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By *it169 OP   Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

I am looking to date a Trans women for a genuine relationship, any advice?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Aye..

Get aff a Swinging site.

Find a Dating site instead.

Good luck OP

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By *it169 OP   Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

I appreciate that advise however I'll do both thanks???

Any advice in which dating sights to use would be very helpful

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By *isaAndNicoleTransTV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port

Why do you specifically want a trans woman instead of a real woman? Just interested

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe he wants best of both

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline


"Why do you specifically want a trans woman instead of a real woman? Just interested "

I get why you might ask why the OP is specifically seeking a transwoman - concerns around fetishisation, objectification, etc. There are clear personal safety reasons someone might be concerned about that, not to mention that people might not want to be dated on the basis of satisfying a fetish.

However, to follow that up with a suggestion that transwomen aren’t “real” women is far from ideal. Both in the the eyes of the equality act and common decency, transwomen *are* real women.

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By *iercedyvonneTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Why do you specifically want a trans woman instead of a real woman? Just interested "

be careful - most transwomen would argue they are "real" women. While I know what you mean, many are militant - I've felt the wrath of this myself!

I think the OP wants a more convincing trans* partner, although should be more open as there are plenty of TVs who are utterly stunning and more feminine than many genetic women.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do you specifically want a trans woman instead of a real woman? Just interested

be careful - most transwomen would argue they are "real" women. While I know what you mean, many are militant - I've felt the wrath of this myself!

I think the OP wants a more convincing trans* partner, although should be more open as there are plenty of TVs who are utterly stunning and more feminine than many genetic women."

But the OP states he is straight.

No judgement or opinion but just throwing it out there for consideration.

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By *iercedyvonneTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow


"

But the OP states he is straight.

No judgement or opinion but just throwing it out there for consideration. "

He's Fab straight. - If she looks like a woman then that's good enough, regardless of what is in her knickers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

But the OP states he is straight.

No judgement or opinion but just throwing it out there for consideration.

He's Fab straight. - If she looks like a woman then that's good enough, regardless of what is in her knickers."

I will bow to your superior wisdom in this regard.

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline


"

But the OP states he is straight.

No judgement or opinion but just throwing it out there for consideration.

He's Fab straight. - If she looks like a woman then that's good enough, regardless of what is in her knickers."

Come on. Fab straight is a phenomenon here, but completely unrelated to trans people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

But the OP states he is straight.

No judgement or opinion but just throwing it out there for consideration.

He's Fab straight. - If she looks like a woman then that's good enough, regardless of what is in her knickers.

Come on. Fab straight is a phenomenon here, but completely unrelated to trans people. "

How is it "completely" unrelated?

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline

As previously mentioned, trans women are women, trans men are men. If you’re a straight guy in a relationship with a trans woman then that doesn’t mean you’re any less straight. If you’re a gay guy in a relationship with a trans guy, it doesn’t mean you’re any less gay.

On the other hand, the “straight” guys constantly messaging asking if i want a blow job are probably not as straight as they would have others believe. That’s “fab straight”.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry and il prob get shit for this but if a guy has still got a penis..no matter what he/she identify as the guy having sex with her/him isnt straight.

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline


"Sorry and il prob get shit for this but if a guy has still got a penis..no matter what he/she identify as the guy having sex with her/him isnt straight.

"

Clearly not sorry or you wouldn’t post it.

People are, of course, perfectly entitled to hold whatever opinion they want.

It is fair to point out, though, that particular opinion sits in the same camp as “I’ve nothing against p**fters as long as they don’t flaunt it in my face” and “oy oy, backs against the wall”.

Society has moved on, as has the law, thankfully. While it’s perfectly ok to hold offensive views, it’s equally ok to challenge them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My opinion.

Everyones entitled to 1

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline


"My opinion.

Everyones entitled to 1

"

Which is pretty much what I just wrote.

Opinions, unfortunately are like a***holes though. Some of them stink.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry and il prob get shit for this but if a guy has still got a penis..no matter what he/she identify as the guy having sex with her/him isnt straight.

"

This!! x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sorry and il prob get shit for this but if a guy has still got a penis..no matter what he/she identify as the guy having sex with her/him isnt straight.

Clearly not sorry or you wouldn’t post it.

People are, of course, perfectly entitled to hold whatever opinion they want.

It is fair to point out, though, that particular opinion sits in the same camp as “I’ve nothing against p**fters as long as they don’t flaunt it in my face” and “oy oy, backs against the wall”.

Society has moved on, as has the law, thankfully. While it’s perfectly ok to hold offensive views, it’s equally ok to challenge them.

"

So any opinion different to the current zeitgeist is offensive. Hmmm. It truly is a "brave new world"

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline


"So any opinion different to the current zeitgeist is offensive. Hmmm. It truly is a "brave new world" "

No.

It’s about basic decency. Recognising and accepting transgender people in the gender they present doesn’t impact you or your life. Consent is king here. You sleep with who you want to sleep with. You engage with the genital configurations which float your boat. No-one is suggesting otherwise.

Transgender people are usually the victims of violence and hate speech, so any tropes that they are out to ‘trap’ unsuspecting men into playing with a penis are as ludicrous as they are untrue.

When you openly and publicly declare that someone “isn’t a real woman”, or someone who sleeps with them “is clearly gay”, all you’re doing is oppressing and victimising an already oppressed and victimised group.

This isn’t about being contrarian, it isn’t about protecting your rights (those aren’t being challenged). It’s about providing a society which is safe for all. Attempts to be vocal a la “I’m sorry, but I’m going to voice my unpopular opinion” isn’t two fingers up to the liberal elite, it’s two stones thrown at vulnerable group. It’s no better than racism, homophobia, or any other hate action.

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By *tew008Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"So any opinion different to the current zeitgeist is offensive. Hmmm. It truly is a "brave new world"

No.

It’s about basic decency. Recognising and accepting transgender people in the gender they present doesn’t impact you or your life. Consent is king here. You sleep with who you want to sleep with. You engage with the genital configurations which float your boat. No-one is suggesting otherwise.

Transgender people are usually the victims of violence and hate speech, so any tropes that they are out to ‘trap’ unsuspecting men into playing with a penis are as ludicrous as they are untrue.

When you openly and publicly declare that someone “isn’t a real woman”, or someone who sleeps with them “is clearly gay”, all you’re doing is oppressing and victimising an already oppressed and victimised group.

This isn’t about being contrarian, it isn’t about protecting your rights (those aren’t being challenged). It’s about providing a society which is safe for all. Attempts to be vocal a la “I’m sorry, but I’m going to voice my unpopular opinion” isn’t two fingers up to the liberal elite, it’s two stones thrown at vulnerable group. It’s no better than racism, homophobia, or any other hate action. "

You don’t need to label folk really.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"Why do you specifically want a trans woman instead of a real woman? Just interested

I get why you might ask why the OP is specifically seeking a transwoman - concerns around fetishisation, objectification, etc. There are clear personal safety reasons someone might be concerned about that, not to mention that people might not want to be dated on the basis of satisfying a fetish.

However, to follow that up with a suggestion that transwomen aren’t “real” women is far from ideal. Both in the the eyes of the equality act and common decency, transwomen *are* real women. "
not to get on your goat but that a matter of perception you may believe they are a "real woman" while others simply don't agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So any opinion different to the current zeitgeist is offensive. Hmmm. It truly is a "brave new world"

No.

It’s about basic decency. Recognising and accepting transgender people in the gender they present doesn’t impact you or your life. Consent is king here. You sleep with who you want to sleep with. You engage with the genital configurations which float your boat. No-one is suggesting otherwise.

Transgender people are usually the victims of violence and hate speech, so any tropes that they are out to ‘trap’ unsuspecting men into playing with a penis are as ludicrous as they are untrue.

When you openly and publicly declare that someone “isn’t a real woman”, or someone who sleeps with them “is clearly gay”, all you’re doing is oppressing and victimising an already oppressed and victimised group.

This isn’t about being contrarian, it isn’t about protecting your rights (those aren’t being challenged). It’s about providing a society which is safe for all. Attempts to be vocal a la “I’m sorry, but I’m going to voice my unpopular opinion” isn’t two fingers up to the liberal elite, it’s two stones thrown at vulnerable group. It’s no better than racism, homophobia, or any other hate action. "

I agree with some of what you say. But just because an opinion is deemed popular or unpopular doesn't make it right or wrong. Also, disagreement is healthy, an opportunity for learning and i would argue necessary in society. As long as the disagreement or difference in opinion doesn't lead to people treating people abhorently or mistreating them.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"So any opinion different to the current zeitgeist is offensive. Hmmm. It truly is a "brave new world"

No.

It’s about basic decency. Recognising and accepting transgender people in the gender they present doesn’t impact you or your life. Consent is king here. You sleep with who you want to sleep with. You engage with the genital configurations which float your boat. No-one is suggesting otherwise.

Transgender people are usually the victims of violence and hate speech, so any tropes that they are out to ‘trap’ unsuspecting men into playing with a penis are as ludicrous as they are untrue.

When you openly and publicly declare that someone “isn’t a real woman”, or someone who sleeps with them “is clearly gay”, all you’re doing is oppressing and victimising an already oppressed and victimised group.

This isn’t about being contrarian, it isn’t about protecting your rights (those aren’t being challenged). It’s about providing a society which is safe for all. Attempts to be vocal a la “I’m sorry, but I’m going to voice my unpopular opinion” isn’t two fingers up to the liberal elite, it’s two stones thrown at vulnerable group. It’s no better than racism, homophobia, or any other hate action. "
its views like this that get folks goats up of course it impacts those who don't believe in your opinion claiming they are from a throwback society and morons for not conforming with your view.all this bullshit of infinite genders is the work of a bad lad trip imo while folk have the right to identify as they please you cannot and should not be able to force that view on everyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do you specifically want a trans woman instead of a real woman? Just interested

I get why you might ask why the OP is specifically seeking a transwoman - concerns around fetishisation, objectification, etc. There are clear personal safety reasons someone might be concerned about that, not to mention that people might not want to be dated on the basis of satisfying a fetish.

However, to follow that up with a suggestion that transwomen aren’t “real” women is far from ideal. Both in the the eyes of the equality act and common decency, transwomen *are* real women. "

You're entitled to that opinion..

I disagree..

Im entitled too mine

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By *isaAndNicoleTransTV/TS
over a year ago

Southport / Ellesmere Port


"Why do you specifically want a trans woman instead of a real woman? Just interested

I get why you might ask why the OP is specifically seeking a transwoman - concerns around fetishisation, objectification, etc. There are clear personal safety reasons someone might be concerned about that, not to mention that people might not want to be dated on the basis of satisfying a fetish.

However, to follow that up with a suggestion that transwomen aren’t “real” women is far from ideal. Both in the the eyes of the equality act and common decency, transwomen *are* real women. "

I haven't suggested trans women aren't "real women", trust me I have a lot more experience in this area than you do. The question was raised in the context of the OPs original question, and similar posts in the past. Since the OP hadn't been arsed to follow up his own thread then I can't pre-judge but my experience of men that ask this question is that either:

A. they think all trans women look like shemale porn stars

B. They can't get a genetic woman and somehow think that trans women are easier lays

Both are far from the truth as I guess you know. OP also didn't specify whether he wants pre or post op.

For trans girls like myself we have complicated and complex lives. What we definitely don't want to be is a desperate inexperienced man's fantasy. But maybe the OP can enlighten us?

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By *vcarolTV/TS
over a year ago

kilmarnockish

To the op.

Probably start with the dating sites, there are a few that have some trans on there.

The clubs, go speak to people, don’t be frightened, we’re human!

Ignore the slightly off topic comments, be an individual, be yourself, ignore your critics. Just remember, we’re a strange breed, slightly unhinged at times, insane.... goes with the heels, oh, one last thing...... we cost a fortune to run!

Have fun! X

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