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By *olly Gentle Giant OP   Man
over a year ago

Glenrothes

It is right and proper to reflect. I remember at school studying the works of a correspondent: "Dulce et decnrum est ; pro patria mori" which translates as "a sweet and fitting thing it is ; to die for one's country ". Never has such a phrase been written which is so true and yet so false. Yes it is the ultimate honour and ultimate sacrifice to die fighting for righteousness and justice but spare a thought for those who survived the conflict and witnessed comrades fall because they didnt see the gas bomb hit the trenches or comrades who had incomplete battle armour. The phrase was written during WW1 if I recall. Have we really advanced any in 1OO years? Aye - dulce et decorum est ; pro patria mori.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

amen

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By *nTCouple
over a year ago

funland

we owe how we live our lives to those who lost theirs xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are dead; but they live in each Patriot's breast,

And their names are engraven on honor's bright crest !!!

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By *olly Gentle Giant OP   Man
over a year ago

Glenrothes

Wilfred Owen was the author - the full verse is below and is not for the feint hearted. There is nothing sweet and nothing fitting about death in the trenches.

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,

Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,

Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs

And towards our distant rest began to trudge.

Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots

But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;

D*unk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots

Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! Gas! Quick, boys! – An ecstasy of fumbling,

Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;

But someone still was yelling out and stumbling,

And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . .

Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,

As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,

He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace

Behind the wagon that we flung him in,

And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,

His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;

If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood

Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,

Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud(12)

Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,

My friend, you would not tell with such high zest

To children ardent for some desperate glory,

The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est

Pro patria mori.

Wilfred Owen

8 October 1917 - March, 1918

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