FabSwingers.com mobile

Join us FREE, we're FREE to use

Web's largest swingers site since 2006.

Already registered?
Login here

Back to forum list
Back to Scotland

Train strike

Jump to newest
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Who else is being fucked about with this shite??

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Poor Thomas and james. Thst fat controller is a lazy bugger

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can see my work from my house.

No dramas.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 10/07/16 14:56:30]

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *akleonMan
over a year ago

Helensburgh

its doing my tits in. I usually get the train to work and I've been having to drive in instead or hot-desk from a closer office to home. Its shocking.

I'll tell you a belter of a story though. I was getting the train back home from Edinburgh and the trains were cancelled (sudden last minute strike) so they arranged a taxi to take me back home. Scotrail paid for it, the total came to ...... £74.

WTF Lol

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *mojeeCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline


"Who else is being fucked about with this shite?? "

It's not a lot of shite tho is it. The guards are striking to save their jobs. I don't suppose you'd appreciate it if your company wanted to demote you and pay you just over 50%of current salary with worse terms and conditions.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Who else is being fucked about with this shite??

It's not a lot of shite tho is it. The guards are striking to save their jobs. I don't suppose you'd appreciate it if your company wanted to demote you and pay you just over 50%of current salary with worse terms and conditions. "

That's not what they're doing tho

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *mojeeCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline

Aren't they????

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Erm no afraid not

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *mojeeCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline

explain it then.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They're striking because new trains can be operated by just the driver...it used to be the driver was only there to drive the train and the guard was in charge of it...now the driver takes all the responsibility it also takes a man away from the train if there is an emergency situation the guard was always responsible for the safety side of things....

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *mojeeCouple
over a year ago

Dunfermline

So what I said was correct then.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not all about saving jobs it's also safety related due to there being only one staff member on the train ...I've seen 2 fatal accidents when I was in the railway and both times the drivers were killed .at the time the guards did all they could to safe guard the passengers safety ...heaven forbid it ever happens again......so they are striking for safety reasons not just safe guarding jobs...hope this throws some light on it for you

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

Could be worse driverless trains are being introduced these things I place no faith in

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

It is more to do with safety yes, the only thing is they did away with guards on the electric trains years ago and never really put a fight up then.. I'm all for fighting what you're entitled to but this is a dispute I'm afraid they're not going to win.. Could I also add it's absolutely nothing to fm with pay amd conditions as my learned friend suggested in an earlier post.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is more to do with safety yes, the only thing is they did away with guards on the electric trains years ago and never really put a fight up then.. I'm all for fighting what you're entitled to but this is a dispute I'm afraid they're not going to win.. Could I also add it's absolutely nothing to fm with pay amd conditions as my learned friend suggested in an earlier post. "

So how is that "shite"?

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago

near Glasgow

Yes, I was going to point this out, some trains are already running guardless, and there doesn't seem to be any claims about safety on them.

So why are they striking???

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It is more to do with safety yes, the only thing is they did away with guards on the electric trains years ago and never really put a fight up then.. I'm all for fighting what you're entitled to but this is a dispute I'm afraid they're not going to win.. Could I also add it's absolutely nothing to fm with pay amd conditions as my learned friend suggested in an earlier post.

So how is that "shite"?"

I'm meaning for the passengers it's shite, they are being punished for something that will come to nothing I'm afraid

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is more to do with safety yes, the only thing is they did away with guards on the electric trains years ago and never really put a fight up then.. I'm all for fighting what you're entitled to but this is a dispute I'm afraid they're not going to win.. Could I also add it's absolutely nothing to fm with pay amd conditions as my learned friend suggested in an earlier post.

So how is that "shite"?

I'm meaning for the passengers it's shite, they are being punished for something that will come to nothing I'm afraid "

So fuck the working man, it's causing you a bit of hassle. Seems rather selfish to me

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 10/07/16 21:35:19]

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 10/07/16 21:35:49]

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

You're not understanding what I mean

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 10/07/16 21:55:14]

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So what I said was correct then. "

No.

The issue is that the doors will be operated by the driver instead of the guard, Scotrail have already offered guarantees that nobody will lose their jobs, be demoted or have their income reduced.

The unions have made claims that this will cause accidents, however they havent offered any information as to how they reached that conclusion.

Aprox 60% of train journeys in Scotland take place on trains with driver operated doors, so if it really is a safety issue my question is, where are all the accidents on those trains ?

I actually put that to an RMT shop steward, the answer was, and I am quoting directly

"Thats besides the point"

I dont understand what the unions hope to achieve through these strikes.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By *igbuddie79Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"It's not all about saving jobs it's also safety related due to there being only one staff member on the train ...I've seen 2 fatal accidents when I was in the railway and both times the drivers were killed .at the time the guards did all they could to safe guard the passengers safety ...heaven forbid it ever happens again......so they are striking for safety reasons not just safe guarding jobs...hope this throws some light on it for you"

They'll still be two staff members on board, the guard will probably be the same person, just they'll be called a ticket examiner, instead of a guard

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They're striking because new trains can be operated by just the driver...it used to be the driver was only there to drive the train and the guard was in charge of it...now the driver takes all the responsibility it also takes a man away from the train if there is an emergency situation the guard was always responsible for the safety side of things...."

According to online articles, guards have not been responsible for safety on a train since 1996.

Apparently they only get involved in safety if the driver is dead.

When did this last happen? Not only a driver dying but the guard getting help?

Don't think the rmt are being 100% truthful. Also if trains are not safe with only a driver, Why are the train drivers union letting their members drive unsafe trains?

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
 
 

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All the electric trains run without guards already. There are ticket examiners but they aren't guards.

Reply privatelyReply in forumReply +quote
Post new Message to Thread
back to top