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 if sturgeon didnt call for it now it would be too late and we and our children would have to live with the consequences ..just hope neither will run campaigns of fear and run on facts tho i wont hold my breath | |||
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"I think we should re-play Saturdays rugby match as it wasn't the outcome we wanted!! " | |||
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"I give up. Maybe it's time to head off to pastures new as the last one was so very divisive. "Yep that's what we did. I still can't see how Scotland could self sustain itself. | |||
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"Didn't an snp leader once say once in a generation , that means about another 20 years surely ? " Yes, yes he did. | |||
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"Didn't an snp leader once say once in a generation , that means about another 20 years surely ? " That quote was soooo 2014 lol x | |||
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"Didn't an snp leader once say once in a generation , that means about another 20 years surely ? " its really not difficult in the snp manifesto it is clearly stated they would hold the right to call a second referendum should scotland be dragged out the eu against its will . scotland clearly voted to remain within the eu . but alas being dragged out regardless . thus the snp party are well within their rights to call indy2 . | |||
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"Didn't an snp leader once say once in a generation , that means about another 20 years surely ? its really not difficult in the snp manifesto it is clearly stated they would hold the right to call a second referendum should scotland be dragged out the eu against its will . scotland clearly voted to remain within the eu . but alas being dragged out regardless . thus the snp party are well within their rights to call indy2 ." And go against what they said at the last referendum 
Just out of curiosity, if we have a second one before the brexit negotiations are complete,
A - How will we know what to vote for?
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B - If Scotland decides to stay in the U.K. again, will we have another one in 2023?
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"Didn't an snp leader once say once in a generation , that means about another 20 years surely ? its really not difficult in the snp manifesto it is clearly stated they would hold the right to call a second referendum should scotland be dragged out the eu against its will . scotland clearly voted to remain within the eu . but alas being dragged out regardless . thus the snp party are well within their rights to call indy2 ." Oh, and another thing - if it's in the SNP manifesto, as they failed to get a majority that doesnt mean it has to be done because the majority of Scotland didnt elect them.... Or did I miss something?  | |||
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"Didn't an snp leader once say once in a generation , that means about another 20 years surely ? its really not difficult in the snp manifesto it is clearly stated they would hold the right to call a second referendum should scotland be dragged out the eu against its will . scotland clearly voted to remain within the eu . but alas being dragged out regardless . thus the snp party are well within their rights to call indy2 . And go against what they said at the last referendum
Just out of curiosity, if we have a second one before the brexit negotiations are complete,
A - How will we know what to vote for?
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B - If Scotland decides to stay in the U.K. again, will we have another one in 2023?
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"Didn't an snp leader once say once in a generation , that means about another 20 years surely ? its really not difficult in the snp manifesto it is clearly stated they would hold the right to call a second referendum should scotland be dragged out the eu against its will . scotland clearly voted to remain within the eu . but alas being dragged out regardless . thus the snp party are well within their rights to call indy2 . Oh, and another thing - if it's in the SNP manifesto, as they failed to get a majority that doesnt mean it has to be done because the majority of Scotland didnt elect them.... Or did I miss something? "The greens are backing them ..giving them a majority in holyrood | |||
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"Didn't an snp leader once say once in a generation , that means about another 20 years surely ? its really not difficult in the snp manifesto it is clearly stated they would hold the right to call a second referendum should scotland be dragged out the eu against its will . scotland clearly voted to remain within the eu . but alas being dragged out regardless . thus the snp party are well within their rights to call indy2 . Oh, and another thing - if it's in the SNP manifesto, as they failed to get a majority that doesnt mean it has to be done because the majority of Scotland didnt elect them.... Or did I miss something? "regardless of a majority goverment they won most seats and therfore in power . so they are following their manifesto . incredible to think that people that spout the politicians lie line are actually wanting a party to go against what they said they would do . surely this is a good thing ? maybe its just me . | |||
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"No-one has yet explained how it is possible for us to be in Europe on our own. We do not meet any financial criteria to enter the EU so surely the point is moot?" i would suspect that along with currency and economy will be major factors in the campaign . as i said above it would be crazy to claim the yes campaign eas flawless the last time and tbis time they can leave no uncertain answers . a bombproof campaign is required | |||
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"Didn't an snp leader once say once in a generation , that means about another 20 years surely ? its really not difficult in the snp manifesto it is clearly stated they would hold the right to call a second referendum should scotland be dragged out the eu against its will . scotland clearly voted to remain within the eu . but alas being dragged out regardless . thus the snp party are well within their rights to call indy2 . Oh, and another thing - if it's in the SNP manifesto, as they failed to get a majority that doesnt mean it has to be done because the majority of Scotland didnt elect them.... Or did I miss something?
The greens are backing them ..giving them a majority in holyrood "Errrr.....no. It still doesn't give the SNP a majority.
It just means the greens are willing to stand with them. The manifesto wasn't the green's manifesto
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"Didn't an snp leader once say once in a generation , that means about another 20 years surely ? its really not difficult in the snp manifesto it is clearly stated they would hold the right to call a second referendum should scotland be dragged out the eu against its will . scotland clearly voted to remain within the eu . but alas being dragged out regardless . thus the snp party are well within their rights to call indy2 . Oh, and another thing - if it's in the SNP manifesto, as they failed to get a majority that doesnt mean it has to be done because the majority of Scotland didnt elect them.... Or did I miss something?
regardless of a majority goverment they won most seats and therfore in power . so they are following their manifesto . incredible to think that people that spout the politicians lie line are actually wanting a party to go against what they said they would do . surely this is a good thing ? maybe its just me . "But didn't they also say they would work for the best for all of scotlands people when it comes to education/health/jobs etc? Seems like they've put that to one side because it suits them. | |||
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"Sorry but all the we want another this or that is an excuse to not accept what has been decided already by the majority of the country. " Exactly. We've been there, decided and done it. But because it's not what some people wanted we have to do it all over again? | |||
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"I was just wondering if the brexit deal gets delayed does the Indy vote get delayed as we were supposed to have an informed choice before voting !!! " Errrr..of course not....the brexit deal will take 2 years we are told. So how can we have an informed referendum before we know the outcome? | |||
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"I was just wondering if the brexit deal gets delayed does the Indy vote get delayed as we were supposed to have an informed choice before voting !!! " Brexit is on a fixed 2yr timeline from triggering A50 only way it will get delayed is if its delayed triggering but that will only be a matter of days not weeks or months | |||
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"I think we should re-play Saturdays rugby match as it wasn't the outcome we wanted!! " | |||
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"I was just wondering if the brexit deal gets delayed does the Indy vote get delayed as we were supposed to have an informed choice before voting !!! Brexit is on a fixed 2yr timeline from triggering A50 only way it will get delayed is if its delayed triggering but that will only be a matter of days not weeks or months "But Ms Sturgeon has said autumn 2018 - spring 2019 latest for a referendum. If A50 is triggered this week or next week, then 2 years will be march 2019....assuming the negotiations don't over run (this is Europe after all). Then wouldn't it be a good idea to actually digest the outcome first? | |||
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"Didn't an snp leader once say once in a generation , that means about another 20 years surely ? its really not difficult in the snp manifesto it is clearly stated they would hold the right to call a second referendum should scotland be dragged out the eu against its will . scotland clearly voted to remain within the eu . but alas being dragged out regardless . thus the snp party are well within their rights to call indy2 . Oh, and another thing - if it's in the SNP manifesto, as they failed to get a majority that doesnt mean it has to be done because the majority of Scotland didnt elect them.... Or did I miss something?
regardless of a majority goverment they won most seats and therfore in power . so they are following their manifesto . incredible to think that people that spout the politicians lie line are actually wanting a party to go against what they said they would do . surely this is a good thing ? maybe its just me . "Oh you mean exactly what happened in the uk government and the brexit vote ... yet in those scenarios the losers (ie snp) can shout about how unfair it is but in the holyrood example the people who didnt vote snp should just pipe down while they "drag" (i love the negative connotations of that word that is attached to brexit) us through another referrendum and potentially out of the uk and europe | |||
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"Having listened to the speech I thought I was supposed to get an informed choice. An agreement is nothing until it is signed so why are we voting early ?? " Because they are banking on the uncertainty and scaremongering that will come about as part of the negotiations winning them votes | |||
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"Having listened to the speech I thought I was supposed to get an informed choice. An agreement is nothing until it is signed so why are we voting early ?? Because they are banking on the uncertainty and scaremongering that will come about as part of the negotiations winning them votes " It worked for brexit. The options were stay or pick mystery box 1. It may be a high five or a kick in the nuts. We won't know for a few years. Seems pointless having it before we will know what deal we will get and how it will impact us. | |||
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"It's like Chinese fucking water torture!!! Might as well have another one, or six, cause the Scottish Numptie Party will keep going till they get the decision they want, or, as is my hope, implode along the way. Scotland is turning into a nation of bullies, not democrats. God help us. That is my last word on the subject. " | |||
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"So if ruk is definitely leaving the EU why is sturgeon waiting to see what the deal is ??? They are leaving she wants to stay so why not have I ndyref2 right now if it is such a good idea ??" because we don't have the power to sanction one Westminster must give permission | |||
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"So if ruk is definitely leaving the EU why is sturgeon waiting to see what the deal is ??? They are leaving she wants to stay so why not have I ndyref2 right now if it is such a good idea ??" because the decisions have already been made by the people wither you like the results or not. Independence failed, and the country as a whole (the UK) voted to leave the EU. it's about time people got over the fact and started to try work together instead of trying to create even more division, which is not going to work out the way Sturgeon and her supporters/followers think. | |||
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"So if ruk is definitely leaving the EU why is sturgeon waiting to see what the deal is ??? They are leaving she wants to stay so why not have I ndyref2 right now if it is such a good idea ?? because the decisions have already been made by the people wither you like the results or not. Independence failed, and the country as a whole (the UK) voted to leave the EU. it's about time people got over the fact and started to try work together instead of trying to create even more division, which is not going to work out the way Sturgeon and her supporters/followers think. " but its not division........if you just agree that most got it wrong and accept whatever those who shout loudest want.  | |||
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"The EU thing is a red herring. Scotland exports £12.3bn to the EU, we also export £49.8bn to the rest of the UK. If we leave the EU we lose free trade with them, if we leave the UK and join the EU we lose free trade with the UK. It's very clear which is the worst option. It should also be noted exports to the EU have been stagnant increasing from £11.4bn in 2002 to £12.3bn in 2015 whereas exports to the rest of the UK have increased massively from £28.6bn in 2002 to £49.8bn in 2015. " But obviously we want to swap a growing market for a stagnant one and take control from westminister and give it to brussels Whatever it takes to be rid of the big bad tories 
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" But obviously we want to swap a growing market for a stagnant one and take control from westminister and give it to brussels Whatever it takes to be rid of the big bad tories
"Yep, the big bad Tories who have increased expenditure in Scotland to it's highest ever level. The budget last week will see Scotland's expenditure increase by over £1bn next year. Not sure how the SNP will spin this one as the information is all on the Scottish govt website confirming this. | |||
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"I doubt it will work in my opinion way too many questions worries like oil was main focus last time thats at all time low and uk is our main export last time in my opinion was only time we could of won it." Im not sure ... I am a no voter but I will be worried that the result doesn't go my way ... I dont think much of the yes vote was based on oil ... i think its more about the freedom to make our own choices where the no camp tends to be significant number not prepared to take an unknown risk (so the current oil situation will keep them where they are) i honestly think the core of each set of voters will stick with their original vote ... not enough has changed for most be that oil or eu but the eu uncertainty might swing the people that were in the middle either way ... and with the vote being so close last time it wouldnt take much ... i reckon that exactly why sturgeon has chosen now ... after the pilitical fallout of brexit settles there wont be another chance again when things are already this up in the air | |||
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"My boss mentioned this morning that an independent Scotland wouldn't meet the criteria to join the EU, if that's true then that's also something to consider. We'd be totally alone." Your boss is wrong. Scotland, meets all the criteria for membership. Every. Single. One. Even the Spanish, whom the Unionists love to claim (falsely) would block Scottish membership, agree that this is the case. | |||
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"My boss mentioned this morning that an independent Scotland wouldn't meet the criteria to join the EU, if that's true then that's also something to consider. We'd be totally alone. Your boss is wrong. Scotland, meets all the criteria for membership. Every. Single. One. Even the Spanish, whom the Unionists love to claim (falsely) would block Scottish membership, agree that this is the case. " Really?????????? Central Bank? Currency? Or have I missed the formation of these? | |||
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"It's like Chinese fucking water torture!!! Might as well have another one, or six, cause the Scottish Numptie Party will keep going till they get the decision they want, or, as is my hope, implode along the way. Scotland is turning into a nation of bullies, not democrats. God help us. That is my last word on the subject. " | |||
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"Theresa May states that there will be no independence referedum ahead of Brexit. Good on you Theresa, although I'm sure it won't shut up head winger Sturgeon!! Why is it so difficult to undertand, we had a referendum and voted to stay in the UK. End of!! "Well said. | |||
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"It's like Chinese fucking water torture!!! Might as well have another one, or six, cause the Scottish Numptie Party will keep going till they get the decision they want, or, as is my hope, implode along the way. Scotland is turning into a nation of bullies, not democrats. God help us. That is my last word on the subject. "its disappointing to read such drivel, when others have put over some well thought out comments. The SNP clearly put in their manifesto that they would have the right to call another referendum should there be drastic change or if they were pulled out of the EU. Then they were re-elected back into power. It is only right that they ensure their pledge is kept and only right that they call another referendum as this was a promise to the people of Scotland that voted them into Power. . We all remember at the last referendum we were given the option to vote remain, to stay in the UK and stay in the EU, and look how that turned out. . It will be interesting days ahead, but today, Teresa May has just fell into the SNP's honey trap, perfect timing for this weekends SNP conference in Aberdeen . As much as many dislike the SNP, they have indeed thought things out well and have timed things perfectly. . They have also encouraged Labour to walk hand in hand with Tories, which in turn will be the final death of Labour in Scotland. . oh, and the people of Scotland don't need gods help, the people of Scotland can stand on their own two feet | |||
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" The SNP clearly put in their manifesto that they would have the right to call another referendum should there be drastic change or if they were pulled out of the EU. Then they weright that they ensure their pledge is kept and only right that they call another referendum as this was a promise to the people of Scotland that voted them into Power. . We all remember at the last referendum we were given the option to vote remain, to stay in the UK and stay in the EU, and look how that turned out. . " But they came into power WITHOUT A MAJORITY. | |||
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"It's like Chinese fucking water torture!!! Might as well have another one, or six, cause the Scottish Numptie Party will keep going till they get the decision they want, or, as is my hope, implode along the way. Scotland is turning into a nation of bullies, not democrats. God help us. That is my last word on the subject.
its disappointing to read such drivel, when others have put over some well thought out comments.
The SNP clearly put in their manifesto that they would have the right to call another referendum should there be drastic change or if they were pulled out of the EU. Then they were re-elected back into power.
It is only right that they ensure their pledge is kept and only right that they call another referendum as this was a promise to the people of Scotland that voted them into Power.
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We all remember at the last referendum we were given the option to vote remain, to stay in the UK and stay in the EU, and look how that turned out.
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It will be interesting days ahead, but today, Teresa May has just fell into the SNP's honey trap, perfect timing for this weekends SNP conference in Aberdeen
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As much as many dislike the SNP, they have indeed thought things out well and have timed things perfectly.
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They have also encouraged Labour to walk hand in hand with Tories, which in turn will be the final death of Labour in Scotland.
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oh, and the people of Scotland don't need gods help, the people of Scotland can stand on their own two feet"Care to count how many more manifesto pledges go undelivered ? Its just convenient that it would be inconstitutional to ignore this one as it drives the SNP agenda However i do agree with your honey trap comment ... theresa may was backed into a corner here with a game she could never win and it will only fuel the fire of the people who hate the tories and dont want them to make our decisions ... | |||
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" Circumstances have changed since 2014 due to being removed from the EU despite voting to stay . " It was a UK vote not a Scotland vote. | |||
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"It's like Chinese fucking water torture!!! Might as well have another one, or six, cause the Scottish Numptie Party will keep going till they get the decision they want, or, as is my hope, implode along the way. Scotland is turning into a nation of bullies, not democrats. God help us. That is my last word on the subject.
its disappointing to read such drivel, when others have put over some well thought out comments.
"Drivel is it?? This is an open forum where people are able to express their OPINIONS!!! | |||
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"It's like Chinese fucking water torture!!! Might as well have another one, or six, cause the Scottish Numptie Party will keep going till they get the decision they want, or, as is my hope, implode along the way. Scotland is turning into a nation of bullies, not democrats. God help us. That is my last word on the subject.
its disappointing to read such drivel, when others have put over some well thought out comments.
Drivel is it?? This is an open forum where people are able to express their OPINIONS!!!"indeed. and my opinion is that the comment was drivel, as well as foul language and name calling such as some children would do at school. just my opinion, strange how you get so upset | |||
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" Circumstances have changed since 2014 due to being removed from the EU despite voting to stay . It was a UK vote not a Scotland vote." Really? Our votes were a part of this? It doesn't just go down whatever way England decide to vote? So our 62% to stay made a difference to the overall vote, then? Here's a fact (and you can do the numbers yourself to prove it): If all 2,700,000 people who voted in Scotland all voted remain, the result would have been exactly the same. Could you still say it's a UK vote? Equal partners, my arse. | |||
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"It's like Chinese fucking water torture!!! Might as well have another one, or six, cause the Scottish Numptie Party will keep going till they get the decision they want, or, as is my hope, implode along the way. Scotland is turning into a nation of bullies, not democrats. God help us. That is my last word on the subject.
its disappointing to read such drivel, when others have put over some well thought out comments.
Drivel is it?? This is an open forum where people are able to express their OPINIONS!!!
indeed. and my opinion is that the comment was drivel, as well as foul language and name calling such as some children would do at school.
just my opinion, strange how you get so upset"Time for you to come down off your high horse!!!! | |||
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"In my view, we're entitled to a choice. I don't feel any of the better together promises were kept. Circumstances have changed since 2014 due to being removed from the EU despite voting to stay and so many people have changed their minds on the independence matter and should be given the opportunity to vote again. May can't block a second referendum, btw. Hence why she kept repeating "now is not the time" in her speech. But her attempt to delay it will only further prove the point that as long as we're part of the UK, Scotland's voice doesn't matter. It will anger the Scottish people. A yes vote this time around just looks significantly more viable than it did in 2014. A UK outside the EU (who are looking to be playing with fire by angering the EU before the brexit negotiations have even started) will need to have an economic case made for it in a second indyref, as opposed to the other way about." This is not a general election ... so you actually dont get the opportunity to change your mind and vote again on a whim and that is by design as once the decision is made there wont be another vote when people change their mind back again ... there hasnt even been a full term in either west minister or holyrood yet and people already want to change their mind ... so look how quickly the tide could swing nack again... thats why it should be the once in a generation vote that we were originally promised ... politics change all the time from month to month, year to year and you cant just throw the toys out the pram and say we are leaving every time a decision doesn't go your way ... we were only in the eu for 1 generation really ... so whos to say in the next generation the political landscape wont be entirely different again and then its too late ... the answer this time was no thanks ... its time people accepted that | |||
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"In my view, we're entitled to a choice. I don't feel any of the better together promises were kept. Circumstances have changed since 2014 due to being removed from the EU despite voting to stay and so many people have changed their minds on the independence matter and should be given the opportunity to vote again. May can't block a second referendum, btw. Hence why she kept repeating "now is not the time" in her speech. But her attempt to delay it will only further prove the point that as long as we're part of the UK, Scotland's voice doesn't matter. It will anger the Scottish people. A yes vote this time around just looks significantly more viable than it did in 2014. A UK outside the EU (who are looking to be playing with fire by angering the EU before the brexit negotiations have even started) will need to have an economic case made for it in a second indyref, as opposed to the other way about. This is not a general election ... so you actually dont get the opportunity to change your mind and vote again on a whim and that is by design as once the decision is made there wont be another vote when people change their mind back again ... there hasnt even been a full term in either west minister or holyrood yet and people already want to change their mind ... so look how quickly the tide could swing nack again... thats why it should be the once in a generation vote that we were originally promised ... politics change all the time from month to month, year to year and you cant just throw the toys out the pram and say we are leaving every time a decision doesn't go your way ... we were only in the eu for 1 generation really ... so whos to say in the next generation the political landscape wont be entirely different again and then its too late ... the answer this time was no thanks ... its time people accepted that " Hear hear, and it was Alex Salmond who said "once in a generation"!!! | |||
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"In my view, we're entitled to a choice. I don't feel any of the better together promises were kept. Circumstances have changed since 2014 due to being removed from the EU despite voting to stay and so many people have changed their minds on the independence matter and should be given the opportunity to vote again. May can't block a second referendum, btw. Hence why she kept repeating "now is not the time" in her speech. But her attempt to delay it will only further prove the point that as long as we're part of the UK, Scotland's voice doesn't matter. It will anger the Scottish people. A yes vote this time around just looks significantly more viable than it did in 2014. A UK outside the EU (who are looking to be playing with fire by angering the EU before the brexit negotiations have even started) will need to have an economic case made for it in a second indyref, as opposed to the other way about. This is not a general election ... so you actually dont get the opportunity to change your mind and vote again on a whim and that is by design as once the decision is made there wont be another vote when people change their mind back again ... there hasnt even been a full term in either west minister or holyrood yet and people already want to change their mind ... so look how quickly the tide could swing nack again... thats why it should be the once in a generation vote that we were originally promised ... politics change all the time from month to month, year to year and you cant just throw the toys out the pram and say we are leaving every time a decision doesn't go your way ... we were only in the eu for 1 generation really ... so whos to say in the next generation the political landscape wont be entirely different again and then its too late ... the answer this time was no thanks ... its time people accepted that " ScotRef is a totally different issue, the referendum has to be called as written in the manifesto So many cried & voted remain so they could stay in the EU, this is no longer the case The people of Scotland are entitled to a Scotref and Mays mind will be forced on this, today she fell into a trap and she will have to crawl out of that trap | |||
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"Scotref?? Really?? It is an independence referendum that the SNP want. There is no way to have a referendum without ALL the information. We won't have that until after the negotiations are complete. That is what Theresa May has said. Can people just not accept that IF we are going to have another one, we need all the information not best guess again "we had one on brexit and had no information on that the people leading that campaign stepped down the next day with no plan in place. | |||
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"Scotref?? Really?? It is an independence referendum that the SNP want. There is no way to have a referendum without ALL the information. We won't have that until after the negotiations are complete. That is what Theresa May has said. Can people just not accept that IF we are going to have another one, we need all the information not best guess again we had one on brexit and had no information on that the people leading that campaign stepped down the next day with no plan in place."Is that not just an example confirming that things should not be rushed into? I refer you back to my out of the frying pan and into the fire comment | |||
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"Scotref?? Really?? It is an independence referendum that the SNP want. There is no way to have a referendum without ALL the information. We won't have that until after the negotiations are complete. That is what Theresa May has said. Can people just not accept that IF we are going to have another one, we need all the information not best guess again "Haha really? Were was the information on brexit ?the plan for after brexit? If you seen davis on tv yesterday the guy never had a clue about anything ,it bothers me that so many scots trust the tories because they do not give a fuck for anyone but their rich mates | |||
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Haha really? Were was the information on brexit ?the plan for after brexit? If you seen davis on tv yesterday the guy never had a clue about anything ,it bothers me that so many scots trust the tories because they do not give a fuck for anyone but their rich mates "You seem to have mistaken me for a Tory supporter 
Christ no!!!
However, I don't believe there is more than a handful of honest politicians out there either in holyrood or Westminster.
They are ALL self serving pricks in my humble opinion.
Instead of actually trying to help the people of Scotland and the uk as a whole, they are ALL trying to work out how to either make a name for themselves or money for themselves.
This is another example of that.
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However, I don't believe there is more than a handful of honest politicians out there either in holyrood or Westminster.
They are ALL self serving pricks in my humble opinion.
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Christ no!!!
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They are ALL self serving pricks in my humble opinion.
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This is another example of that.
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Should we spend money on yet another referendum OR on more nurses or teachers?? "I never said you were a tory you made a statement saying you cant have a referendum without all the information but the tories had one for brexit without having a clue what will happen ,also any referendum will be funded by donations | |||
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"It's like Chinese fucking water torture!!! Might as well have another one, or six, cause the Scottish Numptie Party will keep going till they get the decision they want, or, as is my hope, implode along the way. Scotland is turning into a nation of bullies, not democrats. God help us. That is my last word on the subject.
its disappointing to read such drivel, when others have put over some well thought out comments.
The SNP clearly put in their manifesto that they would have the right to call another referendum should there be drastic change or if they were pulled out of the EU. Then they were re-elected back into power.
It is only right that they ensure their pledge is kept and only right that they call another referendum as this was a promise to the people of Scotland that voted them into Power.
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" Circumstances have changed since 2014 due to being removed from the EU despite voting to stay . It was a UK vote not a Scotland vote. Really? Our votes were a part of this? It doesn't just go down whatever way England decide to vote? So our 62% to stay made a difference to the overall vote, then? Here's a fact (and you can do the numbers yourself to prove it): If all 2,700,000 people who voted in Scotland all voted remain, the result would have been exactly the same. Could you still say it's a UK vote? Equal partners, my arse." there are approx 4.2 million voters in Scotland and a third of them love the EU so much they never bothered voting to stay or leave it. | |||
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" there are approx 4.2 million voters in Scotland and a third of them love the EU so much they never bothered voting to stay or leave it. Another way of putting it would be that 1/3 of scottish voters know its not worth the time going to the polling station when the english outnumber us 10 to 1. But that is the nature of our democracy, I suppose. 51% can vote to screw over the other 49%. Hence the tory govt we didn't vote for..." So, you don't like democracy now? Jeezo
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"If anyone actually believes the SNP are demanding this for the benefit of the people of Scotland can they please get back on their medication. Lets all remember when NS says the people of Scotland demand this she isn't speaking as a First Minister with a majority and therefore cant claim to be speaking for a majority, she is speaking for her own personal self promotion and aggrandisemant. I think you will find she is speaking for the vast majority who voted her into power as well as many who voted "remain" in the EU referendum, sadly far too many submissive Scots on this forum suffer from Stockholm syndrome, they love and worship their Westminster masters far too much, rather than stand up and be counted Since we are on a swinging site afterall lets take your sub metaphor and extend it ... maybe some submissives realise that they have more power than first meets the eye, there are still plenty benefits to be had in that relationship and they dont need to be the dominant player to reap those benefits and it sure as hell beats masturbating at home on your own
if that is their wish, I will ignore them as they suck Westminster cock, their only worthwhile forum reply will be SS - Stockholm Syndrome "Would you like me to come and tuck you in? Because as you know, petulant children who don't get their way have to go to bed early as a punishment for stropping. I'll tuck you in next to Nic. Then the rest of us will engage in a real debate rather than trying (and failing) to be clever and slagging people off when they ask you simple questions and debunk what you've said. IF you want a grown up debate, bring your grown up arguements, let them be scrutinised and IF they don't add up, don't be surprised if you get called out on them | |||
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"If anyone actually believes the SNP are demanding this for the benefit of the people of Scotland can they please get back on their medication. Lets all remember when NS says the people of Scotland demand this she isn't speaking as a First Minister with a majority and therefore cant claim to be speaking for a majority, she is speaking for her own personal self promotion and aggrandisemant. I think you will find she is speaking for the vast majority who voted her into power as well as many who voted "remain" in the EU referendum, sadly far too many submissive Scots on this forum suffer from Stockholm syndrome, they love and worship their Westminster masters far too much, rather than stand up and be counted Since we are on a swinging site afterall lets take your sub metaphor and extend it ... maybe some submissives realise that they have more power than first meets the eye, there are still plenty benefits to be had in that relationship and they dont need to be the dominant player to reap those benefits and it sure as hell beats masturbating at home on your own
if that is their wish, I will ignore them as they suck Westminster cock, their only worthwhile forum reply will be SS - Stockholm Syndrome
Would you like me to come and tuck you in? Because as you know, petulant children who don't get their way have to go to bed early as a punishment for stropping.
I'll tuck you in next to Nic.
Then the rest of us will engage in a real debate rather than trying (and failing) to be clever and slagging people off when they ask you simple questions and debunk what you've said.
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"I voted to indy last time thinking we would rule ourselves the great cry of FREEDOM. ... I voted to leave EU. Old enough to agree with the original "common market" as it was in 74 .. But this Euro superstate is not what I want. Laws and regulations and rules dictated by Hans and Pierre and unelected cohort's. NS is selling a lie and using anything as an excuse. Scotland voted to remain in UK. UK voted to leave EU.. What us so complicated? London voted to stay in EU.. More people live in London than in Scotland. Should we go round the UK region by region city by city town by town? As a lifelong SNP and indy supporter I was never very keen on Mr Salmon but his spawning Ms sturgeon is even more fishy I would love an independent Scotland. Indy of England and the EU. But I would rather find our place in the world as part of the UK , Rather than being a minor nation at the behest of Brussels and Strasbourget. Ms NS is kidding herself and the country on if she thinks what are our true rulers at present will welcome us as partners. CRY FREEDOM Stay UK Disgusted with SNP (EX lifelong voter)" being captive does that to many, Stockholm syndrome is nothing to be ashamed off, you love your captives we can understand your weakness | |||
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"I voted to indy last time thinking we would rule ourselves the great cry of FREEDOM. ... I voted to leave EU. Old enough to agree with the original "common market" as it was in 74 .. But this Euro superstate is not what I want. Laws and regulations and rules dictated by Hans and Pierre and unelected cohort's. NS is selling a lie and using anything as an excuse. Scotland voted to remain in UK. UK voted to leave EU.. What us so complicated? London voted to stay in EU.. More people live in London than in Scotland. Should we go round the UK region by region city by city town by town? As a lifelong SNP and indy supporter I was never very keen on Mr Salmon but his spawning Ms sturgeon is even more fishy I would love an independent Scotland. Indy of England and the EU. But I would rather find our place in the world as part of the UK , Rather than being a minor nation at the behest of Brussels and Strasbourget. Ms NS is kidding herself and the country on if she thinks what are our true rulers at present will welcome us as partners. CRY FREEDOM Stay UK Disgusted with SNP (EX lifelong voter)" Hear hear, exactly what Jim Sillars asks!! | |||
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"I voted to indy last time thinking we would rule ourselves the great cry of FREEDOM. ... I voted to leave EU. Old enough to agree with the original "common market" as it was in 74 .. But this Euro superstate is not what I want. Laws and regulations and rules dictated by Hans and Pierre and unelected cohort's. NS is selling a lie and using anything as an excuse. Scotland voted to remain in UK. UK voted to leave EU.. What us so complicated? London voted to stay in EU.. More people live in London than in Scotland. Should we go round the UK region by region city by city town by town? As a lifelong SNP and indy supporter I was never very keen on Mr Salmon but his spawning Ms sturgeon is even more fishy I would love an independent Scotland. Indy of England and the EU. But I would rather find our place in the world as part of the UK , Rather than being a minor nation at the behest of Brussels and Strasbourget. Ms NS is kidding herself and the country on if she thinks what are our true rulers at present will welcome us as partners. CRY FREEDOM Stay UK Disgusted with SNP (EX lifelong voter) being captive does that to many, Stockholm syndrome is nothing to be ashamed off, you love your captives we can understand your weakness "Being captive to UK is much lesser an evil than being held captive by this unelected "superstate ". The Stockholm syndrome has been supesceded by the Strasbourge Syndrome . What's weak about talking about the unspoken . Who is brainwashed ? Disgusted ex lifelong SNP Supporter. | |||
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"Wee Krankie can fuck off Scotland is not getting dragged out the EU against its will, The UK (England, Scotland, Wales and NI) together voted to leave The YES vote will lose again anyway and hopefully that is then end of this absolute pish" As I recall, the majority (almost all) Scotland voted stay. However as a total the vote was to leave. With this being the case, how is the Scottish voice supposed to be heard when our population is dwarfed by the combination of England, Wales and northern Ireland? Imagine if all Scottish ppl disagreed on future votes but the other 3 nations disagree meaning that the Scottish ppl are always over ruled | |||
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"Wee Krankie can fuck off Scotland is not getting dragged out the EU against its will, The UK (England, Scotland, Wales and NI) together voted to leave The YES vote will lose again anyway and hopefully that is then end of this absolute pish As I recall, the majority (almost all) Scotland voted stay. However as a total the vote was to leave. With this being the case, how is the Scottish voice supposed to be heard when our population is dwarfed by the combination of England, Wales and northern Ireland? Imagine if all Scottish ppl disagreed on future votes but the other 3 nations disagree meaning that the Scottish ppl are always over ruled" And yet, a recent pol suggested that the 'majority' of Scottish voters would rather see the SNP actually deliver on their promises of a better Scotland, better health, better education, better welfare system than worry about another referendum | |||
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"Wee Krankie can fuck off Scotland is not getting dragged out the EU against its will, The UK (England, Scotland, Wales and NI) together voted to leave The YES vote will lose again anyway and hopefully that is then end of this absolute pish As I recall, the majority (almost all) Scotland voted stay. However as a total the vote was to leave. With this being the case, how is the Scottish voice supposed to be heard when our population is dwarfed by the combination of England, Wales and northern Ireland? Imagine if all Scottish ppl disagreed on future votes but the other 3 nations disagree meaning that the Scottish ppl are always over ruled And yet, a recent pol suggested that the 'majority' of Scottish voters would rather see the SNP actually deliver on their promises of a better Scotland, better health, better education, better welfare system than worry about another referendum "I'm still of the opinion that Scotland couldn't afford to run itself. .Education, health,welfare etc run into billions. For a country with such a small working population taxes would be astronomical.. . Or is the SNP hoping to be in the EU just to live off hand outs from Brussels? | |||
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"Wee Krankie can fuck off Scotland is not getting dragged out the EU against its will, The UK (England, Scotland, Wales and NI) together voted to leave The YES vote will lose again anyway and hopefully that is then end of this absolute pish As I recall, the majority (almost all) Scotland voted stay. However as a total the vote was to leave. With this being the case, how is the Scottish voice supposed to be heard when our population is dwarfed by the combination of England, Wales and northern Ireland? Imagine if all Scottish ppl disagreed on future votes but the other 3 nations disagree meaning that the Scottish ppl are always over ruled And yet, a recent pol suggested that the 'majority' of Scottish voters would rather see the SNP actually deliver on their promises of a better Scotland, better health, better education, better welfare system than worry about another referendum
I'm still of the opinion that Scotland couldn't afford to run itself. .Education, health,welfare etc run into billions.
For a country with such a small working population taxes would be astronomical.. .
Or is the SNP hoping to be in the EU just to live off hand outs from Brussels?
"That's why staying in the UK and taking westminsters money is a good option. The EU isn't going to give us money. They'll take take take as usual | |||
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"Wee Krankie can fuck off Scotland is not getting dragged out the EU against its will, The UK (England, Scotland, Wales and NI) together voted to leave The YES vote will lose again anyway and hopefully that is then end of this absolute pish As I recall, the majority (almost all) Scotland voted stay. However as a total the vote was to leave. With this being the case, how is the Scottish voice supposed to be heard when our population is dwarfed by the combination of England, Wales and northern Ireland? Imagine if all Scottish ppl disagreed on future votes but the other 3 nations disagree meaning that the Scottish ppl are always over ruled And yet, a recent pol suggested that the 'majority' of Scottish voters would rather see the SNP actually deliver on their promises of a better Scotland, better health, better education, better welfare system than worry about another referendum
I'm still of the opinion that Scotland couldn't afford to run itself. .Education, health,welfare etc run into billions.
For a country with such a small working population taxes would be astronomical.. .
Or is the SNP hoping to be in the EU just to live off hand outs from Brussels?
That's why staying in the UK and taking westminsters money is a good option. The EU isn't going to give us money. They'll take take take as usual " | |||
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"Seems to be an awful lot of Quisling types on here." Explanation for that statement is? | |||
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"Seems to be an awful lot of Quisling types on here." That comment doesnt help anyone ppl have different opinions and vote who they think is right no harm in that | |||
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"For me the yes campaign failed with banking the whole economy would survive mainly through our oil...that went a wee bit tits up lately. I'm still open either way" that's the view of many that "oil has gone tits up" Oil production flow from North Sea is doing very well and the "huge reserves" West of Shetland are coming on line, and these are "huge reserves" anyone who works in the oil industry knows this, they also know the price of oil fluctuates, same as it was down to $12 a barrel in 1999, but that value was kept hush in 2014 Westminster just hopes the small minded people of Scotland continue to believe the BBC and other corrupt broadcasters | |||
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"For me the yes campaign failed with banking the whole economy would survive mainly through our oil...that went a wee bit tits up lately. I'm still open either way that's the view of many that "oil has gone tits up" Oil production flow from North Sea is doing very well and the "huge reserves" West of Shetland are coming on line, and these are "huge reserves" anyone who works in the oil industry knows this, they also know the price of oil fluctuates, same as it was down to $12 a barrel in 1999, but that value was kept hush in 2014 Westminster just hopes the small minded people of Scotland continue to believe the BBC and other corrupt broadcasters " lol small minded.......well as long as you dont agree with me. Here it is in simple terms figures are obviously wrong but shows the point im making in a year you get 100 barrels now at $100 a barrel thats an income of $10 000 when the ass drops out it to $20 a barrel thats only $2000. It makes little to no diffrence what the reserve is as thats for subsequent years. Face it a bobo was dropped and is being proved right now | |||
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"For me the yes campaign failed with banking the whole economy would survive mainly through our oil...that went a wee bit tits up lately. I'm still open either way that's the view of many that "oil has gone tits up" Oil production flow from North Sea is doing very well and the "huge reserves" West of Shetland are coming on line, and these are "huge reserves" anyone who works in the oil industry knows this, they also know the price of oil fluctuates, same as it was down to $12 a barrel in 1999, but that value was kept hush in 2014 Westminster just hopes the small minded people of Scotland continue to believe the BBC and other corrupt broadcasters lol small minded.......well as long as you dont agree with me. Here it is in simple terms figures are obviously wrong but shows the point im making in a year you get 100 barrels now at $100 a barrel thats an income of $10 000 when the ass drops out it to $20 a barrel thats only $2000. It makes little to no diffrence what the reserve is as thats for subsequent years. Face it a bobo was dropped and is being proved right now " you are aware the price of Brent crude is $51.76 right now, and the difference in price of light & heavy ends don't you ofcourse reserves matter, why do you think Westminster is so desperate to keep Scotland onside, and why do you think scotlands taxation is dealt with in Westminster and not Scotland why do you put $20 per barrel in your above quote? | |||
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"For me the yes campaign failed with banking the whole economy would survive mainly through our oil...that went a wee bit tits up lately. I'm still open either way that's the view of many that "oil has gone tits up" Oil production flow from North Sea is doing very well and the "huge reserves" West of Shetland are coming on line, and these are "huge reserves" anyone who works in the oil industry knows this, they also know the price of oil fluctuates, same as it was down to $12 a barrel in 1999, but that value was kept hush in 2014 Westminster just hopes the small minded people of Scotland continue to believe the BBC and other corrupt broadcasters " The poster is correct, there is plenty of oil in the north sea and production is up. The big but is The price is low and won't go up much in the near future due to Trump giving tax breakes to the fracors in the USA. The low price impacts on the investment in the north sea so the cash bonaza will not happen anytime soon. This is the major down side of oil. Obviously it is much better to have this reasource than not. | |||
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" Why $20 To make it simple for us small minded folk to see the diffrence. It does actually say using simple figures." Warchild believes that those who voted No are "cowards" and "scum". It's a trait that seems to run in some of those who support the independence cause. But then again the party leader summed it up perfectly -"Independence trancends all". They don't care about your job, income, health or family. They only care for "freedom" and would be happy to sacrifice your family, job and all you hold dear on the nationalist alter. | |||
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" Why $20 To make it simple for us small minded folk to see the diffrence. It does actually say using simple figures. Warchild believes that those who voted No are "cowards" and "scum". It's a trait that seems to run in some of those who support the independence cause. But then again the party leader summed it up perfectly -"Independence trancends all". They don't care about your job, income, health or family. They only care for "freedom" and would be happy to sacrifice your family, job and all you hold dear on the nationalist alter. " | |||
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"Flash news The sainted Nic has just announced a change in the SNP. It now s_ands for Scottish Neverendum Party. All and any other SNP policies or manifesto pledges are now null and void and have been sacrificed at the altar of "getting what we want, regardless"" | |||
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"Didn't an snp leader once say once in a generation , that means about another 20 years surely ? its really not difficult in the snp manifesto it is clearly stated they would hold the right to calreferendum should scotland be dragged out the eu against its will . scotland clearly voted to remain within the eu . but alas being dragged out regardless . thus the snp party are well within their rights to call indy2 . And go against what they said at the last referendum
Just out of curiosity, if we have a second one before the brexit negotiations are complete,
A - How will we know what to vote for?
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B - If Scotland decides to stay in the U.K. again, will we have another one in 2023?
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"Didn't an snp leader once say once in a generation , that means about another 20 years surely ? its really not difficult in the snp manifesto it is clearly stated they would hold the right to calreferendum should scotland be dragged out the eu against its will . scotland clearly voted to remain within the eu . but alas being dragged out regardless . thus the snp party are well within their rights to call indy2 . And go against what they said at the last referendum
Just out of curiosity, if we have a second one before the brexit negotiations are complete,
A - How will we know what to vote for?
and
B - If Scotland decides to stay in the U.K. again, will we have another one in 2023?
are you Scottish do you have Scottish blood pumping through your veins we are a country not a county grow a pair "There we go guys ... thats the piece of info we had been missing all along ... its scottish blood we need to support an economy! | |||
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"Didn't an snp leader once say once in a generation , that means about another 20 years surely ? its really not difficult in the snp manifesto it is clearly stated they would hold the right to calreferendum should scotland be dragged out the eu against its will . scotland clearly voted to remain within the eu . but alas being dragged out regardless . thus the snp party are well within their rights to call indy2 . And go against what they said at the last referendum
Just out of curiosity, if we have a second one before the brexit negotiations are complete,
A - How will we know what to vote for?
and
B - If Scotland decides to stay in the U.K. again, will we have another one in 2023?
are you Scottish do you have Scottish blood pumping through your veins we are a country not a county grow a pair
There we go guys ... thats the piece of info we had been missing all along ... its scottish blood we need to support an economy! "No one ever mentions the Scottish Green Party what's wrong with us greens wanting Independence | |||
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"The greens had in their manifesto that they would support another ref once there was a one million signature pation. Guess what ??? It has disappeared from the online manifesto !!! Maybe Nicola told we pat to get it removed !!!!!" Wee Paddy Harvey, Nic's new puppet. I wonder, did she insert the hand, with or with out lube. | |||
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"The Scottish Green Party are probably alone (in comparison to Green parties around the globe), in believing in nationalism. Green parties usually believe in internationalism." Typical! Creeps!! | |||
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"More time wasted on a pie in the sky ideal with no firm policies or plans on how to run an independent Scotland. The SNP couldn't answer basic questions on state pensions, currencies, taxation, etc. They've had years to plan for this and haven't learnt from the last one. A girl makes more detailed plans for a wedding than the SNP have done for a divorce!" some girls wish for a wedding but never make the grade | |||
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"69 - 59 another fantastic day for Scotland "Bloody he'll, the under 21s did remarkably well, doubt the full side could score 69 | |||
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