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"Has anyone had ever had the feeling that they think a colleague at work is trying to do a bit teasing. I'm kind of on that road but Im not sure mixing work and personal life is a good idea. Answers on a post card "Always go for it. Why not? Makes work far more fun. As long as there are no awkward power dynamics in play. Sure, it will most likely blow up in your face, but you can handle that I’m sure. Good luck | |||
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"Has anyone had ever had the feeling that they think a colleague at work is trying to do a bit teasing. I'm kind of on that road but Im not sure mixing work and personal life is a good idea. Answers on a post card "My answer is irrelevant. The question is... Do you need that job to keep a roof over yer heid?? | |||
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My answer is irrelevant. The question is... Do you need that job to keep a roof over yer heid??"I definitely do  | |||
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My answer is irrelevant. The question is... Do you need that job to keep a roof over yer heid??
I definitely do "So you know what to not do | |||
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My answer is irrelevant. The question is... Do you need that job to keep a roof over yer heid??
I definitely do
So you know what to not do "Im definitely trying not too Max | |||
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"Think this is one situation when you need to use your head and not your boabie. In my experience, it almost always ends in tears." Wise words from you and Max but love the way you put it... "not yer boabie" - made me smile but soooo true   | |||
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"Think this is one situation when you need to use your head and not your boabie. In my experience, it almost always ends in tears. Wise words from you and Max but love the way you put it... "not yer boabie" - made me smile but soooo true " | |||
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"Has anyone had ever had the feeling that they think a colleague at work is trying to do a bit teasing. I'm kind of on that road but Im not sure mixing work and personal life is a good idea. Answers on a post card
My answer is irrelevant. The question is... Do you need that job to keep a roof over yer heid??
I definitely do
So you know what to not do
Im definitely trying not too Max "I have a few suggestions that could help when you're having naughty thoughts at work but am trying to give a good impression on the forum lol  | |||
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"Has anyone had ever had the feeling that they think a colleague at work is trying to do a bit teasing. I'm kind of on that road but Im not sure mixing work and personal life is a good idea. Answers on a post card
My answer is irrelevant. The question is... Do you need that job to keep a roof over yer heid??
I definitely do
So you know what to not do
Im definitely trying not too Max
I have a few suggestions that could help when you're having naughty thoughts at work but am trying to give a good impression on the forum lol "Lol you can kik me them xx  | |||
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"Has anyone had ever had the feeling that they think a colleague at work is trying to do a bit teasing. I'm kind of on that road but Im not sure mixing work and personal life is a good idea. Answers on a post card
My answer is irrelevant. The question is... Do you need that job to keep a roof over yer heid??
I definitely do
So you know what to not do
Im definitely trying not too Max
I have a few suggestions that could help when you're having naughty thoughts at work but am trying to give a good impression on the forum lol "Only to the newbies us auld yins ken whit yer like . | |||
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"Has anyone had ever had the feeling that they think a colleague at work is trying to do a bit teasing. I'm kind of on that road but Im not sure mixing work and personal life is a good idea. Answers on a post card
My answer is irrelevant. The question is... Do you need that job to keep a roof over yer heid??
I definitely do
So you know what to not do
Im definitely trying not too Max
I have a few suggestions that could help when you're having naughty thoughts at work but am trying to give a good impression on the forum lol
Only to the newbies us auld yins ken whit yer like . "Sshhh  | |||
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"Has anyone had ever had the feeling that they think a colleague at work is trying to do a bit teasing. I'm kind of on that road but Im not sure mixing work and personal life is a good idea. Answers on a post card
My answer is irrelevant. The question is... Do you need that job to keep a roof over yer heid??
I definitely do
So you know what to not do
Im definitely trying not too Max
I have a few suggestions that could help when you're having naughty thoughts at work but am trying to give a good impression on the forum lol
Only to the newbies us auld yins ken whit yer like .
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"A bit of flirting and teasing at work ended up with me living with my boss for 25yrs. Trouble was he always acted as if he were my boss during that time. I now have many regrets." 25 yrr is still pretty good going though. I was thinking more along the lines of office flirting that then end up as a d*unken snog or ONS. Those involved usually regret it and other staff can even end up getting pissed off if there's an atmosphere. | |||
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"I work with 6 women, so probably not  "I only work with one man but he has a husband. | |||
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"Absolutely not as it would just end in disaster and I need my job more than anything else x"This | |||
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more .##### The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. ##### Go for it . !!! " your last paragraph regarding work I'm sorry, you can take it anyway you want but you are totally wrong If the type of work they do brings their work/company name into disrepute if they are found out to be swingers and or on a swinging site the company are obliged to take legal action as they see fit. The reason is bring their name into disrepute and thus they can lose and prove loss of business. .
To many people make comments in regards to things like this when they do not know the legal understanding or undertakings that are set I place when you are employed by a company you are affecting them good or bad in what you do and don't do. This is my understanding from family members who are and work in lawyers firms dealing with legal business issues.
Workers dealing with children, teachers, anyone having disclosure Scotland, doctors fall under this category and if they do not know or understand this then they best go and seek advice to make sure their legal views. Anyone is at risk who work for any company if they can prove that you are bring their company name into disrepute.
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more .##### The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. ##### Go for it . !!! your last paragraph regarding work I'm sorry, you can take it anyway you want but you are totally wrong If the type of work they do brings their work/company name into disrepute if they are found out to be swingers and or on a swinging site the company are obliged to take legal action as they see fit. The reason is bring their name into disrepute and thus they can lose and prove loss of business. .
To many people make comments in regards to things like this when they do not know the legal understanding or undertakings that are set I place when you are employed by a company you are affecting them good or bad in what you do and don't do. This is my understanding from family members who are and work in lawyers firms dealing with legal business issues.
Workers dealing with children, teachers, anyone having disclosure Scotland, doctors fall under this category and if they do not know or understand this then they best go and seek advice to make sure their legal views. Anyone is at risk who work for any company if they can prove that you are bring their company name into disrepute.
"I think the initial post was to do with flirting in the workplace and not about swinging or being on swingers sites. Therefore i feel its harmless fun which shouldnt really concern others. | |||
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! " I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all  x | |||
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all x"I believe in this situation if its only a normal relationship/flirting relationship, the work are allowed to question it if it can cause harm. I'm sure this is correct | |||
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more .##### The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. ##### Go for it . !!! your last paragraph regarding work I'm sorry, you can take it anyway you want but you are totally wrong If the type of work they do brings their work/company name into disrepute if they are found out to be swingers and or on a swinging site the company are obliged to take legal action as they see fit. The reason is bring their name into disrepute and thus they can lose and prove loss of business. .
To many people make comments in regards to things like this when they do not know the legal understanding or undertakings that are set I place when you are employed by a company you are affecting them good or bad in what you do and don't do. This is my understanding from family members who are and work in lawyers firms dealing with legal business issues.
Workers dealing with children, teachers, anyone having disclosure Scotland, doctors fall under this category and if they do not know or understand this then they best go and seek advice to make sure their legal views. Anyone is at risk who work for any company if they can prove that you are bring their company name into disrepute.
I think the initial post was to do with flirting in the workplace and not about swinging or being on swingers sites. Therefore i feel its harmless fun which shouldnt really concern others."Agreed, normal flirting will not affect work, well I hope not loll but if it does, the work can question and ask to know what is going on. Obviously if it leads to swinging and thus found out it can escalate.
Originally To OPs post I think its best not to do anything close to work, mainly that if it does not work out, it can be awkward for a long time and work standard can have a bad effect. But this type of thing happens all the time at work, works parties etc...
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all x
I believe in this situation if its only a normal relationship/flirting relationship, the work are allowed to question it if it can cause harm. I'm sure this is correct "Yes that most definitely is correct as my company have just introduced new policies and that was one of them x | |||
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"And if my work found out I was a swinger I would most definitely lose my job too and I probably wouldn't be able to get another Disclosure certificate either x"Shagging folk isn't against the law so it wouldn't affect a disclosure | |||
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all x
I believe in this situation if its only a normal relationship/flirting relationship, the work are allowed to question it if it can cause harm. I'm sure this is correct "Many workplaces are run by husband and wives today. Afterall this is 2018. As long as the work gets done and doesnt effect others work i dont see a problem. In my line of work the two colleagues tend to get put in seperate units which is silly as its not as if they are going to get naked and start shagging on the desk. | |||
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all x
I believe in this situation if its only a normal relationship/flirting relationship, the work are allowed to question it if it can cause harm. I'm sure this is correct
Yes that most definitely is correct as my company have just introduced new policies and that was one of them x"I'm positive this is a UK Government amendment for all UK companies a few years back when they can take action if their name is brought into disrepute by actions of their staff and management outside and inside of working hours. Also each company can change and amend the rules in anyway they want as long as they stay within the guidelines set by the government. | |||
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all x
I believe in this situation if its only a normal relationship/flirting relationship, the work are allowed to question it if it can cause harm. I'm sure this is correct
Many workplaces are run by husband and wives today. Afterall this is 2018. As long as the work gets done and doesnt effect others work i dont see a problem. In my line of work the two colleagues tend to get put in seperate units which is silly as its not as if they are going to get naked and start shagging on the desk."It's bound to affect the workplace in one way or another. If your two colleagues were separated at work then this was done so for a very good reason x | |||
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all x
I believe in this situation if its only a normal relationship/flirting relationship, the work are allowed to question it if it can cause harm. I'm sure this is correct
Yes that most definitely is correct as my company have just introduced new policies and that was one of them x
I'm positive this is a UK Government amendment for all UK companies a few years back when they can take action if their name is brought into disrepute by actions of their staff and management outside and inside of working hours. Also each company can change and amend the rules in anyway they want as long as they stay within the guidelines set by the government.
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all x
I believe in this situation if its only a normal relationship/flirting relationship, the work are allowed to question it if it can cause harm. I'm sure this is correct
Many workplaces are run by husband and wives today. Afterall this is 2018. As long as the work gets done and doesnt effect others work i dont see a problem. In my line of work the two colleagues tend to get put in seperate units which is silly as its not as if they are going to get naked and start shagging on the desk.". Agreed but that is a very small business so it would all be dealt with the husband and wife. I'm talking about businesses which are bigger for example I ran a partnership business which employed 50 workers and this would certainly have affected my business if it had been known I was a swinger. I also had female staff working under me and there was no way I was going to have any relationship whatsoever as it could harm the business if problems arose. | |||
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"ffs, I just read some of that back and it actually sounded like I had a brain. Honest it only happens to me every 20 years especially if it falls in on a Thursday the 13th  "You're two days out lollol x | |||
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all x
I believe in this situation if its only a normal relationship/flirting relationship, the work are allowed to question it if it can cause harm. I'm sure this is correct
Yes that most definitely is correct as my company have just introduced new policies and that was one of them x
I'm positive this is a UK Government amendment for all UK companies a few years back when they can take action if their name is brought into disrepute by actions of their staff and management outside and inside of working hours. Also each company can change and amend the rules in anyway they want as long as they stay within the guidelines set by the government.
"2 people having a relationship of any kind hardly consitutes bring the name of the company into disrepute. | |||
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"And it's all perfectly legal! (Apologies OP...im following the tangent on which your thread galloped off )" You are just stating things as you normally do without due care, saying its legal. (I could be wrong, you could be the head of some big legal firm so forgive me if I am wrong) I'm stating these things from FACT. from running a business with 50 workers. Someone else stating it because they work in the legal system. Relationships are formed all the time in business but where it can effect the business itself then it can be questioned FACT. The job that each person does could be come under effect because of said relationship where the company is allowed to look into it but companies do not look into all relationships as they know they don't effect the business. You have your view from your EXPERIENCE, I have my view from my Business EXPERIENCE and having to deal with legal matters for my company and the other poster is putting their EXPERIENCE from working in the legal field but you differ from both, which is not uncommon. I will say OP, you haven't said what kind of business your in, (unless I missed it then sorry), and your destination as well as your female colleges destination. There can be no problem what so ever but if you deal in a section of the job which is, I don't know, say wages, and your colleague does as well then it is allowed to be questioned by the company. If you work on a shop floor for example, on a conveyor belt and the female colleague is on another conveyor belt then there is little chance the company will question unless it openly shows the standard of work slipping. | |||
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"In some work places it is deemed un professional and then makes others vulnerable in situations same as family members cannot work in same areas or people who are in a relationship as it makes those individuals vulnerable should an incident occur what ever nature it may be. Or if an accusation is made against those 2 individuals. Guess it depends on line of work and how it will affect people around you. Would be deemed unprofessional in both our lines of work. There is that barrier line that should just not be crossed for professional boundaries "Agreed | |||
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all x
I believe in this situation if its only a normal relationship/flirting relationship, the work are allowed to question it if it can cause harm. I'm sure this is correct
Yes that most definitely is correct as my company have just introduced new policies and that was one of them x
I'm positive this is a UK Government amendment for all UK companies a few years back when they can take action if their name is brought into disrepute by actions of their staff and management outside and inside of working hours. Also each company can change and amend the rules in anyway they want as long as they stay within the guidelines set by the government.
2 people having a relationship of any kind hardly consitutes bring the name of the company into disrepute. "That is not what is said. You can bring the company name into disrepute if something happens because of said relationship, that is why a company are allowed legally to question it.
Again, I'll take part blame for the way you've understood it. I'm trying to convey something written what I know or believe and then someone reading it and their understanding of it is different from what's intended. That's on my side, trying to make it easy to be understood what it is meant to convey. | |||
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"The point I was making is that people within an organisation who are having some kind of sexual relationship are not bringing that organisation into disrepute simply by shagging each other. When you check back your facts( note...no caps lock)...you'll see you seemed to be suggesting that. Some folks are capable of sex without drama" I never said that; ###(people within an organisation who are having some kind of sexual relationship are not bringing that organisation into disrepute simply by shagging each other.) ### It was made quite clear what it is meant by what I have stated. You have either ignored it and tried to twist it or you have read it wrong or misunderstood it. In the past, if a basic relationship could have brought a company into disrepute if something happened during that relationship and or (shagging), that would effect the business name.... ( like a falling out and screaming names at each other at work or right outside of work) then this constitutes bringing the company into disrepute. Now with laws in place, companies are legally bound, maybe not bound but allowed to question ANY members of their staff if they are having a relationship of any kind incase it might effect the company name or work standard. BUT it is at the discretion of each company to deal with such matters, if and when they find out. | |||
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"And if my work found out I was a swinger I would most definitely lose my job too and I probably wouldn't be able to get another Disclosure certificate either x
Shagging folk isn't against the law so it wouldn't affect a disclosure "Presuming it was with enthusiastic consent | |||
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"It would affect a business...not effect it. And I think you'll find that no employer has any right to question an employee about a relationship UNLESS ( just so you can see it) said relationship causes workplace issues" Wasn’t that what horsey was saying | |||
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"And if my work found out I was a swinger I would most definitely lose my job too and I probably wouldn't be able to get another Disclosure certificate either x
Shagging folk isn't against the law so it wouldn't affect a disclosure
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"It would affect a business...not effect it. And I think you'll find that no employer has any right to question an employee about a relationship UNLESS ( just so you can see it) said relationship causes workplace issues" Again wrong, it was made simple in an earlier post but you chose to ignore it. If two people work in wages of a company, yes the company is allowed to question it before any problem to the company happens. Before companies could only intervene once a problem occurred with a relationship that affected their business. Now with new laws, companies are allowed to intervene before anything happens and question relationships. | |||
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"It would affect a business...not effect it. And I think you'll find that no employer has any right to question an employee about a relationship UNLESS ( just so you can see it) said relationship causes workplace issues Again wrong, it was made simple in an earlier post but you chose to ignore it. If two people work in wages of a company, yes the company is allowed to question it before any problem to the company happens. Before companies could only intervene once a problem occurred with a relationship that affected their business. Now with new laws, companies are allowed to intervene before anything happens and question relationships. "Not in my huuuuuge organisation. A savvy union would never consent to that level of intrusion | |||
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all x
I believe in this situation if its only a normal relationship/flirting relationship, the work are allowed to question it if it can cause harm. I'm sure this is correct
Yes that most definitely is correct as my company have just introduced new policies and that was one of them x
I'm positive this is a UK Government amendment for all UK companies a few years back when they can take action if their name is brought into disrepute by actions of their staff and management outside and inside of working hours. Also each company can change and amend the rules in anyway they want as long as they stay within the guidelines set by the government.
2 people having a relationship of any kind hardly consitutes bring the name of the company into disrepute.
That is not what is said. You can bring the company name into disrepute if something happens because of said relationship, that is why a company are allowed legally to question it.
Again, I'll take part blame for the way you've understood it. I'm trying to convey something written what I know or believe and then someone reading it and their understanding of it is different from what's intended. That's on my side, trying to make it easy to be understood what it is meant to convey. "They are not allowed to legally question it, If something happens because of said relationship, i.e victimisation, harrasement, bullying etc, then of course the company can act and discipline employees for it, but these rules apply for everyone, regardless of being in a workplace relationship or not. This is not enforced by the Government, but by workplace policy. A workplace would find it impossible to enforce a policy banning or questioning such relationships as it infringes against basic Human Rights, and can only issue Company Policy guidelines about such. | |||
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all x
I believe in this situation if its only a normal relationship/flirting relationship, the work are allowed to question it if it can cause harm. I'm sure this is correct
Yes that most definitely is correct as my company have just introduced new policies and that was one of them x
I'm positive this is a UK Government amendment for all UK companies a few years back when they can take action if their name is brought into disrepute by actions of their staff and management outside and inside of working hours. Also each company can change and amend the rules in anyway they want as long as they stay within the guidelines set by the government.
2 people having a relationship of any kind hardly consitutes bring the name of the company into disrepute.
That is not what is said. You can bring the company name into disrepute if something happens because of said relationship, that is why a company are allowed legally to question it.
Again, I'll take part blame for the way you've understood it. I'm trying to convey something written what I know or believe and then someone reading it and their understanding of it is different from what's intended. That's on my side, trying to make it easy to be understood what it is meant to convey.
They are not allowed to legally question it, If something happens because of said relationship, i.e victimisation, harrasement, bullying etc, then of course the company can act and discipline employees for it, but these rules apply for everyone, regardless of being in a workplace relationship or not. This is not enforced by the Government, but by workplace policy. A workplace would find it impossible to enforce a policy banning or questioning such relationships as it infringes against basic Human Rights, and can only issue Company Policy guidelines about such. "It’s not the relationship part that’s an issue if I’m reading this correctly. It’s inappropriate behaviour during and after which could affect a company??? | |||
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"It would affect a business...not effect it. And I think you'll find that no employer has any right to question an employee about a relationship UNLESS ( just so you can see it) said relationship causes workplace issues Again wrong, it was made simple in an earlier post but you chose to ignore it. If two people work in wages of a company, yes the company is allowed to question it before any problem to the company happens. Before companies could only intervene once a problem occurred with a relationship that affected their business. Now with new laws, companies are allowed to intervene before anything happens and question relationships.
Not in my huuuuuge organisation.
A savvy union would never consent to that level of intrusion"ffs its law. You always make a comment and quite a lot of time its unfounded. Its law and you are choosing to ignore it just to keep arguing. OP you or anyone who has a relationship of any kind with a work colleague do so at their own risk, nothing may happen depending on the job or the company but it has happened in the past. FACT there was a female from FAB who was put on suspension by her company investigating her swinging activities, 3 months ago. She got her job back as they found it did not affect the company name or business. Think the investigation took 10 days if I remember correctly. Normal relationships of any kind can be and are allowed to be looked at by a company if they deem there is a possible breach that can result in the company being brought into disrepute.
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all x
I believe in this situation if its only a normal relationship/flirting relationship, the work are allowed to question it if it can cause harm. I'm sure this is correct
Yes that most definitely is correct as my company have just introduced new policies and that was one of them x
I'm positive this is a UK Government amendment for all UK companies a few years back when they can take action if their name is brought into disrepute by actions of their staff and management outside and inside of working hours. Also each company can change and amend the rules in anyway they want as long as they stay within the guidelines set by the government.
2 people having a relationship of any kind hardly consitutes bring the name of the company into disrepute.
That is not what is said. You can bring the company name into disrepute if something happens because of said relationship, that is why a company are allowed legally to question it.
Again, I'll take part blame for the way you've understood it. I'm trying to convey something written what I know or believe and then someone reading it and their understanding of it is different from what's intended. That's on my side, trying to make it easy to be understood what it is meant to convey.
They are not allowed to legally question it, If something happens because of said relationship, i.e victimisation, harrasement, bullying etc, then of course the company can act and discipline employees for it, but these rules apply for everyone, regardless of being in a workplace relationship or not. This is not enforced by the Government, but by workplace policy. A workplace would find it impossible to enforce a policy banning or questioning such relationships as it infringes against basic Human Rights, and can only issue Company Policy guidelines about such.
It’s not the relationship part that’s an issue if I’m reading this correctly. It’s inappropriate behaviour during and after which could affect a company??? "Yes and that is why companies are legally allowed to question any relationship before a potential problem starts/arises Sorry, had to reply there lollll | |||
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all x
I believe in this situation if its only a normal relationship/flirting relationship, the work are allowed to question it if it can cause harm. I'm sure this is correct
Yes that most definitely is correct as my company have just introduced new policies and that was one of them x"Ask a question maybe , prevent it no chance. | |||
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"If your genuinely single then go for it . YOU ARE SINGLE whats the problem. If the other person has an issues after the fact then its their problem not yours. As long as the female understands exactly what it is, ie fun between the sheets , nothing more . The work dynamics have nothing to do with it ie if she is your boss or you are hers . Its nothing to do with work. Go for it . !!! I wouldn't normally say anymore on the subject but I just saw what you said and totally disagree. You're allowed you're opinion and that's fine but as I work in the legal profession, I have to say that even if you are two single people working in the same office, it is highly unacceptable to form relationships at work and it would be questioned as to whether or not the two parties can work together and remain professional. Then there's the issue of their fellow colleagues and how they feel towards working with the two people in question. There are a lot of factors to take into consideration and a company legal, or otherwise would simply advise against this happening at all x
I believe in this situation if its only a normal relationship/flirting relationship, the work are allowed to question it if it can cause harm. I'm sure this is correct
Yes that most definitely is correct as my company have just introduced new policies and that was one of them x
I'm positive this is a UK Government amendment for all UK companies a few years back when they can take action if their name is brought into disrepute by actions of their staff and management outside and inside of working hours. Also each company can change and amend the rules in anyway they want as long as they stay within the guidelines set by the government.
2 people having a relationship of any kind hardly consitutes bring the name of the company into disrepute.
That is not what is said. You can bring the company name into disrepute if something happens because of said relationship, that is why a company are allowed legally to question it.
Again, I'll take part blame for the way you've understood it. I'm trying to convey something written what I know or believe and then someone reading it and their understanding of it is different from what's intended. That's on my side, trying to make it easy to be understood what it is meant to convey.
They are not allowed to legally question it, If something happens because of said relationship, i.e victimisation, harrasement, bullying etc, then of course the company can act and discipline employees for it, but these rules apply for everyone, regardless of being in a workplace relationship or not. This is not enforced by the Government, but by workplace policy. A workplace would find it impossible to enforce a policy banning or questioning such relationships as it infringes against basic Human Rights, and can only issue Company Policy guidelines about such.
It’s not the relationship part that’s an issue if I’m reading this correctly. It’s inappropriate behaviour during and after which could affect a company??? "Agree any inappropriate behaviour ie sexual harasment , bullying or lewd comments or unwanted attention could be resulting in disciplinary action. | |||
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"It would affect a business...not effect it. And I think you'll find that no employer has any right to question an employee about a relationship UNLESS ( just so you can see it) said relationship causes workplace issues Again wrong, it was made simple in an earlier post but you chose to ignore it. If two people work in wages of a company, yes the company is allowed to question it before any problem to the company happens. Before companies could only intervene once a problem occurred with a relationship that affected their business. Now with new laws, companies are allowed to intervene before anything happens and question relationships.
Not in my huuuuuge organisation.
A savvy union would never consent to that level of intrusion
ffs its law. You always make a comment and quite a lot of time its unfounded.
Its law and you are choosing to ignore it just to keep arguing.
OP you or anyone who has a relationship of any kind with a work colleague do so at their own risk, nothing may happen depending on the job or the company but it has happened in the past.
FACT there was a female from FAB who was put on suspension by her company investigating her swinging activities, 3 months ago. She got her job back as they found it did not affect the company name or business. Think the investigation took 10 days if I remember correctly.
Normal relationships of any kind can be and are allowed to be looked at by a company if they deem there is a possible breach that can result in the company being brought into disrepute.
I'm leaving it at that as I have made my point clear from my experience and seeing other companies fall under these sorts of problems. "Haha you quoted a fact that someone was suspended then said she was let back to work . Nothing to do with the company reputation , probably more to to with the fact swinging is not illegal so has feck all to do with the company. | |||
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"Ah you win... Me...i'll carry on shagging who I please safe in the knowledge that nobody within my huuuuuge organisation gives enough of a fuck to dare question me about it. That's how us professionals roll in the real world "On a positive note, i wish i worked in the same place as you lady. I could see us heating up the HR department very quickly. Ten days suspension on full pay before being reinstated, think what we could do in TEN days . X | |||
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"On this occasion I'm keeping it in my boxer's "Heard it! | |||
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" Someone please enlighten me with a FACT AND PROOF that someone lost their job through a relationship with a collegue. Someone said early doors that being found out as a swinger would have lost 40 odd people their jobs , have to say find it very hard to believe. Feel free to pm the details of that job so i could possibly concede your point as i cant think of any possible job that it would result in 40 plus losses because the boss is a swinger. " That was his illfated antiswinging foundation. You can see the press release at www.usethechuteinstead.org/news | |||
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" Someone please enlighten me with a FACT AND PROOF that someone lost their job through a relationship with a collegue. Someone said early doors that being found out as a swinger would have lost 40 odd people their jobs , have to say find it very hard to believe. Feel free to pm the details of that job so i could possibly concede your point as i cant think of any possible job that it would result in 40 plus losses because the boss is a swinger. That was his illfated antiswinging foundation. You can see the press release at www.usethechuteinstead.org/news" Lol yep then he decided , if you cant beat em join em lol. | |||
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"If I can politely say once again... It’s not the relationship part that’s an issue if I’m reading this correctly. It’s inappropriate behaviour during and after which could affect a company. I think everyone understands relationships (serious AND flirty) happen at work. The problem lies when they go sour and there is bad feeling OR they are inappropriate in some way. If that bad feeling between two people or the nature of the relationship impacts negatively on a business or its reputation then the employer can take action to protect his business. A bit like if you wear a uniform, your employer would take a very dim view of an employee getting d*unk, being offensive and abusive whilst wearing said uniform. Behaving like that out of uniform is still unacceptable but does not impact the employer directly. Phew, bet the OP had changed his mind though " | |||
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Heard it!
Im trying "Ok thats you been trying for 42 minutes
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"I never mix business with pleasure. That’s just me though. "I never mix Fab with pleasure. | |||
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"On this occasion I'm keeping it in my boxer's
Heard it!
Im trying
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Get in that work and go do some damage "He's been awfy quiet. Shagging in the broom cupboard? | |||
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"On this occasion I'm keeping it in my boxer's
Heard it!
Im trying
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Get in that work and go do some damage
He's been awfy quiet. Shagging in the broom cupboard?"Im still here and no done it yet | |||
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"On this occasion I'm keeping it in my boxer's
Heard it!
Im trying
Ok thats you been trying for 42 minutes
Get in that work and go do some damage
He's been awfy quiet. Shagging in the broom cupboard?
Im still here and no done it yet "Goooooo for it lol. We want details lol. If your still traumatised from the earlier posts advising against it go onto google and research the REAL facts of what an employer can and cannot do whether they have illegal company policies or not. When you finish your research im sure you will be humping everything with a pulse in that work of yours lmao. Remember safe sex only lol. | |||
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"On this occasion I'm keeping it in my boxer's
Heard it!
Im trying
Ok thats you been trying for 42 minutes
Get in that work and go do some damage
He's been awfy quiet. Shagging in the broom cupboard?
Im still here and no done it yet
Goooooo for it lol. We want details lol. If your still traumatised from the earlier posts advising against it go onto google and research the REAL facts of what an employer can and cannot do whether they have illegal company policies or not. When you finish your research im sure you will be humping everything with a pulse in that work of yours lmao. Remember safe sex only lol. "Lol lol I genuinely don't think I will be doing it | |||
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"I have to say i stopped reading the crap posted on this thread regarding company policy , government rules disclosure scotland bla blah blah. 1 i have a disclosure scotland myself and being a swinger would NOT affect it one iota. 2 companies cannot put policies in place where people cant have a relationship. 3 companies cannot say swinging will compromise there business as its NOT illegal. 4 even in the army male and females soldiers in the same UNIT can have a relationship and even have a baby together, ps trust us on this we KNOW and no imaginary government rules in place to prevent this. Someone please enlighten me with a FACT AND PROOF that someone lost their job through a relationship with a collegue. Someone said early doors that being found out as a swinger would have lost 40 odd people their jobs , have to say find it very hard to believe. Feel free to pm the details of that job so i could possibly concede your point as i cant think of any possible job that it would result in 40 plus losses because the boss is a swinger. " | |||
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"So this will manage to alienate me from most of the forum users on my first post but here goes anyway OP there is a saying "dont sh*t where you eat" ... you should think about how much you like or need your job and how much you like the person really before bringing a mess right to your door step ... if you think its mutual attraction and your looking for something real then yeah why not ... if you just want a fuck surely it makes more sense to get that on tinder from someone non work related ... much less risk there of them crying harassment and it coming back to bite you. In response to some of the other posts 1. The OP never mentioned swinging ... everyone else made that assumption and that he would bring the company into disrepute ...despite this being fabswingers it doesn't consume every part of our lives 2. Being a swinger is not illegal and doesn't make you a predator so it would have no impact whatsoever on the ability to obtain a clean disclosure. If even people who are actually part of the scene think this then what chance have you got of "general society" dropping the stigma. 3. Relationships at work are not illegal or something you can be sacked for unless its explicitly in your contract for no workplace relations. 90% of the women i know met their significant other through work so not sure why so many seem to think its such a bad thing. You also cant be sacked for a break up with someone you work with either no matter how messy it gets at home. The only thing you can be disciplined / dismissed for is inappropriate behaviour in the work place or while representing your work ... be that shagging while at work / or in public place if its a works party (this happened at my company) or the flip side and being unprofessional following the breakdown of a relationship. Your company can however move you to another role if for example your job requires segregation of duties and it creates opportunity for collusion if you work in the same team. 4. Horsey ... you repeatedly talk about this partnership you had with 50 staff and how you being outed as a swinger would have meant they all lost their jobs. Im sorry but I am calling BS. Even if the "scandal" tarnished your reputation and that rubbed off a little onto the company, unless you were in the business of selling holy water to catholic nuns then i thinks its a massive exaggeration to suggest that you would lose every contract and have to shut down. When i look for a tradesman/ lawyer/ retail outlet (pretty much anything) i really couldn't care less who the boss shags if i get what i want and get it at a good price. 5. Despite all those other things I said, i happen to know a member of our team is shagging our married boss and while it makes for great office gossip I think its really wrong and it definitely makes for a situation where she gets away with murder and appears to be beyond reproach so i really don't agree with it " I never mentioned swinging. Think it was my second post on here where I made the point that I would always avoid work romances ( unless it was true love!)as it can change the whole atmosphere in the workplace and even folk not involved can end up pissed off. Anyway, Billy is a big boy and will do as he sees fit I'm sure. | |||
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"So this will manage to alienate me from most of the forum users on my first post but here goes anyway OP there is a saying "dont sh*t where you eat" ... you should think about how much you like or need your job and how much you like the person really before bringing a mess right to your door step ... if you think its mutual attraction and your looking for something real then yeah why not ... if you just want a fuck surely it makes more sense to get that on tinder from someone non work related ... much less risk there of them crying harassment and it coming back to bite you. In response to some of the other posts 1. The OP never mentioned swinging ... everyone else made that assumption and that he would bring the company into disrepute ...despite this being fabswingers it doesn't consume every part of our lives 2. Being a swinger is not illegal and doesn't make you a predator so it would have no impact whatsoever on the ability to obtain a clean disclosure. If even people who are actually part of the scene think this then what chance have you got of "general society" dropping the stigma. 3. Relationships at work are not illegal or something you can be sacked for unless its explicitly in your contract for no workplace relations. 90% of the women i know met their significant other through work so not sure why so many seem to think its such a bad thing. You also cant be sacked for a break up with someone you work with either no matter how messy it gets at home. The only thing you can be disciplined / dismissed for is inappropriate behaviour in the work place or while representing your work ... be that shagging while at work / or in public place if its a works party (this happened at my company) or the flip side and being unprofessional following the breakdown of a relationship. Your company can however move you to another role if for example your job requires segregation of duties and it creates opportunity for collusion if you work in the same team. 4. Horsey ... you repeatedly talk about this partnership you had with 50 staff and how you being outed as a swinger would have meant they all lost their jobs. Im sorry but I am calling BS. Even if the "scandal" tarnished your reputation and that rubbed off a little onto the company, unless you were in the business of selling holy water to catholic nuns then i thinks its a massive exaggeration to suggest that you would lose every contract and have to shut down. When i look for a tradesman/ lawyer/ retail outlet (pretty much anything) i really couldn't care less who the boss shags if i get what i want and get it at a good price. 5. Despite all those other things I said, i happen to know a member of our team is shagging our married boss and while it makes for great office gossip I think its really wrong and it definitely makes for a situation where she gets away with murder and appears to be beyond reproach so i really don't agree with it " This post will not alienate you as what you say is fact apart from the horsey part lol. I never went as far as calling bs on his post but i never got a pm on it either so i could say ok i believe you horsey, so it still sounds like bs. As for the ops question everyone has there own viewpoint on whether or not to do it and thats fine , its when you get the doom n gloom brigade spinning up false stories of disclosures and jobs at risk etc etc i cant abide with . Croc of chit tbh. | |||
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"Go for it, I’ve been playing with work colleagues for s cereal years, never a tear yet, but lots of fun in places that we shouldn’t have "You durty barista! | |||
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"Go for it, I’ve been playing with work colleagues for s cereal years, never a tear yet, but lots of fun in places that we shouldn’t have
You durty barista! " | |||
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"Flogging a dead horse has never been so apt" pmsllllll, some people canny hawd it in ehhh. I'm sure you must know a few like that lollllll | |||
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"Flogging a dead horse has never been so apt pmsllllll, some people canny hawd it in ehhh. I'm sure you must know a few like that lollllll" You have repeated the same diatribe despite several folks on the thread pointing out the inaccuracies in your absurd claims Yeah...laugh | |||
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" The swinging part of this post wasn't started by me but I joined in. " Actually your first post (which was the first reply to OP) mentioned what would happen if you were caught on fab (insinuating swinging) And your second post was the first to actually use the word swinging Before that people were only talking about work place relations being complicated " I wont name the type of business but it would be common sense to understand why this could happy. You stated that you do not know any job that could cause this problem as you did in past post. The FACT is there are jobs like this of which you do not know of or chose to ignore. " If you cant even name the industry to prove your point i still call bs " Information: As far as I'm aware, If you are a swinger and get caught dogging by police, you are then charged of which it will be placed on your disclosure clearance once checked. " You dont seem to be able to disconnect dogging and swinging ... both are very different interests ... one is legal... one is not And if the teacher was a swinger (not a dogger) yes they would likely unfortunately be pressured out of their role but it wouldn't show on a disclosure and they can't be sacked as they havent actually done anything wrong but enjoy multiple sexual partners in their own spare time | |||
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"I have pointed out several times now that Swinging, flirting, sexual liaisons etc are not illegal and nor can anyone tell you who to have a relationship with or how. However, WHEN or IF that impacts on your employer THAT is the problem and THAT is when he/she will call upon a legal stance. THAT is what horsey, cate and some others are trying to point out as a CONSEQUENCE. Everyone has free will to do what they want and some employers may be more relaxed than others but a most would treat it negatively. If Swinging was accepted we would all have open profiles with real names, it isn’t. In the eyes of society it’s shameful. I wonder if those here that are promoting a “I can do what I like, my work doesn’t care” attitude would make it plain knowledge that they do swing... "If you actually read what they have written properly, it's pretty clear to see that's not what they have pointed out at all | |||
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"I have pointed out several times now that Swinging, flirting, sexual liaisons etc are not illegal and nor can anyone tell you who to have a relationship with or how. However, WHEN or IF that impacts on your employer THAT is the problem and THAT is when he/she will call upon a legal stance. THAT is what horsey, cate and some others are trying to point out as a CONSEQUENCE. Everyone has free will to do what they want and some employers may be more relaxed than others but a most would treat it negatively. If Swinging was accepted we would all have open profiles with real names, it isn’t. In the eyes of society it’s shameful. I wonder if those here that are promoting a “I can do what I like, my work doesn’t care” attitude would make it plain knowledge that they do swing...
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"Nobody said society wouldnt judge you or that you should shout it from the rooftop ... We merely pointed out there is a big difference between being "shamed" and having a criminal record ... and that a little "shame" on a boss who is only 1 half of a partnership is not likely to sink a 50 employee company "Agreed but the stigma can still affect business, contacts etc negatively. Some points above are about law on human rights I.e no one can stop you having sex or a relationship with another person... true and it’s a right which is and should be protected. Likewise an employer should be protected from an employee that brings his company into a negative light with their PRIVATE lifestyle, and they are. All good My point is it’s easy to see where BOTH are coming from (pun intended) | |||
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"Keeping it as friendly as possible , myself and others with the same viewpoint are only contesting the legality point of view. IF a relationship at work started causing problems at work ie arguments or position of authority issues etc , of course the work can take action, but the action taken will be against the behaviour of individuals not the relationship. Horsey in answer to your long winded answer youve dodged the question of how you could lose contracts because your a swinger. Also you tried to back up earler claims pointed out since your recent post by introducing dogging to the equation. If we keep going like this we will be at teachers showing kids how to make pipe bombs , yes your right they just may lose their jobs on this scenario. Google the information yourself folks , try case law or .gov or any workers rights / investigations sites. You wont find any history of being sacked for being in a relationship with a co worker or being a sacked for being a swinger. " I see your point but in saying that I think everyone is saying the same thing in a way... no one is saying you can be sacked or treated negatively legally - however business runs on more than just official relationships and activities like swinging or just not getting on are also real factors... therefore having employees that do things others find not acceptable socially such as swinging or even just have a relationship that fails leaving bad feeling which impacts on the them and the rest of the workplace can be deemed inappropriate by SOME employers ... surely that can be agreed on just as the right to do what you want with who you want can be agreed on. | |||
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"Keeping it as friendly as possible , myself and others with the same viewpoint are only contesting the legality point of view. IF a relationship at work started causing problems at work ie arguments or position of authority issues etc , of course the work can take action, but the action taken will be against the behaviour of individuals not the relationship. Horsey in answer to your long winded answer youve dodged the question of how you could lose contracts because your a swinger. Also you tried to back up earler claims pointed out since your recent post by introducing dogging to the equation. If we keep going like this we will be at teachers showing kids how to make pipe bombs , yes your right they just may lose their jobs on this scenario. Google the information yourself folks , try case law or .gov or any workers rights / investigations sites. You wont find any history of being sacked for being in a relationship with a co worker or being a sacked for being a swinger. I see your point but in saying that I think everyone is saying the same thing in a way... no one is saying you can be sacked or treated negatively legally - however business runs on more than just official relationships and activities like swinging or just not getting on are also real factors... therefore having employees that do things others find not acceptable socially such as swinging or even just have a relationship that fails leaving bad feeling which impacts on the them and the rest of the workplace can be deemed inappropriate by SOME employers ... surely that can be agreed on just as the right to do what you want with who you want can be agreed on. " Absolutely agreed , the minute it starts affecting work then employers absolutely do have a legal right to step in but our outcry was the way the horror stories of sackings and rules stating you cannot have a relationship and disclosure cancelations etc would happen if you humped a co worker. Thats why i got myself in a flap lol. Some people cant accept there is a difference of companies preventing a relationship (illegal) with companies acting on various possible scenarios affecting work after maybe a relationship breaking down . (Legal). | |||
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"Keeping it as friendly as possible , myself and others with the same viewpoint are only contesting the legality point of view. IF a relationship at work started causing problems at work ie arguments or position of authority issues etc , of course the work can take action, but the action taken will be against the behaviour of individuals not the relationship. Horsey in answer to your long winded answer youve dodged the question of how you could lose contracts because your a swinger. Also you tried to back up earler claims pointed out since your recent post by introducing dogging to the equation. If we keep going like this we will be at teachers showing kids how to make pipe bombs , yes your right they just may lose their jobs on this scenario. Google the information yourself folks , try case law or .gov or any workers rights / investigations sites. You wont find any history of being sacked for being in a relationship with a co worker or being a sacked for being a swinger. " Keeping it as friendly as possible. I've not named individuals and saying what they say is BS, (hope not, never lower myself to that level) and I'll still remain that type of person. I haven't ignored anything anyone have said or others, I've taken it on board. if I do not know that field and make a comment on it then I will make sure people know I'm not fully aware of the facts or how it operates but all the stuff I have commented on, I am aware of and know of. But Honestly why are you saying that I've dodged the question, you know I haven't, its clear as day "Horsey in answer to your long winded answer youve dodged the question of how you could lose contracts because your a swinger " . I've already stated its companies who would cancel contract with us because I was involved in this lifestyle and they cannot be seen to consorting with people of that nature. My company was a partnership, meaning joint owner, so no one could take action against me except my partner, (if he found out contracts were lost because of me swinging), because of my actions but it was unknown to him as well of my lifestyle. All he would have known is that if we lost contracts and when if asked why I'm sure the companies would have said. There's other people on here saying exact same as me but you just choosing to pick on only parts of what I say when you know its wrong in context.... Saying that I said swinging was illegal, (never said that). saying I'm dodging the question (when I haven't, just not naming the business). you also said; You wont find any history of being sacked for being in a relationship with a co worker or being a sacked for being a swinger. (but I never said that, its the actions swinging encompasses that are the problem.) (if caught playing on cam, dogging, playing in a club and some how a photograph taken etc.. that's the problem and sensitive in certain jobs) I never said you can be sacked for being in a relationship or being a swinger, its the 'actions' that swinging encompasses. How the feck can that be misinterpreted but it has been on here by either unknowingly or just to shit stir. If you are in a sensitive job working with children and on fab, for example on cam, playing with your cock or pussy or involved in a gangbang on cam or dogging, (all part of swinging) then if found out and brought to the attention of a business whose nature can then deemed to put them in disrepute. If a teacher is caught dogging, part of swinging now, then she/he will be charged and it goes on their disclosure and I guarantee they will lose their job. How the hell can you disagree with that. The pipe bomb comment I really don't get why you said that, it doesn't make any of your comments more real. The other girl who made the accusation about me not naming the company, ffs, I'm not going to as the business is still going and I will not name it. Would she come out and just put her name, place of work and her designation in that work, no she wouldn't so is she BS, Would you?, would any of us? No we wouldn't, so why am I going to do so by naming the company or as she said the type of business which there isn't many doing it. She also said on the first post "Actually your first post (which was the first reply to OP) mentioned what would happen if you were caught on fab (insinuating swinging) " but the full sentence was "The business I ran with a partnership if anyone knew about me being on fab I would have lost contracts and thus at least 45 works would have lost their job." I just didn't go into detail how it would come about. Anyone who knew me as in 'people of the companies' who we had contracts with. ffsss my bad, but.... I didn't think I would have to spell everything out but if people who have a dislike of me or someone will ignore all the comments and put in only what they want. I cant do anything about that nor will I. I'd rather let it run its course as I am clearly not being single minded and not making mis-comments about anyone and you can tell I'm taking everything on board what is being said. Some people on here are not. p.s. Someone said he never had a pm, did you forget that you have single guys blocked. It's like an accusation against me which is untrue when its impossible for me to pm and I only commented when I did because that was the first time I was back on fab
I would prefer that this was left as my views are from experience and will not change. Most of views people have said I agree with its just wrong comments or understanding the wrong way that as intended that I have had to comment on.
I won't comment again on this post but any cpls or single females can ask me about any of my points personally in a message if they want before they post, what maybe a wrong comment or understanding.
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"Keeping it as friendly as possible , myself and others with the same viewpoint are only contesting the legality point of view. IF a relationship at work started causing problems at work ie arguments or position of authority issues etc , of course the work can take action, but the action taken will be against the behaviour of individuals not the relationship. Horsey in answer to your long winded answer youve dodged the question of how you could lose contracts because your a swinger. Also you tried to back up earler claims pointed out since your recent post by introducing dogging to the equation. If we keep going like this we will be at teachers showing kids how to make pipe bombs , yes your right they just may lose their jobs on this scenario. Google the information yourself folks , try case law or .gov or any workers rights / investigations sites. You wont find any history of being sacked for being in a relationship with a co worker or being a sacked for being a swinger. I see your point but in saying that I think everyone is saying the same thing in a way... no one is saying you can be sacked or treated negatively legally - however business runs on more than just official relationships and activities like swinging or just not getting on are also real factors... therefore having employees that do things others find not acceptable socially such as swinging or even just have a relationship that fails leaving bad feeling which impacts on the them and the rest of the workplace can be deemed inappropriate by SOME employers ... surely that can be agreed on just as the right to do what you want with who you want can be agreed on. Absolutely agreed , the minute it starts affecting work then employers absolutely do have a legal right to step in but our outcry was the way the horror stories of sackings and rules stating you cannot have a relationship and disclosure cancelations etc would happen if you humped a co worker. Thats why i got myself in a flap lol. Some people cant accept there is a difference of companies preventing a relationship (illegal) with companies acting on various possible scenarios affecting work after maybe a relationship breaking down . (Legal)." Thanks - yes both are valid and there to protect employee and employer in whatever eventuality. Sometimes the employee is the victim sometimes the employer is - all depending on circumstances - it just seemed folk were not understanding that the innocent party needs protecting no matter who they were lol xxx | |||
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"Keeping it as friendly as possible , myself and others with the same viewpoint are only contesting the legality point of view. IF a relationship at work started causing problems at work ie arguments or position of authority issues etc , of course the work can take action, but the action taken will be against the behaviour of individuals not the relationship. Horsey in answer to your long winded answer youve dodged the question of how you could lose contracts because your a swinger. Also you tried to back up earler claims pointed out since your recent post by introducing dogging to the equation. If we keep going like this we will be at teachers showing kids how to make pipe bombs , yes your right they just may lose their jobs on this scenario. Google the information yourself folks , try case law or .gov or any workers rights / investigations sites. You wont find any history of being sacked for being in a relationship with a co worker or being a sacked for being a swinger. Keeping it as friendly as possible. I've not named individuals and saying what they say is BS, (hope not, never lower myself to that level) and I'll still remain that type of person. I haven't ignored anything anyone have said or others, I've taken it on board. if I do not know that field and make a comment on it then I will make sure people know I'm not fully aware of the facts or how it operates but all the stuff I have commented on, I am aware of and know of. But Honestly why are you saying that I've dodged the question, you know I haven't, its clear as day Horsey in answer to your long winded answer youve dodged the question of how you could lose contracts because your a swinger . I've already stated its companies who would cancel contract with us because I was involved in this lifestyle and they cannot be seen to consorting with people of that nature. My company was a partnership, meaning joint owner, so no one could take action against me except my partner, (if he found out contracts were lost because of me swinging), because of my actions but it was unknown to him as well of my lifestyle. All he would have known is that if we lost contracts and when if asked why I'm sure the companies would have said. There's other people on here saying exact same as me but you just choosing to pick on only parts of what I say when you know its wrong in context.... Saying that I said swinging was illegal, (never said that). saying I'm dodging the question (when I haven't, just not naming the business). you also said; You wont find any history of being sacked for being in a relationship with a co worker or being a sacked for being a swinger. (but I never said that, its the actions swinging encompasses that are the problem.) (if caught playing on cam, dogging, playing in a club and some how a photograph taken etc.. that's the problem and sensitive in certain jobs) I never said you can be sacked for being in a relationship or being a swinger, its the 'actions' that swinging encompasses. How the feck can that be misinterpreted but it has been on here by either unknowingly or just to shit stir. If you are in a sensitive job working with children and on fab, for example on cam, playing with your cock or pussy or involved in a gangbang on cam or dogging, (all part of swinging) then if found out and brought to the attention of a business whose nature can then deemed to put them in disrepute. If a teacher is caught dogging, part of swinging now, then she/he will be charged and it goes on their disclosure and I guarantee they will lose their job. How the hell can you disagree with that. The pipe bomb comment I really don't get why you said that, it doesn't make any of your comments more real. The other girl who made the accusation about me not naming the company, ffs, I'm not going to as the business is still going and I will not name it. Would she come out and just put her name, place of work and her designation in that work, no she wouldn't so is she BS, Would you?, would any of us? No we wouldn't, so why am I going to do so by naming the company or as she said the type of business which there isn't many doing it. She also said on the first post Actually your first post (which was the first reply to OP) mentioned what would happen if you were caught on fab (insinuating swinging) but the full sentence wasThe business I ran with a partnership if anyone knew about me being on fab I would have lost contracts and thus at least 45 works would have lost their job. I just didn't go into detail how it would come about. Anyone who knew me as in 'people of the companies' who we had contracts with. ffsss my bad, but.... I didn't think I would have to spell everything out but if people who have a dislike of me or someone will ignore all the comments and put in only what they want. I cant do anything about that nor will I. I'd rather let it run its course as I am clearly not being single minded and not making mis-comments about anyone and you can tell I'm taking everything on board what is being said. Some people on here are not. p.s. Someone said he never had a pm, did you forget that you have single guys blocked. It's like an accusation against me which is untrue when its impossible for me to pm and I only commented when I did because that was the first time I was back on fab
I would prefer that this was left as my views are from experience and will not change. Most of views people have said I agree with its just wrong comments or understanding the wrong way that as intended that I have had to comment on.
I won't comment again on this post but any cpls or single females can ask me about any of my points personally in a message if they want before they post, what maybe a wrong comment or understanding.
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"Keeping it as friendly as possible , myself and others with the same viewpoint are only contesting the legality point of view. IF a relationship at work started causing problems at work ie arguments or position of authority issues etc , of course the work can take action, but the action taken will be against the behaviour of individuals not the relationship. Horsey in answer to your long winded answer youve dodged the question of how you could lose contracts because your a swinger. Also you tried to back up earler claims pointed out since your recent post by introducing dogging to the equation. If we keep going like this we will be at teachers showing kids how to make pipe bombs , yes your right they just may lose their jobs on this scenario. Google the information yourself folks , try case law or .gov or any workers rights / investigations sites. You wont find any history of being sacked for being in a relationship with a co worker or being a sacked for being a swinger. Keeping it as friendly as possible. I've not named individuals and saying what they say is BS, (hope not, never lower myself to that level) and I'll still remain that type of person. I haven't ignored anything anyone have said or others, I've taken it on board. if I do not know that field and make a comment on it then I will make sure people know I'm not fully aware of the facts or how it operates but all the stuff I have commented on, I am aware of and know of. But Honestly why are you saying that I've dodged the question, you know I haven't, its clear as day Horsey in answer to your long winded answer youve dodged the question of how you could lose contracts because your a swinger . I've already stated its companies who would cancel contract with us because I was involved in this lifestyle and they cannot be seen to consorting with people of that nature. My company was a partnership, meaning joint owner, so no one could take action against me except my partner, (if he found out contracts were lost because of me swinging), because of my actions but it was unknown to him as well of my lifestyle. All he would have known is that if we lost contracts and when if asked why I'm sure the companies would have said. There's other people on here saying exact same as me but you just choosing to pick on only parts of what I say when you know its wrong in context.... Saying that I said swinging was illegal, (never said that). saying I'm dodging the question (when I haven't, just not naming the business). you also said; You wont find any history of being sacked for being in a relationship with a co worker or being a sacked for being a swinger. (but I never said that, its the actions swinging encompasses that are the problem.) (if caught playing on cam, dogging, playing in a club and some how a photograph taken etc.. that's the problem and sensitive in certain jobs) I never said you can be sacked for being in a relationship or being a swinger, its the 'actions' that swinging encompasses. How the feck can that be misinterpreted but it has been on here by either unknowingly or just to shit stir. If you are in a sensitive job working with children and on fab, for example on cam, playing with your cock or pussy or involved in a gangbang on cam or dogging, (all part of swinging) then if found out and brought to the attention of a business whose nature can then deemed to put them in disrepute. If a teacher is caught dogging, part of swinging now, then she/he will be charged and it goes on their disclosure and I guarantee they will lose their job. How the hell can you disagree with that. The pipe bomb comment I really don't get why you said that, it doesn't make any of your comments more real. The other girl who made the accusation about me not naming the company, ffs, I'm not going to as the business is still going and I will not name it. Would she come out and just put her name, place of work and her designation in that work, no she wouldn't so is she BS, Would you?, would any of us? No we wouldn't, so why am I going to do so by naming the company or as she said the type of business which there isn't many doing it. She also said on the first post Actually your first post (which was the first reply to OP) mentioned what would happen if you were caught on fab (insinuating swinging) but the full sentence wasThe business I ran with a partnership if anyone knew about me being on fab I would have lost contracts and thus at least 45 works would have lost their job. I just didn't go into detail how it would come about. Anyone who knew me as in 'people of the companies' who we had contracts with. ffsss my bad, but.... I didn't think I would have to spell everything out but if people who have a dislike of me or someone will ignore all the comments and put in only what they want. I cant do anything about that nor will I. I'd rather let it run its course as I am clearly not being single minded and not making mis-comments about anyone and you can tell I'm taking everything on board what is being said. Some people on here are not. p.s. Someone said he never had a pm, did you forget that you have single guys blocked. It's like an accusation against me which is untrue when its impossible for me to pm and I only commented when I did because that was the first time I was back on fab
I would prefer that this was left as my views are from experience and will not change. Most of views people have said I agree with its just wrong comments or understanding the wrong way that as intended that I have had to comment on.
I won't comment again on this post but any cpls or single females can ask me about any of my points personally in a message if they want before they post, what maybe a wrong comment or understanding.
You've always tried to see both viewpoints horsey - and thanks for this post - you've went to great lengths to explain and done so fairly and diplomatically xxx"He has gone to great lengths agreed. He is STILL associating swinging with dogging, camming , pulling yer tadger on video etc , that is not the definition of swinging or what swinging is about. Because a website called Fab swingers includes all these options does not give you the right to say they are part of a swingers lifestyle and hence can be punished by your employer or gain undue sanctions . In your example a teacher on cam pulling their puddin should be dealt with appropriately and i totally agree but a swinger teacher having fun behind closed doors with other adults is an invation of privacy and has nothing to do with the school. You said you thought if someone was arrested for dogging it might affect a disclosure, of course it would affect a disclosure thats because dogging is illegal UNLIKE swinging which is NOT illegal. You have also harped on in loads of your posts that companies can LEGALLY question relationships in a workplace , try to get this , they have NO legal right to question a relationship or prevent it. For the last time hopefully i accept your point that they can act on innapropriate actions at work because of a relationship ie shagging , touching, arguing etc BECAUSE it affects work or collegues. And before you tell me a relationship could affect other employees thats tough titty on them dosnt mean a company has a right to question it ,again unless productivity is affected. Its like banging yer head against a brick wall here. | |||
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"Keeping it as friendly as possible , myself and others with the same viewpoint are only contesting the legality point of view. IF a relationship at work started causing problems at work ie arguments or position of authority issues etc , of course the work can take action, but the action taken will be against the behaviour of individuals not the relationship. Horsey in answer to your long winded answer youve dodged the question of how you could lose contracts because your a swinger. Also you tried to back up earler claims pointed out since your recent post by introducing dogging to the equation. If we keep going like this we will be at teachers showing kids how to make pipe bombs , yes your right they just may lose their jobs on this scenario. Google the information yourself folks , try case law or .gov or any workers rights / investigations sites. You wont find any history of being sacked for being in a relationship with a co worker or being a sacked for being a swinger. Keeping it as friendly as possible. I've not named individuals and saying what they say is BS, (hope not, never lower myself to that level) and I'll still remain that type of person. I haven't ignored anything anyone have said or others, I've taken it on board. if I do not know that field and make a comment on it then I will make sure people know I'm not fully aware of the facts or how it operates but all the stuff I have commented on, I am aware of and know of. But Honestly why are you saying that I've dodged the question, you know I haven't, its clear as day Horsey in answer to your long winded answer youve dodged the question of how you could lose contracts because your a swinger . I've already stated its companies who would cancel contract with us because I was involved in this lifestyle and they cannot be seen to consorting with people of that nature. My company was a partnership, meaning joint owner, so no one could take action against me except my partner, (if he found out contracts were lost because of me swinging), because of my actions but it was unknown to him as well of my lifestyle. All he would have known is that if we lost contracts and when if asked why I'm sure the companies would have said. There's other people on here saying exact same as me but you just choosing to pick on only parts of what I say when you know its wrong in context.... Saying that I said swinging was illegal, (never said that). saying I'm dodging the question (when I haven't, just not naming the business). you also said; You wont find any history of being sacked for being in a relationship with a co worker or being a sacked for being a swinger. (but I never said that, its the actions swinging encompasses that are the problem.) (if caught playing on cam, dogging, playing in a club and some how a photograph taken etc.. that's the problem and sensitive in certain jobs) I never said you can be sacked for being in a relationship or being a swinger, its the 'actions' that swinging encompasses. How the feck can that be misinterpreted but it has been on here by either unknowingly or just to shit stir. If you are in a sensitive job working with children and on fab, for example on cam, playing with your cock or pussy or involved in a gangbang on cam or dogging, (all part of swinging) then if found out and brought to the attention of a business whose nature can then deemed to put them in disrepute. If a teacher is caught dogging, part of swinging now, then she/he will be charged and it goes on their disclosure and I guarantee they will lose their job. How the hell can you disagree with that. The pipe bomb comment I really don't get why you said that, it doesn't make any of your comments more real. The other girl who made the accusation about me not naming the company, ffs, I'm not going to as the business is still going and I will not name it. Would she come out and just put her name, place of work and her designation in that work, no she wouldn't so is she BS, Would you?, would any of us? No we wouldn't, so why am I going to do so by naming the company or as she said the type of business which there isn't many doing it. She also said on the first post Actually your first post (which was the first reply to OP) mentioned what would happen if you were caught on fab (insinuating swinging) but the full sentence wasThe business I ran with a partnership if anyone knew about me being on fab I would have lost contracts and thus at least 45 works would have lost their job. I just didn't go into detail how it would come about. Anyone who knew me as in 'people of the companies' who we had contracts with. ffsss my bad, but.... I didn't think I would have to spell everything out but if people who have a dislike of me or someone will ignore all the comments and put in only what they want. I cant do anything about that nor will I. I'd rather let it run its course as I am clearly not being single minded and not making mis-comments about anyone and you can tell I'm taking everything on board what is being said. Some people on here are not. p.s. Someone said he never had a pm, did you forget that you have single guys blocked. It's like an accusation against me which is untrue when its impossible for me to pm and I only commented when I did because that was the first time I was back on fab
I would prefer that this was left as my views are from experience and will not change. Most of views people have said I agree with its just wrong comments or understanding the wrong way that as intended that I have had to comment on.
I won't comment again on this post but any cpls or single females can ask me about any of my points personally in a message if they want before they post, what maybe a wrong comment or understanding.
You've always tried to see both viewpoints horsey - and thanks for this post - you've went to great lengths to explain and done so fairly and diplomatically xxx
He has gone to great lengths agreed. He is STILL associating swinging with dogging, camming , pulling yer tadger on video etc , that is not the definition of swinging or what swinging is about. Because a website called Fab swingers includes all these options does not give you the right to say they are part of a swingers lifestyle and hence can be punished by your employer or gain undue sanctions . In your example a teacher on cam pulling their puddin should be dealt with appropriately and i totally agree but a swinger teacher having fun behind closed doors with other adults is an invation of privacy and has nothing to do with the school. You said you thought if someone was arrested for dogging it might affect a disclosure, of course it would affect a disclosure thats because dogging is illegal UNLIKE swinging which is NOT illegal. You have also harped on in loads of your posts that companies can LEGALLY question relationships in a workplace , try to get this , they have NO legal right to question a relationship or prevent it. For the last time hopefully i accept your point that they can act on innapropriate actions at work because of a relationship ie shagging , touching, arguing etc BECAUSE it affects work or collegues. And before you tell me a relationship could affect other employees thats tough titty on them dosnt mean a company has a right to question it ,again unless productivity is affected. Its like banging yer head against a brick wall here." and like listening to a politician "if i use enough words when i talk around this point maybe people wont realise i am trying to deny something they can see in black and white i said 5 minutes ago"
You seem to be taking the hit for my comments devil sorry about that
Ps H ... since i know you are a fan of capital letters to make your point ... i said name your INDUSTRY ... wouldnt ever ask you to name your company and people are hardly going to track you down from things like.... education, building trade, financial services, civil service, hospitality, retail, distribution... .. but of course being obtuse to that helps serve your point better | |||
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"Keeping it as friendly as possible , myself and others with the same viewpoint are only contesting the legality point of view. IF a relationship at work started causing problems at work ie arguments or position of authority issues etc , of course the work can take action, but the action taken will be against the behaviour of individuals not the relationship. Horsey in answer to your long winded answer youve dodged the question of how you could lose contracts because your a swinger. Also you tried to back up earler claims pointed out since your recent post by introducing dogging to the equation. If we keep going like this we will be at teachers showing kids how to make pipe bombs , yes your right they just may lose their jobs on this scenario. Google the information yourself folks , try case law or .gov or any workers rights / investigations sites. You wont find any history of being sacked for being in a relationship with a co worker or being a sacked for being a swinger. Keeping it as friendly as possible. I've not named individuals and saying what they say is BS, (hope not, never lower myself to that level) and I'll still remain that type of person. I haven't ignored anything anyone have said or others, I've taken it on board. if I do not know that field and make a comment on it then I will make sure people know I'm not fully aware of the facts or how it operates but all the stuff I have commented on, I am aware of and know of. But Honestly why are you saying that I've dodged the question, you know I haven't, its clear as day Horsey in answer to your long winded answer youve dodged the question of how you could lose contracts because your a swinger . I've already stated its companies who would cancel contract with us because I was involved in this lifestyle and they cannot be seen to consorting with people of that nature. My company was a partnership, meaning joint owner, so no one could take action against me except my partner, (if he found out contracts were lost because of me swinging), because of my actions but it was unknown to him as well of my lifestyle. All he would have known is that if we lost contracts and when if asked why I'm sure the companies would have said. There's other people on here saying exact same as me but you just choosing to pick on only parts of what I say when you know its wrong in context.... Saying that I said swinging was illegal, (never said that). saying I'm dodging the question (when I haven't, just not naming the business). you also said; You wont find any history of being sacked for being in a relationship with a co worker or being a sacked for being a swinger. (but I never said that, its the actions swinging encompasses that are the problem.) (if caught playing on cam, dogging, playing in a club and some how a photograph taken etc.. that's the problem and sensitive in certain jobs) I never said you can be sacked for being in a relationship or being a swinger, its the 'actions' that swinging encompasses. How the feck can that be misinterpreted but it has been on here by either unknowingly or just to shit stir. If you are in a sensitive job working with children and on fab, for example on cam, playing with your cock or pussy or involved in a gangbang on cam or dogging, (all part of swinging) then if found out and brought to the attention of a business whose nature can then deemed to put them in disrepute. If a teacher is caught dogging, part of swinging now, then she/he will be charged and it goes on their disclosure and I guarantee they will lose their job. How the hell can you disagree with that. The pipe bomb comment I really don't get why you said that, it doesn't make any of your comments more real. The other girl who made the accusation about me not naming the company, ffs, I'm not going to as the business is still going and I will not name it. Would she come out and just put her name, place of work and her designation in that work, no she wouldn't so is she BS, Would you?, would any of us? No we wouldn't, so why am I going to do so by naming the company or as she said the type of business which there isn't many doing it. She also said on the first post Actually your first post (which was the first reply to OP) mentioned what would happen if you were caught on fab (insinuating swinging) but the full sentence wasThe business I ran with a partnership if anyone knew about me being on fab I would have lost contracts and thus at least 45 works would have lost their job. I just didn't go into detail how it would come about. Anyone who knew me as in 'people of the companies' who we had contracts with. ffsss my bad, but.... I didn't think I would have to spell everything out but if people who have a dislike of me or someone will ignore all the comments and put in only what they want. I cant do anything about that nor will I. I'd rather let it run its course as I am clearly not being single minded and not making mis-comments about anyone and you can tell I'm taking everything on board what is being said. Some people on here are not. p.s. Someone said he never had a pm, did you forget that you have single guys blocked. It's like an accusation against me which is untrue when its impossible for me to pm and I only commented when I did because that was the first time I was back on fab
I would prefer that this was left as my views are from experience and will not change. Most of views people have said I agree with its just wrong comments or understanding the wrong way that as intended that I have had to comment on.
I won't comment again on this post but any cpls or single females can ask me about any of my points personally in a message if they want before they post, what maybe a wrong comment or understanding.
You've always tried to see both viewpoints horsey - and thanks for this post - you've went to great lengths to explain and done so fairly and diplomatically xxx
He has gone to great lengths agreed. He is STILL associating swinging with dogging, camming , pulling yer tadger on video etc , that is not the definition of swinging or what swinging is about. Because a website called Fab swingers includes all these options does not give you the right to say they are part of a swingers lifestyle and hence can be punished by your employer or gain undue sanctions . In your example a teacher on cam pulling their puddin should be dealt with appropriately and i totally agree but a swinger teacher having fun behind closed doors with other adults is an invation of privacy and has nothing to do with the school. You said you thought if someone was arrested for dogging it might affect a disclosure, of course it would affect a disclosure thats because dogging is illegal UNLIKE swinging which is NOT illegal. You have also harped on in loads of your posts that companies can LEGALLY question relationships in a workplace , try to get this , they have NO legal right to question a relationship or prevent it. For the last time hopefully i accept your point that they can act on innapropriate actions at work because of a relationship ie shagging , touching, arguing etc BECAUSE it affects work or collegues. And before you tell me a relationship could affect other employees thats tough titty on them dosnt mean a company has a right to question it ,again unless productivity is affected. Its like banging yer head against a brick wall here.
and like listening to a politician "if i use enough words when i talk around this point maybe people wont realise i am trying to deny something they can see in black and white i said 5 minutes ago"
You seem to be taking the hit for my comments devil sorry about that
Ps H ... since i know you are a fan of capital letters to make your point ... i said name your INDUSTRY ... wouldnt ever ask you to name your company and people are hardly going to track you down from things like.... education, building trade, financial services, civil service, hospitality, retail, distribution... .. but of course being obtuse to that helps serve your point better "Ah no worries , we have history about having different viewpoints me and mr h. It is never personal but he does like to elaborate his point and i always bite with a reply but im probably the same at times to. On calling bs on him i cant help that as he never proves me wrong with a plausible industry or job title. His job examples so far have used illegal activities to make the point . Another thread where we wont see eye to eye i guess. As last time bud this is not personal i promise you , i just seem to differ with you on lots of subjects. We may very well cross paths at a social sometime and i will be happy to buy you a beer. Just dont mention about 658 different topics . Who won last years tiddly wink world championship should probably be a safe topic for us . | |||
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Well do us all a favour and pick a bone at work and report back if you ended up drinking red red wine if you catch my drift"Oh that's long since been ticked off my to do list! Still picking up a pay cheque and not a giro | |||
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"Can't believe this thread is still going! We've all had our say, let's leave it at that lol and breathe!! x"To be fair cate, if people had just replied with a yes i would go for it or oh no that behaviour is not for me this thread would have been dead long ago. But what people did was spout horror stories and untruths to make thier views the only sensible option for the OP as the consequences could be dire , yourself included cate by introducing disclosures to the topic . Others only stood up and said your wrong, thats why it escalated. | |||
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"Can't believe this thread is still going! We've all had our say, let's leave it at that lol and breathe!! x
To be fair cate, if people had just replied with a yes i would go for it or oh no that behaviour is not for me this thread would have been dead long ago. But what people did was spout horror stories and untruths to make thier views the only sensible option for the OP as the consequences could be dire , yourself included cate by introducing disclosures to the topic . Others only stood up and said your wrong, thats why it escalated."I wasn't the only one who voiced my opinion and looking at the messages, nobody actually mentioned me by name until you just now x | |||
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"Can't believe this thread is still going! We've all had our say, let's leave it at that lol and breathe!! x
To be fair cate, if people had just replied with a yes i would go for it or oh no that behaviour is not for me this thread would have been dead long ago. But what people did was spout horror stories and untruths to make thier views the only sensible option for the OP as the consequences could be dire , yourself included cate by introducing disclosures to the topic . Others only stood up and said your wrong, thats why it escalated.
I wasn't the only one who voiced my opinion and looking at the messages, nobody actually mentioned me by name until you just now x"Have you just realised what you said further back was wholly inaccurate? | |||
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"Can't believe this thread is still going! We've all had our say, let's leave it at that lol and breathe!! x
To be fair cate, if people had just replied with a yes i would go for it or oh no that behaviour is not for me this thread would have been dead long ago. But what people did was spout horror stories and untruths to make thier views the only sensible option for the OP as the consequences could be dire , yourself included cate by introducing disclosures to the topic . Others only stood up and said your wrong, thats why it escalated.
I wasn't the only one who voiced my opinion and looking at the messages, nobody actually mentioned me by name until you just now x
Have you just realised what you said further back was wholly inaccurate?"Quite a few people on here we're like that. I only voiced my opinion! Jeezo leave me alone!! x | |||
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"Can't believe this thread is still going! We've all had our say, let's leave it at that lol and breathe!! x
To be fair cate, if people had just replied with a yes i would go for it or oh no that behaviour is not for me this thread would have been dead long ago. But what people did was spout horror stories and untruths to make thier views the only sensible option for the OP as the consequences could be dire , yourself included cate by introducing disclosures to the topic . Others only stood up and said your wrong, thats why it escalated.
I wasn't the only one who voiced my opinion and looking at the messages, nobody actually mentioned me by name until you just now x
Have you just realised what you said further back was wholly inaccurate?
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"Can't believe this thread is still going! We've all had our say, let's leave it at that lol and breathe!! x
To be fair cate, if people had just replied with a yes i would go for it or oh no that behaviour is not for me this thread would have been dead long ago. But what people did was spout horror stories and untruths to make thier views the only sensible option for the OP as the consequences could be dire , yourself included cate by introducing disclosures to the topic . Others only stood up and said your wrong, thats why it escalated.
I wasn't the only one who voiced my opinion and looking at the messages, nobody actually mentioned me by name until you just now x
Have you just realised what you said further back was wholly inaccurate?
Quite a few people on here we're like that. I only voiced my opinion! Jeezo leave me alone!! x
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