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"Kezza never outright denied it when Nicola 1st said it.. Says it all But no politician tells the truth Ever " Yip that said it all not denying it | |||
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"Bought and sold for English gold. Always have and always will. It's time for revolt. "love mince like this your quoting a poem from 1791. Change the record. This is 2017 the people of Scotland spoke . No independence. Why dont we have a referendum every second Saturday of the month just to keep the thing going for another 300 yrs . Ohhh so bored hearing it . And on the ops point , i believe Nicola is telling the truth but how low can a person go than go on national tv and tell everyone about a PRIVATE conversation. I hope no one else trusts her from this day forth . | |||
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"It's tragic that politicians seem to put most of their time and energy into petty games of oneupmanship and the not so petty games of power when what they should be doing is working together to solve the many crises our world faces. The vote today is for whom governs the U.K. Yet even in tiny Scotland the parties squabble over who is in charge of Scotland. In all honesty there are times I think Mother Nature should scrub the slate clean and start again. Maybe give the insects a shot "Yer aff yer Heid missus the midge's would rule | |||
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"Bought and sold for English gold. Always have and always will. It's time for revolt.
love mince like this your quoting a poem from 1791. Change the record. This is 2017 the people of Scotland spoke . No independence. Why dont we have a referendum every second Saturday of the month just to keep the thing going for another 300 yrs . Ohhh so bored hearing it . And on the ops point , i believe Nicola is telling the truth but how low can a person go than go on national tv and tell everyone about a PRIVATE conversation. I hope no one else trusts her from this day forth ."I know its a poem, by rabbie burns. And I didn't vote yes btw but I will next time. Oh & don't tell me to change the record. I'll post what I like on a public forum. None of them are trust at all is the point in making. If your bored hearing it too bad, don't read it then. | |||
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"It's tragic that politicians seem to put most of their time and energy into petty games of oneupmanship and the not so petty games of power when what they should be doing is working together to solve the many crises our world faces. The vote today is for whom governs the U.K. Yet even in tiny Scotland the parties squabble over who is in charge of Scotland. In all honesty there are times I think Mother Nature should scrub the slate clean and start again. Maybe give the insects a shot
Yer aff yer Heid missus the midge's would rule "Lmao Steph... midges dinna bother me but politicians GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !?@##!!?!@ ... and breathe.... | |||
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"It's tragic that politicians seem to put most of their time and energy into petty games of oneupmanship and the not so petty games of power when what they should be doing is working together to solve the many crises our world faces. The vote today is for whom governs the U.K. Yet even in tiny Scotland the parties squabble over who is in charge of Scotland. In all honesty there are times I think Mother Nature should scrub the slate clean and start again. Maybe give the insects a shot
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Lmao Steph... midges dinna bother me but politicians GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !?@##!!?!@ ... and breathe.... "Don't midges bite and suck blood now which politicians remind you of vampires ? | |||
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"Right here goes with my tupence worth FIRST Independence This will be put to a vote remember at the elections the wee x thing u put on paper so we will decide The other parties are usung this as a stick to beat the SNP remember the wee X counts Also would u really trust the tories MORE AUSTERITY Labour Corbyn ditherer on whether to press the button to stop us feckin getting frazzled Simples answer SNP "I agree, but they're far from perfect either, just the best of a bad bunch. I think it's time for a political overhaul | |||
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"Also snp didn't use 300 million of scotlands budget last year just so they can say westminster isn't giving scotland the money we need they handed westminster 300 million back what the hell is that all about and that's official and has even been published in official reports it's just anything to have a go at England and make themselves look like there doing the best they can this country is a total mess and it's getting worse each year whoever is incharge needs to change sumthing instead of same thing over and over again but every party is a joke and every politician only looks after them self and there own pocket" | |||
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"It's tragic that politicians seem to put most of their time and energy into petty games of oneupmanship and the not so petty games of power when what they should be doing is working together to solve the many crises our world faces. The vote today is for whom governs the U.K. Yet even in tiny Scotland the parties squabble over who is in charge of Scotland. In all honesty there are times I think Mother Nature should scrub the slate clean and start again. Maybe give the insects a shot
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Lmao Steph... midges dinna bother me but politicians GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !?@##!!?!@ ... and breathe....
Don't midges bite and suck blood now which politicians remind you of vampires ? "They are psychic vampires... at least you can make up losing a wee bit blood... politicians suck the very life force from you... | |||
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"Bought and sold for English gold. Always have and always will. It's time for revolt.
love mince like this your quoting a poem from 1791. Change the record. This is 2017 the people of Scotland spoke . No independence. Why dont we have a referendum every second Saturday of the month just to keep the thing going for another 300 yrs . Ohhh so bored hearing it . And on the ops point , i believe Nicola is telling the truth but how low can a person go than go on national tv and tell everyone about a PRIVATE conversation. I hope no one else trusts her from this day forth .
I know its a poem, by rabbie burns. And I didn't vote yes btw but I will next time. Oh & don't tell me to change the record. I'll post what I like on a public forum. None of them are trust at all is the point in making. If your bored hearing it too bad, don't read it then. "Wow your going to vote for independence next time . Thats your choice but if i asked how 300 soldiers would defend Scotland plz explain (snp figures) if i ask what currency will we use ( not sure snp) how will we finance nhs schools pensioners ( ache it will be ok snp ) yes a vote for independence is well thought through but at least we can hold them accountable because there Scottish lmfao | |||
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"Bought and sold for English gold. Always have and always will. It's time for revolt.
love mince like this your quoting a poem from 1791. Change the record. This is 2017 the people of Scotland spoke . No independence. Why dont we have a referendum every second Saturday of the month just to keep the thing going for another 300 yrs . Ohhh so bored hearing it . And on the ops point , i believe Nicola is telling the truth but how low can a person go than go on national tv and tell everyone about a PRIVATE conversation. I hope no one else trusts her from this day forth .
I know its a poem, by rabbie burns. And I didn't vote yes btw but I will next time. Oh & don't tell me to change the record. I'll post what I like on a public forum. None of them are trust at all is the point in making. If your bored hearing it too bad, don't read it then.
Wow your going to vote for independence next time . Thats your choice but if i asked how 300 soldiers would defend Scotland plz explain (snp figures) if i ask what currency will we use ( not sure snp) how will we finance nhs schools pensioners ( ache it will be ok snp ) yes a vote for independence is well thought through but at least we can hold them accountable because there Scottish lmfao "I'm not an snp fan. I would like an independent Scotland though and like I said. We'd have to hold our own general election. The snp shouldn't get automatic power. It's only my opinion, I'm not trying to change anyone else's, just having a say | |||
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"This 300million is money that Westminster can take from us We cant do a feckin thing about it while we are tied to their apron string Oh and by the way i dont know if it will come to anything but there seems to be a wee bit more oil coming on line And yes i do know the SNP made a balls up of this in their referendun campaign so will folk kindly not shove that down my throat " | |||
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"Bought and sold for English gold. Always have and always will. It's time for revolt.
love mince like this your quoting a poem from 1791. Change the record. This is 2017 the people of Scotland spoke . No independence. Why dont we have a referendum every second Saturday of the month just to keep the thing going for another 300 yrs . Ohhh so bored hearing it . And on the ops point , i believe Nicola is telling the truth but how low can a person go than go on national tv and tell everyone about a PRIVATE conversation. I hope no one else trusts her from this day forth .
I know its a poem, by rabbie burns. And I didn't vote yes btw but I will next time. Oh & don't tell me to change the record. I'll post what I like on a public forum. None of them are trust at all is the point in making. If your bored hearing it too bad, don't read it then.
Wow your going to vote for independence next time . Thats your choice but if i asked how 300 soldiers would defend Scotland plz explain (snp figures) if i ask what currency will we use ( not sure snp) how will we finance nhs schools pensioners ( ache it will be ok snp ) yes a vote for independence is well thought through but at least we can hold them accountable because there Scottish lmfao
I'm not an snp fan. I would like an independent Scotland though and like I said. We'd have to hold our own general election. The snp shouldn't get automatic power. It's only my opinion, I'm not trying to change anyone else's, just having a say "I too would love independence so we agree on this point . But it would take in my opinion 5 to 10 yrs to plan and make sure its viable. With all the devolved powers the snp have why havnt they said to Westminster cut the money you send us in half and we will half the money we send you so we can see if the budgets are workable for independence. Use the powers they have just now to prove independence is viable. | |||
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"Bought and sold for English gold. Always have and always will. It's time for revolt.
love mince like this your quoting a poem from 1791. Change the record. This is 2017 the people of Scotland spoke . No independence. Why dont we have a referendum every second Saturday of the month just to keep the thing going for another 300 yrs . Ohhh so bored hearing it . And on the ops point , i believe Nicola is telling the truth but how low can a person go than go on national tv and tell everyone about a PRIVATE conversation. I hope no one else trusts her from this day forth .
I know its a poem, by rabbie burns. And I didn't vote yes btw but I will next time. Oh & don't tell me to change the record. I'll post what I like on a public forum. None of them are trust at all is the point in making. If your bored hearing it too bad, don't read it then.
Wow your going to vote for independence next time . Thats your choice but if i asked how 300 soldiers would defend Scotland plz explain (snp figures) if i ask what currency will we use ( not sure snp) how will we finance nhs schools pensioners ( ache it will be ok snp ) yes a vote for independence is well thought through but at least we can hold them accountable because there Scottish lmfao
I'm not an snp fan. I would like an independent Scotland though and like I said. We'd have to hold our own general election. The snp shouldn't get automatic power. It's only my opinion, I'm not trying to change anyone else's, just having a say
I too would love independence so we agree on this point . But it would take in my opinion 5 to 10 yrs to plan and make sure its viable. With all the devolved powers the snp have why havnt they said to Westminster cut the money you send us in half and we will half the money we send you so we can see if the budgets are workable for independence. Use the powers they have just now to prove independence is viable."I agree. I'm not sure they even really want independence. And risk they're jobs? An Nicola would have to give up her place on the privy council. No, I'm no fan of the SNP. | |||
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"Scotland has never had a free vote on independence. The original union was a hostile takeover fuelled by bribery and the threat of invasion. Scots were opposed, but the ruling class voted for self-interest, against their own country. Unfortunately, the spirit of those quislings is still alive today. Then, in the ONLY time in over 300 years when the Scots were allowed to vote on their own future, and when the polling suggested a victory for YES, the unionists broke all the rules and wheeled out Gordon Brown to deliver his infamous meaningless vow through the daily record and the bbc. So devo-max, never an option, suddenly became one at the eleventh hour - enough to sway the result for the union. Fortunately, labour paid a heavy price for their treachery. But their tory masters are still fighting as dirty as ever. Independence is NOT a party political issue, but it suits the establishment to fight the battle along those lines, so they can recruit the ranks of the useful idiots to buttress support for the status quo. When we transition from childhood to adulthood, we become autonomous, legally responsible and independent. Independence is a natural and desirable state of being, not only for individuals but for nations also. The desire for independence is nothing more complicated than the desire for autonomy and the requirement for a democracy where our aspirations do not need to be filtered through the sieve of the best interests of the London establishment." Well said that man.  | |||
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"Your 300 soldiers are because of westminster government cuts But aye they can still keep and finance DEATH ON THE WATER at Faslane "Here here. Get rid of that abhorrence. | |||
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"Bought and sold for English gold. Always have and always will. It's time for revolt.
love mince like this your quoting a poem from 1791. Change the record. This is 2017 the people of Scotland spoke . No independence. Why dont we have a referendum every second Saturday of the month just to keep the thing going for another 300 yrs . Ohhh so bored hearing it . And on the ops point , i believe Nicola is telling the truth but how low can a person go than go on national tv and tell everyone about a PRIVATE conversation. I hope no one else trusts her from this day forth .
I know its a poem, by rabbie burns. And I didn't vote yes btw but I will next time. Oh & don't tell me to change the record. I'll post what I like on a public forum. None of them are trust at all is the point in making. If your bored hearing it too bad, don't read it then.
Wow your going to vote for independence next time . Thats your choice but if i asked how 300 soldiers would defend Scotland plz explain (snp figures) if i ask what currency will we use ( not sure snp) how will we finance nhs schools pensioners ( ache it will be ok snp ) yes a vote for independence is well thought through but at least we can hold them accountable because there Scottish lmfao "Well said and also fastlane will be where we keep our army navy and air force erm I live near there and know the area where's the runway for a start and where are we getting the money to build the ships plains tanks blah blah blah as all the UK stuff belongs to Westminster | |||
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"I dont honestly think that even the SNP would give 300million back Theres a saying LIES DAMN LIES " the 300 mil is money that was in our budget that snp didn't spend so by law what u don't use in the budget u hav to hand back | |||
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"Change the record. This is 2017 the people of Scotland spoke . No independence. Why dont we have a referendum every second Saturday of the month just to keep the thing going for another 300 yrs . Ohhh so bored hearing it." Of course, it's the Unionist parties who keep on and on about it. Look at the election flyers, every time they speak in public and all they can write in their columns. The tactic is to give the impression that the independence campaign is A} Purely about the SNP B} The only thing the SNP talk about or do. This is to make the undecided and those who only get their information from the mainstream media propaganda think that the only reason they hear about independence is because of the evil Nats. 
The blatant lies told to the Scottish voters during the last indyref have been clearly highlighted, especially the one that has lead to the mandate for this referendum; membership of Europe. Somehow or other standing on a manifesto which included a second referendum if there was a material change of circumstances, being voted into power on the basis of that manifesto and then following that manifesto is somehow anti-democratic if you're a unionist. | |||
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"Well said and also fastlane will be where we keep our army navy and air force erm I live near there and know the area where's the runway for a start and where are we getting the money to build the ships plains tanks blah blah blah as all the UK stuff belongs to Westminster" No, the UK 'stuff' doesn't belong to Westminster. It belongs to the UK. Leaving the Union means we are entitled to our share of all UK assets. You know, like we've been paying for for over 300 years. | |||
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"Well said and also fastlane will be where we keep our army navy and air force erm I live near there and know the area where's the runway for a start and where are we getting the money to build the ships plains tanks blah blah blah as all the UK stuff belongs to Westminster No, the UK 'stuff' doesn't belong to Westminster. It belongs to the UK. Leaving the Union means we are entitled to our share of all UK assets. You know, like we've been paying for for over 300 years. " | |||
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" With all the devolved powers the snp have why havnt they said to Westminster cut the money you send us in half and we will half the money we send you so we can see if the budgets are workable for independence. Use the powers they have just now to prove independence is viable." The devolved powers give us no control over macro-economic levers. We are therefore unable to control our own economy so your idea wouldn't work. However, just for the sake of argument, let's say WM did decide to let us have full control over our economy (you know, like we were promised in the Vow)and this came about. Scotland would very quickly see how it has been ripped off for 300+ years and leave the UK permanently. This is why WM will never allow a more federalised UK as it would highlight just how badly skewed towards London the present setup is. | |||
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" With all the devolved powers the snp have why havnt they said to Westminster cut the money you send us in half and we will half the money we send you so we can see if the budgets are workable for independence. Use the powers they have just now to prove independence is viable. The devolved powers give us no control over macro-economic levers. We are therefore unable to control our own economy so your idea wouldn't work. However, just for the sake of argument, let's say WM did decide to let us have full control over our economy (you know, like we were promised in the Vow)and this came about. Scotland would very quickly see how it has been ripped off for 300+ years and leave the UK permanently. This is why WM will never allow a more federalised UK as it would highlight just how badly skewed towards London the present setup is. " I disagree we do not hav enough people in scotland to pay the taxes to generate enough money to look after everything and oh I know snp say that the (dieing) oil will look after us | |||
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" With all the devolved powers the snp have why havnt they said to Westminster cut the money you send us in half and we will half the money we send you so we can see if the budgets are workable for independence. Use the powers they have just now to prove independence is viable. The devolved powers give us no control over macro-economic levers. We are therefore unable to control our own economy so your idea wouldn't work. However, just for the sake of argument, let's say WM did decide to let us have full control over our economy (you know, like we were promised in the Vow)and this came about. Scotland would very quickly see how it has been ripped off for 300+ years and leave the UK permanently. This is why WM will never allow a more federalised UK as it would highlight just how badly skewed towards London the present setup is. " Here here | |||
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"They've lied about the oil too, & admitted it. The city of London is in charge & id rather they weren't " the oil industry is dieing | |||
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"They've lied about the oil too, & admitted it. The city of London is in charge & id rather they weren't the oil industry is dieing " Nae bother. I'm not here to argue. Both sides tell lies, but if we're the subsidy junkies draining them like they say, why they so desperate to keep us? The old bulldogs dying but it'll hang on till it does, using it's ancient &'well learned tactics of receipt and intimidation. I see through it is all I'm saying | |||
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"They've lied about the oil too, & admitted it. The city of London is in charge & id rather they weren't the oil industry is dieing Nae bother. I'm not here to argue. Both sides tell lies, but if we're the subsidy junkies draining them like they say, why they so desperate to keep us? The old bulldogs dying but it'll hang on till it does, using it's ancient &'well learned tactics of receipt and intimidation. I see through it is all I'm saying " *deceit | |||
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"You know I really don't get that folk think we have on vote on independence and that's IT. I know this is simplistic and someone will no doubt tell me why but we vote for a new parliament every five years... there isn't that much difference surely. However in saying that many think that's the trouble that we move from one parties policies to another all the time... there is no easy answer to any of this in truth but as I said before the one thing THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON IS LIES, A LOVE OF LISTENING TO THEIR OWN HUBRISTIC VOICES AND POWER. Sadly they thing they all have in common is distinct lack of humanity, of being able to work together to solve a problem - it's all about HOW (i.e. each one wants it their way) not that the problem actually gets tackled." Well said. Basically they are all career politicians with little to no concept of what life outside consists of. | |||
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"You know I really don't get that folk think we have on vote on independence and that's IT. I know this is simplistic and someone will no doubt tell me why but we vote for a new parliament every five years... there isn't that much difference surely. However in saying that many think that's the trouble that we move from one parties policies to another all the time... there is no easy answer to any of this in truth but as I said before the one thing THEY ALL HAVE IN COMMON IS LIES, A LOVE OF LISTENING TO THEIR OWN HUBRISTIC VOICES AND POWER. Sadly they thing they all have in common is distinct lack of humanity, of being able to work together to solve a problem - it's all about HOW (i.e. each one wants it their way) not that the problem actually gets tackled. Well said. Basically they are all career politicians with little to no concept of what life outside consists of. " | |||
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"Right here goes with my tupence worth FIRST Independence This will be put to a vote remember at the elections the wee x thing u put on paper so we will decide The other parties are usung this as a stick to beat the SNP remember the wee X counts Also would u really trust the tories MORE AUSTERITY Labour Corbyn ditherer on whether to press the button to stop us feckin getting frazzled Simples answer SNP " | |||
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" the oil industry is dieing " Aye, right. "From the Telegraph in June 2008 we find a credible source that says: ‘North Sea oil will last for 100 years‘. Dr Richard Pike, a former oil industry consultant and now the chief executive of the Royal Society of Chemistry, said: “Rather than only getting 20 to 30 billion barrels [from the North Sea] we are probably looking at more than twice that amount. The North Sea will continue to provide oil for another 100 years, twice as long as previous estimates, according to industry analysts”. 100 years is on the upside but what does the official industry body say? At a recent debate on the future of the North Sea a director of London based industry body, Oil & Gas UK, told me that there is at least 40 years of oil left at reasonably high production rates and that various sources agree that the oil left in the sea is worth about £1.5 trillion in terms of resources remaining to be extracted." Even if you take the lower estimate of 40 years its certainly enough to build a good nest egg like the Norwegians have managed. Or would you prefer to piss the rest of it away as Westminster has done to date? | |||
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" the oil industry is dieing Aye, right. "From the Telegraph in June 2008 we find a credible source that says: ‘North Sea oil will last for 100 years‘. Dr Richard Pike, a former oil industry consultant and now the chief executive of the Royal Society of Chemistry, said: “Rather than only getting 20 to 30 billion barrels [from the North Sea] we are probably looking at more than twice that amount. The North Sea will continue to provide oil for another 100 years, twice as long as previous estimates, according to industry analysts”. 100 years is on the upside but what does the official industry body say? At a recent debate on the future of the North Sea a director of London based industry body, Oil & Gas UK, told me that there is at least 40 years of oil left at reasonably high production rates and that various sources agree that the oil left in the sea is worth about £1.5 trillion in terms of resources remaining to be extracted." Even if you take the lower estimate of 40 years its certainly enough to build a good nest egg like the Norwegians have managed. Or would you prefer to piss the rest of it away as Westminster has done to date? " Very well said. | |||
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"I'm not a fan of the snp either, or any of the rest. I do however support independence." this | |||
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" the oil industry is dieing Aye, right. "From the Telegraph in June 2008 we find a credible source that says: ‘North Sea oil will last for 100 years‘. Dr Richard Pike, a former oil industry consultant and now the chief executive of the Royal Society of Chemistry, said: “Rather than only getting 20 to 30 billion barrels [from the North Sea] we are probably looking at more than twice that amount. The North Sea will continue to provide oil for another 100 years, twice as long as previous estimates, according to industry analysts”. 100 years is on the upside but what does the official industry body say? At a recent debate on the future of the North Sea a director of London based industry body, Oil & Gas UK, told me that there is at least 40 years of oil left at reasonably high production rates and that various sources agree that the oil left in the sea is worth about £1.5 trillion in terms of resources remaining to be extracted." Even if you take the lower estimate of 40 years its certainly enough to build a good nest egg like the Norwegians have managed. Or would you prefer to piss the rest of it away as Westminster has done to date? Very well said. "spot on, | |||
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" the oil industry is dieing Aye, right. "From the Telegraph in June 2008 we find a credible source that says: ‘North Sea oil will last for 100 years‘. Dr Richard Pike, a former oil industry consultant and now the chief executive of the Royal Society of Chemistry, said: “Rather than only getting 20 to 30 billion barrels [from the North Sea] we are probably looking at more than twice that amount. The North Sea will continue to provide oil for another 100 years, twice as long as previous estimates, according to industry analysts”. 100 years is on the upside but what does the official industry body say? At a recent debate on the future of the North Sea a director of London based industry body, Oil & Gas UK, told me that there is at least 40 years of oil left at reasonably high production rates and that various sources agree that the oil left in the sea is worth about £1.5 trillion in terms of resources remaining to be extracted." Even if you take the lower estimate of 40 years its certainly enough to build a good nest egg like the Norwegians have managed. Or would you prefer to piss the rest of it away as Westminster has done to date? " The £1.5 trillion quoted, is that based on $100 per barrel or the $30-40 that it's worth now? SNP said it would rework their calculations on the economy without the revenue from oil but I've yet to see their figures. I still don't see how we can afford to fund a welfare state on the budget we have. | |||
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" Labour Corbyn ditherer on whether to press the button to stop us feckin getting frazzled Simples answer SNP "Pressing the button does not stop you getting frazzled pressing the button gets you frazzled especially if you do as you say you will and press it first (Theresa May) | |||
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"Glad to see snp getting a spanking glad scotland is finally telling them get the 2nd referendum off the table and in the bin and spend your time and money sorting scotland instead like u should be doing all they care about is being the people to get independence sort scotland out then maybe the people will say let's hav another referendum" Last i looked snp have nearly 3 times moer mps than tories, and 5 times more than labour so id say snp spanked both | |||
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