FabSwingers.com forum: Trannys

By *ighland Master OP Man
over a year ago

perth

Do trannys fullfill a happy half way house for bi curiosity in both fems and guys. Just wondered if they are getting the best of both worlds guys who are thinking about a bi guy meet and fems who are thinking about bi fem meet.

How many fems on here would admit to meeting a tv?

Just curious lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To me at the end of the day when it gets down to the nitty gritty of playing it's a guy ... So no for me !

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Trannys is not a great word..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with View, not a good word to use.

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By *ire and BrimstoneCouple
over a year ago

between Glasgow/Edinburgh

"Trannys is not a great word.."
what would be a more appropriate word to use?my apologies to the OP for diverting from his thread.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Transvestite

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By *ire and BrimstoneCouple
over a year ago

between Glasgow/Edinburgh

"Transvestite

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surely you are not insulted by abbreviations????

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By *ouple1234Couple
over a year ago

BELFAST UK

no it wouldnt do anything for us, its just a bloke at the end of the day, its like a woman dressing as a man its still a woman at the end of the day

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"Transvestite

surely you are not insulted by abbreviations????"

think any slang word to describe sexual orientation MAY cause offence to someone.

note use of the words think and may.

I personally don't like the word.

hope that clears that up for you.

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By *ire and BrimstoneCouple
over a year ago

between Glasgow/Edinburgh

"Transvestite

surely you are not insulted by abbreviations????

think any slang word to describe sexual orientation MAY cause offence to someone.

note use of the words think and may.

I personally don't like the word.

hope that clears that up for you."
i think you are getting mixed up by the meaning of slang words and abbreviated words but hey if you dont like the word tranny then fair enough

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The word Tranny doesn't really bother me. Bloke dresed as a woman tends to be cd cross dresser for sexual gratification but its a spectrum we are all just people and labels dont help. TS is clear-a fem in a male body who may or may not want an op-fem in mind and possibly in DNA-dont know? TV spectrum is wide. I'm androgyne meaning I can be female in mindset and I can be male - if you are confused so am I? I dont dress just or soley for sexual pleasure its who I am and I express it-dressed. I ike to go out socialise and be Anna. Inside at least I'm female but hey ho I've got male bits so I'm a guy whose fem inside dressed as that fem.

As for sex well lots of so called straight guys like TVs maybe because its easier than finding a fem or perhaps hey are uncomfortable with guys but enjoy the sex bit and most would not meet that same person naked in male mode but will if dresd as convincingly as possible as a female. Im bi so I like guys (really only when I'm dressed or thinking inside that way if not dressd). The rest of the time I'm a horny bloke! See all very confusing! I've met m and f when dressed sometimes together sexually. Socially I've met great m and fs who are fine chatting being friends and socialising without any sex. I've also met m and fs who are totally freaked by it all and let me know in no uncertain terms. Each to their own I say

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"Transvestite

surely you are not insulted by abbreviations????

think any slang word to describe sexual orientation MAY cause offence to someone.

note use of the words think and may.

I personally don't like the word.

hope that clears that up for you.i think you are getting mixed up by the meaning of slang words and abbreviated words but hey if you dont like the word tranny then fair enough"

thanks.. as in my orginal post said 'not a great word'.. no where did it say others shouldn't use it.

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By *ire and BrimstoneCouple
over a year ago

between Glasgow/Edinburgh

"Transvestite

surely you are not insulted by abbreviations????

think any slang word to describe sexual orientation MAY cause offence to someone.

note use of the words think and may.

I personally don't like the word.

hope that clears that up for you.i think you are getting mixed up by the meaning of slang words and abbreviated words but hey if you dont like the word tranny then fair enough

thanks.. as in my orginal post said 'not a great word'.. no where did it say others shouldn't use it."
and nobody has made any reference to you or anybody else stating that others shouldnt use the word tranny

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"Transvestite

surely you are not insulted by abbreviations????

think any slang word to describe sexual orientation MAY cause offence to someone.

note use of the words think and may.

I personally don't like the word.

hope that clears that up for you.i think you are getting mixed up by the meaning of slang words and abbreviated words but hey if you dont like the word tranny then fair enough

thanks.. as in my orginal post said 'not a great word'.. no where did it say others shouldn't use it.and nobody has made any reference to you or anybody else stating that others shouldnt use the word tranny"

good news..

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By *ire and BrimstoneCouple
over a year ago

between Glasgow/Edinburgh

"Transvestite

surely you are not insulted by abbreviations????

think any slang word to describe sexual orientation MAY cause offence to someone.

note use of the words think and may.

I personally don't like the word.

hope that clears that up for you.i think you are getting mixed up by the meaning of slang words and abbreviated words but hey if you dont like the word tranny then fair enough

good news..

"
in the end it wasnt Rocket Science,was it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Let's get back on track as the current discussion is going round in circles

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"The word Tranny doesn't really bother me. Bloke dresed as a woman tends to be cd cross dresser for sexual gratification but its a spectrum we are all just people and labels dont help. TS is clear-a fem in a male body who may or may not want an op-fem in mind and possibly in DNA-dont know? TV spectrum is wide. I'm androgyne meaning I can be female in mindset and I can be male - if you are confused so am I? I dont dress just or soley for sexual pleasure its who I am and I express it-dressed. I ike to go out socialise and be Anna. Inside at least I'm female but hey ho I've got male bits so I'm a guy whose fem inside dressed as that fem.

Thank you! Very informative! I've had a similar conversation of late with a new friend and I'm intrigued and nosey and interested all at once. I like when people give in depth explanations on stuff like this cause I'm totally clueless about it all and I think it's great to educate people like me who know nowt about it. It's fascinating to get different angles cause I'd quite like to meet a TV/TS/CD.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love meeting all kind of different people as long as they are interesting.

Straight men, straight women, bi women, lesbian women, tvs, cross dressers, some are sexy some are not.

Never really occurs to me to think about anything other than whether I find that person attractive or not, and definitely find that someone becomes more or less attractive as you talk to them

ps I deliberately left bi men out cos I havent met enough of them yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I find you very attractive from the few pictures I can see but no face one (see male side coming out lol) very interesting and lovely to chat to xx

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Sex is what's between your legs, gender is what's between your head.

There's a lot of different permutations and a lot of confusion about the terminology, which is a bit of a minefield.

I've been called a lot worse than a tranny lol so it doesn't offend me, but I know plenty others who do get upset.

For them, it's too closely associated with a sexual hobby.

The term seems to mean different things to different people.

Anyway, enough of that.

I've the body of a boy, the mind of a girl and a sex drive that combines the two.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes many trannys do fullfill that function for many people.

For the record I am a transvestite I am transgendered, but perfectly happy to be called tranny. I even answer to sissy as when I was younger way back before the web we were often referred to as sissies. However the word sissy was hijacked by old fat Americans wanking into their wives pants and most trannys avoid it. Most trannys are insecure!

Anyway I have met both men and women since my teens as Wendy. I have also met loads women when not dressed . Women like trannys as we emphasise ,we understand them better than the average guy. Trannys also adore women. Remember most trannys are not gay.

Men like trannys because we are easy , and dress and do things many women dont .

The majority of trannys who meet guys are sluts. That is not said to shock it's a fact. We like to please, guys take advantage , but we want them to.

We also dont ask for anything. We dont expect presents, or want a relationship, just shag us , zip and a go guys. We still say thanks.

Not everyone admits to shagging a tranny. I have met zillions of people here , alone or together with my long time lover Kirsty(another tranny) . The majority wont send a verification, that's cool others do. There is for instance one m/f couple here who I meet regularly but would deny they do so. 95% of guys who shag trannies would never admit, but then the average tranny shagger in Scotland is a middle aged married guy. Maybe in old days they went to a Pro? It's cheaper to shag a tranny for free.

So support your local trannys we provide a valuable service..... for free!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This thread has actually turned into a really interesting thread

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By *nverman67Man
over a year ago

Aberdeen

What an excellent response Wendy.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

What Wendy says is pretty true.

She spent years researching the subject of male interest in us lot lol

Wendy has refused to tell me which ones might be my prince charming, so I'm just having to work my way through the field.

Thing is, for a lot of guys (and a lot of TVs) there is a stigma they find hard to shake off (And I don't mean just the guys who are married.)

The guys who will meet me for a drink in the local bar, or go out for a normal night out, are few and far between. The ones who do are just gems. They're comfortable with their own sexuality. I find.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Very Insightful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

very educating I thought a tranny was a radio

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am me and no-one can take that away from me except me !!!! Those that do know me well enough know that i love to party , going to 'straight' pubs n clubs, coz i can and will !!!! I am a nice person all round whatever i wear and all you need to do is talk say hi when out n about i or other tv's don't bite lol !!! females , males , couples whatever i can only say no if not interested but in general i like making friends!!! What i do hate tho is the stoopid labels banded around coz each and every cd/tv/ts is different in their own way !!!!

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By *ighland Master OP Man
over a year ago

perth

Well Im happy to meet all kinds of poeple the more interesting the better and yes i have met wendy and it was interesting and stimulating in more ways than just the obvious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes when I was growing up a tranny was a radio....ie Radio TRANsmitter or TRANNY for short.

Truthfully the only Tranny I actually know is in fact a married man with kids who actually gets dolled up for an evening and goes out with his missus and her pals.....

To me its like swinging, your either into it or not. Its a lifestyle,, as stated above many trannies are straight guys who just love the lifestyle....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" yes i have met wendy and it was interesting and stimulating in more ways than just the obvious "

Amazed you found me interesting as both times you have been here my mouth was full.

Except of course when you bent me over my piano stool spanked my bum then.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was a similar thread to this a wee while back, posted by a Glasgow guy (who I have met but not for sex). Some of the respondents were of the opinion trannys are just pervert guys and they wanted nothing to do with them. Which of course is fine, some trannys are just guys who dress for sex or a fetish, some of us have other reasons . Anyway one guy in particular was really hostile. I challenged him , he calmed down and his argument became more reasoned.

Yesterday I reminded him how much he despises trannys as he pushed himself into me for the third time that afternoon

He is one of my most regular regulars.

Funny sometimes how things work out!

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By *ire and BrimstoneCouple
over a year ago

between Glasgow/Edinburgh

"Yes when I was growing up a tranny was a radio....ie Radio TRANsmitter or TRANNY for short.

Truthfully the only Tranny I actually know is in fact a married man with kids who actually gets dolled up for an evening and goes out with his missus and her pals.....

To me its like swinging, your either into it or not. Its a lifestyle,, as stated above many trannies are straight guys who just love the lifestyle....

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thought the were called transistor radio otherwise known as a tranny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with Sarah. Guys who are comfortable with their own sexuality and treat people as people are gems. I love a guy treating me a a person. I don't claim to be female but when dressed in my head I am female. Guys that get that trea me the way they would a female but understand I'm a transvestite. They are as comfortable with me as they would be with a female and when that happens and I fancy them it is very special. We can talk laugh kiss cuddle and the sex can be incredible-completely different from a fuck n go. Mind you I can as slutty as some especially in PVC thigh boots with a hunk with a big cock lol

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By *ighland Master OP Man
over a year ago

perth

Vive la difference if we were all the same how boring life would be dont you think .

We need more colour more colourfull ppl in here tahts what makes it fun logging to be surprised not just the same old stuff

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are all different, even the trannys or more especially the trannys. For instance Anna and Sarah look for romance with guys and will regularly meet 121 for cuddles and stuff. Whereas I am completely different. I like a room full of guys. I dont want group sex just gang banged. Doesn't always work out that way but even though guys come singly it is for sex , then away. No romance cuddles or any that nonsense. I reserve that for my long time lover Kirsty or real girls.

Works for me, as most guys prefer that. Tranny shaggers are mainly as I said before, married guys looking for something safe and fast. In the door, suck, shag, cum zip up and go. Works for them and works for me.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I've spent ages searching for the guy who is as comfortable with me on a train or in a cafe as he is in the bedroom.

Mostly, it's just the bedroom.

I have found some guys with whom I've had a proper relationship. They are so special.

Last guy was just fabulous. He loved doing romantic things with me and he loved seeing me with other guys.

It was amazing. We'd go out one evening for a normal night; the next I'd get as much sex as I could manage. It worked fabulously well - he knew when sex was done he was the only guy I wanted to be with.

I'm not this way because I want sex. I'd still be this way if someone said I could never have sex again. But take away the TGism and offer me just sex and I'd probably end it all. I love this life, the diversity, the variety. It is how I feel most comfortable about myself.

All I ask in return from a guy is respect for me as a person.

One thing I'm never sure about is whether I'm a gay tranny or a represssed heterosexual transexual. I stopped trying to figure that out, ticked the bisexual box and decided just to go with the flow.

If it feels natural and harms no other, why worry. Just go do it.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I didn't join Fab looking for Prince Charming - lololol - but if you're my kinda man . . . .

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By *irtyGirlWoman
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I've loved reading this thread!

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By *issNaughtyxxxWoman
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Really enjoyed reading and learning about this thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sara has expresed exactly how I feel - thats exactly what I want. I agree with Wendy we are all different though (like some girls too) I do like a room full of hard cocks ocassionally lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont think I am any more a slut than Anna or Sarah, but know why I am so different. I am a funny sort of bi, in so much I enjoy being shagged senseless by many men, but dont really like men that much

My trouble is I totally adore girls and just want men for the shagging. Phychologists would have a field day with me

Does not bother me in slightest.

After saying all that have had an intense love affair with Kirsty for 9 years and last we checked under all that makeup and sexy lingerie she is in fact a genetic male..... and although a late starter (30 before I took her virginity) is easily as big a slut as me.

One thing all we trannies have in common, we share a lot and love talking about ourselves. Most also have an obsession with cameras and mirrors, though like to think I grew out of both many years back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cant say Im bothered about cameras and mirrors. I dont tend to fancy men when Im in male mode but Im def androgyne and can shift into a female mode and fancy guys. These days i need to feel there is chemistry and want them before I let them shag me. Might have been diffeent at first but now I want a guy I like who knows how to treat me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OMG you are so gay

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nah I'm fem so need to get last word in!

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By *Y MAN n MECouple
over a year ago

FIFE

"Really enjoyed reading and learning about this thread. "

Yes us too. We have several Tv friends and find them to be genuinely lovely people, from a female point a _iew I find them to be great fun, love to share my man with them, Do get quite jealous how gorgeous they look in their lingerie

To any couple who are thinking of meeting one just go for it .... and yes we are more than happy to verify too after all we met them on Fab and playing is great. Long may our Tranny friendships last xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well this tranny loves meeting couples.

I thought I would mention that in case people just think I am a bitch for real men.

Did I say I love meeting couples?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes many trannys do fullfill that function for many people. For the record I am a transvestite I am transgendered, but perfectly happy to be called tranny. I even answer to sissy as when I was younger way back before the web we were often referred to as sissies. However the word sissy was hijacked by old fat Americans wanking into their wives pants and most trannys avoid it. Most trannys are insecure! Anyway I have met both men and women since my teens as Wendy. I have also met loads women when not dressed . Women like trannys as we emphasise ,we understand them better than the average guy. Trannys also adore women. Remember most trannys are not gay. Men like trannys because we are easy , and dress and do things many women dont . The majority of trannys who meet guys are sluts. That is not said to shock it's a fact. We like to please, guys take advantage , but we want them to.

We also dont ask for anything. We dont expect presents, or want a relationship, just shag us , zip and a go guys. We still say thanks. Not everyone admits to shagging a tranny. I have met zillions of people here , alone or together with my long time lover Kirsty(another tranny) . The majority wont send a verification, that's cool others do. There is for instance one m/f couple here who I meet regularly but would deny they do so. 95% of guys who shag trannies would never admit, but then the average tranny shagger in Scotland is a middle aged married guy. Maybe in old days they went to a Pro? It's cheaper to shag a tranny for free. So support your local trannys we provide a valuable service..... for free!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Back to the 'rumpus'! about the word "tranny". This is scotland most, if not all, names are slanged and end with the letter 'Y'. Dont mean nothing,its scotland. We dont do 'PC' up here

lol.

Good luck to you guy's, each to his own.

Just not our thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

P.S.

We just wish, some women up here looked as good as most of the "tranny's" do, when they are dolled up in thier finest.lol!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think ull find also alot of the "trannys" that are here started out as guys meeting up with "tranny" and after seeing how much fun and action the get they decided to try it themselves

I started dressing bout 7 yes ago just for myself when I was wanking but never met anyone and stopped dressing after a year or so

Well over the last 4 or 5 years the more experienced I've got with meeting " trannys " the more confident I got and the more relaxed with it I got so a few months ago I decided to try dressing again

Only had one meet so far which was awesome and looking for more with women guys couples and other trannys but there's soooooo many timewasters on here it's hard to find, and I also find it quite hard to approach women and couples as I'm unsure how they _iew trannys and exactly what they want from it

I still also meet as a guy tho so not to limit my fun

I hope this helps a bit and would love to hear from more women and couple heehee

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've worn lingerie for a meet with a guy before and I've gotta admit, it was a big turn on for both of us. It's made me think about going the whole hog and dressing fully

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is a difference defined in obscure EU regulations governing the categorisation of minorities between transvestites and cross dressers. A cross dressing male is someone who dresses for a fetish, as a turn on for himself and/or to have sex with others. A transvestite dresses as a female as he/she is complelled to. It is entirely natural for a transvestite like me to dress both in male or female clothes. Part of our brains are hot wired feminine. We are not to be confused with transexuals who believe they were born in wrong body and want to change sex.

Transvestites are born, not made and dont develop later in life (unless of course the transvestism has been seriously supressed by enviroment) The guys who start dressing later in life are in the main cross dressers. I have met many over the years. First they visited me as guys. Then they wore lingerie, some eventually dressed fully (and looked very convincing) . Some years later they are back shagging me as guys.. It is a phase and a fetish for many, we transvestites however are there for life.

We all get called trannys though , (even to their annoyance the ts girls) I prefer the old name...sissies. Though dont dare try calling a ts one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

wow !!! this has got to be one of the most informative threads i read in a while !!! ill put my hand up and say i dont know too much about it and im still a bit confused about the female and male modes and the mental side of it . i understand cross dressing a bit better . T his can only be a good thing having this discussion as education is the key i feel . i never met a "tranny" or a crossdresser well not knowingly its possible i guess , not sure if its the right thing to say or not i not looking to offend anyone but i think its quite a brave thing to admit (is that the right word ?) or to submit to your yourself and accept what and who you are in a society where we are all so keen to label each other as straight or bi or gay or this or that instead of just people . thanks for the thread though learned a lot .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have met three trannys, all three preffered to be called trannys so I feel comfterable using the word.

Only one of them was more into woman than men, all three had their different preferences just like anyone else, all three were extremely sexy as they were very comfterable with their sexuality.

I never felt I was fucking a woman so any desire I had to be bi was not an issue.

Just good times

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Glad you are finding this useful. You have pointed out that you are a bit confused which is understandable as there are so many different types within the transgendred spectrum.

The more people learn about us here the better , as I suspect more and more trannys join each year. This site despite it's faults works. I personally meet far more guys from here than any of the dedicated tranny pick up sites where I have been a member for years. And no where else do we trannies make so many worthwhile contacts with couples.

Now it might not please everyone that trannys are drawn here, but if we are not of interest then just ignore us. In the main I find the vast majority of people here very accepting.

Getting back to my comment about the different types within the transgendered spectrum. I would advise anyone meeting a tranny for the first time to try to understand what type of person you are meeting. Some are simply men who dress in undies for a thrill , others see themselves as women trapped in mens bodies. Many are somewhere in between , but at different levels. Then you need find out if they are "tops" "bottoms" or versatile. Most ts/tvs as opposed to fetish cds, will be completely 100% passive bottoms with men. I dont know what percentage are passive but do know it is the majority. Guys need get that right. I am myself am a submissive sissy bottom , I dont want guys to go for my sticky out bit , I dont want a guy to turn out to be a cock sucker and I would rather die than shag the guy. Sexually, guys need to think of most of us as "funny looking women". Dont be misled by the manufactured "Shemale" porn on the web. That is not real life. If you want cock guys then try the fetish cds , or search round the trannies look for those who like that other stuff.

Dont let the above put anyone off chasing trannys. We are here because we want to meet people. Just keep in mind we might not all be into your particular fantasy.

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston

excellent post Wendy. xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank you , I am obviously no authority on the subject but just speak from my life experience. I have been dressing since 8 fully since 11 and met my first men at ## (not saying) Have dated every gender as a girl, done porn (still do) and escorted through my mid 20s to early 40s . So been around the tranny scene for ever and a day.

Now I just meet men for fun, but in truth adore women so much more.

There is a lot of stuff about us in dedicated tranny sites on the web, much of which those of us who live in the real world recognise as pretentious shite. I just say things as I see things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wendy,

U crack me up every time lol!!!

I have alot of TV/TS/CD friends...I find them non-threatening, extremely easygoing and the ones that are close to me are fantastic. Its something that ur either into or ur not, simple!!

Wendy, u know ur a bottom with that sissy dress on lol!!!

A xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mrs Happy how lovely to hear from you. You are definetely someone who should have an opinion on trannys. As you say you are friends with loads.

Course I am a bottom I am a submissive sissy, but of course only for men. My other side can switch faster than a dogs tail.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Since meeting with TV's etc I have learnt so much that I didn't know before. All the stuff about top/bottom/switching etc is something I had no insight into before so its been a learning curve for me also.

Its not something for everyone but there's a place in this world for everyone x

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By *ighland Master OP Man
over a year ago

perth

at the end of the day we are all people and if we realised that we are all brothers and sisters then the world would be a much nicer place , live and let live,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont have any brothers, and if my sister here I am in shit. She has never fogiven me for sucking off one of her bfs when I was a teenage girl(well sissy)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haven't commented in a while. I don't personally like the term sissie as to me it reminds me of a term at school used abusively towards guys who were weak, cried etc. Wendy makes some fabulous points. I didn't know you could do other things apart from shag! Joking!

I guess I'm peculiar in the sense that I didn't start dressing until I was 40 and had absolutely no bi inklings before that. Perhaps I had a hormonal change? I had a spell of being a serial shagger of woman when I was on my own and discovered the mad internet. I never knew there was so much out there! For some reason I suddenly thought I'd like to do it with a guy. My first was a blow job and I swallowed half a bottle of listerine after and swore never again! A week later I wanted shagged! I met a really nice guy and he taught me it all within a week. But something didnt feel right and he commented that i was actually 'very feminine.' I hadn't thought of it and was just being me. The 3rd guy I met (all within one month)in mid shag asked me to dress. It was frweak out and run time or do it. I guess having a big one in you at the time of such a request and wanting more makes a difference! He had all the gear and i loked and just went 'that's nice.' I cant explain it. I was me suddenly when dressed but wanted the hair make up etc right from the start.

Maybe I had a spell as a cd-dressing for sex but it didn't last long. I felt a sense of release like I had found the real me. I started trying to look as good as I could (still a work in progress) and dressing when I could at home without any sex or wanking involved. I did it because it felt right. I wanted to go out and be that female I felt inside and that desire has just grown and grown until I went to the gender doctor who helped me understand that I'm androgyne. He said I was late in life to realise it but he'd met plenty who had done the same. I was advised that stopping it could harm my mental well being. However, whilst I can be both m or f I have balance. I mostly want to be fem though so that creates stress now and again. However, I've no strong desire to become female through an op but admit those thoughts cross my mind. However, as above, if I stopped being male at times that would also be bad for my mental well being. Like Wendy I'm completely 'bottom' so I'd hate to shag a guy, couldnt care less about my cock and so on.

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over a year ago

Anna , you dont need to like the term sissy to be one,

All tvs/cds are sissies. However not all sissies are tv/cds. And that is why so many recoil from the word, as it has been hijacked by fat Americans wearing their wives panties sitting wanking at their pcs over pics of tarts like me getting shagged.

I know as I run a couple of sissy porn groups on yahoo and the big group is packed with thousands of fat yanks in panties, to whom this daft sissy is a sex symbol. Wendy pisses herself laughing!

Sissy went out of favour, but trust me we are sissies. Now it upsets many to say it but in my opinion all of us in the tg m/f spectrum with the exception of the ts girls are just a bunch of bloody sissies

Now some will say it is only a word. Well words are how we define ourself. Unlike those who started drssing at 40 (not knocking it just saying) I have been a sissy since a kid and I am proud to be one.

Now that's confused everyone who was getting used to calling us trannys.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You've gotta love Wendy. Sex symbol to the Yanks? You go girl! I don't care what I am , I'm having fun and long (or big n thick?) may it continue!

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over a year ago

Sex symbol to all the sissy shaggers here I have to say. for some reason guys seem to want to meet me. Probaly cos I am easy!Long may it continue. So many men, and never enough time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Time for my penarth worth. IMHO, the whole "trans" spectrum is as long as it is wide as it is deep. and is often mis-understood by anyone and everyone. with apologies for stating the obvious:

Sexuality

is the human preference/attraction for men or women or both or neither.

Think straight, gay, lesbian, bi, etc

Gender

is the human characteristic of being a male or female.

Think masculine or feminine.

Sex

the human sex organs at birth

Think boy bits or girl bits.

Now, I am sure that we will all accept the stereotrypical _iews that if you hsve boys bits, you are male and therefore your gender is masculine. Similarly, born with girl bits, you are female and feminine.

But its not that simple. Like most things in life, I would say that in the areas of sexuality, gender & sex, think of a scale from 1 to 10. This is not scientific but is perhaps a good starting point:

Sexuality

0: attracted only to same sex

5: attracted equally to both sexes

10:attracted only to opposite sex

Gender (masculine or feminine)

0: having characteristics of birth sex

5: having characteristics of both sexes

10: having characteristics of opposite sex

Sex

M: born Male

F: born Female

Thinking of society, I think we have had years of social and political conditioning in the area of sexuality that only straights were allowed. If you were not celebate or married, you were "queer" at best; an "aboinination" at worst. Even now there is still prejudice in certain quarters towards bi-sexuals, gays and lesbians although equality is much better than it used to be.

Turning now to sex, the vast majority of humans (whether by choice or conditioning) accept they were born with their boy or girl bits but for some people, they have a burning desire/need to have surgery to remove their birth bits and replace with opposite sex bits. Usually its boy bits being replaced with girl bits but it does go the other way too.

So why do some people do that. In simplistic terms its because ofwhat the psychologists call "gender dysphoria" - so called girl living in a boys body or vice versa. The mental anguish etc is so much that only reassignment surgery will secure that inner peace.

And so enters the "trans" person. I'm not one for labels but having been on a few sites over the years, the following seems to be the general rule of thumb:

CD - Crossdresser.

Men who wear female clothes in private.

Men are happy being men but just want to wear womens clothes - kind of dressing up more than anything

Includes so called "hairy panty wearers".

Have no desire to be seen in public.

TV - Transvestite

Men who not only wear female clothes - but also strive to pass as female in public by wearing make-up,wigs etc.

TS - Transexual

Men who live full time as females.

May have gender reassignment surgery

As I say, I'm not one for labels but if my comments above help in understanding, I will be happy.

I do know and accept and respect that many within the FAB community have taken the _iew that "trans" is not for them. I accept that just like I accept that some have decided that same-sex encounters is not for them.

But regardless of where we all might be on the spectrum,hopefully we can all now understand and be accepting of one another. Personally speaking,I'd rather earn the respect of 10 people who could only ever be chat-buddies but be intimate with someone with no respect.

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over a year ago

It's not just the blokes that get hostile about it, though. Even though I'm not a tranny I have, in the past been a sweet transvestite. ie I toured in the Rocky Horror Show playing Frank, and I still have the heels. In response to a comment from a woman about wanting a tall man (I can't remember the exact question) I flippantly pointed out being 6'8" in my heels. I was then given a tirade about not being a 'real man' and of no use to her.

I'm perfectly comfortable in my skin and know the effect my Costumed self has on women. I always got more & wider sex as Frank than I ever did as me and the thing about the character (and I know it was written this way) is that it doesn't work played camp or limp-wristed. If you don't play the masculinity & contrast it with the clothing it just doesn't work.

I don't know if it's the same for 'real life' trannies or if you play a more feminine persona but one thing I'm sure is that none of you are any less 'real men' whatever that actually means.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I don't know if it's the same for 'real life' trannies or if you play a more feminine persona but one thing I'm sure is that none of you are any less 'real men' whatever that actually means."

I don't know what it's like to be a "real man", just as I don't know what it's like to be a "real woman". I don't know what either means.

I know only what it's like to be me. That's real.

There was a time when I deluded myself I was two different people. I'm not. I am the same person. The clothes may change but the person does not.

I'm not full-time.

I'd say I function when wearing male clothes; I flourish when wearing female clothes.

Going out in a feminine appearance is the most comfortable experience I know. It is so natural. It is me.

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By *lackbird186Man
over a year ago

west glasgow

2 cents from a straight male

sex and gender could be a big issue.

with sex you have a choice of 2 but with gender there are loads

if you commit a crime and are going to jail do they put you in a male or female prison .

male prison you would be picking up alot of soap if you get my meaning and a female one you would be doing the opposite .

on passports would you need to have 2 photos one male and one female same for driving licences how far would you take it .

as for the word tranny to me its a pocket radio i prefer the thai word" katoey" its a nicer sounding word

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I went to Paris on Eurostar a a few years ago. My passport looked nothing like me.

Leaving Waterloo, the official said nothing. Leaving Paris, the French official advised me to get it changed. the British official asked me if I could get it changed.

But none of them stopped me. They're looking for couriers and terrorists, not gender benders, I guess.

Of course, I assured them it was on my list of things to do. It isn't, not unless I decide to go full-time.

I flew from Manchester to Inverness at New Year. At check-in, I produced by ID - a driving licence with a pic of a boy. The check-in official never batted an eyelid.

They probably see all sorts all the time.

At the security gate, the official asked me to remove my boots, which I did.

It was only afterwards I realised I'd breached their rules. I was wearing a gel bra and chicken fillets, which are prohibited items.

If the thought crossed their minds, so too might the notion that it was more hassle than it was worth lol.

So I have one passport, one driving licence, both with a pic of a boy. I use them when I travel as a girl.

It's not ideal, but it works for me. So far anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sara you express what its like so well. I'm same person not two people. I realised a while ago. Like you I function as male but flourish as female and I'm more alive,comfortable as female. I go out too and the more I do I realise very few folk bother. There are always some though who feel the need to call me a freak or whatever. Someone asked if it was like fancy dress. Its definately not. I don't feel as if I've done anything other than put my clothes on and be me, they just happen to be female clothes. Blokes dont get dressed and go outside and feel like they are in fancy dress do they? So its just normal being me except for the hair I suppose. I'm not as brave as Sara (i'll add yet!) but then again Sara looks so damn good and is just a lovely person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why do people react sometimes aggressively to what they perceive as 'different'? It is actually a perfectly 'normal' response. I learned some of this stuff a few yrs ago. The brain is wired up to form patterns. Patterns can be shapes or any grouping of information. Patterns create habitual behaviour where we do things in the same way. So we don't need to remember how to get dressed for example. There are thousands of ways but we probably use just 3-4. We know what a table looks like, a bus, a car and I guess a male and a female. Why do you think new products struggle at first? Because that is not the pattern we have in our mind so we look at it and overlay it onto our pattern and it doesnt fit. Think Dyson vacuum. We judge and we reject in an instant then work out why. This is apparently so strong in us that our reaction is pyschological AND physiological. If you saw the elephant man walking down the street you'd react that way. Disabled or handicapped folk get it all the time.

Emotionally mature people still have that reaction but can disguise it. Of courrse if someone is 'narrow minded' it means they have a limited set of patterns to compare anything to. They've formed habits and probably repeated them often enough till they've become beliefs.

So what's the answer? For Tvs its trying to look as convincing as possible (ie conforming to the pattern of what a female looks like so not standing out) or just not caring. For others Id say open your minds by exposing yourself to more situations and people, listening to them, seeking to understand. The world is so varied its fabulous. And of course if you hung around with TVS often it creates a new pattern and then its 'normal'

Wonder if any of that made sense?

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over a year ago

The type of society we live in today helps the acceptance. I have gone out in public as a girl since 14 . The early years were dead easy for obvious reasons , but when I was older and bigger there were the odd problems . However as the years go on in Scotland they just melted away. We live is a forward thinking tolerant society. Yeah honestly we do , we prove it everytime we go out the door.

Now pop across the water to Ireland . Belfast great, big tranny scene, well accepted by others. Go south to Dublin , again big tranny scene......but only behind closed doors, only the brave or stupid walk out and expect hassle.

Maybe we are stupid ?

Attitudes of many in Dublin 25 years behind Edinburgh/Glasgow. Kirsty who is 5 foot 5 size 8/10 and so convincing was even targeted , though the main protaginist soon shut up when this tranny bounced him off the side of a Dublin bus.

Anyway, we are so lucky to live here.

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