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"The term sugar daddy has been around for years! R "Yes was the sugar babies I've never heard of? The ones on the program appear to be doing the exploiting. | |||
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"Young attractive girls/boys now called sugar babies looking for sugar daddies, right or wrong, acceptable or unacceptable,would you have one would you be one? Discuss?" I’m way too old to be one but the concept is utterly repugnant especially depending on age. Even a young adult may not be psychologically mature and such relationships could do irreparable damage. However some of these relationships are more complex than mere prostitution, if indeed you would call it that. I’ve heard marriage described as a form of legal prostitution which is an interesting concept. It’s certainly not new and won’t stop. | |||
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"Don’t really know why people are thinking either group are being exploited - the baby has decided they are willing to trade their time/affection/pictures/possibly full service sex work with a consenting adult. The daddy has chosen to spend their money in that way. People pay for other people to do stuff they themselves are perfectly capable of doing all the time - making food, pouring drinks, painting nails, applying make up, shaving etc etc so why is companionship any different? Most people in these relationships have done their own version of a cost/benefit analysis and they obvs thinks there is a benefit. Also, don’t really get how it’s morally wrong to charge for sex but doing it for free with randoms off the internet is fine. We have sex with randoms off the internet btw, I’m not trying to insult anyone with that part haha. " It's not morally wrong to pay for sex if both parties enter into the agreement on equal terms with no outside influences. However as we know most prostitution, and this is a form of prostitution has other influences and very often the woman is the victim....that's very morally wrong. The sugar daddy concept doesn't sit easy with me as it infers you can but a relationship which is far more than sex. It is also income based which is in itself elitist. | |||
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"I think both parties could very easily be exploited and it's not always the younger of the two who is the "innocent" one. The saying "no fool like an old fool springs to mind"." Agreed there Mrs Doggy - context, as always is key  | |||
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"Don’t really know why people are thinking either group are being exploited - the baby has decided they are willing to trade their time/affection/pictures/possibly full service sex work with a consenting adult. The daddy has chosen to spend their money in that way. People pay for other people to do stuff they themselves are perfectly capable of doing all the time - making food, pouring drinks, painting nails, applying make up, shaving etc etc so why is companionship any different? Most people in these relationships have done their own version of a cost/benefit analysis and they obvs thinks there is a benefit. Also, don’t really get how it’s morally wrong to charge for sex but doing it for free with randoms off the internet is fine. We have sex with randoms off the internet btw, I’m not trying to insult anyone with that part haha. " I hear a lot of what you're saying there but as I said above a lot of it has to be taken in context. The negatives are that as Doggy said someone older could be taken advantage of. Someone younger may not be psychologically mature enough to deal with this even though they are age of consent but I'd think some are under age or borderline. Seeing as we are not using the term companion I am gonna presume "sugar baby" more often than not includes some kind of sexual inclusion and that's why I am saying that. According to researches done there are a small number of people in the sex industry that enjoy what they do and are happy doing it (I also agree it should be legalised) but there are many more that suffer hugely either mentally or physically. As to random sex on the internet or anywhere else that is free choice between two consenting adults, though again admittedly not always - that too is open to abuse. | |||
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"When I was at uni there were a few girls who were on sites charging for sex. This helped with fees etc... These girls didn't like what they done many times it mentally scarred them, but it was the only way to make ends meet. Part time jobs wasn't an option as it messed with what little student loan/ bursary they got... Few weeks ago I was discussing with one of the girls. She said people slated her for what she done... She made a very valid point girls on hookup sites meeting different guys daily giving it away for free ... She came to the conclusion she was the smart one ... She had been degrading herself daily but at least it got her to be where she is today... " Disturbing... very very disturbing and I'm sorry I cannot for the life of me condone what your friend did to her own mental health  | |||
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"When I was at uni there were a few girls who were on sites charging for sex. This helped with fees etc... These girls didn't like what they done many times it mentally scarred them, but it was the only way to make ends meet. Part time jobs wasn't an option as it messed with what little student loan/ bursary they got... Few weeks ago I was discussing with one of the girls. She said people slated her for what she done... She made a very valid point girls on hookup sites meeting different guys daily giving it away for free ... She came to the conclusion she was the smart one ... She had been degrading herself daily but at least it got her to be where she is today... Disturbing... very very disturbing and I'm sorry I cannot for the life of me condone what your friend did to her own mental health "Whole heartedly agree her mental health has suffered greatly. Doesn't matter how much she tries to dismiss it.. | |||
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"When I was at uni there were a few girls who were on sites charging for sex. This helped with fees etc... These girls didn't like what they done many times it mentally scarred them, but it was the only way to make ends meet. Part time jobs wasn't an option as it messed with what little student loan/ bursary they got... Few weeks ago I was discussing with one of the girls. She said people slated her for what she done... She made a very valid point girls on hookup sites meeting different guys daily giving it away for free ... She came to the conclusion she was the smart one ... She had been degrading herself daily but at least it got her to be where she is today... Disturbing... very very disturbing and I'm sorry I cannot for the life of me condone what your friend did to her own mental health "
She might be in a good job now but I think that would skew your opinion of men for the rest of your life. May be talking shite though as I've never been paid for sex. | |||
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"When I was at uni there were a few girls who were on sites charging for sex. This helped with fees etc... These girls didn't like what they done many times it mentally scarred them, but it was the only way to make ends meet. Part time jobs wasn't an option as it messed with what little student loan/ bursary they got... Few weeks ago I was discussing with one of the girls. She said people slated her for what she done... She made a very valid point girls on hookup sites meeting different guys daily giving it away for free ... She came to the conclusion she was the smart one ... She had been degrading herself daily but at least it got her to be where she is today... Disturbing... very very disturbing and I'm sorry I cannot for the life of me condone what your friend did to her own mental health
Whole heartedly agree her mental health has suffered greatly.
Doesn't matter how much she tries to dismiss it..
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"When I was at uni there were a few girls who were on sites charging for sex. This helped with fees etc... These girls didn't like what they done many times it mentally scarred them, but it was the only way to make ends meet. Part time jobs wasn't an option as it messed with what little student loan/ bursary they got... Few weeks ago I was discussing with one of the girls. She said people slated her for what she done... She made a very valid point girls on hookup sites meeting different guys daily giving it away for free ... She came to the conclusion she was the smart one ... She had been degrading herself daily but at least it got her to be where she is today... Disturbing... very very disturbing and I'm sorry I cannot for the life of me condone what your friend did to her own mental health
She might be in a good job now but I think that would skew your opinion of men for the rest of your life. May be talking shite though as I've never been paid for sex."I think so too Mrs Doggy - same on the last bit lol | |||
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"When I was at uni there were a few girls who were on sites charging for sex. This helped with fees etc... These girls didn't like what they done many times it mentally scarred them, but it was the only way to make ends meet. Part time jobs wasn't an option as it messed with what little student loan/ bursary they got... Few weeks ago I was discussing with one of the girls. She said people slated her for what she done... She made a very valid point girls on hookup sites meeting different guys daily giving it away for free ... She came to the conclusion she was the smart one ... She had been degrading herself daily but at least it got her to be where she is today... Disturbing... very very disturbing and I'm sorry I cannot for the life of me condone what your friend did to her own mental health
She might be in a good job now but I think that would skew your opinion of men for the rest of your life. May be talking shite though as I've never been paid for sex."Many marriages will have skewed women’s opinions on men and vice versa and the sex can be just as degrading. After my separation I was 5 years before considering meeting a guy again as I felt so free when I made my ex leave that I didn’t want to give that up. | |||
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"When I was at uni there were a few girls who were on sites charging for sex. This helped with fees etc... These girls didn't like what they done many times it mentally scarred them, but it was the only way to make ends meet. Part time jobs wasn't an option as it messed with what little student loan/ bursary they got... Few weeks ago I was discussing with one of the girls. She said people slated her for what she done... She made a very valid point girls on hookup sites meeting different guys daily giving it away for free ... She came to the conclusion she was the smart one ... She had been degrading herself daily but at least it got her to be where she is today... Disturbing... very very disturbing and I'm sorry I cannot for the life of me condone what your friend did to her own mental health
She might be in a good job now but I think that would skew your opinion of men for the rest of your life. May be talking shite though as I've never been paid for sex.
Many marriages will have skewed women’s opinions on men and vice versa and the sex can be just as degrading.
After my separation I was 5 years before considering meeting a guy again as I felt so free when I made my ex leave that I didn’t want to give that up. "Yep both men and women can be abused every bit as much within marriage, glad you got away from that CG | |||
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" any marriages will have skewed women’s opinions on men and vice versa and the sex can be just as degrading. After my separation I was 5 years before considering meeting a guy again as I felt so free when I made my ex leave that I didn’t want to give that up. Yep both men and women can be abused every bit as much within marriage, glad you got away from that CG "Me too, though it wasn’t the worst marriage ever but happy to be away from it.  | |||
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" any marriages will have skewed women’s opinions on men and vice versa and the sex can be just as degrading. After my separation I was 5 years before considering meeting a guy again as I felt so free when I made my ex leave that I didn’t want to give that up. Yep both men and women can be abused every bit as much within marriage, glad you got away from that CG
Me too, though it wasn’t the worst marriage ever but happy to be away from it. "Too many never leave when they should - it's a brave thing to do though | |||
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"Isn’t this what Bill Wan and Mandy’s smith was in the 80’s. She was 13 and he was 44 and they started having sex when she was 14. Why is this guy not in jail? " Often thought that myself. | |||
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"Isn’t this what Bill Wan and Mandy’s smith was in the 80’s. She was 13 and he was 44 and they started having sex when she was 14. Why is this guy not in jail? " Good point, absolute pedo not even close to legal. Could it be where he was living at time dunno, but yes he should have heard the clink o the keys long ago. | |||
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"Isn’t this what Bill Wan and Mandy’s smith was in the 80’s. She was 13 and he was 44 and they started having sex when she was 14. Why is this guy not in jail? " Jimmy Page done something similar in the 70's. Amazing he wasn't banged up for it. | |||
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