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"I’d prefer a post for each date. For me it’s more a discussion about clubs rather than an advert. Cjs does have their own website and it’s not them that start the threads in the forum. " Thats a very fair assessment. | |||
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"I’d prefer a post for each date. For me it’s more a discussion about clubs rather than an advert. Cjs does have their own website and it’s inot them that start the threads in the forum. Thats a very fair assessment. " What he said ???? | |||
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"I’d prefer a post for each date. For me it’s more a discussion about clubs rather than an advert. Cjs does have their own website and it’s not them that start the threads in the forum. Thats a very fair assessment. " Hear hear! Think it would be very interesting if admin was to do something about this, which may make people think twice about putting up anything about cj's x | |||
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"I’d prefer a post for each date. For me it’s more a discussion about clubs rather than an advert. Cjs does have their own website and it’s not them that start the threads in the forum. " what he said | |||
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"I’d prefer a post for each date. For me it’s more a discussion about clubs rather than an advert. Cjs does have their own website and it’s not them that start the threads in the forum. Thats a very fair assessment. Hear hear! Think it would be very interesting if admin was to do something about this, which may make people think twice about putting up anything about cj's x" Admin are happy to go with majority Cate x | |||
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"I’d prefer a post for each date. For me it’s more a discussion about clubs rather than an advert. Cjs does have their own website and it’s not them that start the threads in the forum. Thats a very fair assessment. Hear hear! Think it would be very interesting if admin was to do something about this, which may make people think twice about putting up anything about cj's x Admin are happy to go with majority Cate x" That's cool. Just hope you don't get into trouble Mr C x | |||
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"It would have to be one thread each date though and once the date reached the thread shut so it cant be bumped." What about all the posts that come after the event? Quite often see people still chatting about the saturday on the sunday monday and if the thread gets closed then they would need a second thread for that ... i dont think leaving threads open and them getting bumped was ever the issue .. It was a combination of there being multiple events in one week (it was open more over xmas holidays so more dates to talk about), newbies asking for advice on the place (not about a specific date) and people not familiar with the forum opening new threads rather than check what was already there ( happens with all topics not just clubs and no solution will stop this anyway)... it all resulted in there being more posts than usual and a site user (who has now left) starting an extra thread to moan about it | |||
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"It would have to be one thread each date though and once the date reached the thread shut so it cant be bumped. What about all the posts that come after the event? Quite often see people still chatting about the saturday on the sunday monday and if the thread gets closed then they would need a second thread for that ... i dont think leaving threads open and them getting bumped was ever the issue .. It was a combination of there being multiple events in one week (it was open more over xmas holidays so more dates to talk about), newbies asking for advice on the place (not about a specific date) and people not familiar with the forum opening new threads rather than check what was already there ( happens with all topics not just clubs and no solution will stop this anyway)... it all resulted in there being more posts than usual and a site user (who has now left) starting an extra thread to moan about it " Costa and ourselves spoke with admin and they were very accommodating, hence why we have this opportunity to voice our wishes going forward. You are correct, people did discuss their visit to a club after the event just like socials. Since admin have been so approachable on the club issues i would be hopeful they would close the thread on the Monday after the event. Most of these type threads do fade away anyway after that time. Thats not official by the way just a suggestion. | |||
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"Thread per date for me!! ( bet you weren't expecting that )" Biggest surprise of the thread so far | |||
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"Have them in the club thread forum and not the scottish one" That kinda talk will get you lynched | |||
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"The club section where it belongs " Totally respect your opinion don't get me wrong. However, can I just point out that if it remains/goes in the Club discussion section... 'You' (people with this opinion) are asking us (Club goers) to scroll past numerous UK related threads that are of no interest to Cj's or After8 attendees! 'You' are asking us to scroll past and ignore! Ok!? But... Why can't you do the same on the Scottish forum?! It is a smaller scale, easy to ignore threads that are not for you! Where 'You' do not have to scroll past lots of all over the UK threads! Am I seeing this situation right?! Hope this makes sense! | |||
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"Seperate threads for us. The same thread is a pain. Xx" Agreed!! | |||
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"To be fair to the comments of people complaining about threads, it was becoming a problem as there were many threads even for the same date sp why the one thread was trialed Anyway will leave it for the rest of the day for anyone else to comment and then as mentioned will go with what the majority want " Thanks RD, nice to being able to have all points of views listened too! | |||
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"The club section where it belongs Totally respect your opinion don't get me wrong. However, can I just point out that if it remains/goes in the Club discussion section... 'You' (people with this opinion) are asking us (Club goers) to scroll past numerous UK related threads that are of no interest to Cj's or After8 attendees! 'You' are asking us to scroll past and ignore! Ok!? But... Why can't you do the same on the Scottish forum?! It is a smaller scale, easy to ignore threads that are not for you! Where 'You' do not have to scroll past lots of all over the UK threads! Am I seeing this situation right?! Hope this makes sense! " i attend cjs i don't see why it cant go into the club section though as that's what it is ,and i don't see the point why everyone seems to be bothering over it .Go turn up and see who's there .Check the website to see whats on it really is that easy | |||
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"The club section where it belongs Totally respect your opinion don't get me wrong. However, can I just point out that if it remains/goes in the Club discussion section... 'You' (people with this opinion) are asking us (Club goers) to scroll past numerous UK related threads that are of no interest to Cj's or After8 attendees! 'You' are asking us to scroll past and ignore! Ok!? But... Why can't you do the same on the Scottish forum?! It is a smaller scale, easy to ignore threads that are not for you! Where 'You' do not have to scroll past lots of all over the UK threads! Am I seeing this situation right?! Hope this makes sense! i attend cjs i don't see why it cant go into the club section though as that's what it is ,and i don't see the point why everyone seems to be bothering over it .Go turn up and see who's there .Check the website to see whats on it really is that easy " Not everyone does it like you and I lol Perso, I go alone and am happy to see who is there on the night!! However...Some people prefer to socialise with others before going or arranged to meet at the club or start chatting on here and take it from there once at the Club! So many people using those threads differently! Anyway! We will be fixed later lol Have a great Sunday and maybe catch you at Cjs one night | |||
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"The club section where it belongs Totally respect your opinion don't get me wrong. However, can I just point out that if it remains/goes in the Club discussion section... 'You' (people with this opinion) are asking us (Club goers) to scroll past numerous UK related threads that are of no interest to Cj's or After8 attendees! 'You' are asking us to scroll past and ignore! Ok!? But... Why can't you do the same on the Scottish forum?! It is a smaller scale, easy to ignore threads that are not for you! Where 'You' do not have to scroll past lots of all over the UK threads! Am I seeing this situation right?! Hope this makes sense! " Just type in cjs in the forum search bar and the posts will come up so that's easy sorted | |||
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"I’d prefer a post for each date. For me it’s more a discussion about clubs rather than an advert. Cjs does have their own website and it’s not them that start the threads in the forum. " | |||
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"But a social post only sticks to 1 post Not 3 or 4 different post about who's all going?" Agreed. But you have aberdeen socials glasgow socials dundee socials etc etc sometimes all at the same time . If it was in a Scotland social thread only you see where the confusion starts | |||
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"Everyone please remember this vote is not about the bigger group of people forcing a minority group to do what we say because we have the numbers. This is about a larger group of people who hate the current format of 1 thread fits all and asking everyone else, hey folks would you mind just skipping past the club threads that dont interest you as im sure you do with lots of other threads. Hope this helps you understand our wishes . Social nights have great numerous people interested but would people want them to dissapear to the meets and events section of Fab ? Where they would need to look for a thread as opposed to it being right there in the Scotland forum ." with you Devil | |||
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"Separate dates is my preference but could they stay up for 24 hours after the date as it allows people to make further comments. " This | |||
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"Ok looks like most want to go back to dated threads So everyone can be happy please search the forum before you start your date thread so you don't duplicate it please and try not to start threads weeks in advance as it will take over the forum again. I will leave the threads open for a couple of days after so you can all chat about the great (or not ) time you had If I have forgotten anything shout out " YAY thank you | |||
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"Ok looks like most want to go back to dated threads So everyone can be happy please search the forum before you start your date thread so you don't duplicate it please and try not to start threads weeks in advance as it will take over the forum again. I will leave the threads open for a couple of days after so you can all chat about the great (or not ) time you had If I have forgotten anything shout out " Tyvm for allowing us the chance to vote on it . If we see newbies starting repeat date threads we shall advise of new setup and let admin know , which will hopefully keep threads to a minimum. | |||
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"Ok looks like most want to go back to dated threads So everyone can be happy please search the forum before you start your date thread so you don't duplicate it please and try not to start threads weeks in advance as it will take over the forum again. I will leave the threads open for a couple of days after so you can all chat about the great (or not ) time you had If I have forgotten anything shout out Tyvm for allowing us the chance to vote on it . If we see newbies starting repeat date threads we shall advise of new setup and let admin know , which will hopefully keep threads to a minimum. " | |||
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"Ok looks like most want to go back to dated threads So everyone can be happy please search the forum before you start your date thread so you don't duplicate it please and try not to start threads weeks in advance as it will take over the forum again. I will leave the threads open for a couple of days after so you can all chat about the great (or not ) time you had If I have forgotten anything shout out " apparently it changed to one thread it appears a thread with clubs mentioned called a vote (lol users deciding a companys policys) its all well and good allowing (I know most dont like this but sorry its exactly how I see it) advertisment but if you do this surely the same opportunity has to be open to all businesses . I get that folk will say its to see who is attending and discuss things it dosnt change the fact its promotion of these businesses. a few can remember the mear mention of a clubs name had that post sometimes even thread removed what exactly changed? I dont expect this to be answered but with other forms of advertisment not allowed and clubs are is this not a bias | |||
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"I was gonna start a post asking 'what's everyone's reasons for not going to a swinging club like CJs or After8s' but I changed my mind as it might have been looked upon a post about clubs, which it would be. Just wanted to see if most would have similar reasons but didn't want 'Another club post'. OMG how fabswingers creates problems that tears us all apart " It's a valid question. But why add the names of the 2 Clubs? I think just about everyone knows the name of the Scottish club and even Clubs close to the borders. It is a subject like another. So why not ask with being specific | |||
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"Ok looks like most want to go back to dated threads So everyone can be happy please search the forum before you start your date thread so you don't duplicate it please and try not to start threads weeks in advance as it will take over the forum again. I will leave the threads open for a couple of days after so you can all chat about the great (or not ) time you had If I have forgotten anything shout out apparently it changed to one thread it appears a thread with clubs mentioned called a vote (lol users deciding a companys policys) its all well and good allowing (I know most dont like this but sorry its exactly how I see it) advertisment but if you do this surely the same opportunity has to be open to all businesses . I get that folk will say its to see who is attending and discuss things it dosnt change the fact its promotion of these businesses. a few can remember the mear mention of a clubs name had that post sometimes even thread removed what exactly changed? I dont expect this to be answered but with other forms of advertisment not allowed and clubs are is this not a bias " The club itself is not allowed to advertise events in this section. This thread is for people who are using the club to chat about it, like the club discussion section. | |||
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"I think it depends on your definition of advertising Kola. For me, it is the basic definition (sorry lazy copy paste) ...Advertising is an audio or visual form of marketing communication that employs an openly sponsored, non-personal message to promote or sell a product, service or idea. Sponsors of advertising are often businesses wishing to promote their products or services. Advertising is differentiated from public relations in that an advertiser pays for and has control over the message... Here, ie those threads, the 'Business' has no control over what is being said. In those thread the 'Business' does not comment and does not promote their business. Come to Maxie's Club on Saturday, you are sure to have a great time -- posted by Max herself -- that is advertising and promoting I am going to Tesco for some milk! Anyone fancy meeting me?! That is defo not an advertising for Tesco or promoting Tesco. Each time one uses a brand name as a vocabulary in a sentence is not advertising... not promoting. Using that brand is not in order to influence other people and not to sell a product or a service! Some brands have now become part of the language. " your correct but other buisnesses cant be "talked about"" which I agree with so why is their an allowance for clubs. Cant and wont go into why I believe some posts fall into the criteria you state as what constitutes advertisment. | |||
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"Advertising is solely about promoting a business these posts are about coordinating night out with old and new friends. About giving newbies advice and allowing them the chance to arrange to meet others. Advertising is a happy coincidence and this is a site run for members for members surely it is us who should decide how the site develops and the one important fact is cj or after8 don’t start these threads and rarely comment on them so it’s not self advertising but swingers supporting swingers clubs there are only two three in whole of Scotland if you add in the shoebox covering a huge area so if people from north or south of Scotland want to know a night is going to be busy with people they are intrested in meeting. Who are we to moan about it. Most of them have to fork out a large sum of money for hotels so need to know" This | |||
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"Kola is a glasgow social meet an advertisement , its people organising a PRIVATE event . You attend these events right. ? Would you be happy if it got kicked out the scottish forum into the MEETS AND EVENTS section of Fab where it belongs , where you need to go look through loads of events that suit YOU. Or alternatively lets keep the socials in the scotland forum and lump it all into ONE thread . So now glasgow socials , aberdeen socials , dundee socials are on the same thread , good luck kola going through that ONE thread figuring out whos going to what and when . Thats how we feel about club post . ALL we are asking is for you to skip past threads of no interest to you. " a social is not a buisness and if clubs are allowed this since you seem averse to advertisment lets say spotlight should all folk looking to make cash on this site not be afforded the same spotlight. | |||
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"Kola is a glasgow social meet an advertisement , its people organising a PRIVATE event . You attend these events right. ? Would you be happy if it got kicked out the scottish forum into the MEETS AND EVENTS section of Fab where it belongs , where you need to go look through loads of events that suit YOU. Or alternatively lets keep the socials in the scotland forum and lump it all into ONE thread . So now glasgow socials , aberdeen socials , dundee socials are on the same thread , good luck kola going through that ONE thread figuring out whos going to what and when . Thats how we feel about club post . ALL we are asking is for you to skip past threads of no interest to you. a social is not a buisness and if clubs are allowed this since you seem averse to advertisment lets say spotlight should all folk looking to make cash on this site not be afforded the same spotlight." Since Cj and the owners of after8 don’t put these threads up it’s the people who are going so those same people are not profiting in any way by posting or commenting on the threads regarding what night/afternoon they are going. I’m sure the shoebox and some of the organised parties are the same that if they don’t post it then they’re not advertising. I myself have posted ladies night’s, socials and parties at my home I ask for a deposit or contribution towards costs but I never profit from any of these. And if I’m being honest your pedantic comments on all things club related is beyond tiresome!!! We get it you don’t want to go! Don’t worry I’m sure no one will suggest/ask/force you to go so please for the love of ...... Can you just scroll by troll something else and enjoy the site and swinging scene like the rest of us are trying to do!!! Musicmaid | |||
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" Im not the only person who tired of club chat take over as ive mentioned before it seems to come down to qho shouts loudest not what is wanted or needed.." Or the people who add to the thread to say what they wanted. | |||
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" Im not the only person who tired of club chat take over as ive mentioned before it seems to come down to qho shouts loudest not what is wanted or needed.. Or the people who add to the thread to say what they wanted. " its more that there appears to be no parity for other buisnesses who cannot be discussed. im sure you remember a time that club names or any buisness for that matter in the forums was removed somethings changed and I struggle to see what. I struggle even further to see how one set of buisnesses can be discussed while others cant | |||
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"Kola it was NOT who shouts louded , the site offered it to a vote and the MAJORITY, ASKED it go back to the way it was. YOU never even complained before. It was 1 person who made the complaint then left the site while we ALL spoke about it. NOBODY shouted louder. Last point : the socials you attend ARE held in a Business and that businesses name get given to loads of members when you get the location of the social which can be quite a lot of people im sure. By your definition that must be advertising because the name of the place is mentioned. So what if its sent in a private message, not so private if 50 or 60 plus people are recieving it, or is it ok because thats something you enjoy going to. " the site asked......... maybe not maybe a user asked | |||
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" Im not the only person who tired of club chat take over as ive mentioned before it seems to come down to qho shouts loudest not what is wanted or needed.. Or the people who add to the thread to say what they wanted. its more that there appears to be no parity for other buisnesses who cannot be discussed. im sure you remember a time that club names or any buisness for that matter in the forums was removed somethings changed and I struggle to see what. I struggle even further to see how one set of buisnesses can be discussed while others cant" Only if they were in the wrong section. Admin inherited the club section when taking over the site, it hasn't changed since then other than Admin making a section for clubs to advertise their events in so they don't take over the forums | |||
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"Kola it was NOT who shouts louded , the site offered it to a vote and the MAJORITY, ASKED it go back to the way it was. YOU never even complained before. It was 1 person who made the complaint then left the site while we ALL spoke about it. NOBODY shouted louder. Last point : the socials you attend ARE held in a Business and that businesses name get given to loads of members when you get the location of the social which can be quite a lot of people im sure. By your definition that must be advertising because the name of the place is mentioned. So what if its sent in a private message, not so private if 50 or 60 plus people are recieving it, or is it ok because thats something you enjoy going to. the site asked......... maybe not maybe a user asked" I was speaking for the site, ie mod forum trying to keep the majority happy | |||
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"Kola it was NOT who shouts louded , the site offered it to a vote and the MAJORITY, ASKED it go back to the way it was. YOU never even complained before. It was 1 person who made the complaint then left the site while we ALL spoke about it. NOBODY shouted louder. Last point : the socials you attend ARE held in a Business and that businesses name get given to loads of members when you get the location of the social which can be quite a lot of people im sure. By your definition that must be advertising because the name of the place is mentioned. So what if its sent in a private message, not so private if 50 or 60 plus people are recieving it, or is it ok because thats something you enjoy going to. the site asked......... maybe not maybe a user asked I was speaking for the site, ie mod forum trying to keep the majority happy " I get that it was still a user who raised the issue not the site | |||
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"And it was a user who raised it in the first place that spoiled it for the MAJORITY remember. Ps then he left site. " His concerns where relevant at the time and he wasn't the only one who complained to be fair | |||
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"And it was a user who raised it in the first place that spoiled it for the MAJORITY remember. Ps then he left site. " not for an argument the maxim your using for majority is a bit off | |||
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"Ok point taken it wasnt meant that way. Perhaps a few spoiling it for the many would be better wording. Though you never did reply about moving the numerous social threads, or other parties quizzes etc type threads, that turn up in the wrong section of fab ie scotland forums that many users just skip past if not interested in them. " socials are not about profit its not about furthering a buisness im sure even me and you can agree they are seperate models. I may start giving reviews on any new shops opening | |||
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"Kola we CAN agree on that . But a user asking who is going to a club on a particular night is NOT about adding to a clubs finances. Its purely about who will be thier and perhaps chat to while there. You see it as advertising no one will change that so will leave it at that. Hope your not inconvenienced to much passing hopfully just 1 or 2 club posts . I shall happily skip past any social event threads to. " as ive said above i dont agree with it but I can accept it though it should be the same for any buisness that folks want to talk about and not banning chat on some but oking others | |||
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" as ive said above i dont agree with it but I can accept it though it should be the same for any buisness that folks want to talk about and not banning chat on some but oking others" Clubs are allowed to advertise an event as they are listed in the club section. I can't see the site becoming like Exchange and Mart anytime soon with lists of adverts for anything and everything However if you want Admin to change their rules you will need to ask them from the CONTACT button As this is going round in circles I am going to shut this. | |||
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