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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

There's a baby foodbank in North Glasgow. I'm not sure what to say about this as I'm so saddened, but I'm not trying to make any kind of political statement.

Pm me for the link if you feel you can help.

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By *kbull2000Man
over a year ago

Carluke

We contribute to a local food bank at work. Nothing special. The staff do regular football cards, mini lotteries and other fund raising in the breakdowns, etc. The staff welfare community then either purchase and donate what is most in demand or donate the money directly.

But it's not always black and white. There are certainly those in need and rightly deserve any assistance that we can give. But there are also others who consider fags and booze a more appropriate need than feeding their kids.

Its seems alien and almost an undeserving realisation but just something you have to accept or ignore when the majority are in real need.

It's always the weakest like kids who suffer the most.

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By *earded blossomCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"We contribute to a local food bank at work. Nothing special. The staff do regular football cards, mini lotteries and other fund raising in the breakdowns, etc. The staff welfare community then either purchase and donate what is most in demand or donate the money directly.

But it's not always black and white. There are certainly those in need and rightly deserve any assistance that we can give. But there are also others who consider fags and booze a more appropriate need than feeding their kids.

Its seems alien and almost an undeserving realisation but just something you have to accept or ignore when the majority are in real need.

It's always the weakest like kids who suffer the most."

Wee Jonny wearing Nike air Max and a fake Gucci top while his maw smokes 20 a day and moaning she needs to use a food bank is usually the script

John

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By *kbull2000Man
over a year ago

Carluke

Easy to focus on those who abuse the systems. But I had a fb who was is a primary school teacher. She described how most kids would get hyper approaching holidays but then there were those few who would get quiet and were obviously troubled.

Kids who wouldn't be fed because they can't get their free school meals, who were ignored by those who should care and love them or kicked outside to fend for themselves.

Kids still wearing nappies at 5yrs old, not being fed since their last school meal yesterday and the classroom assistants being used to take kids away to wash and change them into clean underwear. Life is a bastard to some.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From what I know here, abusers don’t get anything. Clients have to be referred, vetted, budget assessments made and then they get a parcel. It’s very difficult to get through the door in the first place and those that do are in desperate need. We try to make connections with local shops and farmers so that the fresh produce food banks can’t supply doesn’t go to waste. That the country has come to this so quickly is a scandal.

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By *e gentle 100Woman
over a year ago

Bathgate

I have a family member that's a classroom assistant at high school and she says it's terrible to see certain kids in how they are being brought up and one young lass at 13 yrs old is sexually active and gets pick on and other kids who's parents can't control them and sometimes the parents are just as bad as they put their fags, booze, gambling, drugs and their other needs before their kids and some of the kids were being brought up in care and had the attitude of why the f**k should I listen at school as they didn't see a future for themselves, my family member used to take in toiletries etc and try and help them as best she could, she said it was heart breaking to see what was happening and for the ones in class that do want to listen when u have others deliberately causing havoc in class.

When I had my daughter every penny went on bills, house keeping and car and even if I got Christmas or birthday money that got spent on my daughter too as I always put her first.

What is the world going to be like in another 10-20 yrs if that's what the world is like now xx

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By *andS_GlasgowCouple
over a year ago

Giffnock

And more often than not "Sky TV, iPhone for the kids"


"Wee Jonny wearing Nike air Max and a fake Gucci top while his maw smokes 20 a day and moaning she needs to use a food bank is usually the script

John "

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By *indfkdWoman
over a year ago

glasgow

There is a boxing club close to me that every school holiday welcomes kids from the area to a club open from mon-fri 11am to 2pm and gives them lunch all out of his own pocket its lovely to see people helping out with under privileged and neglected children

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By *earded blossomCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

You know if a child is entitled to free school meals they can still get them during the school holidays?

John

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You know if a child is entitled to free school meals they can still get them during the school holidays?

John "

But from where ? Not every local authority has places willing or able to accommodate this, worst thing is older teenage kids are given less in their budget than younger kids for food and often need more not because they are growing but to help

Then study etc I know lots of kids their parents are quick to spend money on the wrong things my kids have food in their belly before the sly or broadband is paid oooops that’s right I cancelled sky and broadband cause the kids wouldn’t go to bed or bring down their dirty washing

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By *earded blossomCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"You know if a child is entitled to free school meals they can still get them during the school holidays?

John

But from where ? Not every local authority has places willing or able to accommodate this, worst thing is older teenage kids are given less in their budget than younger kids for food and often need more not because they are growing but to help

Then study etc I know lots of kids their parents are quick to spend money on the wrong things my kids have food in their belly before the sly or broadband is paid oooops that’s right I cancelled sky and broadband cause the kids wouldn’t go to bed or bring down their dirty washing "

9 outta 10 times it's the school but ask local authorities as they'll have proper lists

John

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know of a woman who has 2 young children and uses a foodbank but also gets her botox done every now and again

I can see where her priorities lie

Absolutely shocking in this day and age

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We always put something into the foodbank box when we go shopping, while we are not rolling in money we understand the need to do it

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

Food banks should be outlawed, and if you think it's a controversial view, just think about who is actually in the main stocking the food banks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Food banks should be outlawed, and if you think it's a controversial view, just think about who is actually in the main stocking the food banks."

Please explain why they should be outlawed?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Food banks should be outlawed, and if you think it's a controversial view, just think about who is actually in the main stocking the food banks."

Ridiculous statement

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By *e gentle 100Woman
over a year ago

Bathgate


"There is a boxing club close to me that every school holiday welcomes kids from the area to a club open from mon-fri 11am to 2pm and gives them lunch all out of his own pocket its lovely to see people helping out with under privileged and neglected children "

That's certainly a good good club and an excellent kind gentleman for looking after the kids xx

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By *e gentle 100Woman
over a year ago

Bathgate


"I know of a woman who has 2 young children and uses a foodbank but also gets her botox done every now and again

I can see where her priorities lie

Absolutely shocking in this day and age "

That certainly is shocking, she should always put her kids first but then some people are just to selfish. Xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Food banks should be outlawed, and if you think it's a controversial view, just think about who is actually in the main stocking the food banks.

Please explain why they should be outlawed? "

I'm waiting tae....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Food banks should be outlawed, and if you think it's a controversial view, just think about who is actually in the main stocking the food banks."
ye can't be serious surely

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By *irlintheRedRed dressWoman
over a year ago

Over the rainbow


"Food banks should be outlawed, and if you think it's a controversial view, just think about who is actually in the main stocking the food banks.

Ridiculous statement "

Agree totally ridiculous but a great pointer for filtering out the idiots.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Food banks should be outlawed, and if you think it's a controversial view, just think about who is actually in the main stocking the food banks.

Ridiculous statement

Agree totally ridiculous but a great pointer for filtering out the idiots. "

Forums are great for that aren't they

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)


"Food banks should be outlawed, and if you think it's a controversial view, just think about who is actually in the main stocking the food banks.

Ridiculous statement

Agree totally ridiculous but a great pointer for filtering out the idiots. "

I think you'll find I'm far from being an idiot

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By *earded blossomCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

"

Also most places running a food bank do so only to be eligible for other grants that help to cut costs elsewhere, no other reason not because the community needs a food bank but because they are getting a cut of tax payers money for other projects

John

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

Also most places running a food bank do so only to be eligible for other grants that help to cut costs elsewhere, no other reason not because the community needs a food bank but because they are getting a cut of tax payers money for other projects

John "

I work with a foodbank in my area, my daughter works with one in her area. Please let us know what these grants are? That would be incredibly helpful to a lot of people.

Thanks.

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By *earded blossomCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

Also most places running a food bank do so only to be eligible for other grants that help to cut costs elsewhere, no other reason not because the community needs a food bank but because they are getting a cut of tax payers money for other projects

John

I work with a foodbank in my area, my daughter works with one in her area. Please let us know what these grants are? That would be incredibly helpful to a lot of people.

Thanks. "

It's available to the people who's building food banks are in, covers the costs of hall hire, facilities used etc

John

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

Also most places running a food bank do so only to be eligible for other grants that help to cut costs elsewhere, no other reason not because the community needs a food bank but because they are getting a cut of tax payers money for other projects

John

I work with a foodbank in my area, my daughter works with one in her area. Please let us know what these grants are? That would be incredibly helpful to a lot of people.

Thanks.

It's available to the people who's building food banks are in, covers the costs of hall hire, facilities used etc

John "

Very true, but it just covers the costs for facilitating the foodbank.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Food banks should be outlawed, and if you think it's a controversial view, just think about who is actually in the main stocking the food banks.

Ridiculous statement

Agree totally ridiculous but a great pointer for filtering out the idiots. "

Funny as feck ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

"

Ah.... the socialists war cry..... the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor...

Let's tax the rich to sort the poor.

It's a proven fact that you cannot tax the poor out of poverty. It's literally the most ridiculous and dangerous way to do it.

That way has failed every single time. Every time. No positive results. Anywhere. Ever.

Socialism has never, and will never work.

You cannot give to someone who will not or cannot work. You just give them the tools.

Give the man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give him a fishing rod..... you know the rest.

Give someone something for nothing for long enough, they will then no longer be in poverty. Then they must work to sustain their status.

But they've never done or don't have the skills.

Guess what happens?

Back into poverty they go.

But that's the rich peoples fault isn't it?

Capiche?

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

Ah.... the socialists war cry..... the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor...

Let's tax the rich to sort the poor.

It's a proven fact that you cannot tax the poor out of poverty. It's literally the most ridiculous and dangerous way to do it.

That way has failed every single time. Every time. No positive results. Anywhere. Ever.

Socialism has never, and will never work.

You cannot give to someone who will not or cannot work. You just give them the tools.

Give the man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give him a fishing rod..... you know the rest.

Give someone something for nothing for long enough, they will then no longer be in poverty. Then they must work to sustain their status.

But they've never done or don't have the skills.

Guess what happens?

Back into poverty they go.

But that's the rich peoples fault isn't it?

Capiche? "

If your argument was a ship about to be rolled down the gang way, it would sink on hitting the water.

Adios

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

Ah.... the socialists war cry..... the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor...

Let's tax the rich to sort the poor.

It's a proven fact that you cannot tax the poor out of poverty. It's literally the most ridiculous and dangerous way to do it.

That way has failed every single time. Every time. No positive results. Anywhere. Ever.

Socialism has never, and will never work.

You cannot give to someone who will not or cannot work. You just give them the tools.

Give the man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give him a fishing rod..... you know the rest.

Give someone something for nothing for long enough, they will then no longer be in poverty. Then they must work to sustain their status.

But they've never done or don't have the skills.

Guess what happens?

Back into poverty they go.

But that's the rich peoples fault isn't it?

Capiche?

If your argument was a ship about to be rolled down the gang way, it would sink on hitting the water.

Adios "

Again, the socialists reply...

i.e. no actual answer.

Have a great weekend living in cloud cuckoo land where Corbyn is God in the land of plenty

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

Ah.... the socialists war cry..... the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor...

Let's tax the rich to sort the poor.

It's a proven fact that you cannot tax the poor out of poverty. It's literally the most ridiculous and dangerous way to do it.

That way has failed every single time. Every time. No positive results. Anywhere. Ever.

Socialism has never, and will never work.

You cannot give to someone who will not or cannot work. You just give them the tools.

Give the man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give him a fishing rod..... you know the rest.

Give someone something for nothing for long enough, they will then no longer be in poverty. Then they must work to sustain their status.

But they've never done or don't have the skills.

Guess what happens?

Back into poverty they go.

But that's the rich peoples fault isn't it?

Capiche?

If your argument was a ship about to be rolled down the gang way, it would sink on hitting the water.

Adios

Again, the socialists reply...

i.e. no actual answer.

Have a great weekend living in cloud cuckoo land where Corbyn is God in the land of plenty"

Sir

For there to be an answer there must be a question, what you have scribed though is a series of quotes, fables and semi biblical statements.

Have a look in your bank account, if you are a millionaire then you will never agree with my argument, however if you are not then you are at best misguided, I would not though be so rude as to insult your intelligence.

In my cuckoo world though, there are no homeless, the NHS is funded and food backs are historical

Does that not seem better than your real world?

Have an adequate weekend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

Ah.... the socialists war cry..... the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor...

Let's tax the rich to sort the poor.

It's a proven fact that you cannot tax the poor out of poverty. It's literally the most ridiculous and dangerous way to do it.

That way has failed every single time. Every time. No positive results. Anywhere. Ever.

Socialism has never, and will never work.

You cannot give to someone who will not or cannot work. You just give them the tools.

Give the man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give him a fishing rod..... you know the rest.

Give someone something for nothing for long enough, they will then no longer be in poverty. Then they must work to sustain their status.

But they've never done or don't have the skills.

Guess what happens?

Back into poverty they go.

But that's the rich peoples fault isn't it?

Capiche?

If your argument was a ship about to be rolled down the gang way, it would sink on hitting the water.

Adios

Again, the socialists reply...

i.e. no actual answer.

Have a great weekend living in cloud cuckoo land where Corbyn is God in the land of plenty

Sir

For there to be an answer there must be a question, what you have scribed though is a series of quotes, fables and semi biblical statements.

Have a look in your bank account, if you are a millionaire then you will never agree with my argument, however if you are not then you are at best misguided, I would not though be so rude as to insult your intelligence.

In my cuckoo world though, there are no homeless, the NHS is funded and food backs are historical

Does that not seem better than your real world?

Have an adequate weekend "

1 out of 3 wishes isn't too bad. The NHS is funded. By the good old tax payer.

You will never get rid of homelessness. Unfortunate as that may seem. Having recently seen an ex army officers documentary where he lived on the streets to get an idea of why people are there, more often than not, those sleeping on the streets actively choose to and refuse housing. Sad but true.

Food banks are a sad indictment of where we are currently, I agree. But why are they there?

Is it because for years under a labour government, it became more economically viable to remain out of work, therefore creating a scourge of people willing to do nothing and get paid for it?

Now the big bad Tories come in, cut benefits of the lazy, trying to get them back to work. But they've only known doing nothing and being funded for it. Granted, there have been some savage mistakes made, especially involving the disabled.

However, the fact remains.

Taxing those working, to pay for those refusing to work, cannot continue.

Please note I'm not including those who can't work. Those are the people we must protect in our society.

And trust me, I am no millionaire. I grew up in a benefits family with an idle father who refused to work. I was a dinner ticket kid.

I made sure I would always work, earn and pay my own way thru life.

He is still to this day and benefits bum. Along with my siblings.

And I don't blame my siblings. They had a horrendous role model.

And those benefits bums were created by a labour government who made it easier, financially, not morally, to stay on benefits than work for a living.

Your description of the rich and the taxmans description are poles apart. I fall into the rich category apparently.

Millionaires are not the problem.

People unwilling to work and earn are the problem.

And for those, I have no sympathy.

My sympathies lie with the unable to work and the rich.

The unable need help without doubt.

And the rich take the flak for things out of their control.

And eventually the rich will get sick of it.

And when they do.... watch the economic downturn then.

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

Sir

I also fall into the rich bracket but not the millionaire.

Certain types of people will always require encouragement to work, however I'm glad you conceded that the current DWP policy on payment structures is wrong and unfair.

However by not paying these people and the creation on feedback, good old HMRC had saved a fortune and given tax breaks to the powerfully rich and influential.

The poor are paying for the tax breaks of thre millinnnares...we live in a society where TAX havens as they are referred to are legal..basically a way to keep your sterling as sterling but pay little tax and the poor are subject to constant media harassment and derogatory framing, I give you the now defunct Jeremy Kyke, benefit st programmes of this ilk...feeding the minds of the voting class that these are the true enemies within...they are not sir, the enemies within are the media moguls the pension scheme landlords and the world capitalists who would have this country as a cheap labour workforce designed to supply goods to our Eurooean partners.

Look beyond the media bias sir and see the truth.

Trickle down economy is a flashood, greatest quality of life stats show Scandinavian left to centre ground parties being the most pleasant place to live and expand.

We are sir basically living Victorian times, in a high tech world.

Ps there is nothing Gig about the Gig economy it is basically cheap Labour that maximises profits and minimises risk.

Have a more than adequate day

And apologise for mu spelling

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By *eyFife2020Man
over a year ago

St. Andrews

Despite political arguments - fact is that there is poverty and actual children in a so called first world country who suffer from mal nutrition (either eating unhealthy due to overdoing carbohydrates as they are cheaper than fresh food or lack of food altogether) - maybe we should reflect on our own spending habits (rich or poor) and do we really need to overindulge in media suggested "Christmas" food orgies or can we not tone down and support a little the ones less fortunate - this wont resolve the overall crisis but little by little maybe moving in the right direction?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

Ah.... the socialists war cry..... the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor...

Let's tax the rich to sort the poor.

It's a proven fact that you cannot tax the poor out of poverty. It's literally the most ridiculous and dangerous way to do it.

That way has failed every single time. Every time. No positive results. Anywhere. Ever.

Socialism has never, and will never work.

You cannot give to someone who will not or cannot work. You just give them the tools.

Give the man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give him a fishing rod..... you know the rest.

Give someone something for nothing for long enough, they will then no longer be in poverty. Then they must work to sustain their status.

But they've never done or don't have the skills.

Guess what happens?

Back into poverty they go.

But that's the rich peoples fault isn't it?

Capiche?

If your argument was a ship about to be rolled down the gang way, it would sink on hitting the water.

Adios

Again, the socialists reply...

i.e. no actual answer.

Have a great weekend living in cloud cuckoo land where Corbyn is God in the land of plenty

Sir

For there to be an answer there must be a question, what you have scribed though is a series of quotes, fables and semi biblical statements.

Have a look in your bank account, if you are a millionaire then you will never agree with my argument, however if you are not then you are at best misguided, I would not though be so rude as to insult your intelligence.

In my cuckoo world though, there are no homeless, the NHS is funded and food backs are historical

Does that not seem better than your real world?

Have an adequate weekend

1 out of 3 wishes isn't too bad. The NHS is funded. By the good old tax payer.

You will never get rid of homelessness. Unfortunate as that may seem. Having recently seen an ex army officers documentary where he lived on the streets to get an idea of why people are there, more often than not, those sleeping on the streets actively choose to and refuse housing. Sad but true.

Food banks are a sad indictment of where we are currently, I agree. But why are they there?

Is it because for years under a labour government, it became more economically viable to remain out of work, therefore creating a scourge of people willing to do nothing and get paid for it?

Now the big bad Tories come in, cut benefits of the lazy, trying to get them back to work. But they've only known doing nothing and being funded for it. Granted, there have been some savage mistakes made, especially involving the disabled.

However, the fact remains.

Taxing those working, to pay for those refusing to work, cannot continue.

Please note I'm not including those who can't work. Those are the people we must protect in our society.

And trust me, I am no millionaire. I grew up in a benefits family with an idle father who refused to work. I was a dinner ticket kid.

I made sure I would always work, earn and pay my own way thru life.

He is still to this day and benefits bum. Along with my siblings.

And I don't blame my siblings. They had a horrendous role model.

And those benefits bums were created by a labour government who made it easier, financially, not morally, to stay on benefits than work for a living.

Your description of the rich and the taxmans description are poles apart. I fall into the rich category apparently.

Millionaires are not the problem.

People unwilling to work and earn are the problem.

And for those, I have no sympathy.

My sympathies lie with the unable to work and the rich.

The unable need help without doubt.

And the rich take the flak for things out of their control.

And eventually the rich will get sick of it.

And when they do.... watch the economic downturn then."
spoken like a true Tory as long as I'm alright screw the rest.

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By *eyFife2020Man
over a year ago

St. Andrews


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

Ah.... the socialists war cry..... the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor...

Let's tax the rich to sort the poor.

It's a proven fact that you cannot tax the poor out of poverty. It's literally the most ridiculous and dangerous way to do it.

That way has failed every single time. Every time. No positive results. Anywhere. Ever.

Socialism has never, and will never work.

You cannot give to someone who will not or cannot work. You just give them the tools.

Give the man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give him a fishing rod..... you know the rest.

Give someone something for nothing for long enough, they will then no longer be in poverty. Then they must work to sustain their status.

But they've never done or don't have the skills.

Guess what happens?

Back into poverty they go.

But that's the rich peoples fault isn't it?

Capiche?

If your argument was a ship about to be rolled down the gang way, it would sink on hitting the water.

Adios

Again, the socialists reply...

i.e. no actual answer.

Have a great weekend living in cloud cuckoo land where Corbyn is God in the land of plenty

Sir

For there to be an answer there must be a question, what you have scribed though is a series of quotes, fables and semi biblical statements.

Have a look in your bank account, if you are a millionaire then you will never agree with my argument, however if you are not then you are at best misguided, I would not though be so rude as to insult your intelligence.

In my cuckoo world though, there are no homeless, the NHS is funded and food backs are historical

Does that not seem better than your real world?

Have an adequate weekend

1 out of 3 wishes isn't too bad. The NHS is funded. By the good old tax payer.

You will never get rid of homelessness. Unfortunate as that may seem. Having recently seen an ex army officers documentary where he lived on the streets to get an idea of why people are there, more often than not, those sleeping on the streets actively choose to and refuse housing. Sad but true.

Food banks are a sad indictment of where we are currently, I agree. But why are they there?

Is it because for years under a labour government, it became more economically viable to remain out of work, therefore creating a scourge of people willing to do nothing and get paid for it?

Now the big bad Tories come in, cut benefits of the lazy, trying to get them back to work. But they've only known doing nothing and being funded for it. Granted, there have been some savage mistakes made, especially involving the disabled.

However, the fact remains.

Taxing those working, to pay for those refusing to work, cannot continue.

Please note I'm not including those who can't work. Those are the people we must protect in our society.

And trust me, I am no millionaire. I grew up in a benefits family with an idle father who refused to work. I was a dinner ticket kid.

I made sure I would always work, earn and pay my own way thru life.

He is still to this day and benefits bum. Along with my siblings.

And I don't blame my siblings. They had a horrendous role model.

And those benefits bums were created by a labour government who made it easier, financially, not morally, to stay on benefits than work for a living.

Your description of the rich and the taxmans description are poles apart. I fall into the rich category apparently.

Millionaires are not the problem.

People unwilling to work and earn are the problem.

And for those, I have no sympathy.

My sympathies lie with the unable to work and the rich.

The unable need help without doubt.

And the rich take the flak for things out of their control.

And eventually the rich will get sick of it.

And when they do.... watch the economic downturn then."

I can only imagine above is a joke and to provoke (for what reason ever?) the fab community? I honestly wish you sanity for Christmas and that no one here physically screws you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

Ah.... the socialists war cry..... the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor...

Let's tax the rich to sort the poor.

It's a proven fact that you cannot tax the poor out of poverty. It's literally the most ridiculous and dangerous way to do it.

That way has failed every single time. Every time. No positive results. Anywhere. Ever.

Socialism has never, and will never work.

You cannot give to someone who will not or cannot work. You just give them the tools.

Give the man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give him a fishing rod..... you know the rest.

Give someone something for nothing for long enough, they will then no longer be in poverty. Then they must work to sustain their status.

But they've never done or don't have the skills.

Guess what happens?

Back into poverty they go.

But that's the rich peoples fault isn't it?

Capiche?

If your argument was a ship about to be rolled down the gang way, it would sink on hitting the water.

Adios

Again, the socialists reply...

i.e. no actual answer.

Have a great weekend living in cloud cuckoo land where Corbyn is God in the land of plenty

Sir

For there to be an answer there must be a question, what you have scribed though is a series of quotes, fables and semi biblical statements.

Have a look in your bank account, if you are a millionaire then you will never agree with my argument, however if you are not then you are at best misguided, I would not though be so rude as to insult your intelligence.

In my cuckoo world though, there are no homeless, the NHS is funded and food backs are historical

Does that not seem better than your real world?

Have an adequate weekend

1 out of 3 wishes isn't too bad. The NHS is funded. By the good old tax payer.

You will never get rid of homelessness. Unfortunate as that may seem. Having recently seen an ex army officers documentary where he lived on the streets to get an idea of why people are there, more often than not, those sleeping on the streets actively choose to and refuse housing. Sad but true.

Food banks are a sad indictment of where we are currently, I agree. But why are they there?

Is it because for years under a labour government, it became more economically viable to remain out of work, therefore creating a scourge of people willing to do nothing and get paid for it?

Now the big bad Tories come in, cut benefits of the lazy, trying to get them back to work. But they've only known doing nothing and being funded for it. Granted, there have been some savage mistakes made, especially involving the disabled.

However, the fact remains.

Taxing those working, to pay for those refusing to work, cannot continue.

Please note I'm not including those who can't work. Those are the people we must protect in our society.

And trust me, I am no millionaire. I grew up in a benefits family with an idle father who refused to work. I was a dinner ticket kid.

I made sure I would always work, earn and pay my own way thru life.

He is still to this day and benefits bum. Along with my siblings.

And I don't blame my siblings. They had a horrendous role model.

And those benefits bums were created by a labour government who made it easier, financially, not morally, to stay on benefits than work for a living.

Your description of the rich and the taxmans description are poles apart. I fall into the rich category apparently.

Millionaires are not the problem.

People unwilling to work and earn are the problem.

And for those, I have no sympathy.

My sympathies lie with the unable to work and the rich.

The unable need help without doubt.

And the rich take the flak for things out of their control.

And eventually the rich will get sick of it.

And when they do.... watch the economic downturn then.spoken like a true Tory as long as I'm alright screw the rest. "

Incorrect.

If you bothered reading it properly, you'll see that those deserving of help should always get it, and I do give to these people and charities etc.

Those unwilling... genuinely couldn't care less.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

Ah.... the socialists war cry..... the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor...

Let's tax the rich to sort the poor.

It's a proven fact that you cannot tax the poor out of poverty. It's literally the most ridiculous and dangerous way to do it.

That way has failed every single time. Every time. No positive results. Anywhere. Ever.

Socialism has never, and will never work.

You cannot give to someone who will not or cannot work. You just give them the tools.

Give the man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give him a fishing rod..... you know the rest.

Give someone something for nothing for long enough, they will then no longer be in poverty. Then they must work to sustain their status.

But they've never done or don't have the skills.

Guess what happens?

Back into poverty they go.

But that's the rich peoples fault isn't it?

Capiche?

If your argument was a ship about to be rolled down the gang way, it would sink on hitting the water.

Adios

Again, the socialists reply...

i.e. no actual answer.

Have a great weekend living in cloud cuckoo land where Corbyn is God in the land of plenty

Sir

For there to be an answer there must be a question, what you have scribed though is a series of quotes, fables and semi biblical statements.

Have a look in your bank account, if you are a millionaire then you will never agree with my argument, however if you are not then you are at best misguided, I would not though be so rude as to insult your intelligence.

In my cuckoo world though, there are no homeless, the NHS is funded and food backs are historical

Does that not seem better than your real world?

Have an adequate weekend

1 out of 3 wishes isn't too bad. The NHS is funded. By the good old tax payer.

You will never get rid of homelessness. Unfortunate as that may seem. Having recently seen an ex army officers documentary where he lived on the streets to get an idea of why people are there, more often than not, those sleeping on the streets actively choose to and refuse housing. Sad but true.

Food banks are a sad indictment of where we are currently, I agree. But why are they there?

Is it because for years under a labour government, it became more economically viable to remain out of work, therefore creating a scourge of people willing to do nothing and get paid for it?

Now the big bad Tories come in, cut benefits of the lazy, trying to get them back to work. But they've only known doing nothing and being funded for it. Granted, there have been some savage mistakes made, especially involving the disabled.

However, the fact remains.

Taxing those working, to pay for those refusing to work, cannot continue.

Please note I'm not including those who can't work. Those are the people we must protect in our society.

And trust me, I am no millionaire. I grew up in a benefits family with an idle father who refused to work. I was a dinner ticket kid.

I made sure I would always work, earn and pay my own way thru life.

He is still to this day and benefits bum. Along with my siblings.

And I don't blame my siblings. They had a horrendous role model.

And those benefits bums were created by a labour government who made it easier, financially, not morally, to stay on benefits than work for a living.

Your description of the rich and the taxmans description are poles apart. I fall into the rich category apparently.

Millionaires are not the problem.

People unwilling to work and earn are the problem.

And for those, I have no sympathy.

My sympathies lie with the unable to work and the rich.

The unable need help without doubt.

And the rich take the flak for things out of their control.

And eventually the rich will get sick of it.

And when they do.... watch the economic downturn then.

I can only imagine above is a joke and to provoke (for what reason ever?) the fab community? I honestly wish you sanity for Christmas and that no one here physically screws you."

By your reckoning that I'm trying provoke the fab community, you're saying the fab community are the idle ones I'm referring to?

Have an actual read of my post then come back with a genuine question or retort.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

Ah.... the socialists war cry..... the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor...

Let's tax the rich to sort the poor.

It's a proven fact that you cannot tax the poor out of poverty. It's literally the most ridiculous and dangerous way to do it.

That way has failed every single time. Every time. No positive results. Anywhere. Ever.

Socialism has never, and will never work.

You cannot give to someone who will not or cannot work. You just give them the tools.

Give the man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give him a fishing rod..... you know the rest.

Give someone something for nothing for long enough, they will then no longer be in poverty. Then they must work to sustain their status.

But they've never done or don't have the skills.

Guess what happens?

Back into poverty they go.

But that's the rich peoples fault isn't it?

Capiche?

If your argument was a ship about to be rolled down the gang way, it would sink on hitting the water.

Adios

Again, the socialists reply...

i.e. no actual answer.

Have a great weekend living in cloud cuckoo land where Corbyn is God in the land of plenty

Sir

For there to be an answer there must be a question, what you have scribed though is a series of quotes, fables and semi biblical statements.

Have a look in your bank account, if you are a millionaire then you will never agree with my argument, however if you are not then you are at best misguided, I would not though be so rude as to insult your intelligence.

In my cuckoo world though, there are no homeless, the NHS is funded and food backs are historical

Does that not seem better than your real world?

Have an adequate weekend

1 out of 3 wishes isn't too bad. The NHS is funded. By the good old tax payer.

You will never get rid of homelessness. Unfortunate as that may seem. Having recently seen an ex army officers documentary where he lived on the streets to get an idea of why people are there, more often than not, those sleeping on the streets actively choose to and refuse housing. Sad but true.

Food banks are a sad indictment of where we are currently, I agree. But why are they there?

Is it because for years under a labour government, it became more economically viable to remain out of work, therefore creating a scourge of people willing to do nothing and get paid for it?

Now the big bad Tories come in, cut benefits of the lazy, trying to get them back to work. But they've only known doing nothing and being funded for it. Granted, there have been some savage mistakes made, especially involving the disabled.

However, the fact remains.

Taxing those working, to pay for those refusing to work, cannot continue.

Please note I'm not including those who can't work. Those are the people we must protect in our society.

And trust me, I am no millionaire. I grew up in a benefits family with an idle father who refused to work. I was a dinner ticket kid.

I made sure I would always work, earn and pay my own way thru life.

He is still to this day and benefits bum. Along with my siblings.

And I don't blame my siblings. They had a horrendous role model.

And those benefits bums were created by a labour government who made it easier, financially, not morally, to stay on benefits than work for a living.

Your description of the rich and the taxmans description are poles apart. I fall into the rich category apparently.

Millionaires are not the problem.

People unwilling to work and earn are the problem.

And for those, I have no sympathy.

My sympathies lie with the unable to work and the rich.

The unable need help without doubt.

And the rich take the flak for things out of their control.

And eventually the rich will get sick of it.

And when they do.... watch the economic downturn then.spoken like a true Tory as long as I'm alright screw the rest. "

That is so untrue and a harsh judgement to make.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really don't know enough about politics but it seems to me the "rich" (by that I mean those who employ) can do something that the poor cannot. They could perhaps pay a decent working wage. People like to spend their hard earned dosh. This would be of benefit to the economy not only for business but the extra tax levied. Give people something to be proud of by feeling valued and you lift them. In my eyes this is different from blaming the rich or saying they should pay more taxes, or blaming benefits scroungers. For me there is no difference between the rich man who fiddles his expense account/taxes or the poor one on benefits who screws the system! Money cannot buy everything but to quote the old saying, I'd rather be a sick rich man than sick poor man. Here's hoping the world is moving through the chaos it's in to a better world for all. A lack of moral compass in general is the problem and I for one am fed up with politicians arguing over who did what, when and how. It's time problems were addressed and not petty self aggrandizment and party power struggles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can we know just talk about..Foodsex ?

Strawberry yoghurt Ladies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

Ah.... the socialists war cry..... the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor...

Let's tax the rich to sort the poor.

It's a proven fact that you cannot tax the poor out of poverty. It's literally the most ridiculous and dangerous way to do it.

That way has failed every single time. Every time. No positive results. Anywhere. Ever.

Socialism has never, and will never work.

You cannot give to someone who will not or cannot work. You just give them the tools.

Give the man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give him a fishing rod..... you know the rest.

Give someone something for nothing for long enough, they will then no longer be in poverty. Then they must work to sustain their status.

But they've never done or don't have the skills.

Guess what happens?

Back into poverty they go.

But that's the rich peoples fault isn't it?

Capiche?

If your argument was a ship about to be rolled down the gang way, it would sink on hitting the water.

Adios

Again, the socialists reply...

i.e. no actual answer.

Have a great weekend living in cloud cuckoo land where Corbyn is God in the land of plenty

Sir

For there to be an answer there must be a question, what you have scribed though is a series of quotes, fables and semi biblical statements.

Have a look in your bank account, if you are a millionaire then you will never agree with my argument, however if you are not then you are at best misguided, I would not though be so rude as to insult your intelligence.

In my cuckoo world though, there are no homeless, the NHS is funded and food backs are historical

Does that not seem better than your real world?

Have an adequate weekend

1 out of 3 wishes isn't too bad. The NHS is funded. By the good old tax payer.

You will never get rid of homelessness. Unfortunate as that may seem. Having recently seen an ex army officers documentary where he lived on the streets to get an idea of why people are there, more often than not, those sleeping on the streets actively choose to and refuse housing. Sad but true.

Food banks are a sad indictment of where we are currently, I agree. But why are they there?

Is it because for years under a labour government, it became more economically viable to remain out of work, therefore creating a scourge of people willing to do nothing and get paid for it?

Now the big bad Tories come in, cut benefits of the lazy, trying to get them back to work. But they've only known doing nothing and being funded for it. Granted, there have been some savage mistakes made, especially involving the disabled.

However, the fact remains.

Taxing those working, to pay for those refusing to work, cannot continue.

Please note I'm not including those who can't work. Those are the people we must protect in our society.

And trust me, I am no millionaire. I grew up in a benefits family with an idle father who refused to work. I was a dinner ticket kid.

I made sure I would always work, earn and pay my own way thru life.

He is still to this day and benefits bum. Along with my siblings.

And I don't blame my siblings. They had a horrendous role model.

And those benefits bums were created by a labour government who made it easier, financially, not morally, to stay on benefits than work for a living.

Your description of the rich and the taxmans description are poles apart. I fall into the rich category apparently.

Millionaires are not the problem.

People unwilling to work and earn are the problem.

And for those, I have no sympathy.

My sympathies lie with the unable to work and the rich.

The unable need help without doubt.

And the rich take the flak for things out of their control.

And eventually the rich will get sick of it.

And when they do.... watch the economic downturn then.spoken like a true Tory as long as I'm alright screw the rest.

Incorrect.

If you bothered reading it properly, you'll see that those deserving of help should always get it, and I do give to these people and charities etc.

Those unwilling... genuinely couldn't care less."
oh I stand corrected then..as long as you give to charities that's ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

Ah.... the socialists war cry..... the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor...

Let's tax the rich to sort the poor.

It's a proven fact that you cannot tax the poor out of poverty. It's literally the most ridiculous and dangerous way to do it.

That way has failed every single time. Every time. No positive results. Anywhere. Ever.

Socialism has never, and will never work.

You cannot give to someone who will not or cannot work. You just give them the tools.

Give the man a fish and he will eat for a day. Give him a fishing rod..... you know the rest.

Give someone something for nothing for long enough, they will then no longer be in poverty. Then they must work to sustain their status.

But they've never done or don't have the skills.

Guess what happens?

Back into poverty they go.

But that's the rich peoples fault isn't it?

Capiche?

If your argument was a ship about to be rolled down the gang way, it would sink on hitting the water.

Adios

Again, the socialists reply...

i.e. no actual answer.

Have a great weekend living in cloud cuckoo land where Corbyn is God in the land of plenty

Sir

For there to be an answer there must be a question, what you have scribed though is a series of quotes, fables and semi biblical statements.

Have a look in your bank account, if you are a millionaire then you will never agree with my argument, however if you are not then you are at best misguided, I would not though be so rude as to insult your intelligence.

In my cuckoo world though, there are no homeless, the NHS is funded and food backs are historical

Does that not seem better than your real world?

Have an adequate weekend

1 out of 3 wishes isn't too bad. The NHS is funded. By the good old tax payer.

You will never get rid of homelessness. Unfortunate as that may seem. Having recently seen an ex army officers documentary where he lived on the streets to get an idea of why people are there, more often than not, those sleeping on the streets actively choose to and refuse housing. Sad but true.

Food banks are a sad indictment of where we are currently, I agree. But why are they there?

Is it because for years under a labour government, it became more economically viable to remain out of work, therefore creating a scourge of people willing to do nothing and get paid for it?

Now the big bad Tories come in, cut benefits of the lazy, trying to get them back to work. But they've only known doing nothing and being funded for it. Granted, there have been some savage mistakes made, especially involving the disabled.

However, the fact remains.

Taxing those working, to pay for those refusing to work, cannot continue.

Please note I'm not including those who can't work. Those are the people we must protect in our society.

And trust me, I am no millionaire. I grew up in a benefits family with an idle father who refused to work. I was a dinner ticket kid.

I made sure I would always work, earn and pay my own way thru life.

He is still to this day and benefits bum. Along with my siblings.

And I don't blame my siblings. They had a horrendous role model.

And those benefits bums were created by a labour government who made it easier, financially, not morally, to stay on benefits than work for a living.

Your description of the rich and the taxmans description are poles apart. I fall into the rich category apparently.

Millionaires are not the problem.

People unwilling to work and earn are the problem.

And for those, I have no sympathy.

My sympathies lie with the unable to work and the rich.

The unable need help without doubt.

And the rich take the flak for things out of their control.

And eventually the rich will get sick of it.

And when they do.... watch the economic downturn then.spoken like a true Tory as long as I'm alright screw the rest.

Incorrect.

If you bothered reading it properly, you'll see that those deserving of help should always get it, and I do give to these people and charities etc.

Those unwilling... genuinely couldn't care less.oh I stand corrected then..as long as you give to charities that's ok "

So helping out the poor and unfortunate isn't good enough?

Please tell me what I should do?

Sincere question

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

Well didnt that escalate quite quickly.

I'm out as there is too much to read and no picture

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By *earded blossomCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Well didnt that escalate quite quickly.

I'm out as there is too much to read and no picture "

We can chat about this further over the buffet I've laid on for later

John

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)


"Well didnt that escalate quite quickly.

I'm out as there is too much to read and no picture

We can chat about this further over the buffet I've laid on for later

John "

Does said buffet have pictures? Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Get a doggy bag for Doggy

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By *awty MaxWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Well didnt that escalate quite quickly.

I'm out as there is too much to read and no picture

We can chat about this further over the buffet I've laid on for later

John "

I'll join you then! Am on a diet... That convo will cut my appetite

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By *earded blossomCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Get a doggy bag for Doggy "

If doggy wanted to come along she wouldn't need a doggy bag

John

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well didnt that escalate quite quickly.

I'm out as there is too much to read and no picture

We can chat about this further over the buffet I've laid on for later

John "

Here John...

Any chance of sending a pic of some Salmon Triangles...just the sandwiches

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Get a doggy bag for Doggy

If doggy wanted to come along she wouldn't need a doggy bag

John "

....me telt.....

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By *outhglasgowMan
over a year ago

glasgow


"We contribute to a local food bank at work. Nothing special. The staff do regular football cards, mini lotteries and other fund raising in the breakdowns, etc. The staff welfare community then either purchase and donate what is most in demand or donate the money directly.

But it's not always black and white. There are certainly those in need and rightly deserve any assistance that we can give. But there are also others who consider fags and booze a more appropriate need than feeding their kids.

Its seems alien and almost an undeserving realisation but just something you have to accept or ignore when the majority are in real need.

It's always the weakest like kids who suffer the most.

Wee Jonny wearing Nike air Max and a fake Gucci top while his maw smokes 20 a day and moaning she needs to use a food bank is usually the script

John "

What an attitude john, your miles off aswell btw

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Essentially the poor are supporting the poor and the government or richest in society has moved all responsibility for feeding of the poor to the poor.

The people with not a lot are supporting the people with nothing and the millionaires and billionaires of this country who never have to face the poor or live in their societies can keep their money as the taxation does not need to rise to help support the least well off in society.

What we have here is Cameron's Big Society project in in purest capitalists form. A shrewd move by Mr Cameron on keeping the rich, rich and the poor poor.

Increase the living wage the unemployed wage, and disability allowance by increasing taxation on the rich and luxury goods and you end food banks in months. Hence why I say outlaw food banks then no Government of the future can adopt the same policy.

Capiche

"

This is essentially true the lower classes supporting each other while the supermarkets still get their coffers and the government don’t have to increase the living wage anymore or do anything to address the issue

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By *earded blossomCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"We contribute to a local food bank at work. Nothing special. The staff do regular football cards, mini lotteries and other fund raising in the breakdowns, etc. The staff welfare community then either purchase and donate what is most in demand or donate the money directly.

But it's not always black and white. There are certainly those in need and rightly deserve any assistance that we can give. But there are also others who consider fags and booze a more appropriate need than feeding their kids.

Its seems alien and almost an undeserving realisation but just something you have to accept or ignore when the majority are in real need.

It's always the weakest like kids who suffer the most.

Wee Jonny wearing Nike air Max and a fake Gucci top while his maw smokes 20 a day and moaning she needs to use a food bank is usually the script

John

What an attitude john, your miles off aswell btw"

Go fish elsewhere, I'm not miles off, I've grown up amongst many a scheme and see many many things. I could count on one hand how many people I've seen living in actual poverty and not self loathing poverty

John

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By *eoeclipseWoman
over a year ago

glasgow


"We contribute to a local food bank at work. Nothing special. The staff do regular football cards, mini lotteries and other fund raising in the breakdowns, etc. The staff welfare community then either purchase and donate what is most in demand or donate the money directly.

But it's not always black and white. There are certainly those in need and rightly deserve any assistance that we can give. But there are also others who consider fags and booze a more appropriate need than feeding their kids.

Its seems alien and almost an undeserving realisation but just something you have to accept or ignore when the majority are in real need.

It's always the weakest like kids who suffer the most.

Wee Jonny wearing Nike air Max and a fake Gucci top while his maw smokes 20 a day and moaning she needs to use a food bank is usually the script

John

What an attitude john, your miles off aswell btw

Go fish elsewhere, I'm not miles off, I've grown up amongst many a scheme and see many many things. I could count on one hand how many people I've seen living in actual poverty and not self loathing poverty

John "

Who is to say that the Nike's weren't out a charity shop or gifted by women's aid or other charity?

IPhone could have been an Xmas present from someone or again is actually 2nd hand. My boy has an iPhone but I didn't buy it, someone got an upgrade & gave him it. I have a Prada bag that was given to me.

Budgeting loans....credit union.

You cannot say all folk on benefits are scroungers because they have good gear on & schools are putting homework & projects online these days so although social media is not a must, access to the internet to do homework these days is becoming more common.

Yes there are scroungers & I know a few myself but that's not everyone.

You cannot judge by what you see. Many people wear a mask.

Both of these scenarios occur.

Its the same with homeless choosing to stay on the streets....have you ever been to some of the shelters that get provided? & if you have pets, well that's you truly screwed unless you give up your furry child but you can keep your human one with you. No address, no benefits.

Plus mental illness or invisible disabilities are there too.

Don't judge the book by its cover & stop dehumanizing people to be less than yourself or section them into us against them categories, all it creates is hate & doesn't solve anything

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley


"Easy to focus on those who abuse the systems. But I had a fb who was is a primary school teacher. She described how most kids would get hyper approaching holidays but then there were those few who would get quiet and were obviously troubled.

Kids who wouldn't be fed because they can't get their free school meals, who were ignored by those who should care and love them or kicked outside to fend for themselves.

Kids still wearing nappies at 5yrs old, not being fed since their last school meal yesterday and the classroom assistants being used to take kids away to wash and change them into clean underwear. Life is a bastard to some."

I did a course as a classroom assistant and the school I was in the staff would make breakfast for the kids they knew wouldn’t have eaten anything. They’d give them clean uniforms. Kids coming to school in the winter with sandals and no jackets. It’s sad to see.

At work we do the Coats for Kids collection to help kids in Glasgow. We also collect for food banks and donate to the local homeless charity where they can get food and clothes.

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By *eekendsCouple
over a year ago

Darlington

I always say to people who reply like this , There is lots of vacancies at DWP you can throw your job in an go and relax and wait for the money to roll in, do not worry about using food banks or anything like that, the kids get top trainers and you get free food and beer and you never even have to leave home it is the life of riley, there are 130.000 people (they are dead so don't expect quick reply)

who will let you know that austerity works there is only one downside you only live for about 12 months

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

The issue isn’t always what people earn and how they spend their money. It’s about the welfare system, HMRC and tax credits and the people who work there regardless of which party is in Government.

15 years ago when my husband left I ended up with no Tax credits for 4 months. I wasn’t working at the time as I’d been signed off with stress and depression and had an operation. I fell in to rent arrears, had barely enough to live on and relied upon my Mum. For several years my Tax Credits would be paid by Giro and HMRC couldn’t comprehend that Scotland had different bank holidays and I couldn’t cash it when they sent it through causing further delays in getting money. Until you’ve been there you can’t really comment. Food banks weren’t around at that time but if they had I’d have been forced to use them.

I’ve had Christmas with barely anything to give my kids. Some of us do know what it’s like to struggle financially.

So if any of you can spare a little something the next time you shop, please drop it in the food bank collection box. Most supermarkets will add to the total collected. It may not seem much to you but for some it shows that someone cares enough about them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s not just food there are things you just don’t consider like period poverty kids not able to get to school for lack of sanitary products. Something needs to change

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