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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There would still be Scottish people on the streets regardless

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OOoofty good luck with this but there is a political forum this might have been better to post on! Just a suggestion

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

Hate to break it to you but most are not homeless due to immigration ...unfortunately there are many many different reasons for people living on the streets

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc."

I don’t think immigrants should have the right to social housing until they have been here for a good few years, right now anyone that’s resident can apply

So British people can be waiting for years then the house is given to a fairly new immigrant and family as they are seen to have more need even though they have put them self in need to come here, absolutely no way of telling if the own property back home or have money as it’s held abroad.

But nhs and care yes, we can’t have people sick and dying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Put themselves in need as in escaping war torn countries?

Crossing water trying not to let their kids drown for a high rise in possil and £50 a week benifits? Aye how very dare they!

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By *earded blossomCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Put themselves in need as in escaping war torn countries?

Crossing water trying not to let their kids drown for a high rise in possil and £50 a week benifits? Aye how very dare they! "

They escaped the war torn countries well before coming here

John

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

We are a country of immigrants Irish, English, Polish, Asian sub continent, Asian eastern area everyone adds a little more dimension culture and fabric to our society.

We should always remember we also are country of emigrants to Oz, America, Canada and other far flung corners of the globe.

The ones fleeing wars are more than welcome and it's a measure of our democracy and values on how we treat those people when they reach our shores.

As the above says, it's not immigration that caused homelessness, it's always been here and no where near England problem.

We should be building more social housing and housing all that want housing.

So in answer to your question, I embrace immigration, there is nothing to be scared of and everyone deserves a chance in life, let's give them a chance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Put themselves in need as in escaping war torn countries?

Crossing water trying not to let their kids drown for a high rise in possil and £50 a week benifits? Aye how very dare they!

They escaped the war torn countries well before coming here

John "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hate to break it to you but most are not homeless due to immigration ...unfortunately there are many many different reasons for people living on the streets "

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By *earded blossomCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"We are a country of immigrants Irish, English, Polish, Asian sub continent, Asian eastern area everyone adds a little more dimension culture and fabric to our society.

We should always remember we also are country of emigrants to Oz, America, Canada and other far flung corners of the globe.

The ones fleeing wars are more than welcome and it's a measure of our democracy and values on how we treat those people when they reach our shores.

As the above says, it's not immigration that caused homelessness, it's always been here and no where near England problem.

We should be building more social housing and housing all that want housing.

So in answer to your question, I embrace immigration, there is nothing to be scared of and everyone deserves a chance in life, let's give them a chance "

Half of us wouldn't be here if it wasn't for immigrants

K

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc."

its a big question but within the confines of your question no there should be no immigration if you cant sustain your own people

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

You could have an over supply of houses and there will still be homeless people and people sleeping on the streets.

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By *reeMan
over a year ago

Paisley


"We are a country of immigrants Irish, English, Polish, Asian sub continent, Asian eastern area everyone adds a little more dimension culture and fabric to our society.

We should always remember we also are country of emigrants to Oz, America, Canada and other far flung corners of the globe.

The ones fleeing wars are more than welcome and it's a measure of our democracy and values on how we treat those people when they reach our shores.

As the above says, it's not immigration that caused homelessness, it's always been here and no where near England problem.

We should be building more social housing and housing all that want housing.

So in answer to your question, I embrace immigration, there is nothing to be scared of and everyone deserves a chance in life, let's give them a chance "

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By *adbury girlWoman
over a year ago

Lanarkshire

As said above assylum seekers are fleeing atrocities and are in fear for their lives. Also have to prove this first so quite often in detention centres before obtaining homes.

Other immigrants have to be self sufficient financially for a set period of time before they are allowed access to benefits etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc."

Where did you get the evidence for this statement?? Where is the proof of this??

Or are you just jumping on the Tommy Robinson/Donald Trump bandwagon, that all economic and social problems are the fault of immigrants/Muslims or anyone who isn't white???

Maybe it is all just fake news.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc.

I don’t think immigrants should have the right to social housing until they have been here for a good few years, right now anyone that’s resident can apply

So British people can be waiting for years then the house is given to a fairly new immigrant and family as they are seen to have more need even though they have put them self in need to come here, absolutely no way of telling if the own property back home or have money as it’s held abroad.

But nhs and care yes, we can’t have people sick and dying "

This is completely factually incorrect... Have a look on the shelter website about how many restrictions there actually are on non uk residents being provided with housing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc.

I don’t think immigrants should have the right to social housing until they have been here for a good few years, right now anyone that’s resident can apply

So British people can be waiting for years then the house is given to a fairly new immigrant and family as they are seen to have more need even though they have put them self in need to come here, absolutely no way of telling if the own property back home or have money as it’s held abroad.

But nhs and care yes, we can’t have people sick and dying

This is completely factually incorrect... Have a look on the shelter website about how many restrictions there actually are on non uk residents being provided with housing "

Seems it is ok to tell falsehoods and pass them off as reality these days.

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By *izzabelle and well hungCouple
over a year ago

Edinburgh.

We should put up the minimum wage for people coming to this country solely for work. I’d suggest £12 per hour. I’m fed up of seeing vulnerable people being exploited, seeing people living 12 to a house and slavery. Think about it the next time you get your car hand washed for a fiver by someone dressed in rags who doesn’t speak English. Pop over himself and get the job paper did he? I don’t think so. I don’t want to live by the exploitation of others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc.

I don’t think immigrants should have the right to social housing until they have been here for a good few years, right now anyone that’s resident can apply

Totally agree, look after our own first

So British people can be waiting for years then the house is given to a fairly new immigrant and family as they are seen to have more need even though they have put them self in need to come here, absolutely no way of telling if the own property back home or have money as it’s held abroad.

But nhs and care yes, we can’t have people sick and dying "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We should put up the minimum wage for people coming to this country solely for work. I’d suggest £12 per hour. I’m fed up of seeing vulnerable people being exploited, seeing people living 12 to a house and slavery. Think about it the next time you get your car hand washed for a fiver by someone dressed in rags who doesn’t speak English. Pop over himself and get the job paper did he? I don’t think so. I don’t want to live by the exploitation of others. "

Where do you get your car done for a fiver. I'm 12 quid to get mine done

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc.

I don’t think immigrants should have the right to social housing until they have been here for a good few years, right now anyone that’s resident can apply

So British people can be waiting for years then the house is given to a fairly new immigrant and family as they are seen to have more need even though they have put them self in need to come here, absolutely no way of telling if the own property back home or have money as it’s held abroad.

But nhs and care yes, we can’t have people sick and dying

This is completely factually incorrect... Have a look on the shelter website about how many restrictions there actually are on non uk residents being provided with housing

Seems it is ok to tell falsehoods and pass them off as reality these days. "

If you have residency for Europeans or leave to remain non eu members or granted refugee status you are eligible for housing

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc.

Where did you get the evidence for this statement?? Where is the proof of this??

Or are you just jumping on the Tommy Robinson/Donald Trump bandwagon, that all economic and social problems are the fault of immigrants/Muslims or anyone who isn't white???

Maybe it is all just fake news. "

I asked a question

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By *onkeymagic50Man
over a year ago

Near the harbour

I welcome them but dont welcome there work ideas .I have worked for same company 15 years and when I started we had 1 polish employee ,At that time management /employee relations where excellent as we had a strong workforce who collectively could say to management no this practice is wrong as we all were in the union .Over the years the company has employed mainly eastern Europeans and we now work in what I would call an unsafe place as they do work there bollox off more than some of the locals but through culture they believe management is always right even if they wrong ,hope this makes sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I welcome them but dont welcome there work ideas .I have worked for same company 15 years and when I started we had 1 polish employee ,At that time management /employee relations where excellent as we had a strong workforce who collectively could say to management no this practice is wrong as we all were in the union .Over the years the company has employed mainly eastern Europeans and we now work in what I would call an unsafe place as they do work there bollox off more than some of the locals but through culture they believe management is always right even if they wrong ,hope this makes sense"

They're almost grateful just to have a job and don't want to rock the boat you mean?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I welcome them but dont welcome there work ideas .I have worked for same company 15 years and when I started we had 1 polish employee ,At that time management /employee relations where excellent as we had a strong workforce who collectively could say to management no this practice is wrong as we all were in the union .Over the years the company has employed mainly eastern Europeans and we now work in what I would call an unsafe place as they do work there bollox off more than some of the locals but through culture they believe management is always right even if they wrong ,hope this makes sense"

Sounds like a management issue, not an employee one.

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea


"We should put up the minimum wage for people coming to this country solely for work. I’d suggest £12 per hour. I’m fed up of seeing vulnerable people being exploited, seeing people living 12 to a house and slavery. Think about it the next time you get your car hand washed for a fiver by someone dressed in rags who doesn’t speak English. Pop over himself and get the job paper did he? I don’t think so. I don’t want to live by the exploitation of others. "

Why should immigrants get £4.00 more per hour than British people ? we have a minimum wage and anyone paying below is at risk of a fine

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By *ast RolloMan
over a year ago

glasgow west

immigrants are a joke those that flee a war zone are ment to get to the nearest safe country - we are not near any war zone so how is the UK the nearest safe country.

easter europeans can come over and work on a visa but when the visa runs out then send them back

AUS and new Zealand have got the right idea if you can not supply the skills they need then you dont get in

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)


"immigrants are a joke those that flee a war zone are ment to get to the nearest safe country - we are not near any war zone so how is the UK the nearest safe country.

easter europeans can come over and work on a visa but when the visa runs out then send them back

AUS and new Zealand have got the right idea if you can not supply the skills they need then you dont get in

"

As part of a United Nations agreement we are supposed to take our quota of refugees ....we dont and I personally would accuse anyone fleeing for their life with their family a joke.

Easten Europeans and Western Europeans in general come here to work. To contribute to the country and provide income to the country that ultimately pays for your pension, therefore why cant they stay they are contributing and as we all now know their contribution is greater than their cost.

Australia and NZ are two nations built on emigration are you suggesting they now send the Scots Enflish Irish and Welsh back to their homeland as they have out stayed their welcome.

WOW!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having been out on the streets working with various agencies the homeless issues are never going to change and immigrants don’t just get given housing, there particular rules and guidelines on how it works and contrary to public belief it’s actually very hard for certain countries to get any benefits, there’s actually less immigrants in the uk on benefits than there is Brit’s abroad on benefits in other countries, in France alone there’s twice as many brits on benefits than the entire immigrant population here in uk, in Spain there’s about 80%, and also many ex pats return to the uk to pick up prescriptions when they are home visiting families

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc."

Your question is disingenuous.

What is your definition of 'Scottish'.

Define 'immigrant'.

Homelessness isn't caused by immigrants.

Where is your proof that immigration causes Scottish people to live in the streets? Did you get this info from Robinson/trump/farage et al? The same guys who talk about invasions and the eu taking £350mil a week from the NHS? Why don't we ask farage when that money is coming back!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc.

I don’t think immigrants should have the right to social housing until they have been here for a good few years, right now anyone that’s resident can apply

So British people can be waiting for years then the house is given to a fairly new immigrant and family as they are seen to have more need even though they have put them self in need to come here, absolutely no way of telling if the own property back home or have money as it’s held abroad.

But nhs and care yes, we can’t have people sick and dying

This is completely factually incorrect... Have a look on the shelter website about how many restrictions there actually are on non uk residents being provided with housing

Seems it is ok to tell falsehoods and pass them off as reality these days.

If you have residency for Europeans or leave to remain non eu members or granted refugee status you are eligible for housing "

Yep both things you have to legally prove, so not people just turning up for a free ride and getting whatever as many are suggesting

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By *Carver-Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

I can tell you from personal experience that the housing provided to asylum seekers is piss-poor and often entirely unfit for habitation. The Home Office contractor knows that these folks have no real way to challenge their living conditions, and the less the home office contractor spends on actually doing their job, the bigger the profit margin for them.

Honestly, anyone living in these properties is fucking scandalous.

Migrants aren't keeping anyone on the streets; greedy landlords, establishment politicians and the entire profit motive of capitalism are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Put themselves in need as in escaping war torn countries?

Crossing water trying not to let their kids drown for a high rise in possil and £50 a week benifits? Aye how very dare they! "

Exactly. It’s hardly gated communities and a fucking Bentley they get. Maybe if the UK government wasn’t so trigger happy along with the gung-ho! American one we wouldn’t have mass migration and population shifting that we do. Arguably, ‘we’ created the problem.

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By *tew008Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

I’m all for immigrants joining fab, hopefully convince them to meet me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Migrants aren't keeping anyone on the streets; greedy landlords, establishment politicians and the entire profit motive of capitalism are. "

To a point ... but that suggests that throwing money at the problem would solve it

We could have an infinite number of empty houses and rent paid for people and we would still have a homeless issue, mainly because homelessness is not actually the root problem but merely a symptom of addiction and mental health issues

Most of the “homeless” people in glasgow actually have somewhere (indoors) to sleep, it is the lack of appropriate health and addiction services not just accommodation that ensures the problem continues

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

uk


"immigrants are a joke those that flee a war zone are ment to get to the nearest safe country - we are not near any war zone so how is the UK the nearest safe country.

easter europeans can come over and work on a visa but when the visa runs out then send them back

AUS and new Zealand have got the right idea if you can not supply the skills they need then you dont get in

"

Those who flee war zones are not immigrants.

Also, when escaping a war zone they are under no obligation to stay in the first safe country. If they manage to get to the UK then they can claim asylum here. However, the UK can send them back to the first country they entered under the Dublin Regulation. The only issue with that is it's difficult to prove which country they went to first.

My money is on you voting to leave the EU...

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By *izzabelle and well hungCouple
over a year ago

Edinburgh.


"We should put up the minimum wage for people coming to this country solely for work. I’d suggest £12 per hour. I’m fed up of seeing vulnerable people being exploited, seeing people living 12 to a house and slavery. Think about it the next time you get your car hand washed for a fiver by someone dressed in rags who doesn’t speak English. Pop over himself and get the job paper did he? I don’t think so. I don’t want to live by the exploitation of others.

Why should immigrants get £4.00 more per hour than British people ? we have a minimum wage and anyone paying below is at risk of a fine

"

Would you go to Poland and work for £8 an hour? If you go to another country and work at that countries minimum wage you are only there for one reason.... to depress the wage in the host country.

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By *anon6dMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"We are a country of immigrants Irish, English, Polish, Asian sub continent, Asian eastern area everyone adds a little more dimension culture and fabric to our society.

We should always remember we also are country of emigrants to Oz, America, Canada and other far flung corners of the globe.

The ones fleeing wars are more than welcome and it's a measure of our democracy and values on how we treat those people when they reach our shores.

As the above says, it's not immigration that caused homelessness, it's always been here and no where near England problem.

We should be building more social housing and housing all that want housing.

So in answer to your question, I embrace immigration, there is nothing to be scared of and everyone deserves a chance in life, let's give them a chance "

well said.

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By *ighlander80884Man
over a year ago

Inverness

Immigrants or migrants? There is a difference.

I know someone who came here from Tunisia, their visa states they cannot claim any public funds. That means they are not entitled to council housing.

Scotland needs migrants, we do not have enough people living in Scotland, we need more people.

The migrants I have met are here to work, they don't want to be on benefits, they want to earn money and support their families.

So many newspaper stories about immigrants on £100k of benefits while pensioners are on £5k a year, it's mainly newspaper and racist shite.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That’s funny ! And true in the same time , and trust me people that come over here don’t do it because they have it well in their own countries , and let me tell you something op , they work their butts off for a better life ! They have 2 or 2 jobs , and pay taxes , ( not everyone but almost )

All this people contribute something to society and economy .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow how ignorant are you pal ! If all the imigrants go home from where they came back half the NHS sistem would suffer ! So I take it you and Trump are in the same boat

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By *onmacMan
over a year ago

glasgow


"We are a country of immigrants Irish, English, Polish, Asian sub continent, Asian eastern area everyone adds a little more dimension culture and fabric to our society.

We should always remember we also are country of emigrants to Oz, America, Canada and other far flung corners of the globe.

The ones fleeing wars are more than welcome and it's a measure of our democracy and values on how we treat those people when they reach our shores.

As the above says, it's not immigration that caused homelessness, it's always been here and no where near England problem.

We should be building more social housing and housing all that want housing.

So in answer to your question, I embrace immigration, there is nothing to be scared of and everyone deserves a chance in life, let's give them a chance "

Have to agree. Could just as easily argue that if so many if 'our own' did not try to default the system there would be monies available for those who deserve it more.

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By *onmacMan
over a year ago

glasgow


"We are a country of immigrants Irish, English, Polish, Asian sub continent, Asian eastern area everyone adds a little more dimension culture and fabric to our society.

We should always remember we also are country of emigrants to Oz, America, Canada and other far flung corners of the globe.

The ones fleeing wars are more than welcome and it's a measure of our democracy and values on how we treat those people when they reach our shores.

As the above says, it's not immigration that caused homelessness, it's always been here and no where near England problem.

We should be building more social housing and housing all that want housing.

So in answer to your question, I embrace immigration, there is nothing to be scared of and everyone deserves a chance in life, let's give them a chance "

Have to agree. Could just as easily argue that if so many if 'our own' did not try to default the system there would be monies available for those who deserve it more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are a country of immigrants Irish, English, Polish, Asian sub continent, Asian eastern area everyone adds a little more dimension culture and fabric to our society.

We should always remember we also are country of emigrants to Oz, America, Canada and other far flung corners of the globe.

The ones fleeing wars are more than welcome and it's a measure of our democracy and values on how we treat those people when they reach our shores.

As the above says, it's not immigration that caused homelessness, it's always been here and no where near England problem.

We should be building more social housing and housing all that want housing.

So in answer to your question, I embrace immigration, there is nothing to be scared of and everyone deserves a chance in life, let's give them a chance "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with immigration we need them!!!! and unfortunately they will also fall into conditions they cant fund themselves, they are human after all.

But there is another crises that both governments have overlooked. Im ex Army and im active in my local area supporting ex forces many with PTSD, for example in Polmont woods there are 6 x ex servicemen living of grid.

Mental health is a growing problem that isnt getting grasped by our government's

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By *ithardscotMan
over a year ago

Kelty

Don't go there. Only refugees get that kind if treatment and usually because we've bombed the shit out of their home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are a country of immigrants Irish, English, Polish, Asian sub continent, Asian eastern area everyone adds a little more dimension culture and fabric to our society.

We should always remember we also are country of emigrants to Oz, America, Canada and other far flung corners of the globe.

The ones fleeing wars are more than welcome and it's a measure of our democracy and values on how we treat those people when they reach our shores.

As the above says, it's not immigration that caused homelessness, it's always been here and no where near England problem.

We should be building more social housing and housing all that want housing.

So in answer to your question, I embrace immigration, there is nothing to be scared of and everyone deserves a chance in life, let's give them a chance

Have to agree. Could just as easily argue that if so many if 'our own' did not try to default the system there would be monies available for those who deserve it more."

To be honestly there wouldn’t be that much in comparison to the monies lost by high flying tax dodgers, just sounds better in the media to attack those worse off and blame benefit cheats and scrounges for being the drain on society, a merely drop

I’m the ocean compared to the big corporate tax dodgers and prob half of not more than those with ties to government

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There would still be Scottish people on the streets regardless "

Only got as far as your comment, so true. We all look for excuses if we fuck up.

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By *ithardscotMan
over a year ago

Kelty


"We are a country of immigrants Irish, English, Polish, Asian sub continent, Asian eastern area everyone adds a little more dimension culture and fabric to our society.

We should always remember we also are country of emigrants to Oz, America, Canada and other far flung corners of the globe.

The ones fleeing wars are more than welcome and it's a measure of our democracy and values on how we treat those people when they reach our shores.

As the above says, it's not immigration that caused homelessness, it's always been here and no where near England problem.

We should be building more social housing and housing all that want housing.

So in answer to your question, I embrace immigration, there is nothing to be scared of and everyone deserves a chance in life, let's give them a chance

Have to agree. Could just as easily argue that if so many if 'our own' did not try to default the system there would be monies available for those who deserve it more.

To be honestly there wouldn’t be that much in comparison to the monies lost by high flying tax dodgers, just sounds better in the media to attack those worse off and blame benefit cheats and scrounges for being the drain on society, a merely drop

I’m the ocean compared to the big corporate tax dodgers and prob half of not more than those with ties to government "

This ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Refugees.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc.

Where did you get the evidence for this statement?? Where is the proof of this??

Or are you just jumping on the Tommy Robinson/Donald Trump bandwagon, that all economic and social problems are the fault of immigrants/Muslims or anyone who isn't white???

Maybe it is all just fake news. "

Lot of Scottish people or realty should not use that terminology as people from all nations out on the street and people are people so respect with the wording however in this day an age people should not be be living rough and yes immigration is bad as Scottish Governments supports ! And fact! I have no issues with war torn countries coming here to live but when you let in everyone costing us a fortune through NHS ,benefits system etc , we have enough in Scotland who are on benefits and lot deserve but lot of chances to who fuck up the system. As for homeless very complex due to upbringing , addictions etc but still no excuse to be living rough but sadly only life they know ! When SNP came into to power they said they would help the poorest parts of Glasgow and is fact! However SNP have done fuck all to fix the poorer parts of Scotland and Infact caused more problems including for the working people ! At least Trump help poorest parts of America! And that’s fact !

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By *eviantgent79Couple
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Firstly, Immigrants - do NOT get access to free housing and social benefits unless they have been working here for 2 years.

Refugees - are settled here by the government and due to the harrowing circumstances that they have come from and the fact that they own nothing, are given assistance to settle into communities and learn english...

know the difference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Firstly, Immigrants - do NOT get access to free housing and social benefits unless they have been working here for 2 years.

Refugees - are settled here by the government and due to the harrowing circumstances that they have come from and the fact that they own nothing, are given assistance to settle into communities and learn english...

know the difference"

It’s not as simple as that, people make wrong choices and maybe don’t have a support system to get them through the difficult times, if someone flees a horrible place and makes it somewhere and works hard and is a good member of society then good on them. Life is very hard and some people are born luckier than others x

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc."

What free housing are these immigrants getting?

Does the Australian oncology consultant get free housing?

Or the Polish guy working as a cleaner in the same hospital?

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Put themselves in need as in escaping war torn countries?

Crossing water trying not to let their kids drown for a high rise in possil and £50 a week benifits? Aye how very dare they!

They escaped the war torn countries well before coming here

John "

Is your point that the country adjacent to a war torn country should absorb 100% of the refugees created by the war?

So if the UK happened to be the adjacent country you would be in favour of the UK absorbing 100% of the refugees compared to the much smaller % it currently does. (I think the UK currently takes in about 2% of the world’s refugee population)

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc.

I don’t think immigrants should have the right to social housing until they have been here for a good few years, right now anyone that’s resident can apply

So British people can be waiting for years then the house is given to a fairly new immigrant and family as they are seen to have more need even though they have put them self in need to come here, absolutely no way of telling if the own property back home or have money as it’s held abroad.

But nhs and care yes, we can’t have people sick and dying

This is completely factually incorrect... Have a look on the shelter website about how many restrictions there actually are on non uk residents being provided with housing "

Since when did a discussion on immigration need to bother itself with pesky things like facts?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc."

What a stupid post

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By *entish79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"immigrants are a joke those that flee a war zone are ment to get to the nearest safe country - we are not near any war zone so how is the UK the nearest safe country.

easter europeans can come over and work on a visa but when the visa runs out then send them back

AUS and new Zealand have got the right idea if you can not supply the skills they need then you dont get in

"

Same question to you as above....

If the UK did happen to be the nearest country to a war zone, would you advocate that the UK should absorb 100% of refugees?

Or would you, sure as eggs is eggs, be complaining that other countries should share the burden?

And no, that’s not a rhetorical question.

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By *ringles0510Woman
over a year ago

Central Borders


"Firstly, Immigrants - do NOT get access to free housing and social benefits unless they have been working here for 2 years.

Refugees - are settled here by the government and due to the harrowing circumstances that they have come from and the fact that they own nothing, are given assistance to settle into communities and learn english...

know the difference"

Thought it was 3 years for immigrants, unless it's changed since I moved here. But totally agree with this x

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By *ringles0510Woman
over a year ago

Central Borders


"Firstly, Immigrants - do NOT get access to free housing and social benefits unless they have been working here for 2 years.

Refugees - are settled here by the government and due to the harrowing circumstances that they have come from and the fact that they own nothing, are given assistance to settle into communities and learn english...

know the difference

Thought it was 3 years for immigrants, unless it's changed since I moved here. But totally agree with this x"

And as been said a few times, homeless people here are not homeless because of immigrants x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As said above assylum seekers are fleeing atrocities and are in fear for their lives. Also have to prove this first so quite often in detention centres before obtaining homes.

Other immigrants have to be self sufficient financially for a set period of time before they are allowed access to benefits etc"

Agree with that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree with immigration we need them!!!! and unfortunately they will also fall into conditions they cant fund themselves, they are human after all.

But there is another crises that both governments have overlooked. Im ex Army and im active in my local area supporting ex forces many with PTSD, for example in Polmont woods there are 6 x ex servicemen living of grid.

Mental health is a growing problem that isnt getting grasped by our government's

"

Governments create the problems and sadly soldiers and civilians have to suffer for politics causing The different military who fight for little minded uneducated politically mined arse pieces have no clue , just cause misery !Glad you are supporting these other brave characters and not easy as no doubt you have suffered to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We should put up the minimum wage for people coming to this country solely for work. I’d suggest £12 per hour. I’m fed up of seeing vulnerable people being exploited, seeing people living 12 to a house and slavery. Think about it the next time you get your car hand washed for a fiver by someone dressed in rags who doesn’t speak English. Pop over himself and get the job paper did he? I don’t think so. I don’t want to live by the exploitation of others. "

Spot on their lady .But sadly Governments in the pass including your NHS has exploited these individuals an big corporate companies. Seen an interview weeks ago from some strawberry farm complaining can’t get staff as usual they pick on immigrants to pick the fruits .They have realistic done this for around 30 odd years if not more as they pay sweetie money to do and immigrants are desperate to work ! Exploitation it’s called ! Big corporate companies are guilty in including big major hotels etc ! Exploit people but still charge a fortune but never pay prober wages .Goverments turn people against each other and never admit it . My issue is still people coming here claiming benefits and using are NHS, housing benefits etc without paying into to deliberate, draining us all . We all get some bad luck in life however we pick are self up and do good things but immigrants that take the piss is a back no no .Politician have a lot to answer for !

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By *ighland gentlemanMan
over a year ago

Ardgay

Can't think of a single immigrant who's not working and claiming benefits or living off the state up here.

However can not say the same for those born in the UK. Plenty of them quite happy not to work.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

Immigration is part of evolution. It’s been happening for hundreds of years it’s just nowadays the media make the information available which can be manipulated to to certain demographic audiences.

I’ve been to 3 war zones in my life and witnessed the fallout and atrocities that come with it and I don’t blame anyone for trying to escape that for a better life.

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By *obertELeeMan
over a year ago

Montrose


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc."

I know a few homeless people and to be honest they sleep out because they choose to. Some people will take help but others are just not interested.

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By *ail_forceTV/TS
over a year ago

Dundee


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc."

foreigners coming here stealing our meets etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Immigration is part of evolution. It’s been happening for hundreds of years it’s just nowadays the media make the information available which can be manipulated to to certain demographic audiences.

I’ve been to 3 war zones in my life and witnessed the fallout and atrocities that come with it and I don’t blame anyone for trying to escape that for a better life.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Immigration is part of evolution. It’s been happening for hundreds of years it’s just nowadays the media make the information available which can be manipulated to to certain demographic audiences.

I’ve been to 3 war zones in my life and witnessed the fallout and atrocities that come with it and I don’t blame anyone for trying to escape that for a better life.

"

Amen.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc.

foreigners coming here stealing our meets etc "

I thought they wanted to know what love is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc.

foreigners coming here stealing our meets etc

I thought they wanted to know what love is "

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By *ail_forceTV/TS
over a year ago

Dundee


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc.

foreigners coming here stealing our meets etc

I thought they wanted to know what love is "

i set 'em up you knock 'em down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What's everyone's thoughts on this

Should there be scottish people on the streets whilst immigrants receive free housing,nhs care etc.

foreigners coming here stealing our meets etc

I thought they wanted to know what love is

i set 'em up you knock 'em down "

What a team

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By *anon6dMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Here we go again the nigel farage brigade.

Taken our houses jobs getting all the benefits what a load of pish.

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By *izzmasterzeroMan
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Bloody Asians coming over here and taking all our Polish people's jobs!

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By *dultfunscotland2000Man
over a year ago

Scotland and beyond


"Put themselves in need as in escaping war torn countries?

Crossing water trying not to let their kids drown for a high rise in possil and £50 a week benifits? Aye how very dare they! "

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