distancing and face masks on at all times when out, cynicle i know but it seems thats gonna be the reality, if and when we are able to travel,,but realy hope it doesnt come to this, we all know it will!!" Yes, this wouldn't be a holiday for me, but I hope you all get away, if you want to. I would like to see our friends though, locals and holiday friends | |||
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"So IF flights get going, if airports can run to capacity,with transfers, if hotels are running propperly with full staff and food, liyng buy the pool with face masks, sitting next to some one, on the beach sun bathing with masks, with limited bars and restaraunts if any, so at all times keeping social distancing and face masks on at all times when out, cynicle i know but it seems thats gonna be the reality, if and when we are able to travel,,but realy hope it doesnt come to this, we all know it will!!" Face masks on the beach? That would create some crazy looking tan lines. | |||
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"So IF flights get going, if airports can run to capacity,with transfers, if hotels are running propperly with full staff and food, liyng buy the pool with face masks, sitting next to some one, on the beach sun bathing with masks, with limited bars and restaraunts if any, so at all times keeping social distancing and face masks on at all times when out, cynicle i know but it seems thats gonna be the reality, if and when we are able to travel,,but realy hope it doesnt come to this, we all know it will!! Face masks on the beach? That would create some crazy looking tan lines. " Haha | |||
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"Looks like things are moving quite quickly. Just seen that Comeback Bar is opening again on May 11th." yes I think they are allowed to start opening bars, with some restrictions, good news | |||
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"Aware if the lack of flights, I also wasn't suggesting travelling, as the island is still closed to visitors. Just noting that the islands are starting to open businesses again, light at the end of the tunnel perhaps?" Lets all hope so , need October holiday like never before | |||
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