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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

.......8th June. Roll on.......!!

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By *obbiefrictionCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Double take - General ERECTION? ...

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By *oobsandballsMan
over a year ago

st andrews

Yay, more politics!

But if we can get ourselves out of this complete clusterfuck then i have my pen ready!

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

Could see this coming ..back to the polls we go

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By *heesyheadbandMan
over a year ago

Glenrothes

gawd wonder how many are going to vote SNP...

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

Amazes me how you hear complaints about political threads supposedly not meant to be here as they have there own section. Yet here we are ( I dont mind political threads I just dont like hypocrissy)

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By *eefyBangerMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

The SNP sheep will have to find a new shout as pretty soon we'll no longer be governed by "an unelected PM"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Amazes me how you hear complaints about political threads supposedly not meant to be here as they have there own section. Yet here we are ( I dont mind political threads I just dont like hypocrissy)"

...I agree. There's a meet section and a club forum that get the swerve past as well. What is one to do.. ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who would love to give Theresa May a good seeing to?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agreed ..

Maybe the OP likes creating Political threads..Im sure he created others.

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By *oobsandballsMan
over a year ago

st andrews

"Who would love to give Theresa May a good seeing to?"

Me. Down a dark alley with a baseball bat

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By *earded villainMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

clever by may

no opposition with labour a shambles , possible slight improvement from lib dems . ukip and the likes faded back to being insignificant . cant see much change in the snp vote .

overall a strengthening of the tory majority that will allow us to get fucked without a fight

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By *awty MaxWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"clever by may

no opposition with labour a shambles , possible slight improvement from lib dems . ukip and the likes faded back to being insignificant . cant see much change in the snp vote .

overall a strengthening of the tory majority that will allow us to get fucked without a fight "

Agreed.

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By *heesyheadbandMan
over a year ago

Glenrothes

"The SNP sheep will have to find a new shout as pretty soon we'll no longer be governed by "an unelected PM""

always find it kind of funny when someone says that, your not voting for the person your voting for the party.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jeremy Corbyn's delighted. He was looking for an excuse to buy a new anorak.....

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

"Amazes me how you hear complaints about political threads supposedly not meant to be here as they have there own section. Yet here we are ( I dont mind political threads I just dont like hypocrissy)

Agreed ..

Maybe the OP likes creating Political threads..Im sure he created others.

And your point is??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Amazes me how you hear complaints about political threads supposedly not meant to be here as they have there own section. Yet here we are ( I dont mind political threads I just dont like hypocrissy)

Agreed ..

Maybe the OP likes creating Political threads..Im sure he created others.

And your point is??

Maybe the OP likes creating Political threads

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

"gawd wonder how many are going to vote SNP...

59 seat clean sweep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"gawd wonder how many are going to vote SNP...

59 seat clean sweep

Apparently there was a Bi-Erection in Cjs ..I heard that was the same ..

59 seat clean sweep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who would love to give Theresa May a good seeing to?

Me. Down a dark alley with a baseball bat"

Oh can i help lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love these threads, allows me to see a side of people that they don't often reveal.

If you give another person abuse or even resort to any form of disrespectful name calling because of which party they vote for, to me your a knob and blocked

Btw, the as soon as she took over from Davie C a general election was always on the cards, the article 50 process just slowed it down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very shrewd lady as the shambles labour is she's got a clean sweep

Dosnt matter who Scotland votes for as as per our vote does not count

Bit of a 2 face Senario as she said to sturgeon wait for indy2 after brexit but goes ahead with a snap election

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who would love to give Theresa May a good seeing to?

Me. Down a dark alley with a baseball bat"

This.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Amazes me how you hear complaints about political threads supposedly not meant to be here as they have there own section. Yet here we are ( I dont mind political threads I just dont like hypocrissy)

Agreed ..

Maybe the OP likes creating Political threads..Im sure he created others.

Oh he does. Been at it for years.

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By *ockerMrBloggs6969Man
over a year ago

nr you but not too near

"clever by may

no opposition with labour a shambles , possible slight improvement from lib dems . ukip and the likes faded back to being insignificant . cant see much change in the snp vote .

overall a strengthening of the tory majority that will allow us to get fucked without a fight "
well said that man...the Tories will fk us all left right n centre!!

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By *ockerMrBloggs6969Man
over a year ago

nr you but not too near

"Very shrewd lady as the shambles labour is she's got a clean sweep

Dosnt matter who Scotland votes for as as per our vote does not count

Bit of a 2 face Senario as she said to sturgeon wait for indy2 after brexit but goes ahead with a snap election

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By *ockerMrBloggs6969Man
over a year ago

nr you but not too near

"Who would love to give Theresa May a good seeing to?

Me. Down a dark alley with a baseball bat

Oh can i help lol "
join an ever growing Q

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What difference does it make ... 55 million people down south will make the decision for us as usual unless sturgeon grows a pair and takes us out under udi

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

"What difference does it make ... 55 million people down south will make the decision for us as usual unless sturgeon grows a pair and takes us out under udi"

Not really, I vote as an individual, not as a nation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's the point tho...even as if we did vote as a nation...England will still be the majority vote

So unless an independent Scotland it's a compete waste of time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yawn!! I wont be voting

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

"That's the point tho...even as if we did vote as a nation...England will still be the majority vote

So unless an independent Scotland it's a compete waste of time "

We don't vote as a nation though, we vote as individuals. Moy vote counts the same as anyone elses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What difference does it make ... 55 million people down south will make the decision for us as usual unless sturgeon grows a pair and takes us out under udi

Not really, I vote as an individual, not as a nation."

Ok ur vote doesn't mean a thing as an individual living in scotland

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

"What difference does it make ... 55 million people down south will make the decision for us as usual unless sturgeon grows a pair and takes us out under udi

Not really, I vote as an individual, not as a nation.

Ok ur vote doesn't mean a thing as an individual living in scotland"

Everyone's vote counts the same no matter where they live. I don't vote as a nation, in the same way I don't vote as a town, a county or a region. All of those are irrelevant, I vote for the local MP and party who will best represent my views.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah...if you vote tory

Brilliant as that's the only party that will count

I'm tired of being cow down to English rule

But unless independence

Nothing will ever change

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah...if you vote tory

Brilliant as that's the only party that will count

I'm tired of being cow down to English rule

But unless independence

Nothing will ever change "

I agree ... there is nothing equal about this union

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yawn!! I wont be voting"

But you'll complain when and if things are shite and not to your liking?

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By *esparate danMan
over a year ago

glasgow

As long as there will still be tits and fannies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As long as there will still be tits and fannies"

Theres a few of them in Westminister

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By *argaidMan
over a year ago

glasgow

Bodyswerving losing her majority with the 20+ Tory MPs facing charges. Deselect them, the English give the new boys a try and we're deeper in the hole than ever.

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By *argaidMan
over a year ago

glasgow

"The SNP sheep will have to find a new shout as pretty soon we'll no longer be governed by "an unelected PM""

Sheep are stupid animals whose lives are governed by a blind herding instinct. Their natural resources are taken for sale by others and are frequently fucked by their deviant masters. They bleat but their owners don't listen to them and they if they try to go their own way the dogs are set on them. Once used up they are discarded.

The saddest thing, and this is what makes it a description of the Tory voter in Scotland, is they still think their owners care about them and look out for them and will turn on any member of the flock that doesn't follow blindly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

".......8th June. Roll on.......!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ah well if Maggie Mayhem gets her way at least our sex lives will improve. We will be fucked left right and centre at every opportunity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think this is a real gamble.

Even if the Conservatives get a huge majority, the issues of division are still here. The Lord's, Labour, SNP, Libdems et al still have reasons to confound Brexit: they don't need to hold many seats, or indeed any, to make their opposition felt and so influence negotiations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is scotlands chance to break free from this unfair union ,because if we dont and the tories get bigger majority and go further to the right we will see our human rights scrapped ,nhs privatised more austerity that will hammer the poor and infirm ,lets hope the people of scotland take this chance and leave this broken union

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

Your opinion!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Your opinion!!

Correct. It is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Your opinion!!

Is this not what the Forums are for ?

Voicing views and opinions

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"Your opinion!!

Is this not what the Forums are for ?

Voicing views and opinions

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nope its for group consensus and love ins

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who would love to give Theresa May a good seeing to?"

Was she no a porn star back in the 90's

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who would love to give Theresa May a good seeing to?

Me. Down a dark alley with a baseball bat

Oh can i help lol "

Kinky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ah well if Maggie Mayhem gets her way at least our sex lives will improve. We will be fucked left right and centre at every opportunity.

Ooh well life's looking up.....

Or is it down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Damn this swingingy site has went All Facebooky again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Your opinion!!

Opinions... like arseholes ..everyone has one.

Take us for example, complete opposite sides of the fence.. havent fell out yet, but the baseball bat does come in handy

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

"Your opinion!!

Opinions... like arseholes ..everyone has one.

Take us for example, complete opposite sides of the fence.. havent fell out yet, but the baseball bat does come in handy

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

Angus Robertson: We welcome an early election.

SNP Westminster group: Will abstain from the vote for the election.

You couldn't make it up!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As long as there will still be tits and fannies"

The working class have spoken, do you hear us Downing Street?

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By *ockerMrBloggs6969Man
over a year ago

nr you but not too near

Those cunts hear fk all except the rustle of yr tax money n they're stocks n shares

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Your opinion!!

Why start a post if you dont want ppl to give there opinion ? Or were the rolling eyes because mines differs from yours

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You seem to ignore the fact that some of us Scots are also Tories and want a prosperous Scotland full of opportunity for everyone. The SNP are a party for down and outs and think that by looking after the proletariat they can stay in power. Unfortunately Scotland needs wealth creators to generate tax so as we can survive as an independent nation. So until we are all Tory then independence is just a pipe dream and the SNP will be lost in the noise.

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

"You seem to ignore the fact that some of us Scots are also Tories and want a prosperous Scotland full of opportunity for everyone. The SNP are a party for down and outs and think that by looking after the proletariat they can stay in power. Unfortunately Scotland needs wealth creators to generate tax so as we can survive as an independent nation. So until we are all Tory then independence is just a pipe dream and the SNP will be lost in the noise. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can assure you .. i am no down and out..Contrary to what some people would have others believe, I work for a living and pay my taxes and my dues. Like my partner who supports a different political party from myself. Would never dream of calling people down and outs or other names because of their political believes. That is just downright rude

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The SNP are a party for down and outs "

Classy pal. Just, Classy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The snap election is a cover up/smoke screen to hide the investigation of Tories fiddling expenses

https://www.rt.com/uk/385198-tory-expenses-scandal-election/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well said just goes to show the type of ppl some tory voters are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sums tories right up !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sums tories right up !!

Not all tories just this one in particular. I wouldnt make a sweeping generalisation based on one persons comments. Would just bring me down to their level.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sums tories right up !!

Not all tories just this one in particular. I wouldnt make a sweeping generalisation based on one persons comments. Would just bring me down to their level.

Seems the op agrees with him going by his thumbs up ,but i think he only started the thread to cause trouble

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By *earded villainMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

Sums tories right up !!

Not all tories just this one in particular. I wouldnt make a sweeping generalisation based on one persons comments. Would just bring me down to their level.

whilst you are spot on unfortunatley it has been the opinion from every tory i know and a common occurance

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

Vive la France!

Come on Max, let's go and relax

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sums tories right up !!

Not all tories just this one in particular. I wouldnt make a sweeping generalisation based on one persons comments. Would just bring me down to their level.

Seems the op agrees with him going by his thumbs up ,but i think he only started the thread to cause trouble "

He's got previous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sums tories right up !!

Not all tories just this one in particular. I wouldnt make a sweeping generalisation based on one persons comments. Would just bring me down to their level.

Seems the op agrees with him going by his thumbs up ,but i think he only started the thread to cause trouble

He's got previous. "

Aye ive noticed starts a thread then only gives the thumbs up with ppl who agree with him ,im just surprised he hasnt blamed oor beloved nicola for the wars in middle east the famines in africa yet hey but its early days lol

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By *earded villainMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

Sums tories right up !!

Not all tories just this one in particular. I wouldnt make a sweeping generalisation based on one persons comments. Would just bring me down to their level.

Seems the op agrees with him going by his thumbs up ,but i think he only started the thread to cause trouble

He's got previous.

give it time afterall what would us lowlifes know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Monster raving looney party aw ra way fs

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By *awty MaxWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Vive la France!

Come on Max, let's go and relax

Wee piña colada with Marine?

Sounds

I'll probably get my ass kicked there too lol will see this weekend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Monster raving looney party aw ra way fs

Im sure youl get a few votes

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

"gawd wonder how many are going to vote SNP...

59 seat clean sweep

Lol then Nicola wakes up to reality!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"gawd wonder how many are going to vote SNP...

59 seat clean sweep

Lol then Nicola wakes up to reality!

Yep and realises she only had her original 56...wit a bummer

Nah def 59 and we will still be told there isnt an appetite for independence by the tories and the media lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"gawd wonder how many are going to vote SNP...

59 seat clean sweep

Lol then Nicola wakes up to reality!

Yep and realises she only had her original 56...wit a bummer

Nah def 59 and we will still be told there isnt an appetite for independence by the tories and the media lol "

I was just going to retype that minus the angry face lol fat fingers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"gawd wonder how many are going to vote SNP...

59 seat clean sweep

Lol then Nicola wakes up to reality!

Yep and realises she only had her original 56...wit a bummer

Nah def 59 and we will still be told there isnt an appetite for independence by the tories and the media lol

I was just going to retype that minus the angry face lol fat fingers

Lol dont mention fat fingers they will think your too well fed lol remember we are meant to be down and outs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Your opinion!!

Why start a post if you dont want ppl to give there opinion ? Or were the rolling eyes because mines differs from yours

Exactly This ...

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By *argaidMan
over a year ago

glasgow

"Your opinion!!

Is this not what the Forums are for ?

Voicing views and opinions

Not to Bothy. He likes to live in an echo chamber and holds anyone who differs from his line in contempt. His debating style comprises provocative statement, insults and fingers-in-ears singing la la la.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Your opinion!!

Is this not what the Forums are for ?

Voicing views and opinions

Agreed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Your opinion!!

Is this not what the Forums are for ?

Voicing views and opinions

Just shows a complete lack of critical thinking. Such views have no value at all to any discussion so why pay any attention?

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"Your opinion!!

Is this not what the Forums are for ?

Voicing views and opinions

Just shows a complete lack of critical thinking. Such views have no value at all to any discussion so why pay any attention?"
la la la la fingers out ears time yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was referring to the OP when noting no critical thinking ever in place on political threads. I agree with the comment I quoted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The SNP sheep will have to find a new shout as pretty soon we'll no longer be governed by "an unelected PM""

May IS unelected.

Sadly that is not the worst thing about her.

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"The SNP sheep will have to find a new shout as pretty soon we'll no longer be governed by "an unelected PM"

May IS unelected.

Sadly that is not the worst thing about her."

Technically, EVERY prime minister is elected as an MP and UNelected as a prime minister as we don't vote for a prime minister. Just as we don't vote for Firt Minister of Scotland, only their position as an MSP

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By *eather47Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

May is running scared How dare anyone go against her She has called this general election because the Labout Party are a useless bunch of half wits and are no opposition at all why wee nippy sweetie[Nicola who by the way i back i million percent hahave the guts to stand up to her When will folks realise the Tory government doesnt give 2 flying f,s about anyone except theyre cronies

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"I was referring to the OP when noting no critical thinking ever in place on political threads. I agree with the comment I quoted.

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lol I just felt like a la la moment (I actually dont suffer from these so thought I would give it a try)

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By *eather47Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

Heather stand back and waits for the flak to hit her And by the way i was a labout voter up till 3 years ago and no i dont have only half a brain call and dont follow SNP blindly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Back Nicola one million percent? This 10 000 times more than is possible! Sounds like you share the SNPs monetary policy for running the country! No wonder Scotland is running with such a high budget deficit. God help us! Even making us higher tax payers pay more tax in Scotland compared to the rest of the UK, will not sort out this incompetent mess the SNP have created. Perhaps we would all be better off as down and outs living off the state instead of creating wealth and jobs for the population who will in turn pay into the system! We need a low tax economy to attract the right people to Scotland so as we all prosper. The only future is with the Conservatives.

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By *eather47Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

oh well here it starts i meant 100 per cent Better of with the tories well if u think that i really dont think u have any idea what a mess we are in thanks to them Also The tories are still bleeding Scotland dry but any way we have the local election first so see what happens then

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By *eather47Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Back Nicola one million percent? This 10 000 times more than is possible! Sounds like you share the SNPs monetary policy for running the country! No wonder Scotland is running with such a high budget deficit. God help us! Even making us higher tax payers pay more tax in Scotland compared to the rest of the UK, will not sort out this incompetent mess the SNP have created. Perhaps we would all be better off as down and outs living off the state instead of creating wealth and jobs for the population who will in turn pay into the system! We need a low tax economy to attract the right people to Scotland so as we all prosper. The only future is with the Conservatives."

Do you see all your fellow scots as down and outs , or is it only the snp supporters and low earners ?

Beneath you are they ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

May :

"The Country is coming together,but Westminster is not".

Funny as feck

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By *loki the BoatbuilderMan
over a year ago

Kattegat

Big wooden spoon moment, wonder how a snp ukip coalition government would work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Big wooden spoon moment, wonder how a snp ukip coalition government would work.

Are they "Down and Outs" to ?

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By *eonardo Da VinciMan
over a year ago

manchester

The SNP will lose at least 20-30 seats! Starting with that prize cock Angus Robertson!

A lot of People have become sick and tired of the SNP and their spiteful politics. They are ruining this country with their false notions of oppression by Westminster and not governing the NHS or education very well at all. Under their hand the Scottish oil industry is on it knees also...

It's time people saw through the SNP and thankfully it's happening fast!

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By *eADevilCouple
over a year ago

Blantyre

Referendum ?? I would love independence BUT give us the FULL information on what it means and what it Will cost. Questions always dodged. Plus nearly half of Scotland want out EU me included. Nicola keeps chopping and changing in out maybe. ?? All Teresa May is asking is lets get together get a good brexit deal then all us scots can make a PROPER informed decision if we wish to leave the NEW solo uk or not. That WOULD be an INFORMED decision.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Make June the end of May".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But that's the thing..I'm a snp voter

Was labour until they sold us down the river

So...What's next if not those 2?

Hell will freeze over before I'd ever vote tory

But...as per even if the whole of Scotland voted for the greens

England rule..why do folk not get this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But that's the thing..I'm a snp voter

Was labour until they sold us down the river

So...What's next if not those 2?

Hell will freeze over before I'd ever vote tory

But...as per even if the whole of Scotland voted for the greens

England rule..why do folk not get this?"

I totally get this and alas nothing will ever change.

The sheer volume of seats and voters in england will always outnumber the scottish elecorate.

You can take heart though that the tory party will never rule as the scottish government. There isnt enough dafties or millionaires in scotland that could make that happen

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"But that's the thing..I'm a snp voter

Was labour until they sold us down the river

So...What's next if not those 2?

Hell will freeze over before I'd ever vote tory

But...as per even if the whole of Scotland voted for the greens

England rule..why do folk not get this?"
why vote....... I understand the political landscape I choose a vote of no confidence by voting for no one. To be fair snp policys are the closest to my views but theres to much smoke and mirrors and unicorns

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But that's the thing..I'm a snp voter

Was labour until they sold us down the river

So...What's next if not those 2?

Hell will freeze over before I'd ever vote tory

But...as per even if the whole of Scotland voted for the greens

England rule..why do folk not get this?why vote....... I understand the political landscape I choose a vote of no confidence by voting for no one. To be fair snp policys are the closest to my views but theres to much smoke and mirrors and unicorns

Smoke and mirrors in all parties.

Dont believe for a min that maggie mayhem has called GE strictly in regards to brexit... the true reaaon will, as always,come out after voting closes.

Might be looking for those magical unicorns then lol

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"But that's the thing..I'm a snp voter

Was labour until they sold us down the river

So...What's next if not those 2?

Hell will freeze over before I'd ever vote tory

But...as per even if the whole of Scotland voted for the greens

Smoke and mirrors in all parties.

Dont believe for a min that maggie mayhem has called GE strictly in regards to brexit... the true reaaon will, as always,come out after voting closes.

Might be looking for those magical unicorns then lol"
I agree its all paryys thats whyive zero confidence in any lol my little pony has more chance of my vote than a politician

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By *eather47Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

Oldie u have hit the nail right on the head and it was previous Westminster governments that bled us dry on the oil Industry not the SNP as some one stated Labour are useless and as someone said sold us down the river

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Best of a bad lot I'm afraid

But I'd rather have folk living and working in Scotland running my country than sitting sleeping in Westminster and getting paid for it!!

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

"oh well here it starts i meant 100 per cent Better of with the tories well if u think that i really dont think u have any idea what a mess we are in thanks to them Also The tories are still bleeding Scotland dry but any way we have the local election first so see what happens then"

I'm sorry Heather, but blaming everyting on the Tories will no longer wash!!

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

"Referendum ?? I would love independence BUT give us the FULL information on what it means and what it Will cost. Questions always dodged. Plus nearly half of Scotland want out EU me included. Nicola keeps chopping and changing in out maybe. ?? All Teresa May is asking is lets get together get a good brexit deal then all us scots can make a PROPER informed decision if we wish to leave the NEW solo uk or not. That WOULD be an INFORMED decision.

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Best of a bad lot I'm afraid

But I'd rather have folk living and working in Scotland running my country than sitting sleeping in Westminster and getting paid for it!!"

Whooooaaaaa.....hang on a second

What the hell is the Scottish parliament for then???

Aren't THEY governing Scotland?

Aren't THEY running schools, the NHS, some important welfare spending powers (at long bloody last), even tax raising powers now too??

Take ALL the money we can squeeze out of Westminster and put it to better use.

Maybe if the SCOTTISH parliament actually used the powers it already has and concentrated on actually running Scotland on a day to day basis, then Scotland would be the great country it should be already.

Instead of wasting time bleating about the general election - which by the way, MSPs are NOT standing for election in - why not govern Scotland. Why not SHOW the people of the UK just how it could be done.

Oh, wait a minute, it's because they're ALL politicians who are in it for themselves and couldn't actually give a shit about the folk they are SUPPOSED to be working for!!

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

Do you know what, I've only ever met 1 politician I could actually respect.

He was a sitting labour MP. You may have heard of him. His name was John Denham.

I was 18 and about to vote for the first time. He came to the door and was presented with me and 3 other 18 year old first time voters.

So he said his bit and I asked him 2 simple questions.....

Why should WE vote for you?

How are you going to make OUR lives better?

He stopped, thought for about 30 seconds, then shook my hand and said 'I honestly don't know how to answer that as I'm not sure there is much that we can do to make your lives better.'

As he left, his parting comment was 'Just don't become a reporter because we would all look stupid on TV if you asked that'

At last. An honest politician

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

The tories are bleeding Scotland dry? Do you have any figures to back that up? Scottish Govt's bugget is higher than it's ever been and is going up by a massive £1bn next year.

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

That should've said 'budget', not 'bugget'

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

Looks like I finally killed the thread

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

"Best of a bad lot I'm afraid

But I'd rather have folk living and working in Scotland running my country than sitting sleeping in Westminster and getting paid for it!!

Whooooaaaaa.....hang on a second

What the hell is the Scottish parliament for then???

Aren't THEY governing Scotland?

Aren't THEY running schools, the NHS, some important welfare spending powers (at long bloody last), even tax raising powers now too??

Take ALL the money we can squeeze out of Westminster and put it to better use.

Oh, wait a minute, it's because they're ALL politicians who are in it for themselves and couldn't actually give a shit about the folk they are SUPPOSED to be working for!!

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow

"Looks like I finally killed the thread

Politicians they tend to avoid folk who tell the truth as they can't argue with them .

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Looks like I finally killed the thread

Politicians they tend to avoid folk who tell the truth as they can't argue with them . "

Oh shit!!

I apologise profusely

It's the weather. It's the fact I had a day off. I'm sorry. I actually made sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I never can understand the lack of thought from people who say that MPs/MSPs do nothing but moan about elections etc instead of governing. It's that lack of critical thinking or maybe selective belief, again.

The state of the NHS in Scotland is better than that in England but the overall UK NHS woes can't be placed at the feet of the SNP. That's just lazy thinking and meaningless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I never can understand the lack of thought from people who say that MPs/MSPs do nothing but moan about elections etc instead of governing. It's that lack of critical thinking or maybe selective belief, again.

The state of the NHS in Scotland is better than that in England but the overall UK NHS woes can't be placed at the feet of the SNP. That's just lazy thinking and meaningless.

Think a lot of the tory lovers on this thread would change their minds in a miniute one the nhs is privatised like it will be in england soon,once they have to pay for uni fees for their children and pay prescription fees for terminally il relatives running to thousands a yr ,but hey they will take all they can but never give the snp any credit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The quicker Admin closes the thread the better before it creates any bad feeling between fellow members over political views.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The SNP are a joke.

When they lose the Independence Referendum for a second time in half a decade, they will simply retreat for another couple of years and come back and disrespect the democratic oath once again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The quicker Admin closes the thread the better before it creates any bad feeling between fellow members over political views.

Why ? Havent read any real nasty comments at all so why close it

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By *eADevilCouple
over a year ago

Blantyre

Why is it anyone with a different opinion of the snp or independence is a tory lover? Mind games to make us go a certain way . Nicola sturgeon is a great ambassador for Scotland but using her time playing games while she should be making Scotland great with all her power.

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By *ickeyo85Man
over a year ago

ayrshire

General erection, yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thing that seems to be ignored is that the SNP were elected last time with a clear manifesto regarding calling for another referendum if Brexit were to happen, by the largest constituency turnout in the history of Scottish politics. By pursuing the indyref, they are upholding what they were voted in FOR so it's clear why they pursue this again. That they do so should not really be a matter of comment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The quicker Admin closes the thread the better before it creates any bad feeling between fellow members over political views.

Why ? Havent read any real nasty comments at all so why close it "

We are too nice in the scottish forums lol

Few nasty comments over on the politics section and one particular thread in the lounge which thankfully has been closed.

Doesnt matter which party you support there is no need for vile or abusive comments .

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By *ighland gentlemanMan
over a year ago

Ardgay

I can't see how this election gives May any more of a mandate to negotiate with the EU.

She had the EU referendum on the back of the Tory majority.

Sheer political opportunitism to stay in power for an extra couple of years.

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By *earded villainMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

"I can't see how this election gives May any more of a mandate to negotiate with the EU.

She had the EU referendum on the back of the Tory majority.

Sheer political opportunitism to stay in power for an extra couple of years. "

its a power grab . clear and simple as i said before labour are a shambles . the lib dems may pjck up a few more seats as a result . the snp may drop a couple of seats as well but certainly nowhere near as drastic as the 30 seats claimed further up the thread . maggie maybis lookin to bolster the tory majority giving them a clear run at whatever austerity cuts they want .

ive said many times that im not a massive snp fan and disagree with many of their policies . they certainly aint flawless but over all whilst taking the hit for bedroom tax , free prescriptions and education they have done a not bad job . a dam site better than the mess labour put us in thats for certain all the while doing it with one hand tied behind their back as the torys implement massive cuts and austerity measures . the austerity measures that have seen national debt rise may i add !!

i hope for independance not for the snp but for the right to self determination, once that comes the snp will break up and there will be a real choice with good opposition in a free scotland .

until then i will back them . the lowlife scum that i am

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

The state of the NHS in Scotland is better than that in England but the overall UK NHS woes can't be placed at the feet of the SNP. That's just lazy thinking and meaningless.

So are you suggesting that it's ok for MSPs to ignore their ACTUAL jobs in favour of being allowed to weigh in on a general election which has no bearing on their parliament?

That's a bit like saying binmen should stop emptying bins and weigh in on why the grounds men have plants the daffodils in the middle of the roundabout.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But not voting for the SNP because you don't like sturgeon is like not getting on a lifeboat because you don't like the captain

Nothing will ever change in Scotland if we don't get independence our vote and voices count for nothing just now

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"The quicker Admin closes the thread the better before it creates any bad feeling between fellow members over political views.

Why ? Havent read any real nasty comments at all so why close it "
because users complained they wanted political posts moved to the politics section. Cant say anymore that step is cold

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By *ickedTemptationMan
over a year ago

Somewhere

To be honest, I cannot see any good the current Scottish government has done. They have near ruined the farming community, the local Elected candidates both backed the closure of our local hospital. Which by the way now relies on women who are in labour making a 120 mile trip to Inverness to have their babies. In dangerous conditions in winter. They have also backed large scale windmills to be constructed all over our local area and have never once supported the workforce who work in the nuclear industry within our area who are now facing redundancy. And yes I voted for SNP the last time, but if the politicians started to take an actual look at what was actually going on in the country they represent then we might just have a chance.

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"But not voting for the SNP because you don't like sturgeon is like not getting on a lifeboat because you don't like the captain

Nothing will ever change in Scotland if we don't get independence our vote and voices count for nothing just now

I'm not convinced by the arguments for independence. Never have been. There are far too many holes in it and the 'let's just do it and see' view doesn't appeal to me. I'd rather have a real plan with real numbers. But there is no one out there willing to do that because it will show ALL sides are liars and they are all wearing rose coloured glasses.

As far as complaining our votes and voices don't count - by that reckoning maybe we should cancel all elections and just have a dictator sitting on a throne made of cheese instead.

Every vote counts. It's called democracy. Unfortunately too many people can't respect the outcome and cry wolf if something doesn't go their way.

As I've said before, i don't like any politician as I think they are all in it for themselves.

I just wish they would shut up and actually do what they were elected to do in the first place.

Oh, hang on, if the MSPs don't do their jobs because they're focused on the general election and a second indyref, does that mean that NONE of the votes cast in the last Scottish election or the voices that called for the Scottish government to make things better count either?

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"To be honest, I cannot see any good the current Scottish government has done. They have near ruined the farming community, the local Elected candidates both backed the closure of our local hospital. Which by the way now relies on women who are in labour making a 120 mile trip to Inverness to have their babies. In dangerous conditions in winter. They have also backed large scale windmills to be constructed all over our local area and have never once supported the workforce who work in the nuclear industry within our area who are now facing redundancy. And yes I voted for SNP the last time, but if the politicians started to take an actual look at what was actually going on in the country they represent then we might just have a chance. "

Shhhhhhh

That would mean they are actually doing the job they were elected to

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As far as complaining our votes and voices don't count - by that reckoning maybe we should cancel all elections and just have a dictator sitting on a throne made of cheese instead

We ain't far off this just now!!

My point is

We did vote...Scotland voted overwhelming to stay in the EU...what happend?

Again England voted to leave...so we leave kicking and screaming

Yes we can vote and we do...but it does not count in a general election

England's vote will outnumber us everytime

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"As far as complaining our votes and voices don't count - by that reckoning maybe we should cancel all elections and just have a dictator sitting on a throne made of cheese instead

We ain't far off this just now!!

My point is

We did vote...Scotland voted overwhelming to stay in the EU...what happend?

Again England voted to leave...so we leave kicking and screaming

Yes we can vote and we do...but it does not count in a general election

England's vote will outnumber us everytime "

But that wasn't a Scottish vote. It was a U.K. Vote.

What about the indyref then? THAT was a Scottish vote.

Voted for ONLY by Scottish voters. And yet people are also complaining about the outcome of that too.

There's no point complaining about the English vote all the time. Especially since Scotland voted against independence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Leaving aside the independence referendum , brexit, and the other parties aim to keep the UK as a whole , what do you see either a tory or labour government doing for scotland?

How would they improve it ? Would they keep the free prescriptions, uni places etc ?

Genuinely interested in how people think a different government would improve Scotland.

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"Leaving aside the independence referendum , brexit, and the other parties aim to keep the UK as a whole , what do you see either a tory or labour government doing for scotland?

How would they improve it ? Would they keep the free prescriptions, uni places etc ?

Genuinely interested in how people think a different government would improve Scotland."

What would they do for Scotland? Absolutely sweet FA. Just as they do for the rest of the country.

Free prescriptions in Scotland are a Scottish government decision.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As far as complaining our votes and voices don't count - by that reckoning maybe we should cancel all elections and just have a dictator sitting on a throne made of cheese instead

We ain't far off this just now!!

My point is

We did vote...Scotland voted overwhelming to stay in the EU...what happend?

Again England voted to leave...so we leave kicking and screaming

Yes we can vote and we do...but it does not count in a general election

England's vote will outnumber us everytime

But that wasn't a Scottish vote. It was a U.K. Vote.

What about the indyref then? THAT was a Scottish vote.

Voted for ONLY by Scottish voters. And yet people are also complaining about the outcome of that too.

There's no point complaining about the English vote all the time. Especially since Scotland voted against independence "
Andy

..sorry but it was a Scottish vote...Scotland voted and it went the exact opposite what we voted

And I will always be on about the indyref until it happens as I want a better future for my kids

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"As far as complaining our votes and voices don't count - by that reckoning maybe we should cancel all elections and just have a dictator sitting on a throne made of cheese instead

We ain't far off this just now!!

My point is

We did vote...Scotland voted overwhelming to stay in the EU...what happend?

Again England voted to leave...so we leave kicking and screaming

Yes we can vote and we do...but it does not count in a general election

England's vote will outnumber us everytime

But that wasn't a Scottish vote. It was a U.K. Vote.

What about the indyref then? THAT was a Scottish vote.

Voted for ONLY by Scottish voters. And yet people are also complaining about the outcome of that too.

There's no point complaining about the English vote all the time. Especially since Scotland voted against independence Andy

..sorry but it was a Scottish vote...Scotland voted and it went the exact opposite what we voted

And I will always be on about the indyref until it happens as I want a better future for my kids "
confused how did it go the opposite?....the bit andy is missing out is (it would be something else if it wasnt this) the warcry for another indy vote is because indy supporters claim its being dragged kicking and screaming out the eu which creates a diffrent landscape to when the vote happened and we were a happy eu member

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

This is the sort of stuff which puzzles me about the SNP. They are supposedly the champions of Scotland, but they are potentially wrecking one of our greatest industries, tourism, by putting up wind turbines all over the place. If anybody should be supporting the more isolated parts of the country, it's the SNP, but instead they're shutting hospitals in them. And have we such short memories that we forget the farm subsidy shambles?

Surely we can expect much better from the SNP than what they have served up to us.

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

"But not voting for the SNP because you don't like sturgeon is like not getting on a lifeboat because you don't like the captain

Nothing will ever change in Scotland if we don't get independence our vote and voices count for nothing just now

As far as complaining our votes and voices don't count - by that reckoning maybe we should cancel all elections and just have a dictator sitting on a throne made of cheese instead.

Every vote counts. It's called democracy. Unfortunately too many people can't respect the outcome and cry wolf if something doesn't go their way.

As I've said before, i don't like any politician as I think they are all in it for themselves.

I just wish they would shut up and actually do what they were elected to do in the first place.

For an Englishman, your talking some sense, Andy!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As far as complaining our votes and voices don't count - by that reckoning maybe we should cancel all elections and just have a dictator sitting on a throne made of cheese instead

We ain't far off this just now!!

My point is

We did vote...Scotland voted overwhelming to stay in the EU...what happend?

Again England voted to leave...so we leave kicking and screaming

Yes we can vote and we do...but it does not count in a general election

England's vote will outnumber us everytime

But that wasn't a Scottish vote. It was a U.K. Vote.

What about the indyref then? THAT was a Scottish vote.

Voted for ONLY by Scottish voters. And yet people are also complaining about the outcome of that too.

There's no point complaining about the English vote all the time. Especially since Scotland voted against independence Andy

..sorry but it was a Scottish vote...Scotland voted and it went the exact opposite what we voted

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

"As far as complaining our votes and voices don't count - by that reckoning maybe we should cancel all elections and just have a dictator sitting on a throne made of cheese instead

We ain't far off this just now!!

My point is

We did vote...Scotland voted overwhelming to stay in the EU...what happend?

Again England voted to leave...so we leave kicking and screaming

Yes we can vote and we do...but it does not count in a general election

England's vote will outnumber us everytime

But that wasn't a Scottish vote. It was a U.K. Vote.

What about the indyref then? THAT was a Scottish vote.

Voted for ONLY by Scottish voters. And yet people are also complaining about the outcome of that too.

There's no point complaining about the English vote all the time. Especially since Scotland voted against independence "

Hear hear!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Threads like this have their place....let's us know the Tories to avoid meeting

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

Here's a wee surprise for you. I was always a Tory voter, coming from the more affluent 'sooth side' of Glasgow.

However, having moved away from there to an area where Labour had ruled forever, and seen the shambles they'd made of it despite numerous Labour governments in Westminster(!!!), I started to vote SNP!! I VOTED SNP IN SEVERAL ELECTIONS, AND WE EVENTUALLY GOT RID OF LABOUR. However, the SNP has been an awful disappointment, so much so that I've returned to the Tories.

But here's the real surprise, I WOULD CONTINUE VOTING SNP if they would drop the idea of staying in Europe. As Jim Sillars, an ex deputy leader of the party says, what's the point of getting independence from Westminster and then going cap in hand to Brussels. THAT'S NOT INDEPENDENCE!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Surely we can expect much better from the SNP than what they have served up to us."

So what do you expect a different scottish government to deliver?

What will they do for us, no point just shouting about what the current government do wrong , they do plenty wrong but also do a lot of good , so what will a new government bring to the table ?

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

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By *wiftiee OP Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

Surely we can expect much better from the SNP than what they have served up to us.

So what do you expect a different scottish government to deliver?

What will they do for us, no point just shouting about what the current government do wrong , they do plenty wrong but also do a lot of good , so what will a new government bring to the table ?"

Well it would be a good idea to see what Brexit brings, for a start.

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By *eather47Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

Just to make it clear i am NOT blaming the tories for everything but please face the truth they are not for the working class and never will be Any way lets all see what happens at the election in May

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"As far as complaining our votes and voices don't count - by that reckoning maybe we should cancel all elections and just have a dictator sitting on a throne made of cheese instead

We ain't far off this just now!!

My point is

We did vote...Scotland voted overwhelming to stay in the EU...what happend?

Again England voted to leave...so we leave kicking and screaming

Yes we can vote and we do...but it does not count in a general election

England's vote will outnumber us everytime

But that wasn't a Scottish vote. It was a U.K. Vote.

What about the indyref then? THAT was a Scottish vote.

Voted for ONLY by Scottish voters. And yet people are also complaining about the outcome of that too.

There's no point complaining about the English vote all the time. Especially since Scotland voted against independence Andy

..sorry but it was a Scottish vote...Scotland voted and it went the exact opposite what we voted

And I will always be on about the indyref until it happens as I want a better future for my kids "

I want a better future for my kids too. But not one of them can tell me how.

And I'm sorry, the EU referendum was not a Scottish vote, it was a UK vote.

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over a year ago

Surely we can expect much better from the SNP than what they have served up to us.

So what do you expect a different scottish government to deliver?

What will they do for us, no point just shouting about what the current government do wrong , they do plenty wrong but also do a lot of good , so what will a new government bring to the table ?

Well it would be a good idea to see what Brexit brings, for a start."

As i said previously disregarding brexit independence and the eu. This is about what party can do the best by the scottish people .

The day to day running of the country. As in my mind this is what this election should be about.

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over a year ago

The r*pe clause (site won't let me post the actual word). DLA to PIP. Bedroom tax. A leader who voted against same sex adoption. Withholding information about a Trident malfunction before a vote to renew it. Offer of a state visit to Donald Trump. Reneging on a pledge to take 300 child refugees after taking marginally over a tenth of that. Selling of arms to Saudi Arabia for use in their localised genocide of Yemen (Ruthy then had the cheek to take a wee photo op holding up a banner for the Yemen appeal). Slashing of ESA. I could go on.

None of the major parties are anywhere near perfect but only one is truly monstrous.

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

Mrs May is playing a very dangerous game (with Scotland and NI) for her own political gain ...since she came into power she has said on numerous occasions there would be No snap election ..ohh how times have changed in such a short period ...funny how she announces it now blaming labour and snp's stance over her brexit plans while she holds a majority in westminster..but if rumours are to be believed (and we will find out in a few weeks) the cps and electoral commision are about to announce 24 tory MPs charged with electoral fraud ...what would that do to her slim majority i wonder

..the result of this and backlash for westminster could further de-stabilise NI and bolster Scotlands indy chances ..this could seriously back fire on her and her arrogant tory party but then she is only interested in self preservation

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By *eonardo Da VinciMan
over a year ago

manchester

What a load of bull - dear oh dear....

Scotland has more than a fair share of voice in Westminster and its own executive in Scotland . The spending given by Westminster per person is more than the rest of the U.K gets and also more than Scotland generates, so the UK Subsidies this country profoundly! We would worse off outside of the U.K. Union without any doubt

Always a hard luck story that this nation is oppressed which could not be further from the truth. Only hatred and a Scottish of bleak inferiority drives these delusion of "freeeeedom"...

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By *eonardo Da VinciMan
over a year ago

manchester

The SNP are not the answer!

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over a year ago

"The SNP are not the answer! "

Then what is ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a load of bull - dear oh dear....

Always a hard luck story that this nation is oppressed which could not be further from the truth. Only hatred and a Scottish of bleak inferiority drives these delusion of "freeeeedom"...

"
and there you have it...

GIVEN BY WESTMINSTER

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

"What a load of bull - dear oh dear....

Always a hard luck story that this nation is oppressed which could not be further from the truth. Only hatred and a Scottish of bleak inferiority drives these delusion of "freeeeedom"...

Ok then if we are such a drain on the UK economy and the tories are hell bent on further austerity why in hell wouldnt they want to cut us free ...the rUk would be better off wouldnt they?? or am i missing something

as for your point about hatred ......REALLY!!!!! Your going with that arguement

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"The SNP are not the answer!

Then what is .... "

That is the best question I've seen -

Thing is, as I keep saying, all politicians are in it for themselves. There is no answer to the question until a party is created that is willing to fight for its young, old and sick alike.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I welcome paying for private health and university fees, I also look forward to a reduction in NI contributions to compensate. I would rather pay for what I use than subsidise all the proletariat!

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"As far as complaining our votes and voices don't count - by that reckoning maybe we should cancel all elections and just have a dictator sitting on a throne made of cheese instead

We ain't far off this just now!!

My point is

We did vote...Scotland voted overwhelming to stay in the EU...what happend?

Again England voted to leave...so we leave kicking and screaming

Yes we can vote and we do...but it does not count in a general election

England's vote will outnumber us everytime

But that wasn't a Scottish vote. It was a U.K. Vote.

What about the indyref then? THAT was a Scottish vote.

Voted for ONLY by Scottish voters. And yet people are also complaining about the outcome of that too.

There's no point complaining about the English vote all the time. Especially since Scotland voted against independence Andy

..sorry but it was a Scottish vote...Scotland voted and it went the exact opposite what we voted

And I will always be on about the indyref until it happens as I want a better future for my kids confused how did it go the opposite?....the bit andy is missing out is (it would be something else if it wasnt this) the warcry for another indy vote is because indy supporters claim its being dragged kicking and screaming out the eu which creates a diffrent landscape to when the vote happened and we were a happy eu memberthe bit where Scotland did not vote to leave the EU"
while I understand what your saying it was never an issue of the ind ref it was stay or go simple.there was no clauses for either side. so when the decision was reached to remain part of the uk you have to accept the uks vote to leave. Flip things on its head ind ref 2 goes ahead and it swings should there be another ind ref because the minority dont agree with leaving the eu of course there shouldnt. So why is it diffrent to the independant shouters. This is what I dont get acceptance is needed of the fact the majority dont want independance and are happy to vote as the uk on the whole.

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By *eonardo Da VinciMan
over a year ago

manchester

Delusions of Grandeur and full pride to admit to the facts!

Many people in other parts of the UK would rather see the back of Scotland, but surely it is best to have a United Island that is free to roam, free to trade which supports peace and prosperity. Throwing away a 300 year Union is rediculous to even contemplate in my view as for the 57% majority that voted to remain united.... Thankfully I don't see that changing

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over a year ago

"Yes I welcome paying for private health and university fees, I also look forward to a reduction in NI contributions to compensate. I would rather pay for what I use than subsidise all the proletariat!"

So your reduction in contributions would be greater that what you would pay for university fees and healthcare ?

And do you think another party in government would reduce your contributions ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Until you're really ill and the bill reaches all you can afford or insurance won't cover an existing condition. Then you're fucked. Or you watch a relative or friend who can't afford health care die and suffer with no dignity. Not so 'I'm all right Jack' then.

I know folks in the states who are being pursued for around $50k for an appendix op because the insurance they had only covered to a basic level.

That the kind of society we should be living in?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can afford it so fuck those who can't, peasants."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know folks in the states who are being pursued for around $50k for an appendix op because the insurance they had only covered to a basic level.

That the kind of society we should be living in? "

Some people welcome that unfair society, what better way to keep the peasants in line.. cant afford healthcare...just die then ..and god forbid a highly gift child from a low earning family would want to go to university.

Thank god the majority of scotland strive for a fair society and dont just want jobs for the boys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know folks in the states who are being pursued for around $50k for an appendix op because the insurance they had only covered to a basic level.

That the kind of society we should be living in?

Thank god the majority of scotland strive for a fair society and dont just want jobs for the boys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The SNP are not the answer!

Then what is ....

That is the best question I've seen -

Thing is, as I keep saying, all politicians are in it for themselves. There is no answer to the question until a party is created that is willing to fight for its young, old and sick alike.

To me that is what snp are doing

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

"The SNP are not the answer!

Then what is ....

That is the best question I've seen -

Thing is, as I keep saying, all politicians are in it for themselves. There is no answer to the question until a party is created that is willing to fight for its young, old and sick alike.

To me that is what snp are doing "

No, they aren't. They are busy pushing for independence and their own agenda. Whether that be for gain or just to enshrine their names in to history I don't know. And I don't care.

I've never been a fan of any political party but I wish John Smith hadn't died so young. I felt he could have done great things for the U.K. as a whole.

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over a year ago

Sad to see that no one can come up with reasons to vote for an alternative government.

SNP might not be the best , but they are the best scotland has at moment.

Until the status quo changes and other parties can deliver , my vote will go to SNP.

Will never vote for a party who favours the minority of the rich and continues to make life so unfair for the majority of the working class.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The SNP are not the answer!

Then what is ....

That is the best question I've seen -

Thing is, as I keep saying, all politicians are in it for themselves. There is no answer to the question until a party is created that is willing to fight for its young, old and sick alike.

To me that is what snp are doing

No, they aren't. They are busy pushing for independence and their own agenda. Whether that be for gain or just to enshrine their names in to history I don't know. And I don't care.

I've never been a fan of any political party but I wish John Smith hadn't died so young. I felt he could have done great things for the U.K. as a whole.

John Smith would have made a great P.M.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sad to see that no one can come up with reasons to vote for an alternative government.

SNP might not be the best , but they are the best scotland has at moment.

Until the status quo changes and other parties can deliver , my vote will go to SNP.

Will never vote for a party who favours the minority of the rich and continues to make life so unfair for the majority of the working class."

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