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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Basically i think im pretty understanding and accepting etc

but why as soon as you show that you believe there is male and female do the great unwashed come out the woodwork and whinge

im just wondering because usually these folk screaming just ti be accepted for who they are seem incapable of simply agreeing to disagree

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By *awty MaxWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

ok read it 3 times... I need google translate, I'll be back shortly!

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By *akeheelsTV/TS
over a year ago

Edinburghish

Is this a two sexes/ two gender thing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Basically i think im pretty understanding and accepting etc

but why as soon as you show that you believe there is male and female do the great unwashed come out the woodwork and whinge

im just wondering because usually these folk screaming just ti be accepted for who they are seem incapable of simply agreeing to disagree"

No idea what this means. Not even sure punctuation would help!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Hardly

its just a wee whinge about the acceptance brigade

lmao you just look at the apparent law against them in russia

you know the law actually had nothing to do with being gay or straight it was simply to stop the promotion of sexualisation to children

although that exponentially spreading 1970splague seem to think

that your irrationally afraid of them

X does that clarify any

I always just hope this is an example of a silebt majority with a small percentage of drama causing and seeking fairy lover people

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Is this a two sexes/ two gender thing?"

goes a bit deeper than that if im honest

you could identify as a millionaire for all I care

I still woildnt want to hear about your private life unless I was part of it

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By *awty MaxWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Basically i think im pretty understanding and accepting etc

but why as soon as you show that you believe there is male and female do the great unwashed come out the woodwork and whinge

im just wondering because usually these folk screaming just ti be accepted for who they are seem incapable of simply agreeing to disagree

No idea what this means. Not even sure punctuation would help!"

Glad it is not just me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gender identification?

If your a young adult id agree you can be whatever you choose to be but all this non gender clothing is getting a bit much.

Let girls born girls and boys born boys dress whatever they want to wear but putting a pink tutu on a boy going to primary school is only going to end up in that child being bullied.

Right or wrongly .

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By *akeheelsTV/TS
over a year ago

Edinburghish


"Is this a two sexes/ two gender thing?

goes a bit deeper than that if im honest

you could identify as a millionaire for all I care

I still woildnt want to hear about your private life unless I was part of it"

Cool. From here on in _akeheels, a sometimes bi crossdresser, identifies as a millionaire (shortbread).

Unless i upload a profile to a swinging site and post in the forums, you shall know nothing of my private life.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Gender identification?

If your a young adult id agree you can be whatever you choose to be but all this non gender clothing is getting a bit much.

Let girls born girls and boys born boys dress whatever they want to wear but putting a pink tutu on a boy going to primary school is only going to end up in that child being bullied.

Right or wrongly .

"

Never heard the johnny cash song

boy named sue

they would grow up badass

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

I'm still lost

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If i have interpreted this correctly I think he doth protest a bit much.

Is he having flashbacks to raking through his mums knickers drawer?

We are lucky to live in a time of positive change in a country that generally embraces it.

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By *ingle-minglerMan
over a year ago

balloch

I’m guessing, and I could be wrong here, he doesn’t like anyone who doesn’t conform to his norms.

The mention of Russian above and the justification for anyone who looks, acts or is thought off as gay being soundly beaten to within an inch of their lives gives it away.

I’m all for personal perspectives, but I’m also all for the right to live and let live, with one proviso, I don’t agree that a man who identifies as a women should be aloud to use a women’s toilet or changing area.

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By *ingle-minglerMan
over a year ago

balloch

*allowed

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By *44bertCouple
over a year ago

Inverness


"Hardly

its just a wee whinge about the acceptance brigade

lmao you just look at the apparent law against them in russia

you know the law actually had nothing to do with being gay or straight it was simply to stop the promotion of sexualisation to children

although that exponentially spreading 1970splague seem to think

that your irrationally afraid of them

X does that clarify any

I always just hope this is an example of a silebt majority with a small percentage of drama causing and seeking fairy lover people"

"acceptance brigade"

Why in the name of good fuck is acceptance a bad thing?

I'm with the post above - the lady doth protest too much.

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By *onkeymagic50Man
over a year ago

Near the harbour

Ok this beast my duck posts on getting folks to say wtf mushrooms did he have with his bacon

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By *e DevilMan
over a year ago

Blantyre


"I'm still lost "

Mi5 are going to hire this guy as a code breaker . To get the fathom of this thread is harder than the telegraph crossword. And i have never solved more than 4 words on that crossword. Max did google translate help any. ? . Best i sit this one out.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

Im guessing here but is your problem gender identificatoon?

To my mind folk seem to believe imo wrongly that gender is a sliding scale

I believe gender is biological not a "minset".

I have no problem with folk who wish to id as another sex just dont try to force me to conform with your perception

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By *rgoodnbadMan
over a year ago

greenock

Does anyone else remember clause/section 28 where the government tried to impose a ban on the 'promotion' of gay issues in schools? Think this poster may wish for a return to those days.

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By *awty MaxWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"I'm still lost

Mi5 are going to hire this guy as a code breaker . To get the fathom of this thread is harder than the telegraph crossword. And i have never solved more than 4 words on that crossword. Max did google translate help any. ? . Best i sit this one out. "

Google translate... No help at all!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is much debate about the issue of sexuality and gender identification. The recent Genderquake programmes were very interesting.

For my money most of us are born male or female i.e there is a very small percentage of people born with both genetalia. Aside from that the "sex" of a baby is scientific and has only two options.

As a child grows the issue of "gender" becomes more complex and nowadays we are in the throws of liberating people to allow them to be what they want/feel to be.

My distinction between "sex" and "gender" would be physical and psychological, though not sure everyone would agree with that. We now have a bewildering choice in "genderfluidity". LGBT doesn't even begin to cover it.

To me all of that really doesn't matter, it's about the person, how intelligent, trustworthy, honest, humourous and so on... in other words the character of that person.

The debate and arguement is from the insensitive way society and those in it deals with these issues and also the sensitivity of those that belong to a minority, if you have a complex sexuality then don't be offended I ask about it, it's not because I judge, I'm interested, I want to know and understand but I also appreciate that their are a lot of intolerant bigots out there too.

Hopefully the world will become a wee bit more tolerant and communicative on not just this but a number of other issues.

Wouldn't that be nice in the 21st Century

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By *e DevilMan
over a year ago

Blantyre


"Im guessing here but is your problem gender identificatoon?

To my mind folk seem to believe imo wrongly that gender is a sliding scale

I believe gender is biological not a "minset".

I have no problem with folk who wish to id as another sex just dont try to force me to conform with your perception"

If this thread is about gender ID then i gotta agree with horsey on this one.

Your either male or female thats fact . How you feel or make yourself look is entirely up to you and i respect your outlook on it but, what happens is some of these people think that because I see you as male or female only , its me that has a problem with gender id. These type of people take offence when they dont get treated like the gender they imagine in thier heads they are instead of being open minded like normal gender people are asked to do towards them. No chance should they be allowed to use opposite sex toilets or changing areas wrongly . Ie mens toilets for people that were BORN a male and vice versa. Act and do what you like but dont ask me to join in with your choices and dress up sessions each to thier own .

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By *iercedyvonneTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow


"There is much debate about the issue of sexuality and gender identification. The recent Genderquake programmes were very interesting.

For my money most of us are born male or female i.e there is a very small percentage of people born with both genetalia. Aside from that the "sex" of a baby is scientific and has only two options.

As a child grows the issue of "gender" becomes more complex and nowadays we are in the throws of liberating people to allow them to be what they want/feel to be.

My distinction between "sex" and "gender" would be physical and psychological, though not sure everyone would agree with that. We now have a bewildering choice in "genderfluidity". LGBT doesn't even begin to cover it.

To me all of that really doesn't matter, it's about the person, how intelligent, trustworthy, honest, humourous and so on... in other words the character of that person.

The debate and arguement is from the insensitive way society and those in it deals with these issues and also the sensitivity of those that belong to a minority, if you have a complex sexuality then don't be offended I ask about it, it's not because I judge, I'm interested, I want to know and understand but I also appreciate that their are a lot of intolerant bigots out there too.

Hopefully the world will become a wee bit more tolerant and communicative on not just this but a number of other issues.

Wouldn't that be nice in the 21st Century "

^^^^ THIS ^^^^

Most intelligent thing said on here possibly ever. And that's from me - a fully paid up member of the trans community.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is much debate about the issue of sexuality and gender identification. The recent Genderquake programmes were very interesting.

For my money most of us are born male or female i.e there is a very small percentage of people born with both genetalia. Aside from that the "sex" of a baby is scientific and has only two options.

As a child grows the issue of "gender" becomes more complex and nowadays we are in the throws of liberating people to allow them to be what they want/feel to be.

My distinction between "sex" and "gender" would be physical and psychological, though not sure everyone would agree with that. We now have a bewildering choice in "genderfluidity". LGBT doesn't even begin to cover it.

To me all of that really doesn't matter, it's about the person, how intelligent, trustworthy, honest, humourous and so on... in other words the character of that person.

The debate and arguement is from the insensitive way society and those in it deals with these issues and also the sensitivity of those that belong to a minority, if you have a complex sexuality then don't be offended I ask about it, it's not because I judge, I'm interested, I want to know and understand but I also appreciate that their are a lot of intolerant bigots out there too.

Hopefully the world will become a wee bit more tolerant and communicative on not just this but a number of other issues.

Wouldn't that be nice in the 21st Century

^^^^ THIS ^^^^

Most intelligent thing said on here possibly ever. And that's from me - a fully paid up member of the trans community."

Humbly chuffed you think so, thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a closet heterosexual and would take exception to my gender pigeonhole being probed unless you at least bought me a drink first.

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

Personally I couldn't give two flying fish about anyone else's sexuality, gender or preferences. Fair play to any who wants to live their lives they way the wish to live their lives, this includes the traditionalist man as a man, woman as a woman....too many people got to much to say about other peoples lives if you ask me.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"Personally I couldn't give two flying fish about anyone else's sexuality, gender or preferences. Fair play to any who wants to live their lives they way the wish to live their lives, this includes the traditionalist man as a man, woman as a woman....too many people got to much to say about other peoples lives if you ask me.

"
I think you miss the point moat folk couldnt care less about folks perceptions of themselves problems arise when that perception is attempted to be forced on others who dont agree with the perception

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow

To quote Burns “ A Man's a Man for a' that “ . We’re he alive today would it have too be , A person’ a person for a’ that ? There is a clash between all different folks idea’s of what to call each other , we are all human beings I don’t care which colour size sex or gender you are if your pleasant and fair to others they should be the same in return .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm still lost

Mi5 are going to hire this guy as a code breaker . To get the fathom of this thread is harder than the telegraph crossword. And i have never solved more than 4 words on that crossword. Max did google translate help any. ? . Best i sit this one out.

Google translate... No help at all!

"

I think Stephen Hawkings would have struggled with this one.

Going to give Yoda a call and see if he can help...

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By *onkeymagic50Man
over a year ago

Near the harbour


"Personally I couldn't give two flying fish about anyone else's sexuality, gender or preferences. Fair play to any who wants to live their lives they way the wish to live their lives, this includes the traditionalist man as a man, woman as a woman....too many people got to much to say about other peoples lives if you ask me.

I think you miss the point moat folk couldnt care less about folks perceptions of themselves problems arise when that perception is attempted to be forced on others who dont agree with the perception"

This is spot on .just because it is right doesn't mean everyone else has to think it's right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I couldn't give two flying fish about anyone else's sexuality, gender or preferences. Fair play to any who wants to live their lives they way the wish to live their lives, this includes the traditionalist man as a man, woman as a woman....too many people got to much to say about other peoples lives if you ask me.

I think you miss the point moat folk couldnt care less about folks perceptions of themselves problems arise when that perception is attempted to be forced on others who dont agree with the perception

This is spot on .just because it is right doesn't mean everyone else has to think it's right"

This is a very fair point, not everyone can agree and everyone is entitled to their opinions and choices in life. The problem arises when one section of the community persecutes another for being different. A lot of you are saying you dont agree with the current “gender confusion” and that you have zero interest in it. I will assume that also means you would happy for those with a more complex sexuality to express that. Your indifference comes from a place of privilaged acceptance re YOUR sexuality. Those in the LGBT commuity have and do suffer hatred and violence and THAT is the real issue. It applies to a lot more than sexuality too

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By *onkeymagic50Man
over a year ago

Near the harbour


"Personally I couldn't give two flying fish about anyone else's sexuality, gender or preferences. Fair play to any who wants to live their lives they way the wish to live their lives, this includes the traditionalist man as a man, woman as a woman....too many people got to much to say about other peoples lives if you ask me.

I think you miss the point moat folk couldnt care less about folks perceptions of themselves problems arise when that perception is attempted to be forced on others who dont agree with the perception

This is spot on .just because it is right doesn't mean everyone else has to think it's right

This is a very fair point, not everyone can agree and everyone is entitled to their opinions and choices in life. The problem arises when one section of the community persecutes another for being different. A lot of you are saying you dont agree with the current “gender confusion” and that you have zero interest in it. I will assume that also means you would happy for those with a more complex sexuality to express that. Your indifference comes from a place of privilaged acceptance re YOUR sexuality. Those in the LGBT commuity have and do suffer hatred and violence and THAT is the real issue. It applies to a lot more than sexuality too "

Not at all my brother is a screaming queen (Yes I know some in the lbg community find that reference to a very effeminate gay man offending) but he is what he his and long as he not offended because he very happy in his sexuality

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I couldn't give two flying fish about anyone else's sexuality, gender or preferences. Fair play to any who wants to live their lives they way the wish to live their lives, this includes the traditionalist man as a man, woman as a woman....too many people got to much to say about other peoples lives if you ask me.

I think you miss the point moat folk couldnt care less about folks perceptions of themselves problems arise when that perception is attempted to be forced on others who dont agree with the perception

This is spot on .just because it is right doesn't mean everyone else has to think it's right

This is a very fair point, not everyone can agree and everyone is entitled to their opinions and choices in life. The problem arises when one section of the community persecutes another for being different. A lot of you are saying you dont agree with the current “gender confusion” and that you have zero interest in it. I will assume that also means you would happy for those with a more complex sexuality to express that. Your indifference comes from a place of privilaged acceptance re YOUR sexuality. Those in the LGBT commuity have and do suffer hatred and violence and THAT is the real issue. It applies to a lot more than sexuality too

Not at all my brother is a screaming queen (Yes I know some in the lbg community find that reference to a very effeminate gay man offending) but he is what he his and long as he not offended because he very happy in his sexuality "

Lol Gas, exactly, that’s kinda my point, when there is no hatred or judgement in a name it becomes banter but alas there is a lot of hurt to be overcome and that’s totally understandable but there’s a ways to go eh? Plus there will always be those that seek controversy and strife. Not in fabland of course aherm corf corf

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By *ilveryFoxMan
over a year ago

Midlothian

My head hurts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My head hurts"

Passes Silvery a wee paracetamol

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By *ilveryFoxMan
over a year ago

Midlothian


"My head hurts

Passes Silvery a wee paracetamol "

Yes please, I’m off for a lie down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My head hurts

Passes Silvery a wee paracetamol

Yes please, I’m off for a lie down"

Lol, lucky you, I’m off too work (it really is tooooo nice for that)

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By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Hardly

its just a wee whinge about the acceptance brigade

lmao you just look at the apparent law against them in russia

you know the law actually had nothing to do with being gay or straight it was simply to stop the promotion of sexualisation to children

although that exponentially spreading 1970splague seem to think

that your irrationally afraid of them

X does that clarify any

I always just hope this is an example of a silebt majority with a small percentage of drama causing and seeking fairy lover people"

Hmmm, OK so you're quoting a law in Russia that caused people to be dragged from their homes, tortured and often killed. I get that you appear to be pretty homophobic (ew) but maybe you could clarify... Do you think there are only two genders? Or do you dislike the "other" sexualities, by this I mean non hetero.

Do you understand that gender identity is not the same as sexuality?

Also, it's not a new thing at all. It's just that it's now less likely that you will be vilified, attacked, orstracised or killed for being who you are.

You don't like it? OK.

Avoid it or ignore it. Don't go trawling the forums looking for justification for your prejudice.

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By *ickygirl41Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Hardly

its just a wee whinge about the acceptance brigade

lmao you just look at the apparent law against them in russia

you know the law actually had nothing to do with being gay or straight it was simply to stop the promotion of sexualisation to children

although that exponentially spreading 1970splague seem to think

that your irrationally afraid of them

X does that clarify any

I always just hope this is an example of a silebt majority with a small percentage of drama causing and seeking fairy lover people

Hmmm, OK so you're quoting a law in Russia that caused people to be dragged from their homes, tortured and often killed. I get that you appear to be pretty homophobic (ew) but maybe you could clarify... Do you think there are only two genders? Or do you dislike the "other" sexualities, by this I mean non hetero.

Do you understand that gender identity is not the same as sexuality?

Also, it's not a new thing at all. It's just that it's now less likely that you will be vilified, attacked, orstracised or killed for being who you are.

You don't like it? OK.

Avoid it or ignore it. Don't go trawling the forums looking for justification for your prejudice. "

Faugh! Misspelt ostracised

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