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"Ok call me a complete grump but its getting to the point of madness trying to actually do the following: 1) chat with a couple/single about swinging to create some contacts. 2) Mirror Adonis and have the perfect penis or body for even a sniff at a meet request. 3) Be a single male aka dog shite in the site and get any level of acceptance that we are here for the same reason as couples and females. Here is my pitch to all swingers out there. Im a guy who wants to be involved in the lifestyle - meet like minded others - meet for some form of beverage and possibly some fun. Couples and females are my preference whats so wrong in this? or are all guys excluded from swinging now cos it certainly looks and seems that way these days." Difficult mate eh? Had more success in pass on other free sites so feel your pain ! Would say as for couples , majority times it’s the guy on it and not lady as I just checked your profile noted bi curious so maybe try FAB other site and maybe never know you may get lucky other then that as apparently lots of ladies on this are bombarded with emails and just delete emails without looking at your emails and small proportion just get their fun teasing guys which is very sad . Better going to pub , supermarket etc more chance of clicking then being a single older guy on this . Plus at least you know chemistry wise if gonna click rather than wondering who you emailed is ever gonna reply . Good luck mate | |||
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"Not what we are looking for but will give you some pointers, maybe some better pics, actually take time to fill out the profile etc so people actually have an idea about you
John "Agree, your profile is how you sell yourself. 1 picture and very little bio, wont do that. Im sure your camera has a timer so why the need for a mirror. ? As for pics. You got to take about 40 to 60 pics and you will maybe get 2 pics you like out them. No effort so no meets, thats the harsh reality of Fab. | |||
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"Not what we are looking for but will give you some pointers, maybe some better pics, actually take time to fill out the profile etc so people actually have an idea about you
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"It's gonna take time A whole lot of precious time It's gonna take patience and time, (But it's gonna take money A whole lot of spending money It's gonna take plenty of money To do it right, child) " | |||
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"I smell entitlement and it's a big turn off! Let me tell you how I see this going.. This site ends up being the landing page for horny men after they have seen a like while watching porn. Was it the hot young women or horny milfs in your area want to meet you that drew you in? Or was it watching an orgy and thinking you are a stud? Regardless you're now here and horny. Initially you're excited by limitless possibilities. Then reality starts to kick in a touch and you realise it's not instashag. At this point you might change your approach and start aiming for a social meet (after all who could resist your charm etc) however even that proves difficult. Frustration kicks in and suddenly your cock takes over and you adopt the there must be someone up for a shag approach (this is where I'm usually emailed and looked upon as some sort of free escort. I mean I've got my tits out I must be up for it... That doesn't work either so you jump on the forums and plead pussy poverty. Some will perhaps feel your pain, others will give helpful tips, others will just roll their eyes "another one" Either way the offers aren't flooding in and making any real effort seems pointless because A, your hardon and ego is deflating and B it's easier on other sites or down the pub. You log out or delete the profile thinking we are all stuck up anyway. In 3 or 6 months time the circle of fab begins again... Am I correct in any of this? The people who do well on here (and there are many) aren't god like beings or images of perfection. They just show respect, character, patience and resilience. " ^^^^^THIS^^^^^^ One of the best summaries of how a significant portion of some men (and a woman that I see on my updates feed) behave on here. It’s almost a behavioural science it’s so predictable | |||
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"I smell entitlement and it's a big turn off! Let me tell you how I see this going.. This site ends up being the landing page for horny men after they have seen a like while watching porn. Was it the hot young women or horny milfs in your area want to meet you that drew you in? Or was it watching an orgy and thinking you are a stud? Regardless you're now here and horny. Initially you're excited by limitless possibilities. Then reality starts to kick in a touch and you realise it's not instashag. At this point you might change your approach and start aiming for a social meet (after all who could resist your charm etc) however even that proves difficult. Frustration kicks in and suddenly your cock takes over and you adopt the there must be someone up for a shag approach (this is where I'm usually emailed and looked upon as some sort of free escort. I mean I've got my tits out I must be up for it... That doesn't work either so you jump on the forums and plead pussy poverty. Some will perhaps feel your pain, others will give helpful tips, others will just roll their eyes "another one" Either way the offers aren't flooding in and making any real effort seems pointless because A, your hardon and ego is deflating and B it's easier on other sites or down the pub. You log out or delete the profile thinking we are all stuck up anyway. In 3 or 6 months time the circle of fab begins again... Am I correct in any of this? The people who do well on here (and there are many) aren't god like beings or images of perfection. They just show respect, character, patience and resilience. ^^^^^THIS^^^^^^ One of the best summaries of how a significant portion of some men (and a woman that I see on my updates feed) behave on here. It’s almost a behavioural science it’s so predictable " Feck YES!!! Well done Sinders!!!   | |||
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"I smell entitlement and it's a big turn off! Let me tell you how I see this going.. This site ends up being the landing page for horny men after they have seen a like while watching porn. Was it the hot young women or horny milfs in your area want to meet you that drew you in? Or was it watching an orgy and thinking you are a stud? Regardless you're now here and horny. Initially you're excited by limitless possibilities. Then reality starts to kick in a touch and you realise it's not instashag. At this point you might change your approach and start aiming for a social meet (after all who could resist your charm etc) however even that proves difficult. Frustration kicks in and suddenly your cock takes over and you adopt the there must be someone up for a shag approach (this is where I'm usually emailed and looked upon as some sort of free escort. I mean I've got my tits out I must be up for it... That doesn't work either so you jump on the forums and plead pussy poverty. Some will perhaps feel your pain, others will give helpful tips, others will just roll their eyes "another one" Either way the offers aren't flooding in and making any real effort seems pointless because A, your hardon and ego is deflating and B it's easier on other sites or down the pub. You log out or delete the profile thinking we are all stuck up anyway. In 3 or 6 months time the circle of fab begins again... Am I correct in any of this? The people who do well on here (and there are many) aren't god like beings or images of perfection. They just show respect, character, patience and resilience. ^^^^^THIS^^^^^^ One of the best summaries of how a significant portion of some men (and a woman that I see on my updates feed) behave on here. It’s almost a behavioural science it’s so predictable Feck YES!!! Well done Sinders!!! "And please note folks, Sinderella said PEOPLE that show respect, patience and resilience, not just guys. As someone said one before on one of these threads, succinctly if not as eloquently “Just don’t be a dick” | |||
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"I smell entitlement and it's a big turn off! Let me tell you how I see this going.. This site ends up being the landing page for horny men after they have seen a like while watching porn. Was it the hot young women or horny milfs in your area want to meet you that drew you in? Or was it watching an orgy and thinking you are a stud? Regardless you're now here and horny. Initially you're excited by limitless possibilities. Then reality starts to kick in a touch and you realise it's not instashag. At this point you might change your approach and start aiming for a social meet (after all who could resist your charm etc) however even that proves difficult. Frustration kicks in and suddenly your cock takes over and you adopt the there must be someone up for a shag approach (this is where I'm usually emailed and looked upon as some sort of free escort. I mean I've got my tits out I must be up for it... That doesn't work either so you jump on the forums and plead pussy poverty. Some will perhaps feel your pain, others will give helpful tips, others will just roll their eyes "another one" Either way the offers aren't flooding in and making any real effort seems pointless because A, your hardon and ego is deflating and B it's easier on other sites or down the pub. You log out or delete the profile thinking we are all stuck up anyway. In 3 or 6 months time the circle of fab begins again... Am I correct in any of this? The people who do well on here (and there are many) aren't god like beings or images of perfection. They just show respect, character, patience and resilience. " Brilliant. We need to add this to the FAQ's. | |||
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"I smell entitlement and it's a big turn off! Let me tell you how I see this going.. This site ends up being the landing page for horny men after they have seen a like while watching porn. Was it the hot young women or horny milfs in your area want to meet you that drew you in? Or was it watching an orgy and thinking you are a stud? Regardless you're now here and horny. Initially you're excited by limitless possibilities. Then reality starts to kick in a touch and you realise it's not instashag. At this point you might change your approach and start aiming for a social meet (after all who could resist your charm etc) however even that proves difficult. Frustration kicks in and suddenly your cock takes over and you adopt the there must be someone up for a shag approach (this is where I'm usually emailed and looked upon as some sort of free escort. I mean I've got my tits out I must be up for it... That doesn't work either so you jump on the forums and plead pussy poverty. Some will perhaps feel your pain, others will give helpful tips, others will just roll their eyes "another one" Either way the offers aren't flooding in and making any real effort seems pointless because A, your hardon and ego is deflating and B it's easier on other sites or down the pub. You log out or delete the profile thinking we are all stuck up anyway. In 3 or 6 months time the circle of fab begins again... Am I correct in any of this? The people who do well on here (and there are many) aren't god like beings or images of perfection. They just show respect, character, patience and resilience. ^^^^^THIS^^^^^^ One of the best summaries of how a significant portion of some men (and a woman that I see on my updates feed) behave on here. It’s almost a behavioural science it’s so predictable Feck YES!!! Well done Sinders!!!
And please note folks, Sinderella said PEOPLE that show respect, patience and resilience, not just guys. As someone said one before on one of these threads, succinctly if not as eloquently “Just don’t be a dick” "In the interests of fairness I've written the female version too! | |||
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"I smell entitlement and it's a big turn off! Let me tell you how I see this going.. This site ends up being the landing page for horny men after they have seen a like while watching porn. Was it the hot young women or horny milfs in your area want to meet you that drew you in? Or was it watching an orgy and thinking you are a stud? Regardless you're now here and horny. Initially you're excited by limitless possibilities. Then reality starts to kick in a touch and you realise it's not instashag. At this point you might change your approach and start aiming for a social meet (after all who could resist your charm etc) however even that proves difficult. Frustration kicks in and suddenly your cock takes over and you adopt the there must be someone up for a shag approach (this is where I'm usually emailed and looked upon as some sort of free escort. I mean I've got my tits out I must be up for it... That doesn't work either so you jump on the forums and plead pussy poverty. Some will perhaps feel your pain, others will give helpful tips, others will just roll their eyes "another one" Either way the offers aren't flooding in and making any real effort seems pointless because A, your hardon and ego is deflating and B it's easier on other sites or down the pub. You log out or delete the profile thinking we are all stuck up anyway. In 3 or 6 months time the circle of fab begins again... Am I correct in any of this? The people who do well on here (and there are many) aren't god like beings or images of perfection. They just show respect, character, patience and resilience. " Now this is how to say something without making it sound like a dig or sound insulting. Well done sinders summing up how many are left very disappointed with the Fab experience. | |||
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"Do for example if you get a nice hi email from my profile apart from the dodgy pic which I will fix when possible what is missing from my profile it's got a reasonably accurate fun message? Or is it just all single guys are seen as crap still?" You won't be everyone's cup of tea | |||
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"Ok call me a complete grump but its getting to the point of madness trying to actually do the following: 1) chat with a couple/single about swinging to create some contacts. 2) Mirror Adonis and have the perfect penis or body for even a sniff at a meet request. 3) Be a single male aka dog shite in the site and get any level of acceptance that we are here for the same reason as couples and females. Here is my pitch to all swingers out there. Im a guy who wants to be involved in the lifestyle - meet like minded others - meet for some form of beverage and possibly some fun. Couples and females are my preference whats so wrong in this? or are all guys excluded from swinging now cos it certainly looks and seems that way these days." Firstly, it's not personal and really not worth getting worked up about. If they're not replying it's because you either aren't what they're looking for, have not sent a message that appeals to them or have nothing on your profile to attract them. Have you gone to a social or a club? Meeting people in person will definitely give you an advantage over the many hundreds of other single guys in your area. If you are sticking to just messaging people ensure that your profile is the best it can possibly be and you write a decent message that shows you have read their profile and you meet their requirements. There might still be no attraction but that can't be helped, you will have at least done everything to the best of your ability. | |||
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"I smell entitlement and it's a big turn off! Let me tell you how I see this going.. This site ends up being the landing page for horny men after they have seen a like while watching porn. Was it the hot young women or horny milfs in your area want to meet you that drew you in? Or was it watching an orgy and thinking you are a stud? Regardless you're now here and horny. Initially you're excited by limitless possibilities. Then reality starts to kick in a touch and you realise it's not instashag. At this point you might change your approach and start aiming for a social meet (after all who could resist your charm etc) however even that proves difficult. Frustration kicks in and suddenly your cock takes over and you adopt the there must be someone up for a shag approach (this is where I'm usually emailed and looked upon as some sort of free escort. I mean I've got my tits out I must be up for it... That doesn't work either so you jump on the forums and plead pussy poverty. Some will perhaps feel your pain, others will give helpful tips, others will just roll their eyes "another one" Either way the offers aren't flooding in and making any real effort seems pointless because A, your hardon and ego is deflating and B it's easier on other sites or down the pub. You log out or delete the profile thinking we are all stuck up anyway. In 3 or 6 months time the circle of fab begins again... Am I correct in any of this? The people who do well on here (and there are many) aren't god like beings or images of perfection. They just show respect, character, patience and resilience. Brilliant. We need to add this to the FAQ's." The FAQs they never bloody read? | |||
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"Do for example if you get a nice hi email from my profile apart from the dodgy pic which I will fix when possible what is missing from my profile it's got a reasonably accurate fun message? Or is it just all single guys are seen as crap still?" Does your message just say hi? Because those scream lazy and I ignore them | |||
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"I smell entitlement and it's a big turn off! Let me tell you how I see this going.. This site ends up being the landing page for horny men after they have seen a like while watching porn. Was it the hot young women or horny milfs in your area want to meet you that drew you in? Or was it watching an orgy and thinking you are a stud? Regardless you're now here and horny. Initially you're excited by limitless possibilities. Then reality starts to kick in a touch and you realise it's not instashag. At this point you might change your approach and start aiming for a social meet (after all who could resist your charm etc) however even that proves difficult. Frustration kicks in and suddenly your cock takes over and you adopt the there must be someone up for a shag approach (this is where I'm usually emailed and looked upon as some sort of free escort. I mean I've got my tits out I must be up for it... That doesn't work either so you jump on the forums and plead pussy poverty. Some will perhaps feel your pain, others will give helpful tips, others will just roll their eyes "another one" Either way the offers aren't flooding in and making any real effort seems pointless because A, your hardon and ego is deflating and B it's easier on other sites or down the pub. You log out or delete the profile thinking we are all stuck up anyway. In 3 or 6 months time the circle of fab begins again... Am I correct in any of this? The people who do well on here (and there are many) aren't god like beings or images of perfection. They just show respect, character, patience and resilience. " That response totally sums up what some guys look for and even tho I do agree with it I do think some females do come on here with no intention off ever meeting anybody but love the guys chasing after them as they get a kick out off it and are unable to do it in a night club / pub as those guys wouldn't give them a second look . That's my take on this site as it has got to big for itself . | |||
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"I smell entitlement and it's a big turn off! Let me tell you how I see this going.. This site ends up being the landing page for horny men after they have seen a like while watching porn. Was it the hot young women or horny milfs in your area want to meet you that drew you in? Or was it watching an orgy and thinking you are a stud? Regardless you're now here and horny. Initially you're excited by limitless possibilities. Then reality starts to kick in a touch and you realise it's not instashag. At this point you might change your approach and start aiming for a social meet (after all who could resist your charm etc) however even that proves difficult. Frustration kicks in and suddenly your cock takes over and you adopt the there must be someone up for a shag approach (this is where I'm usually emailed and looked upon as some sort of free escort. I mean I've got my tits out I must be up for it... That doesn't work either so you jump on the forums and plead pussy poverty. Some will perhaps feel your pain, others will give helpful tips, others will just roll their eyes "another one" Either way the offers aren't flooding in and making any real effort seems pointless because A, your hardon and ego is deflating and B it's easier on other sites or down the pub. You log out or delete the profile thinking we are all stuck up anyway. In 3 or 6 months time the circle of fab begins again... Am I correct in any of this? The people who do well on here (and there are many) aren't god like beings or images of perfection. They just show respect, character, patience and resilience. That response totally sums up what some guys look for and even tho I do agree with it I do think some females do come on here with no intention off ever meeting anybody but love the guys chasing after them as they get a kick out off it and are unable to do it in a night club / pub as those guys wouldn't give them a second look . That's my take on this site as it has got to big for itself . "So the women on here are ugly and just here to mess guys around? Give your head a wobble. There may well be some women on here who only want to chat, as is every person's right. It's no one else's business how they use this site. The majority of the profiles you describe are likely fake profiles, sad little men sitting behind a keyboard thinking they're funny, or a bot. It amazes me how many men can't tell the difference between a genuine profile and a fake, usually because all their blood has rushed to their groin  | |||
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"I smell entitlement and it's a big turn off! Let me tell you how I see this going.. This site ends up being the landing page for horny men after they have seen a like while watching porn. Was it the hot young women or horny milfs in your area want to meet you that drew you in? Or was it watching an orgy and thinking you are a stud? Regardless you're now here and horny. Initially you're excited by limitless possibilities. Then reality starts to kick in a touch and you realise it's not instashag. At this point you might change your approach and start aiming for a social meet (after all who could resist your charm etc) however even that proves difficult. Frustration kicks in and suddenly your cock takes over and you adopt the there must be someone up for a shag approach (this is where I'm usually emailed and looked upon as some sort of free escort. I mean I've got my tits out I must be up for it... That doesn't work either so you jump on the forums and plead pussy poverty. Some will perhaps feel your pain, others will give helpful tips, others will just roll their eyes "another one" Either way the offers aren't flooding in and making any real effort seems pointless because A, your hardon and ego is deflating and B it's easier on other sites or down the pub. You log out or delete the profile thinking we are all stuck up anyway. In 3 or 6 months time the circle of fab begins again... Am I correct in any of this? The people who do well on here (and there are many) aren't god like beings or images of perfection. They just show respect, character, patience and resilience. ^^^^^THIS^^^^^^ One of the best summaries of how a significant portion of some men (and a woman that I see on my updates feed) behave on here. It’s almost a behavioural science it’s so predictable Feck YES!!! Well done Sinders!!!
And please note folks, Sinderella said PEOPLE that show respect, patience and resilience, not just guys. As someone said one before on one of these threads, succinctly if not as eloquently “Just don’t be a dick” "Don't be a dick! Now I know Where I've been going wrong. Why didn't you tell me before. | |||
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"I smell entitlement and it's a big turn off! Let me tell you how I see this going.. This site ends up being the landing page for horny men after they have seen a like while watching porn. Was it the hot young women or horny milfs in your area want to meet you that drew you in? Or was it watching an orgy and thinking you are a stud? Regardless you're now here and horny. Initially you're excited by limitless possibilities. Then reality starts to kick in a touch and you realise it's not instashag. At this point you might change your approach and start aiming for a social meet (after all who could resist your charm etc) however even that proves difficult. Frustration kicks in and suddenly your cock takes over and you adopt the there must be someone up for a shag approach (this is where I'm usually emailed and looked upon as some sort of free escort. I mean I've got my tits out I must be up for it... That doesn't work either so you jump on the forums and plead pussy poverty. Some will perhaps feel your pain, others will give helpful tips, others will just roll their eyes "another one" Either way the offers aren't flooding in and making any real effort seems pointless because A, your hardon and ego is deflating and B it's easier on other sites or down the pub. You log out or delete the profile thinking we are all stuck up anyway. In 3 or 6 months time the circle of fab begins again... Am I correct in any of this? The people who do well on here (and there are many) aren't god like beings or images of perfection. They just show respect, character, patience and resilience. That response totally sums up what some guys look for and even tho I do agree with it I do think some females do come on here with no intention off ever meeting anybody but love the guys chasing after them as they get a kick out off it and are unable to do it in a night club / pub as those guys wouldn't give them a second look . That's my take on this site as it has got to big for itself .
So the women on here are ugly and just here to mess guys around? Give your head a wobble.
There may well be some women on here who only want to chat, as is every person's right. It's no one else's business how they use this site.
The majority of the profiles you describe are likely fake profiles, sad little men sitting behind a keyboard thinking they're funny, or a bot. It amazes me how many men can't tell the difference between a genuine profile and a fake, usually because all their blood has rushed to their groin "you can take out off my reply what you like that is your prerogative and you won't get an arguement out off me there but mind it is a female ( yourself ) who is calling woman ugly | |||
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"My personal advice... Never send unsolicited dick picks or have them as your profile picture... .............. Try attending a social or 2... even if to get yourself a few verifications... most people wont go near anyone that doesnt have verifications.... ............. Try going along to a club like cjs or after8... or the new one in dundee.... ............. Dont have a pity party on the forums... If someone isnt interested...or doesnt reply to your messages... Move on.. try again Dont have any expectations and if anything happens it's a pleasant surprise... Spitting dummies wont get you anywhere" very very sound advice put in a very nice way | |||
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"I smell entitlement and it's a big turn off! Let me tell you how I see this going.. This site ends up being the landing page for horny men after they have seen a like while watching porn. Was it the hot young women or horny milfs in your area want to meet you that drew you in? Or was it watching an orgy and thinking you are a stud? Regardless you're now here and horny. Initially you're excited by limitless possibilities. Then reality starts to kick in a touch and you realise it's not instashag. At this point you might change your approach and start aiming for a social meet (after all who could resist your charm etc) however even that proves difficult. Frustration kicks in and suddenly your cock takes over and you adopt the there must be someone up for a shag approach (this is where I'm usually emailed and looked upon as some sort of free escort. I mean I've got my tits out I must be up for it... That doesn't work either so you jump on the forums and plead pussy poverty. Some will perhaps feel your pain, others will give helpful tips, others will just roll their eyes "another one" Either way the offers aren't flooding in and making any real effort seems pointless because A, your hardon and ego is deflating and B it's easier on other sites or down the pub. You log out or delete the profile thinking we are all stuck up anyway. In 3 or 6 months time the circle of fab begins again... Am I correct in any of this? The people who do well on here (and there are many) aren't god like beings or images of perfection. They just show respect, character, patience and resilience. That response totally sums up what some guys look for and even tho I do agree with it I do think some females do come on here with no intention off ever meeting anybody but love the guys chasing after them as they get a kick out off it and are unable to do it in a night club / pub as those guys wouldn't give them a second look . That's my take on this site as it has got to big for itself .
So the women on here are ugly and just here to mess guys around? Give your head a wobble.
There may well be some women on here who only want to chat, as is every person's right. It's no one else's business how they use this site.
The majority of the profiles you describe are likely fake profiles, sad little men sitting behind a keyboard thinking they're funny, or a bot. It amazes me how many men can't tell the difference between a genuine profile and a fake, usually because all their blood has rushed to their groin you can take out off my reply what you like that is your prerogative and you won't get an arguement out off me there but mind it is a female ( yourself ) who is calling woman ugly "‘they get a kick out off it and are unable to do it in a night club / pub as those guys wouldn't give them a second look . ‘ So what does this mean then? Your words. | |||
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"My personal advice... Never send unsolicited dick picks or have them as your profile picture... .............. Try attending a social or 2... even if to get yourself a few verifications... most people wont go near anyone that doesnt have verifications.... ............. Try going along to a club like cjs or after8... or the new one in dundee.... ............. Dont have a pity party on the forums... If someone isnt interested...or doesnt reply to your messages... Move on.. try again Dont have any expectations and if anything happens it's a pleasant surprise... Spitting dummies wont get you anywherevery very sound advice put in a very nice way "Says the one with the dick pick. For a profile.... lmfao  | |||
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"My personal advice... Never send unsolicited dick picks or have them as your profile picture... .............. Try attending a social or 2... even if to get yourself a few verifications... most people wont go near anyone that doesnt have verifications.... ............. Try going along to a club like cjs or after8... or the new one in dundee.... ............. Dont have a pity party on the forums... If someone isnt interested...or doesnt reply to your messages... Move on.. try again Dont have any expectations and if anything happens it's a pleasant surprise... Spitting dummies wont get you anywherevery very sound advice put in a very nice way
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"Geesh folks. Those being positive many thanks and those who have msged me personally with support also thanks I will be messaging back to chat more if you want. But ladies please change the tone.its really quite offensive. Single guys who are on the site for a ons and fail are so easy to spot and ignore. There are females who are exactly the same on here but I've yet to see a guy spit venom as much as you do. Some of us have been around the scene for decades and fab is the modern way to meet but messaging most of you is hardly even enticing when you have such an angst. Again last night 3 in my local updates who I'm sure had more choice ignored the guys and then bitched about time wasters and nobody wanting to fuck em.really... So the topic is what it is. What does it take? It in reality shouldn't be as negative an experience as it is especially with the numbers here these days. Good topic and thanks for proving the point." I get ya..however, your profile still stands out very weak among those others..even if they are timewatsers etc.. Your claim that you have been around the scene does not appear that evident,so unsure if you just think being on the site and asking for a fuck has made you more worthy due to years being here. | |||
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"Geesh folks. Those being positive many thanks and those who have msged me personally with support also thanks I will be messaging back to chat more if you want. But ladies please change the tone.its really quite offensive. Single guys who are on the site for a ons and fail are so easy to spot and ignore. There are females who are exactly the same on here but I've yet to see a guy spit venom as much as you do. Some of us have been around the scene for decades and fab is the modern way to meet but messaging most of you is hardly even enticing when you have such an angst. Again last night 3 in my local updates who I'm sure had more choice ignored the guys and then bitched about time wasters and nobody wanting to fuck em.really... So the topic is what it is. What does it take? It in reality shouldn't be as negative an experience as it is especially with the numbers here these days. Good topic and thanks for proving the point." Couple of things OP... I think most of your replies have pointed out that men AND women can have poor attitudes here but I’d ask you to re read your original post which somewhat contradicts the above one. In particular I quote the following... 1) chat with a couple/single about swinging to create some contacts. 2) Mirror Adonis and have the perfect penis or body for even a sniff at a meet request. 3) Be a single male aka dog shite in the site and get any level of acceptance that we are here for the same reason as couples and females. The above is I think what Sinderella and others referred to as sounding somewhat “entitled”. Personally I’ve never in the 10 years I’ve been here treated a single male like “dog shite” despite some very pushy, arrogant and insistent messages. Men are outnumbered hugely here so it could be said the odds are stacked against them. However in my experience the ones who practice exactly what Sinderella suggested do exceptionally well here. Your three points sound petted and childish I’m afraid. Just my opinion of course and hope you find what you seek. Good luck on site | |||
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"Geesh folks. Those being positive many thanks and those who have msged me personally with support also thanks I will be messaging back to chat more if you want. But ladies please change the tone.its really quite offensive. Single guys who are on the site for a ons and fail are so easy to spot and ignore. There are females who are exactly the same on here but I've yet to see a guy spit venom as much as you do. Some of us have been around the scene for decades and fab is the modern way to meet but messaging most of you is hardly even enticing when you have such an angst. Again last night 3 in my local updates who I'm sure had more choice ignored the guys and then bitched about time wasters and nobody wanting to fuck em.really... So the topic is what it is. What does it take? It in reality shouldn't be as negative an experience as it is especially with the numbers here these days. Good topic and thanks for proving the point. Couple of things OP... I think most of your replies have pointed out that men AND women can have poor attitudes here but I’d ask you to re read your original post which somewhat contradicts the above one. In particular I quote the following... 1) chat with a couple/single about swinging to create some contacts. 2) Mirror Adonis and have the perfect penis or body for even a sniff at a meet request. 3) Be a single male aka dog shite in the site and get any level of acceptance that we are here for the same reason as couples and females. The above is I think what Sinderella and others referred to as sounding somewhat “entitled”. Personally I’ve never in the 10 years I’ve been here treated a single male like “dog shite” despite some very pushy, arrogant and insistent messages. Men are outnumbered hugely here so it could be said the odds are stacked against them. However in my experience the ones who practice exactly what Sinderella suggested do exceptionally well here. Your three points sound petted and childish I’m afraid. Just my opinion of course and hope you find what you seek. Good luck on site "blah blah blah, get your tits out | |||
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"Geesh folks. Those being positive many thanks and those who have msged me personally with support also thanks I will be messaging back to chat more if you want. But ladies please change the tone.its really quite offensive. Single guys who are on the site for a ons and fail are so easy to spot and ignore. There are females who are exactly the same on here but I've yet to see a guy spit venom as much as you do. Some of us have been around the scene for decades and fab is the modern way to meet but messaging most of you is hardly even enticing when you have such an angst. Again last night 3 in my local updates who I'm sure had more choice ignored the guys and then bitched about time wasters and nobody wanting to fuck em.really... So the topic is what it is. What does it take? It in reality shouldn't be as negative an experience as it is especially with the numbers here these days. Good topic and thanks for proving the point. Couple of things OP... I think most of your replies have pointed out that men AND women can have poor attitudes here but I’d ask you to re read your original post which somewhat contradicts the above one. In particular I quote the following... 1) chat with a couple/single about swinging to create some contacts. 2) Mirror Adonis and have the perfect penis or body for even a sniff at a meet request. 3) Be a single male aka dog shite in the site and get any level of acceptance that we are here for the same reason as couples and females. The above is I think what Sinderella and others referred to as sounding somewhat “entitled”. Personally I’ve never in the 10 years I’ve been here treated a single male like “dog shite” despite some very pushy, arrogant and insistent messages. Men are outnumbered hugely here so it could be said the odds are stacked against them. However in my experience the ones who practice exactly what Sinderella suggested do exceptionally well here. Your three points sound petted and childish I’m afraid. Just my opinion of course and hope you find what you seek. Good luck on site
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"Geesh folks. Those being positive many thanks and those who have msged me personally with support also thanks I will be messaging back to chat more if you want. But ladies please change the tone.its really quite offensive. Single guys who are on the site for a ons and fail are so easy to spot and ignore. There are females who are exactly the same on here but I've yet to see a guy spit venom as much as you do. Some of us have been around the scene for decades and fab is the modern way to meet but messaging most of you is hardly even enticing when you have such an angst. Again last night 3 in my local updates who I'm sure had more choice ignored the guys and then bitched about time wasters and nobody wanting to fuck em.really... So the topic is what it is. What does it take? It in reality shouldn't be as negative an experience as it is especially with the numbers here these days. Good topic and thanks for proving the point." OP, as uncomfortable as it is for you to hear, no one is owed a shag just because they’re on a sex site. No effort equals no reward, and if you’re not willing to put in any effort then you’re wasting your time here. Sometimes we need to hear the negative so we can improve. I for one will not fuck someone I am not attracted to. If I get a basic hello from a profile with no profile pic, no other/attractive pics and nothing written, then how am I supposed to find an attraction? Your attitude in this response only goes to highlight that you haven’t listened to any advice you have been given. Some of it is tongue in cheek, but no one is being mean or offensive. If you’re reading it as such, ask yourself why. | |||
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"Ok call me a complete grump but its getting to the point of madness trying to actually do the following: 1) chat with a couple/single about swinging to create some contacts. 2) Mirror Adonis and have the perfect penis or body for even a sniff at a meet request. 3) Be a single male aka dog shite in the site and get any level of acceptance that we are here for the same reason as couples and females. Here is my pitch to all swingers out there. Im a guy who wants to be involved in the lifestyle - meet like minded others - meet for some form of beverage and possibly some fun. Couples and females are my preference whats so wrong in this? or are all guys excluded from swinging now cos it certainly looks and seems that way these days." Boring....... In simple terms. Your profile is well below average on a 95% male driven website!! You are probably in the bottom 30%. In a word. Snowball hells chance of meeting anybody from Fab ever!!!! You would have a better chance meeting someone in the local supermarket over the fish counter than of Fab!! Put the work in. Get the rewards.. Sit on your arse throwing dummies. Go back to the nursery until you can play with the big boys... Mistress Amelia | |||
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"Ok call me a complete grump but its getting to the point of madness trying to actually do the following: 1) chat with a couple/single about swinging to create some contacts. 2) Mirror Adonis and have the perfect penis or body for even a sniff at a meet request. 3) Be a single male aka dog shite in the site and get any level of acceptance that we are here for the same reason as couples and females. Here is my pitch to all swingers out there. Im a guy who wants to be involved in the lifestyle - meet like minded others - meet for some form of beverage and possibly some fun. Couples and females are my preference whats so wrong in this? or are all guys excluded from swinging now cos it certainly looks and seems that way these days. Boring....... In simple terms. Your profile is well below average on a 95% male driven website!! You are probably in the bottom 30%. In a word. Snowball hells chance of meeting anybody from Fab ever!!!! You would have a better chance meeting someone in the local supermarket over the fish counter than of Fab!! Put the work in. Get the rewards.. Sit on your arse throwing dummies. Go back to the nursery until you can play with the big boys... Mistress Amelia " Im intrigued Miss Amelia Could you tell me what percentage you think i am please | |||
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"Still attacking me when your missing the point. This topic has shown how the community treats people. It was posted to clearly highlight how nasty many are also. It's all about visual and lacks what swinging used to be about and maybe the growth on the site loses the community it's purpose when it's just a hook up site now. The many I've met at the swing clubs over the past 4 years comment on how fab is full of nasty folks who are not proper swingers. All I would like to see is people being much friendlier to each other. Build trust and relationships - we used to be suspicious of incomers and it was special to share your partner or even have the chance to talk to others but fab just isn't that nice swinging community any more. I left fab 2 years ago because of this and I guess I forgot how nasty it gets, but rejoining it looked a bit better but over the past month some people honestly don't deserve the trust I know friends give. " So are you saying that people are wrong to seek a physical attraction in their play partner's? | |||
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"Still attacking me when your missing the point. This topic has shown how the community treats people. It was posted to clearly highlight how nasty many are also. It's all about visual and lacks what swinging used to be about and maybe the growth on the site loses the community it's purpose when it's just a hook up site now. The many I've met at the swing clubs over the past 4 years comment on how fab is full of nasty folks who are not proper swingers. All I would like to see is people being much friendlier to each other. Build trust and relationships - we used to be suspicious of incomers and it was special to share your partner or even have the chance to talk to others but fab just isn't that nice swinging community any more. I left fab 2 years ago because of this and I guess I forgot how nasty it gets, but rejoining it looked a bit better but over the past month some people honestly don't deserve the trust I know friends give. So are you saying that people are wrong to seek a physical attraction in their play partner's? " Ffs sinders it's a sex site any hole or poles a goal no glass slippers needed here | |||
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"Still attacking me when your missing the point. This topic has shown how the community treats people. It was posted to clearly highlight how nasty many are also. It's all about visual and lacks what swinging used to be about and maybe the growth on the site loses the community it's purpose when it's just a hook up site now. The many I've met at the swing clubs over the past 4 years comment on how fab is full of nasty folks who are not proper swingers. All I would like to see is people being much friendlier to each other. Build trust and relationships - we used to be suspicious of incomers and it was special to share your partner or even have the chance to talk to others but fab just isn't that nice swinging community any more. I left fab 2 years ago because of this and I guess I forgot how nasty it gets, but rejoining it looked a bit better but over the past month some people honestly don't deserve the trust I know friends give. So are you saying that people are wrong to seek a physical attraction in their play partner's? Ffs sinders it's a sex site any hole or poles a goal no glass slippers needed here "Whoops that's why no prince has returned my shoe! | |||
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"Still attacking me when your missing the point. This topic has shown how the community treats people. It was posted to clearly highlight how nasty many are also. It's all about visual and lacks what swinging used to be about and maybe the growth on the site loses the community it's purpose when it's just a hook up site now. The many I've met at the swing clubs over the past 4 years comment on how fab is full of nasty folks who are not proper swingers. All I would like to see is people being much friendlier to each other. Build trust and relationships - we used to be suspicious of incomers and it was special to share your partner or even have the chance to talk to others but fab just isn't that nice swinging community any more. I left fab 2 years ago because of this and I guess I forgot how nasty it gets, but rejoining it looked a bit better but over the past month some people honestly don't deserve the trust I know friends give. So are you saying that people are wrong to seek a physical attraction in their play partner's? Ffs sinders it's a sex site any hole or poles a goal no glass slippers needed here
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"Still attacking me when your missing the point. This topic has shown how the community treats people. It was posted to clearly highlight how nasty many are also. It's all about visual and lacks what swinging used to be about and maybe the growth on the site loses the community it's purpose when it's just a hook up site now. The many I've met at the swing clubs over the past 4 years comment on how fab is full of nasty folks who are not proper swingers. All I would like to see is people being much friendlier to each other. Build trust and relationships - we used to be suspicious of incomers and it was special to share your partner or even have the chance to talk to others but fab just isn't that nice swinging community any more. I left fab 2 years ago because of this and I guess I forgot how nasty it gets, but rejoining it looked a bit better but over the past month some people honestly don't deserve the trust I know friends give. So are you saying that people are wrong to seek a physical attraction in their play partner's? Ffs sinders it's a sex site any hole or poles a goal no glass slippers needed here
Whoops that's why no prince has returned my shoe!
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"Still attacking me when your missing the point. This topic has shown how the community treats people. It was posted to clearly highlight how nasty many are also. It's all about visual and lacks what swinging used to be about and maybe the growth on the site loses the community it's purpose when it's just a hook up site now. The many I've met at the swing clubs over the past 4 years comment on how fab is full of nasty folks who are not proper swingers. All I would like to see is people being much friendlier to each other. Build trust and relationships - we used to be suspicious of incomers and it was special to share your partner or even have the chance to talk to others but fab just isn't that nice swinging community any more. I left fab 2 years ago because of this and I guess I forgot how nasty it gets, but rejoining it looked a bit better but over the past month some people honestly don't deserve the trust I know friends give. So are you saying that people are wrong to seek a physical attraction in their play partner's? Ffs sinders it's a sex site any hole or poles a goal no glass slippers needed here
Whoops that's why no prince has returned my shoe!
Exactly now get on all fours and pull your knickers to the side so I can ram it in
That's a bit inappropriate "If the person its aimed at is not offended by the comment, why would you worry about it or even find it inappropriate. ? You know and i know that he is just having a laugh ? | |||
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"Still attacking me when your missing the point. This topic has shown how the community treats people. It was posted to clearly highlight how nasty many are also. It's all about visual and lacks what swinging used to be about and maybe the growth on the site loses the community it's purpose when it's just a hook up site now. The many I've met at the swing clubs over the past 4 years comment on how fab is full of nasty folks who are not proper swingers. All I would like to see is people being much friendlier to each other. Build trust and relationships - we used to be suspicious of incomers and it was special to share your partner or even have the chance to talk to others but fab just isn't that nice swinging community any more. I left fab 2 years ago because of this and I guess I forgot how nasty it gets, but rejoining it looked a bit better but over the past month some people honestly don't deserve the trust I know friends give. So are you saying that people are wrong to seek a physical attraction in their play partner's? Ffs sinders it's a sex site any hole or poles a goal no glass slippers needed here
Whoops that's why no prince has returned my shoe!
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"Still attacking me when your missing the point. This topic has shown how the community treats people. It was posted to clearly highlight how nasty many are also. It's all about visual and lacks what swinging used to be about and maybe the growth on the site loses the community it's purpose when it's just a hook up site now. The many I've met at the swing clubs over the past 4 years comment on how fab is full of nasty folks who are not proper swingers. All I would like to see is people being much friendlier to each other. Build trust and relationships - we used to be suspicious of incomers and it was special to share your partner or even have the chance to talk to others but fab just isn't that nice swinging community any more. I left fab 2 years ago because of this and I guess I forgot how nasty it gets, but rejoining it looked a bit better but over the past month some people honestly don't deserve the trust I know friends give. " The only person missing the point is you as you’re still seeing it as an attack and playing the victim. People disagreeing with you is not an attack, stop taking everything so personally. You sound like you have a massive chip on your shoulder, that will be a factor in why no one replies to your messages if you come across that way. You’re bemoaning the fact that there are many people here who are not ‘proper swingers’, in your words. By that definition you are not a swinger, you’re a single guy on a swingers site looking for sex. You state that it’s all about the visual - of course there has to be an initial attraction, otherwise why would you waste each other’s time? I’ve had people message me that I’ve not found attractive, but I’ve enjoyed the banter so we continue friendly conversation, both parties fully aware that’s all it is. I’ve met people that I’ve initially not been sure I’m attracted to, I have never met someone I’m not attracted to on a one to one basis as it’s unfair to give them unrealistic expectations. Yes there are people here who may not be the friendliest, whether in message or in person. That happens in all walks of life, not just on Fab. However, i suspect part of your issue about being friendly is that you send messages which go unread, ignored or deleted. In which case, I refer you to the site FAQs which clearly state that no response should be taken as a not interested, and that it is not rude not to respond. So many people don’t seem to actually read the FAQs, however. If they did I would see less moaning about not getting a reply in the updates! I’ve also been to clubs regularly over the years and have yet to hear anyone say Fab people in particular are unfriendly. If someone has proved themselves unfriendly to you or a friend, simply block and move on. Really no need to let it affect you at all. If you still feel so hard done by, perhaps leaving and looking for what you seek elsewhere rather than being a grump, as you put it, on the forums (read by around 0.1% of site users) would be your best option. | |||
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"Still attacking me when your missing the point. This topic has shown how the community treats people. It was posted to clearly highlight how nasty many are also. It's all about visual and lacks what swinging used to be about and maybe the growth on the site loses the community it's purpose when it's just a hook up site now. The many I've met at the swing clubs over the past 4 years comment on how fab is full of nasty folks who are not proper swingers. All I would like to see is people being much friendlier to each other. Build trust and relationships - we used to be suspicious of incomers and it was special to share your partner or even have the chance to talk to others but fab just isn't that nice swinging community any more. I left fab 2 years ago because of this and I guess I forgot how nasty it gets, but rejoining it looked a bit better but over the past month some people honestly don't deserve the trust I know friends give. So are you saying that people are wrong to seek a physical attraction in their play partner's? Ffs sinders it's a sex site any hole or poles a goal no glass slippers needed here
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"Still attacking me when your missing the point. This topic has shown how the community treats people. It was posted to clearly highlight how nasty many are also. It's all about visual and lacks what swinging used to be about and maybe the growth on the site loses the community it's purpose when it's just a hook up site now. The many I've met at the swing clubs over the past 4 years comment on how fab is full of nasty folks who are not proper swingers. All I would like to see is people being much friendlier to each other. Build trust and relationships - we used to be suspicious of incomers and it was special to share your partner or even have the chance to talk to others but fab just isn't that nice swinging community any more. I left fab 2 years ago because of this and I guess I forgot how nasty it gets, but rejoining it looked a bit better but over the past month some people honestly don't deserve the trust I know friends give. So are you saying that people are wrong to seek a physical attraction in their play partner's? Ffs sinders it's a sex site any hole or poles a goal no glass slippers needed here
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Exactly now get on all fours and pull your knickers to the side so I can ram it in
That's a bit inappropriate
If the person its aimed at is not offended by the comment, why would you worry about it or even find it inappropriate. ? You know and i know that he is just having a laugh ?"Well I don't find it funny And since I find it inappropriate I chose to tell him | |||
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"Still attacking me when your missing the point. This topic has shown how the community treats people. It was posted to clearly highlight how nasty many are also. It's all about visual and lacks what swinging used to be about and maybe the growth on the site loses the community it's purpose when it's just a hook up site now. The many I've met at the swing clubs over the past 4 years comment on how fab is full of nasty folks who are not proper swingers. All I would like to see is people being much friendlier to each other. Build trust and relationships - we used to be suspicious of incomers and it was special to share your partner or even have the chance to talk to others but fab just isn't that nice swinging community any more. I left fab 2 years ago because of this and I guess I forgot how nasty it gets, but rejoining it looked a bit better but over the past month some people honestly don't deserve the trust I know friends give. So are you saying that people are wrong to seek a physical attraction in their play partner's? Ffs sinders it's a sex site any hole or poles a goal no glass slippers needed here
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"Still attacking me when your missing the point. This topic has shown how the community treats people. It was posted to clearly highlight how nasty many are also. It's all about visual and lacks what swinging used to be about and maybe the growth on the site loses the community it's purpose when it's just a hook up site now. The many I've met at the swing clubs over the past 4 years comment on how fab is full of nasty folks who are not proper swingers. All I would like to see is people being much friendlier to each other. Build trust and relationships - we used to be suspicious of incomers and it was special to share your partner or even have the chance to talk to others but fab just isn't that nice swinging community any more. I left fab 2 years ago because of this and I guess I forgot how nasty it gets, but rejoining it looked a bit better but over the past month some people honestly don't deserve the trust I know friends give. So are you saying that people are wrong to seek a physical attraction in their play partner's? Ffs sinders it's a sex site any hole or poles a goal no glass slippers needed here
Whoops that's why no prince has returned my shoe!
Exactly now get on all fours and pull your knickers to the side so I can ram it in
That's a bit inappropriate
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"My personal advice... Never send unsolicited dick picks or have them as your profile picture... .............. Try attending a social or 2... even if to get yourself a few verifications... most people wont go near anyone that doesnt have verifications.... ............. Try going along to a club like cjs or after8... or the new one in dundee.... ............. Dont have a pity party on the forums... If someone isnt interested...or doesnt reply to your messages... Move on.. try again Dont have any expectations and if anything happens it's a pleasant surprise... Spitting dummies wont get you anywherevery very sound advice put in a very nice way
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