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"What's the cost??" £35 for males, £60 first visit. | |||
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"I understand why single guys would feel like there being cheated, and om not saying your in the wrong but single fems are the life blood of any Club with couples in second place. The low price I think is to encourage as many single fems as possible then the sigla guys make up for it in thete entry costs. Thing is there are that many single guys willing to pay anything just to get a girl to fuck so demand is always there. I'm not single guy bashing btw. I happen to like single men in a club xxxxx" I understand that, but it still seems excessive, plus, is it any guarantee of sex? I would doubt it. | |||
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"I understand why single guys would feel like there being cheated, and om not saying your in the wrong but single fems are the life blood of any Club with couples in second place. The low price I think is to encourage as many single fems as possible then the sigla guys make up for it in thete entry costs. Thing is there are that many single guys willing to pay anything just to get a girl to fuck so demand is always there. I'm not single guy bashing btw. I happen to like single men in a club xxxxx I understand that, but it still seems excessive, plus, is it any guarantee of sex? I would doubt it." tbh i Wouldn't spend the £35 onone of these things, mainly coz i dont pay for sex but also what if you go, you pay that, then none of the women are attractive? I dont expect a super model but if i have to pay then i want super models ![]() | |||
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"I understand why single guys would feel like there being cheated, and om not saying your in the wrong but single fems are the life blood of any Club with couples in second place. The low price I think is to encourage as many single fems as possible then the sigla guys make up for it in thete entry costs. Thing is there are that many single guys willing to pay anything just to get a girl to fuck so demand is always there. I'm not single guy bashing btw. I happen to like single men in a club xxxxx I understand that, but it still seems excessive, plus, is it any guarantee of sex? I would doubt it.tbh i Wouldn't spend the £35 onone of these things, mainly coz i dont pay for sex but also what if you go, you pay that, then none of the women are attractive? I dont expect a super model but if i have to pay then i want super models ![]() Clubs aren't all about sex though you meet some pretty amazing people there. I'm going to CJ's on sat but as I'm recovering from being not well I will not be playing. Just meeting friends old and new xxxxx | |||
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"No not a garentee. But if it was expensive for single fems then few would go and the club would probably need to shut. Or start gay nights. But as I said demand is there,even if it was £100 entry for a single guy plenty would still show up. Thankfully there are those like yourself that realise entry doesn't garentee sex but there are a lot of single guys that think it's there god given right xxxxx" Then they have more money than sense lol | |||
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"No not a garentee. But if it was expensive for single fems then few would go and the club would probably need to shut. Or start gay nights. But as I said demand is there,even if it was £100 entry for a single guy plenty would still show up. Thankfully there are those like yourself that realise entry doesn't garentee sex but there are a lot of single guys that think it's there god given right xxxxx" i think women would pay more, you are all guaranteed sex, several times with as many guys, girls or couples as you like. Basically my train of thought is the people who will be enjoying themselves the most should pay the most, coz no matter what it would be worth it for them. | |||
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"£5, £10, £15 would be more realistic and fair. Or even £10, £15, £20. I used to go to a nightclub years ago where women got in for free and men paid £5, I do understand the logic behind it, however the council stopped it on the grounds of sexual discrimination." its a terrible sexist country we live in ![]() | |||
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"As you giys are aware that the price is abit steep for after 8 i also agree but then thag does not stop me attending and yes there are some nights you go and not get sex because for me swinging is about the social aspect aswell ive got some pretty good friends there and still £35 for a night in there is still alot cheaper than i would spend on and actual night out up the town have you guys ever thought about it that way? Also miss bubblegum is correct the proce is so low for women is for them to attend because sometimes you can go and there are two women there and the rest are guys some guys also leave straight away because they are unnatractive or expect to get something which is not the case. Guys like that would be more suited in a brothel than a swingers club how can you expect to just get sex with out actually startig a conversation with the girl there are also a few couples. So its really a hit or a miss but think about it the way i said about a cheap noght out its also bring your own bottle." Totally agree re night out aspect as I can spend over £100 on a night out in Edinburgh and not spend half that at the club ![]() | |||
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"As you giys are aware that the price is abit steep for after 8 i also agree but then thag does not stop me attending and yes there are some nights you go and not get sex because for me swinging is about the social aspect aswell ive got some pretty good friends there and still £35 for a night in there is still alot cheaper than i would spend on and actual night out up the town have you guys ever thought about it that way? Also miss bubblegum is correct the proce is so low for women is for them to attend because sometimes you can go and there are two women there and the rest are guys some guys also leave straight away because they are unnatractive or expect to get something which is not the case. Guys like that would be more suited in a brothel than a swingers club how can you expect to just get sex with out actually startig a conversation with the girl there are also a few couples. So its really a hit or a miss but think about it the way i said about a cheap noght out its also bring your own bottle." I don't drink & I'm not one of those guys who buy women or mates a drink to impress so anytime I go out I can pretty much guarantee £35 is about 78% more than what I spend on a night out. | |||
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"I didn't say it was, I was referring to the comments above that implied because they paid an entry fee, they should be guaranteed a fuck. In answer to your OP, I believe that there should be a price for couples and a price for singles, regardless of gender. I can understand why they do it though" I know you didn't say it was, but the conversation was going off in that direction. I say I understand why they do it, just I think it's disproportionate. | |||
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"No not a garentee. But if it was expensive for single fems then few would go and the club would probably need to shut. Or start gay nights. But as I said demand is there,even if it was £100 entry for a single guy plenty would still show up. Thankfully there are those like yourself that realise entry doesn't garentee sex but there are a lot of single guys that think it's there god given right xxxxxi think women would pay more, you are all guaranteed sex, several times with as many guys, girls or couples as you like. Basically my train of thought is the people who will be enjoying themselves the most should pay the most, coz no matter what it would be worth it for them." & what makes you think all women would be guaranteed sex? To me that infers none of us have standards & would sleep with anyone! R | |||
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"No not a garentee. But if it was expensive for single fems then few would go and the club would probably need to shut. Or start gay nights. But as I said demand is there,even if it was £100 entry for a single guy plenty would still show up. Thankfully there are those like yourself that realise entry doesn't garentee sex but there are a lot of single guys that think it's there god given right xxxxxi think women would pay more, you are all guaranteed sex, several times with as many guys, girls or couples as you like. Basically my train of thought is the people who will be enjoying themselves the most should pay the most, coz no matter what it would be worth it for them. & what makes you think all women would be guaranteed sex? To me that infers none of us have standards & would sleep with anyone! R" ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Doesnt make sense to me, if single fems are highest in demand & going to get the most action the they should pay more, a single guy could go & get nothing after paying all that" " i Wouldn't spend the £35 onone of these things, mainly coz i dont pay for sex but also what if you go, you pay that, then none of the women are attractive? I dont expect a super model but if i have to pay then i want super models " Your comments are disgusting to be honest and i think some of the other posters are right you would be better off in a brothel ... The club are not asking you to pay for sex or the anount of action you might get they are asking you to pay for entry to a club Yes its a but steep for men , and yes it seems un fair but the clubs are running a business at the end of the day and its simple economics of supply and demand ... There are limited male spaces with a higher number of males interested ... The price goes up! There are unlimited female and couple spaces (because otherwise the men would not go) with a lower amount of interest ... To fill the spaces the price goes down! Its pretty much the same as the way people complain about flights in Scotland being more expensive than down south ... Feels unfair but actually its just the logic of the way pricing works And for the record i always pay my own way, buy my own drinks, split the taxi fare and if i go in as a couple... Pay the fem fee and let the guy take the discount as mine is relatively cheap already | |||
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"Doesnt make sense to me, if single fems are highest in demand & going to get the most action the they should pay more, a single guy could go & get nothing after paying all that i Wouldn't spend the £35 onone of these things, mainly coz i dont pay for sex but also what if you go, you pay that, then none of the women are attractive? I dont expect a super model but if i have to pay then i want super models Your comments are disgusting to be honest and i think some of the other posters are right you would be better off in a brothel ... The club are not asking you to pay for sex or the anount of action you might get they are asking you to pay for entry to a club Yes its a but steep for men , and yes it seems un fair but the clubs are running a business at the end of the day and its simple economics of supply and demand ... There are limited male spaces with a higher number of males interested ... The price goes up! There are unlimited female and couple spaces (because otherwise the men would not go) with a lower amount of interest ... To fill the spaces the price goes down! Its pretty much the same as the way people complain about flights in Scotland being more expensive than down south ... Feels unfair but actually its just the logic of the way pricing works And for the record i always pay my own way, buy my own drinks, split the taxi fare and if i go in as a couple... Pay the fem fee and let the guy take the discount as mine is relatively cheap already " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Please do not let this turn into a bitchfest nor an attack on the club, I'm only questioning the lack of parity and fairness in the fees." And my post was an explanation of how pricing works ... | |||
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"Please do not let this turn into a bitchfest nor an attack on the club, I'm only questioning the lack of parity and fairness in the fees. And my post was an explanation of how pricing works ... " exactly it's simple economics. Supply and demand ![]() | |||
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"No not a garentee. But if it was expensive for single fems then few would go and the club would probably need to shut. Or start gay nights. But as I said demand is there,even if it was £100 entry for a single guy plenty would still show up. Thankfully there are those like yourself that realise entry doesn't garentee sex but there are a lot of single guys that think it's there god given right xxxxxi think women would pay more, you are all guaranteed sex, several times with as many guys, girls or couples as you like. Basically my train of thought is the people who will be enjoying themselves the most should pay the most, coz no matter what it would be worth it for them. & what makes you think all women would be guaranteed sex? To me that infers none of us have standards & would sleep with anyone! R" OK well your saying "some of us" but you've clearly took it personally, that's not what I was saying at all, not entirely anyway. I can't get into it, to explain it all I would need a big long shpeal or I'd have to be extremely blunt about it. | |||
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"Please do not let this turn into a bitchfest nor an attack on the club, I'm only questioning the lack of parity and fairness in the fees. And my post was an explanation of how pricing works ... " I know how pricing works, I say so in my OP, but it's exploitation. | |||
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"Doesnt make sense to me, if single fems are highest in demand & going to get the most action the they should pay more, a single guy could go & get nothing after paying all that i Wouldn't spend the £35 onone of these things, mainly coz i dont pay for sex but also what if you go, you pay that, then none of the women are attractive? I dont expect a super model but if i have to pay then i want super models Your comments are disgusting to be honest and i think some of the other posters are right you would be better off in a brothel ... The club are not asking you to pay for sex or the anount of action you might get they are asking you to pay for entry to a club Yes its a but steep for men , and yes it seems un fair but the clubs are running a business at the end of the day and its simple economics of supply and demand ... There are limited male spaces with a higher number of males interested ... The price goes up! There are unlimited female and couple spaces (because otherwise the men would not go) with a lower amount of interest ... To fill the spaces the price goes down! Its pretty much the same as the way people complain about flights in Scotland being more expensive than down south ... Feels unfair but actually its just the logic of the way pricing works And for the record i always pay my own way, buy my own drinks, split the taxi fare and if i go in as a couple... Pay the fem fee and let the guy take the discount as mine is relatively cheap already " cpls aint a draw either and im sure if they could get away with it they would charge the male half the same as a single bloke but they cant turn away a fem which is the only reason for a cpl price.I always find it a little strange that single guys are placed in a seperate catagory from the guys in a cpl profile. I dont just mean by clubs either | |||
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"I understand why single guys would feel like there being cheated, and om not saying your in the wrong but single fems are the life blood of any Club with couples in second place. The low price I think is to encourage as many single fems as possible then the sigla guys make up for it in thete entry costs. Thing is there are that many single guys willing to pay anything just to get a girl to fuck so demand is always there. I'm not single guy bashing btw. I happen to like single men in a club xxxxx I understand that, but it still seems excessive, plus, is it any guarantee of sex? I would doubt it." There should never be a guarantee of sex in any situation | |||
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"No not a garentee. But if it was expensive for single fems then few would go and the club would probably need to shut. Or start gay nights. But as I said demand is there,even if it was £100 entry for a single guy plenty would still show up. Thankfully there are those like yourself that realise entry doesn't garentee sex but there are a lot of single guys that think it's there god given right xxxxxi think women would pay more, you are all guaranteed sex, several times with as many guys, girls or couples as you like. Basically my train of thought is the people who will be enjoying themselves the most should pay the most, coz no matter what it would be worth it for them. & what makes you think all women would be guaranteed sex? To me that infers none of us have standards & would sleep with anyone! ROK well your saying "some of us" but you've clearly took it personally, that's not what I was saying at all, not entirely anyway. I can't get into it, to explain it all I would need a big long shpeal or I'd have to be extremely blunt about it. " be blunt its ok lol was it something like almost a form of prostituition. (Fems are a good draw let them in for a token fee) so overcharge those sleverin at the thought of all the sex mad woman that will be there. Its sexual discrimination plain and simple the pubs and clubs did similar and had to stop due to it | |||
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"Doesnt make sense to me, if single fems are highest in demand & going to get the most action the they should pay more, a single guy could go & get nothing after paying all that i Wouldn't spend the £35 onone of these things, mainly coz i dont pay for sex but also what if you go, you pay that, then none of the women are attractive? I dont expect a super model but if i have to pay then i want super models Your comments are disgusting to be honest and i think some of the other posters are right you would be better off in a brothel ... The club are not asking you to pay for sex or the anount of action you might get they are asking you to pay for entry to a club Yes its a but steep for men , and yes it seems un fair but the clubs are running a business at the end of the day and its simple economics of supply and demand ... There are limited male spaces with a higher number of males interested ... The price goes up! There are unlimited female and couple spaces (because otherwise the men would not go) with a lower amount of interest ... To fill the spaces the price goes down! Its pretty much the same as the way people complain about flights in Scotland being more expensive than down south ... Feels unfair but actually its just the logic of the way pricing works And for the record i always pay my own way, buy my own drinks, split the taxi fare and if i go in as a couple... Pay the fem fee and let the guy ake the discount as mine is relatively cheap already " which part was disgusting exactly? Was it the part where I said I wouldn't pay for sex? Or the part where I made a joke that was clearly obvious due to the ![]() | |||
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"I understand why single guys would feel like there being cheated, and om not saying your in the wrong but single fems are the life blood of any Club with couples in second place. The low price I think is to encourage as many single fems as possible then the sigla guys make up for it in thete entry costs. Thing is there are that many single guys willing to pay anything just to get a girl to fuck so demand is always there. I'm not single guy bashing btw. I happen to like single men in a club xxxxx I understand that, but it still seems excessive, plus, is it any guarantee of sex? I would doubt it. There should never be a guarantee of sex in any situation " that isn't what I'm saying!!!!!! When I say women a guaranteed sex I mean it's becuase you all can pick and choose whether or not your going to & who with, us guys don't have that luxury! | |||
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"I understand why single guys would feel like there being cheated, and om not saying your in the wrong but single fems are the life blood of any Club with couples in second place. The low price I think is to encourage as many single fems as possible then the sigla guys make up for it in thete entry costs. Thing is there are that many single guys willing to pay anything just to get a girl to fuck so demand is always there. I'm not single guy bashing btw. I happen to like single men in a club xxxxx I understand that, but it still seems excessive, plus, is it any guarantee of sex? I would doubt it. There should never be a guarantee of sex in any situation " You are taking that out of context | |||
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"I understand why single guys would feel like there being cheated, and om not saying your in the wrong but single fems are the life blood of any Club with couples in second place. The low price I think is to encourage as many single fems as possible then the sigla guys make up for it in thete entry costs. Thing is there are that many single guys willing to pay anything just to get a girl to fuck so demand is always there. I'm not single guy bashing btw. I happen to like single men in a club xxxxx I understand that, but it still seems excessive, plus, is it any guarantee of sex? I would doubt it. There should never be a guarantee of sex in any situation that isn't what I'm saying!!!!!! When I say women a guaranteed sex I mean it's becuase you all can pick and choose whether or not your going to & who with, us guys don't have that luxury!" you do when you place value on yourself (not monetary may I add) master of your own destiny and all that jazz. I see your point though it is so much easier for a female | |||
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"No not a garentee. But if it was expensive for single fems then few would go and the club would probably need to shut. Or start gay nights. But as I said demand is there,even if it was £100 entry for a single guy plenty would still show up. Thankfully there are those like yourself that realise entry doesn't garentee sex but there are a lot of single guys that think it's there god given right xxxxxi think women would pay more, you are all guaranteed sex, several times with as many guys, girls or couples as you like. Basically my train of thought is the people who will be enjoying themselves the most should pay the most, coz no matter what it would be worth it for them. & what makes you think all women would be guaranteed sex? To me that infers none of us have standards & would sleep with anyone! ROK well your saying "some of us" but you've clearly took it personally, that's not what I was saying at all, not entirely anyway. I can't get into it, to explain it all I would need a big long shpeal or I'd have to be extremely blunt about it. be blunt its ok lol was it something like almost a form of prostituition. (Fems are a good draw let them in for a token fee) so overcharge those sleverin at the thought of all the sex mad woman that will be there. Its sexual discrimination plain and simple the pubs and clubs did similar and had to stop due to it" The better or fair way to do it would be, if couples paid £40 then both single males & females should pay £20, | |||
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"Doesnt make sense to me, if single fems are highest in demand & going to get the most action the they should pay more, a single guy could go & get nothing after paying all that i Wouldn't spend the £35 onone of these things, mainly coz i dont pay for sex but also what if you go, you pay that, then none of the women are attractive? I dont expect a super model but if i have to pay then i want super models Your comments are disgusting to be honest and i think some of the other posters are right you would be better off in a brothel ... The club are not asking you to pay for sex or the anount of action you might get they are asking you to pay for entry to a club Yes its a but steep for men , and yes it seems un fair but the clubs are running a business at the end of the day and its simple economics of supply and demand ... There are limited male spaces with a higher number of males interested ... The price goes up! There are unlimited female and couple spaces (because otherwise the men would not go) with a lower amount of interest ... To fill the spaces the price goes down! Its pretty much the same as the way people complain about flights in Scotland being more expensive than down south ... Feels unfair but actually its just the logic of the way pricing works And for the record i always pay my own way, buy my own drinks, split the taxi fare and if i go in as a couple... Pay the fem fee and let the guy ake the discount as mine is relatively cheap already which part was disgusting exactly? Was it the part where I said I wouldn't pay for sex? Or the part where I made a joke that was clearly obvious due to the ![]() The part where you claim women should be paying for the amount of action they get and insinuate because men pay more the women should be hotter Your posts always subtly hint at the fact you clearly think you should be 'entitled' to more sex than you get If its explotation have a strike ... Get the other men to join you and hey presto ... Back to supply and demand the price goes down But we all know that wont happen ... While people continue to pay the clubs will continue to charge Again to draw a non sexual similarity ... People continue to buy seriously over inflated priced tickets for events at the hydro ... But while it continually sells out why would they ever take the price down? Oh and thanks for making me aware that my interpretation of your emojis determines my maturity ... Must keep that in mind ![]() | |||
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"Doesnt make sense to me, if single fems are highest in demand & going to get the most action the they should pay more, a single guy could go & get nothing after paying all that i Wouldn't spend the £35 onone of these things, mainly coz i dont pay for sex but also what if you go, you pay that, then none of the women are attractive? I dont expect a super model but if i have to pay then i want super models Your comments are disgusting to be honest and i think some of the other posters are right you would be better off in a brothel ... The club are not asking you to pay for sex or the anount of action you might get they are asking you to pay for entry to a club Yes its a but steep for men , and yes it seems un fair but the clubs are running a business at the end of the day and its simple economics of supply and demand ... There are limited male spaces with a higher number of males interested ... The price goes up! There are unlimited female and couple spaces (because otherwise the men would not go) with a lower amount of interest ... To fill the spaces the price goes down! Its pretty much the same as the way people complain about flights in Scotland being more expensive than down south ... Feels unfair but actually its just the logic of the way pricing works And for the record i always pay my own way, buy my own drinks, split the taxi fare and if i go in as a couple... Pay the fem fee and let the guy ake the discount as mine is relatively cheap already which part was disgusting exactly? Was it the part where I said I wouldn't pay for sex? Or the part where I made a joke that was clearly obvious due to the ![]() ![]() I didn't say they should pay for the amount of action they get, someone else said they're in bigger demand so I said that's why you should pay more, I don't think I'm entitled to any sex so your wrong about that, to the next thing my opinion is people are just daft but each to their own. Your welcome & you do that in future ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Doesnt make sense to me, if single fems are highest in demand & going to get the most action the they should pay more, a single guy could go & get nothing after paying all that i Wouldn't spend the £35 onone of these things, mainly coz i dont pay for sex but also what if you go, you pay that, then none of the women are attractive? I dont expect a super model but if i have to pay then i want super models Your comments are disgusting to be honest and i think some of the other posters are right you would be better off in a brothel ... The club are not asking you to pay for sex or the anount of action you might get they are asking you to pay for entry to a club Yes its a but steep for men , and yes it seems un fair but the clubs are running a business at the end of the day and its simple economics of supply and demand ... There are limited male spaces with a higher number of males interested ... The price goes up! There are unlimited female and couple spaces (because otherwise the men would not go) with a lower amount of interest ... To fill the spaces the price goes down! Its pretty much the same as the way people complain about flights in Scotland being more expensive than down south ... Feels unfair but actually its just the logic of the way pricing works And for the record i always pay my own way, buy my own drinks, split the taxi fare and if i go in as a couple... Pay the fem fee and let the guy ake the discount as mine is relatively cheap already which part was disgusting exactly? Was it the part where I said I wouldn't pay for sex? Or the part where I made a joke that was clearly obvious due to the ![]() I had already commented on your post & certainly wasn't "brown nosin" as you put it. I have absolutely no need to do that. I was at a club once & a guy there took it upon himself to join in without even an introduction or an invitation. Do you think that because he had paid to get in he had a right to do that??? I don't!! He didn't get very far I have to add. R | |||
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"Doesnt make sense to me, if single fems are highest in demand & going to get the most action the they should pay more, a single guy could go & get nothing after paying all that i Wouldn't spend the £35 onone of these things, mainly coz i dont pay for sex but also what if you go, you pay that, then none of the women are attractive? I dont expect a super model but if i have to pay then i want super models Your comments are disgusting to be honest and i think some of the other posters are right you would be better off in a brothel ... The club are not asking you to pay for sex or the anount of action you might get they are asking you to pay for entry to a club Yes its a but steep for men , and yes it seems un fair but the clubs are running a business at the end of the day and its simple economics of supply and demand ... There are limited male spaces with a higher number of males interested ... The price goes up! There are unlimited female and couple spaces (because otherwise the men would not go) with a lower amount of interest ... To fill the spaces the price goes down! Its pretty much the same as the way people complain about flights in Scotland being more expensive than down south ... Feels unfair but actually its just the logic of the way pricing works And for the record i always pay my own way, buy my own drinks, split the taxi fare and if i go in as a couple... Pay the fem fee and let the guy ake the discount as mine is relatively cheap already which part was disgusting exactly? Was it the part where I said I wouldn't pay for sex? Or the part where I made a joke that was clearly obvious due to the ![]() wasn't talking about you specifically was talking about forums in general coz brown nosing happens all the time,joined in on what? Without knowing what he interrupted or took it upon himself to join in on then I can't answer | |||
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"So after 8 is in a private house not business premises?" After eights used to be a massage parlour years ago it's two small converted grocery shops ..It not attractive from outside I hhave never been in. I tend to look at outside and that might be judgmental ...I am also local and Edinburgh is a small place ...I do like cj tho. I have heard lots of mixed reports from great to terrible so might be worth a visit to see ... x ![]() | |||
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"I understand why single guys would feel like there being cheated, and om not saying your in the wrong but single fems are the life blood of any Club with couples in second place. The low price I think is to encourage as many single fems as possible then the sigla guys make up for it in thete entry costs. Thing is there are that many single guys willing to pay anything just to get a girl to fuck so demand is always there. I'm not single guy bashing btw. I happen to like single men in a club xxxxx" Naughty so an so ha | |||
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"Doesnt make sense to me, if single fems are highest in demand & going to get the most action the they should pay more, a single guy could go & get nothing after paying all that i Wouldn't spend the £35 onone of these things, mainly coz i dont pay for sex but also what if you go, you pay that, then none of the women are attractive? I dont expect a super model but if i have to pay then i want super models Your comments are disgusting to be honest and i think some of the other posters are right you would be better off in a brothel ... The club are not asking you to pay for sex or the anount of action you might get they are asking you to pay for entry to a club Yes its a but steep for men , and yes it seems un fair but the clubs are running a business at the end of the day and its simple economics of supply and demand ... There are limited male spaces with a higher number of males interested ... The price goes up! There are unlimited female and couple spaces (because otherwise the men would not go) with a lower amount of interest ... To fill the spaces the price goes down! Its pretty much the same as the way people complain about flights in Scotland being more expensive than down south ... Feels unfair but actually its just the logic of the way pricing works And for the record i always pay my own way, buy my own drinks, split the taxi fare and if i go in as a couple... Pay the fem fee and let the guy ake the discount as mine is relatively cheap already which part was disgusting exactly? Was it the part where I said I wouldn't pay for sex? Or the part where I made a joke that was clearly obvious due to the ![]() ![]() Or is it to keep the girl crew away, rumour has it that certain longer established members find it appealing as it is and price out blokes who young and skint etc, and rumour that says, I have no idea as i wont go as i dont dri k or like being around drinking, as family is nighymare full of addicts and alcoholics and puts me off, but I do say women and men should and hopefully are treated equally as it is the way forward, women should get paid equally in my eyes, so I'm gonna be a hippocritical target if I suggest different to equal entry, If that means women pay more or men less u decide i suppose. | |||
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"Doesnt make sense to me, if single fems are highest in demand & going to get the most action the they should pay more, a single guy could go & get nothing after paying all that i Wouldn't spend the £35 onone of these things, mainly coz i dont pay for sex but also what if you go, you pay that, then none of the women are attractive? I dont expect a super model but if i have to pay then i want super models Your comments are disgusting to be honest and i think some of the other posters are right you would be better off in a brothel ... The club are not asking you to pay for sex or the anount of action you might get they are asking you to pay for entry to a club Yes its a but steep for men , and yes it seems un fair but the clubs are running a business at the end of the day and its simple economics of supply and demand ... There are limited male spaces with a higher number of males interested ... The price goes up! There are unlimited female and couple spaces (because otherwise the men would not go) with a lower amount of interest ... To fill the spaces the price goes down! Its pretty much the same as the way people complain about flights in Scotland being more expensive than down south ... Feels unfair but actually its just the logic of the way pricing works And for the record i always pay my own way, buy my own drinks, split the taxi fare and if i go in as a couple... Pay the fem fee and let the guy ake the discount as mine is relatively cheap already which part was disgusting exactly? Was it the part where I said I wouldn't pay for sex? Or the part where I made a joke that was clearly obvious due to the ![]() ![]() I don't understand that whole women get paid less stuff, every job I've ever had there have been women working there & they all get paid the same as the guys. I know women 2 of my Aunty's being part of them who get paid more than the men they work with. There are different levels of pay in a lot of work places some get minimum wage can't go lower, I don't believe it. Just a conspiracy theory, like the bible & man landing on the moon in the 60's now yes back then naw don't believe it | |||
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"Interesting thread to start with... then all the negativity came in which is an interesting read too. Most of the negativity seems to be from people who have attended or regularly attend the club which begs the question. How did "I'm not setting out to knock it as a club, so please no defensive comments from regulars, just sharing my opinion and thoughts and seeing what others think." by the op turn into "Oh and I fucked a well known page 3 girl in that club and had a fffm there too. Happy wanking boys." - when did it become ok to act like a douchbag?" its ok it was the telegraph michelle heseltine was apparently lush | |||
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"Interesting thread to start with... then all the negativity came in which is an interesting read too. Most of the negativity seems to be from people who have attended or regularly attend the club which begs the question. How did "I'm not setting out to knock it as a club, so please no defensive comments from regulars, just sharing my opinion and thoughts and seeing what others think." by the op turn into "Oh and I fucked a well known page 3 girl in that club and had a fffm there too. Happy wanking boys." - when did it become ok to act like a douchbag?" Who are the people who have attended that you speak of, i see one lengthy post from a single guy who attends explaining his reasons why in a non negative or attacking way and 1 reply from a male of a couple who appears unhappy with negative comments re club(s) and digs back. Other than that I don't seem to see what you do. D | |||
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"The price is like this because it's their club. Open your own club. I'm sure it will be empty. You probably need to start a men's only club to sit around and wank each other off. Jizzabelle is quite welcome to go to the club on her own for a £5'er. Oh and I fucked a well known page 3 girl in that club and had a fffm there too. Happy wanking boys. ![]() Nice attitude you have there. | |||
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"Yes I agree that it's costly and makes me think I'd rather use an escort service. " It's not actually expensive, unless like cult you don't drink. £35 plus whatever drink you bring yourself... 12 pack of beer... Maybe a sandwich to keep strength up. I spent more than that getting crack ass legs and feet waxed just to experience it ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The price is like this because it's their club. Open your own club. I'm sure it will be empty. You probably need to start a men's only club to sit around and wank each other off. Jizzabelle is quite welcome to go to the club on her own for a £5'er. Oh and I fucked a well known page 3 girl in that club and had a fffm there too. Happy wanking boys. ![]() Totally understand that people find the prices quoted as steep but on quickly checking the club section on fab and looking at some of the most re_iewed clubs on it, the prices are roughly the same and were cheaper then the membership fee is higher and due every 6 month. Up shot is that the club in question is not charging anything more than alot of clubs the length of the country but as said I totally understand that people are put of by the prices ![]() | |||
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"Yes I agree that it's costly and makes me think I'd rather use an escort service. It's not actually expensive, unless like cult you don't drink. £35 plus whatever drink you bring yourself... 12 pack of beer... Maybe a sandwich to keep strength up. I spent more than that getting crack ass legs and feet waxed just to experience it ![]() ![]() I think you miss the point what exactly are you paying so much more for ? I woyld pay £50 for a nice meal but not mcdonalds and I certainly wouldnt pay £7 for the pound saver meal because im male | |||
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"The price is like this because it's their club. Open your own club. I'm sure it will be empty. You probably need to start a men's only club to sit around and wank each other off. Jizzabelle is quite welcome to go to the club on her own for a £5'er. Oh and I fucked a well known page 3 girl in that club and had a fffm there too. Happy wanking boys. ![]() Sorry but it's just so utterly moronic. If you want to pay for sex go to a prostitute. £50 gets you a good shag in leith. It's simple economics. Forget the price the women pay.... What do you want? More women there? Yes? Make it cheep or free for women. Want a better club with equal pricing? How do you do that? Ok if it was me I'd audtion all the guys to check check they were not morons and look good. So basically my club would be full of good looking intelegent guys then the women might be willing to pay a bit more. But the op has just shown he has. A. little understating of economics. B. Little understanding male and female sexuality. So given a and b..... Is that the sort of guy a woman or couple want to meet? No. | |||
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"The price is like this because it's their club. Open your own club. I'm sure it will be empty. You probably need to start a men's only club to sit around and wank each other off. Jizzabelle is quite welcome to go to the club on her own for a £5'er. Oh and I fucked a well known page 3 girl in that club and had a fffm there too. Happy wanking boys. ![]() so woman are after your perception of an ideal man lol seems theres someone without an understanding of human nature.human sexuality covers all the colours of the rainbow and certainly cant be pinned down by that guy on fab. Did woman forget about equality and just accept it was economics ? This is the point the op was making. and so far I see not one valid reason morally and I suspect legally (cant see a guy bringing it before a court) to my mind its nothing more than alot of guys are thick lets treat them like cashcows | |||
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"The price is like this because it's their club. Open your own club. I'm sure it will be empty. You probably need to start a men's only club to sit around and wank each other off. Jizzabelle is quite welcome to go to the club on her own for a £5'er. Oh and I fucked a well known page 3 girl in that club and had a fffm there too. Happy wanking boys. ![]() OK your obviously a man hater, what about auditioning the women? If all the guys have to be good looking & intelegent the all the women have to be the same, can't have these smart good lookin guys going into your club to be disappointed with "NORMAL" everyday looking women!!! So 95% of men & women in Scotland wouldn't get in this club ![]() | |||
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"Cheers guys and girls!! I was a bit bored as Enn is off doing some girly stuff tonight, but this thread has truly cheered me up!!" I know. It makes me think of the "give an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters one of them will event all come up with the complete works of Shakespeare.....this is is what the rest wrote" | |||
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"The price is like this because it's their club. Open your own club. I'm sure it will be empty. You probably need to start a men's only club to sit around and wank each other off. Jizzabelle is quite welcome to go to the club on her own for a £5'er. Oh and I fucked a well known page 3 girl in that club and had a fffm there too. Happy wanking boys. ![]() Even as a woman with a career I actually do forget equality for women and think the arguements for equal pay are rubbish... Not because of economics because of genetics and partly choice We have the biology to have the kids ... We actually then have the choice to pass the maternity leave to our partners now but most dont and a high portion also dont return to work.... Equal pay stats work on average salaries so if a portion of your gender is out of working action either temporarily, work part time and give up the opportunity of promotions or stop working at all ... Then of course on average you would be paid less. Its not sexism its lifes logic so get over it Same sentence applies to the men moaning about the prices in clubs (Bet you never thought an after 8 thread was going down this route haha) | |||
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"The price is like this because it's their club. Open your own club. I'm sure it will be empty. You probably need to start a men's only club to sit around and wank each other off. Jizzabelle is quite welcome to go to the club on her own for a £5'er. Oh and I fucked a well known page 3 girl in that club and had a fffm there too. Happy wanking boys. ![]() I didn't want to say it.... But yes it's the shortcomings of men that will put women in the position where they don't have the money or desire to go to a club. The club is redressing the balance by financial weighting to encourage membership of a discriminated group. It's why they are clubs, it make makes it permissible to do this. Who would have thought the big guy at the desk would be such a champion for feminism. | |||
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"The price is like this because it's their club. Open your own club. I'm sure it will be empty. You probably need to start a men's only club to sit around and wank each other off. Jizzabelle is quite welcome to go to the club on her own for a £5'er. Oh and I fucked a well known page 3 girl in that club and had a fffm there too. Happy wanking boys. ![]() correct there is life logic involved yes its only the female of the spieces that can bare kids. But you now have the right not to be discriminated against because of your sex. thats the point. Reverse the roles here and I could gurantee this would not be accepted. | |||
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"I understand why single guys would feel like there being cheated, and om not saying your in the wrong but single fems are the life blood of any Club with couples in second place. The low price I think is to encourage as many single fems as possible then the sigla guys make up for it in thete entry costs. Thing is there are that many single guys willing to pay anything just to get a girl to fuck so demand is always there. I'm not single guy bashing btw. I happen to like single men in a club xxxxx I understand that, but it still seems excessive, plus, is it any guarantee of sex? I would doubt it.tbh i Wouldn't spend the £35 onone of these things, mainly coz i dont pay for sex but also what if you go, you pay that, then none of the women are attractive? I dont expect a super model but if i have to pay then i want super models ![]() Look you're not paying for sex and with that attitude you probably wouldn't get any. Your paying to get into a club, the club has to make a profit or there will be no club. Couples are the main stay of any club so they set the bench mark. Single guy's pay more to put the profit up and keep the numbers down and single ladies pay less to attract them in. It's not rocket science | |||
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"As you giys are aware that the price is abit steep for after 8 i also agree but then thag does not stop me attending and yes there are some nights you go and not get sex because for me swinging is about the social aspect aswell ive got some pretty good friends there and still £35 for a night in there is still alot cheaper than i would spend on and actual night out up the town have you guys ever thought about it that way? Also miss bubblegum is correct the proce is so low for women is for them to attend because sometimes you can go and there are two women there and the rest are guys some guys also leave straight away because they are unnatractive or expect to get something which is not the case. Guys like that would be more suited in a brothel than a swingers club how can you expect to just get sex with out actually startig a conversation with the girl there are also a few couples. So its really a hit or a miss but think about it the way i said about a cheap noght out its also bring your own bottle." Talking sense mate. I go to cjs most weeks. I have a great time and have lot's of friends there. I spend a lot less than if I went into Glasgow drinking | |||
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"The price is like this because it's their club. Open your own club. I'm sure it will be empty. You probably need to start a men's only club to sit around and wank each other off. Jizzabelle is quite welcome to go to the club on her own for a £5'er. Oh and I fucked a well known page 3 girl in that club and had a fffm there too. Happy wanking boys. ![]() Reverse the roles and there wouldnt even be a discussion to have as the 'life logic' doesnt work the opposite way and the clubs would be closed Single guys want there to be a lot of women and couples there, so the clubs need to get them in and they do this by offering them a cheaper price In reverse the clubs would be hoaching with single guys who paid a cheap price and since thats not the experience most girls or couples want they just wouldn't pay any price let alone a higher one for that experience and wouldnt go The difference being ... The men do continue to pay ... This isnt discrimination in the way it would be if you charged a white and black person different prices The readon its different is because on average all 3 groups ( men women couples) want different things from the club and therefore to meet this balance its marketed differently for each group | |||
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"Would be the exact same these places use guest lists ie 8 single males 10 cpls and fill with single fems.and it is the exact same as charging white and black prices you are paying for entry into a premises nothing more.so should make no diffrence if black white male female " But the single fems wouldnt pay that price , therefore that last element is out the window ... Without the fems the guys dont go ... And we are back to the club cant make profit and closes At the end of the day guys out there are paying it or you wouldnt have caroline posting a status now full for single guys tonight every week ... Ive never been to after 8 so i cant say if they have a similar limited men only spaces policy | |||
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"Would be the exact same these places use guest lists ie 8 single males 10 cpls and fill with single fems.and it is the exact same as charging white and black prices you are paying for entry into a premises nothing more.so should make no diffrence if black white male female But the single fems wouldnt pay that price , therefore that last element is out the window ... Without the fems the guys dont go ... And we are back to the club cant make profit and closes At the end of the day guys out there are paying it or you wouldnt have caroline posting a status now full for single guys tonight every week ... Ive never been to after 8 so i cant say if they have a similar limited men only spaces policy " so in essence what you are saying is woman cant be discriminated against but guys are fair game? And there are quite a few females who wont attend these clubs for just that reason. Yes its a buisness thats not the question here all buisnesses are out to make profit. Its whether it is done correctly was the question.and to my mind it is a discrimanatory practice that if it was in another area of buisness would not be accepted and would soon be drummed out of buisness | |||
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"You've got to remember females can't go out anywhere without getting some unwanted male attention. Ok normaly off some creep we wouldn't be intrested in. But it's not that hard for females to get sex if we want it. If a club starts charging a fortune then the appeal of a cheap night out is gone and most of us I think would end up organising things off here rather than going. Xxxxxx " yes some would stop going but others would attend.its also not that hard for guys to get sex yes because of the nature of the beast its far easier for fems.as for unwanted attention guys suffer this also (not always sexual other guys and the this is my pub mindset)but we get by same as woman.theres creeps in all walks of life and even with clubs vetting numptys still get in as previous problem posts point out. So it comes back to is it discrimanatory. You go into mcds guy in front orders a big mac meal pays a fiver. Sounds great think I will have that tou order it cashier says £35 as a fem you will enjoy it more. So thats fine lol | |||
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"You've got to remember females can't go out anywhere without getting some unwanted male attention. Ok normaly off some creep we wouldn't be intrested in. But it's not that hard for females to get sex if we want it. If a club starts charging a fortune then the appeal of a cheap night out is gone and most of us I think would end up organising things off here rather than going. Xxxxxx yes some would stop going but others would attend.its also not that hard for guys to get sex yes because of the nature of the beast its far easier for fems.as for unwanted attention guys suffer this also (not always sexual other guys and the this is my pub mindset)but we get by same as woman.theres creeps in all walks of life and even with clubs vetting numptys still get in as previous problem posts point out. So it comes back to is it discrimanatory. You go into mcds guy in front orders a big mac meal pays a fiver. Sounds great think I will have that tou order it cashier says £35 as a fem you will enjoy it more. So thats fine lol" You are entitled to your opinion but I really don't agree with you. I do get why you feel ripped off. If you ever want it to change then your going to have to preach to the single men that are willing to pay the price. I am thankful there are some nice guys out there that do xxxxxx | |||
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"Pmsl got no intrest in the club scene as it is. it was the question asked that intrests me. And the funny ways in which (to my mind) people will justify discrimination " The men who repeatedly attend and pay the fee have justified and validated it Im not saying its wrong to discriminate against women but men are fair game ... Im saying people (men and women) will not pay for something they are not happy with ... If fems paid a high price and it was full of men at cheap prices my guess is they wouldnt like it and wouldnt go However since the clubs are still open (some and certainly more than enough to fill the spaces) men are happy enough with this set up and do go Maybe the men should create a sex union and go on strike for equal costs ![]() | |||
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"Pmsl got no intrest in the club scene as it is. it was the question asked that intrests me. And the funny ways in which (to my mind) people will justify discrimination The men who repeatedly attend and pay the fee have justified and validated it Im not saying its wrong to discriminate against women but men are fair game ... Im saying people (men and women) will not pay for something they are not happy with ... If fems paid a high price and it was full of men at cheap prices my guess is they wouldnt like it and wouldnt go However since the clubs are still open (some and certainly more than enough to fill the spaces) men are happy enough with this set up and do go Maybe the men should create a sex union and go on strike for equal costs ![]() would hold a burn yer boxers day if I wore them lol there will always be guys willibg to pay the price for me that was never the point discrimination is wrong no matter what sex you are. | |||
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"I understand why single guys would feel like there being cheated, and om not saying your in the wrong but single fems are the life blood of any Club with couples in second place. The low price I think is to encourage as many single fems as possible then the sigla guys make up for it in thete entry costs. Thing is there are that many single guys willing to pay anything just to get a girl to fuck so demand is always there. I'm not single guy bashing btw. I happen to like single men in a club xxxxx I understand that, but it still seems excessive, plus, is it any guarantee of sex? I would doubt it.tbh i Wouldn't spend the £35 onone of these things, mainly coz i dont pay for sex but also what if you go, you pay that, then none of the women are attractive? I dont expect a super model but if i have to pay then i want super models ![]() That's not the point being made, have you read the OP? | |||
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"Just revisited this after a few days. I've never seen so much bollox written in a long time re justifying men paying more than women. In a modern society you can't just pick and choose when and if you have equality. It's just plain wrong for single men to pay over the odds. All the club has to do is restrict numbers of men on entry. Anyway, as mentioned it's not just this club in particular....." If it's that bad, don't go. Simple. I choose not to go but if I did, I would probably be put off by the cost anyway | |||
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"Just revisited this after a few days. I've never seen so much bollox written in a long time re justifying men paying more than women. In a modern society you can't just pick and choose when and if you have equality. It's just plain wrong for single men to pay over the odds. All the club has to do is restrict numbers of men on entry. Anyway, as mentioned it's not just this club in particular..... If it's that bad, don't go. Simple. I choose not to go but if I did, I would probably be put off by the cost anyway" I dont see where the poster said he wanted to go. I do see him giving an opinion on the question asked. It may suprise folk and the clubs the potential revenue they turn their noses up at because of their conviction that how they are practicing is right. | |||
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"Just revisited this after a few days. I've never seen so much bollox written in a long time re justifying men paying more than women. In a modern society you can't just pick and choose when and if you have equality. It's just plain wrong for single men to pay over the odds. All the club has to do is restrict numbers of men on entry. Anyway, as mentioned it's not just this club in particular..... If it's that bad, don't go. Simple. I choose not to go but if I did, I would probably be put off by the cost anywayI dont see where the poster said he wanted to go. I do see him giving an opinion on the question asked. It may suprise folk and the clubs the potential revenue they turn their noses up at because of their conviction that how they are practicing is right." Sorry - I forgot, I'm part of the clique. I'll slink off back to the fluff threads as my _iew isn't important enough to post | |||
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"No one said your _iew isnt important. Its as important as the next persons. A little unfair to intimate that the person was wanting to go when he was just giving an opinion on a question that was asked." No, I said 'don't go'. It's quite a simple thing Kola. If you don't like something, you stay away from it. You wouldn't run towards a raging inferno would you? So if I want to express my own _iews then I will. I'm sure that the poster won't mind and if they do take offence to it, then they are more than welcome to tell me so at which time I shall apologise to them personally. However, in this instance, maybe you are guilty of what you hate so much about the forums - jumping on someone's comment when it wasn't rude/breaking any rules/about you/aimed at you. It was a simple comment. | |||
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"Lol a simple comment that can be taken in many diffrent ways as you have said many times. "If its that bad dont go" can be taken as if the person wants to go. Anywat you have shown how you have been picked on enjoy the fluff only thread" Who said I was picked on? I'm surprised you haven't complained no one has come to my rescue yet | |||
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"Just revisited this after a few days. I've never seen so much bollox written in a long time re justifying men paying more than women. In a modern society you can't just pick and choose when and if you have equality. It's just plain wrong for single men to pay over the odds. All the club has to do is restrict numbers of men on entry. Anyway, as mentioned it's not just this club in particular..... If it's that bad, don't go. Simple. I choose not to go but if I did, I would probably be put off by the cost anyway I dont see where the poster said he wanted to go. I do see him giving an opinion on the question asked. It may suprise folk and the clubs the potential revenue they turn their noses up at because of their conviction that how they are practicing is right." ![]() | |||
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"Where's there a demand ![]() ![]() Spot on mate!! The amount of profiles I see on here from females practically begging for gifts etc.. Fuck that, I'm here to party, anything else is a bonus, definitely not here for a second mortgage or to replenish someone's wardrobe.. If I want to spend money to get a pump I'll go on AW where it's guaranteed lol (just kidding btw - not into gas cookers either) | |||
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"Well this escalated quickly... ![]() ![]() And the facts remain. It doesn't matter if you think it's sexist or not. Supply and demand rules the world. If someone doesn't want to pay the high price, then they shouldn't go. Simple ![]() | |||
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"I understand why single guys would feel like there being cheated, and om not saying your in the wrong but single fems are the life blood of any Club with couples in second place. The low price I think is to encourage as many single fems as possible then the sigla guys make up for it in thete entry costs. Thing is there are that many single guys willing to pay anything just to get a girl to fuck so demand is always there. I'm not single guy bashing btw. I happen to like single men in a club xxxxx I understand that, but it still seems excessive, plus, is it any guarantee of sex? I would doubt it." Should it be???? Are you saying if you pay a large entry fee to a club you should be guaranteed some action??? As far as I'm concerned for guys with that mindset the fee isn't nearly high enough! *Granny waltzing in at the coos tail* ![]() | |||
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"I understand why single guys would feel like there being cheated, and om not saying your in the wrong but single fems are the life blood of any Club with couples in second place. The low price I think is to encourage as many single fems as possible then the sigla guys make up for it in thete entry costs. Thing is there are that many single guys willing to pay anything just to get a girl to fuck so demand is always there. I'm not single guy bashing btw. I happen to like single men in a club xxxxx I understand that, but it still seems excessive, plus, is it any guarantee of sex? I would doubt it. Should it be???? Are you saying if you pay a large entry fee to a club you should be guaranteed some action??? As far as I'm concerned for guys with that mindset the fee isn't nearly high enough! *Granny waltzing in at the coos tail* ![]() Do you think they do pensioners rate ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Regards value for money, what constitutes value for money? Considering you aren't actually getting anything for your £35 (initially £60)" Again not sure about after 8s but at cjs for your money you get venue music buffet soft drinks tea coffee condoms towels lube etc | |||
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"Regards value for money, what constitutes value for money? Considering you aren't actually getting anything for your £35 (initially £60) Again not sure about after 8s but at cjs for your money you get venue music buffet soft drinks tea coffee condoms towels lube etc " Let's not forget an amazing venue with amazing people xxxxx | |||
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"The point has been expressed and agreed numerous times. As many others have said, that's the way it is and it won't be changing. As I've already said, I think a cost for couples and another for singles is fairer, but from a business point of _iew it's probably not feasible. It is unfair, I don't agree it's discrimination. " so you would be happy with the example I gave above £5 for men to eat £35 for fems. As that is no diffrent to a club charging £5 fem entry to a venue and £35 male entry to the same venue. Unless you are getting a diffrent service why the change In price? And for those saying it will never change your correct unless folk stand against it and fight back. | |||
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"Just to clarify, I'm not knocking the club itself as a venue, I've never been, but have heard mixed re_iews, I'm questioning the pricing structure which is the main reason I haven't been." And you have had answers, some you give a thumbs up to and others you have stated "is not the point" but they have been on point. As I have stated before, this is not exclusive to the After 8 club but in fact an average of what I quickly checked nationwide so it might be an idea to post such a question in the "Swinging Club Discussion" forum. That way it wont look like an attack on just the 1 club. As you feel strongly about this, what would you suggest clubs do to counter such issues you have with the pricing baring in mind that it is a business that at least has to break even to stay open. This is not a dig but a true question which owners, manager etc of clubs would be interested in so to keep all parties attending happy. ![]() | |||
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"Just to clarify, I'm not knocking the club itself as a venue, I've never been, but have heard mixed re_iews, I'm questioning the pricing structure which is the main reason I haven't been. And you have had answers, some you give a thumbs up to and others you have stated "is not the point" but they have been on point. As I have stated before, this is not exclusive to the After 8 club but in fact an average of what I quickly checked nationwide so it might be an idea to post such a question in the "Swinging Club Discussion" forum. That way it wont look like an attack on just the 1 club. As you feel strongly about this, what would you suggest clubs do to counter such issues you have with the pricing baring in mind that it is a business that at least has to break even to stay open. This is not a dig but a true question which owners, manager etc of clubs would be interested in so to keep all parties attending happy. ![]() When I've said it's not the point it's because it wasn't on point. It wasn't related to pricing structure, which is the point of the original question. My question relates to After8 as it's local. | |||
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"The point has been expressed and agreed numerous times. As many others have said, that's the way it is and it won't be changing. As I've already said, I think a cost for couples and another for singles is fairer, but from a business point of _iew it's probably not feasible. It is unfair, I don't agree it's discrimination. so you would be happy with the example I gave above £5 for men to eat £35 for fems. As that is no diffrent to a club charging £5 fem entry to a venue and £35 male entry to the same venue. Unless you are getting a diffrent service why the change In price? And for those saying it will never change your correct unless folk stand against it and fight back." I read your argument, I'm saying I don't agree with it. And I've already expressed my opinion. | |||
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"Just to clarify, I'm not knocking the club itself as a venue, I've never been, but have heard mixed re_iews, I'm questioning the pricing structure which is the main reason I haven't been. And you have had answers, some you give a thumbs up to and others you have stated "is not the point" but they have been on point. As I have stated before, this is not exclusive to the After 8 club but in fact an average of what I quickly checked nationwide so it might be an idea to post such a question in the "Swinging Club Discussion" forum. That way it wont look like an attack on just the 1 club. As you feel strongly about this, what would you suggest clubs do to counter such issues you have with the pricing baring in mind that it is a business that at least has to break even to stay open. This is not a dig but a true question which owners, manager etc of clubs would be interested in so to keep all parties attending happy. ![]() Fair enough but I believe that some have been on point so will just have to agree to disagree. the after 8 club maybe local but its not just a local issue but national issue to which you may receive further explanation to your issues ![]() | |||
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"ok lets charge £15 per person = no club. So now your happy you got what you want, but it does not really matter as you dont go anyway. i could understand more if you attened the clubs and moaned but when you dont know what your talking about apart from the price. Enlighten yourself then come talk about it" Prime example of either missing or ignoring the point to have a personal dig. | |||
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"The point has been expressed and agreed numerous times. As many others have said, that's the way it is and it won't be changing. As I've already said, I think a cost for couples and another for singles is fairer, but from a business point of _iew it's probably not feasible. It is unfair, I don't agree it's discrimination. so you would be happy with the example I gave above £5 for men to eat £35 for fems. As that is no diffrent to a club charging £5 fem entry to a venue and £35 male entry to the same venue. Unless you are getting a diffrent service why the change In price? And for those saying it will never change your correct unless folk stand against it and fight back. I read your argument, I'm saying I don't agree with it. And I've already expressed my opinion. " the point im making is your saying its not discrimination which I find strange and wonder how it can be seen as anything but | |||
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"It is discrimination in my opinion, just the same as nightclubs charge men more too, I'm sure most have agreed that. Some haven't. But, I think what a lot of people have tried to point out is that it won't change as long as people are willing to keep paying. They've also pointed out clubs are businesses. They have to make money somehow otherwise they'd close. And we've also seen the supply and demand argument too. So why are we all still banging on about it? It won't change. If people don't like it, don't use the clubs. For those who like the clubs and are willing to keep attending and paying what ever the charge may or may not be, that's their choice. Leave them be. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"ok lets charge £15 per person = no club. So now your happy you got what you want, but it does not really matter as you dont go anyway. i could understand more if you attened the clubs and moaned but when you dont know what your talking about apart from the price. Enlighten yourself then come talk about it Prime example of either missing or ignoring the point to have a personal dig." Certainly not personal and to the point. | |||
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"The point has been expressed and agreed numerous times. As many others have said, that's the way it is and it won't be changing. As I've already said, I think a cost for couples and another for singles is fairer, but from a business point of _iew it's probably not feasible. It is unfair, I don't agree it's discrimination. so you would be happy with the example I gave above £5 for men to eat £35 for fems. As that is no diffrent to a club charging £5 fem entry to a venue and £35 male entry to the same venue. Unless you are getting a diffrent service why the change In price? And for those saying it will never change your correct unless folk stand against it and fight back. I read your argument, I'm saying I don't agree with it. And I've already expressed my opinion. the point im making is your saying its not discrimination which I find strange and wonder how it can be seen as anything but" The point you're making is that you could have an argument in an empty room | |||
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"It is legally discrimination, though that isn't "my" point, just the lack of parity and the unfairness. I fully understand the business model and it's flawed reasoning. Unless they want to keep it exclusive (select members ), the price structure puts new members off. All I'm suggesting is a fairer pricing structure." Easily. | |||
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"It is legally discrimination, though that isn't "my" point, just the lack of parity and the unfairness. I fully understand the business model and it's flawed reasoning. Unless they want to keep it exclusive (select members ), the price structure puts new members off. All I'm suggesting is a fairer pricing structure." No it's not. Next thing you'll be walking into the women's changing rooms at the swimming baths because your mint pays for the facility and going to primary school because it's age discrimination. The have to be a private members club to do this so they don't break the law by charging differently depending on gender. That's why it's a private club. Best of luck setting up a public sex club. Lol ![]() | |||
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"It is legally discrimination, though that isn't "my" point, just the lack of parity and the unfairness. I fully understand the business model and it's flawed reasoning. Unless they want to keep it exclusive (select members ), the price structure puts new members off. All I'm suggesting is a fairer pricing structure. No it's not. Next thing you'll be walking into the women's changing rooms at the swimming baths because your mint pays for the facility and going to primary school because it's age discrimination. The have to be a private members club to do this so they don't break the law by charging differently depending on gender. That's why it's a private club. Best of luck setting up a public sex club. Lol ![]() Yawn. | |||
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"It is legally discrimination, though that isn't "my" point, just the lack of parity and the unfairness. I fully understand the business model and it's flawed reasoning. Unless they want to keep it exclusive (select members ), the price structure puts new members off. All I'm suggesting is a fairer pricing structure. No it's not. Next thing you'll be walking into the women's changing rooms at the swimming baths because your mint pays for the facility and going to primary school because it's age discrimination. The have to be a private members club to do this so they don't break the law by charging differently depending on gender. That's why it's a private club. Best of luck setting up a public sex club. Lol ![]() keep going we might get to 175 posts and watch this turd sink. I have a feeling this is a source of bitter dissapointment. Face it. Women are the respected minority in nsa sex. You just need to get over it. They are your masters. You their minion. | |||
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"I sense a clique defence team." I spotted bitter. It's simple it's not against the law. It's simple economics. It's influenced by gender differences. If you don't get that swinging, proper swinging is not going to be a successful adventure for you. | |||
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"I sense a clique defence team. I spotted bitter. It's simple it's not against the law. It's simple economics. It's influenced by gender differences. If you don't get that swinging, proper swinging is not going to be a successful adventure for you. " If you are accusing me of being bitter you are simply in defensive mode, private clubs are not immune to equality laws, ask golf clubs. And now you say if I am not willing to be taken advantage of as a male by a swinging club swinging isn't for me. Pure nonsense. 99% of swingers do not attend clubs. | |||
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" I never saw anyone suggest the fee should guarantee action, it's ordinary people not a brothel, though brothels are cheaper and guaranteed, so I'm told." You maybe want a scan through cults earlier posts around for that price he wants page 3 model quality and girls should pay more for the extra action they will receive (paraphrasing of course) Also not sure what the golf club point was but i have worked in golf clubs whete the women are not even allowed to drink in the mens bar ... There was not a womens only bar btw Lets face it in lots of areas of life either men or women are discriminated against ... Boohoo its not fair bla bla now can the pc brigade find the next thing they want to be up in arms about while the rest of us just accept its life and get on with it please ![]() | |||
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"OP, many people having what you _iew as an opposing opinion to you is not a clique. People are able to think for themselves. Just as if most people agreeing with you (and to be fair, most of us ARE saying it's not a fair pricing structure) would not mean you are part of a clique. That word gets bandied around far too often on here, as an excuse for people not all having the same opinion. People have different _iews, it'd be incredibly boring if we didn't. I'm getting a little sick of it being assumed I'm unintelligent and can't make up my own mind about something. " I was referring to the digs not varying opinion. | |||
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"OP, many people having what you _iew as an opposing opinion to you is not a clique. People are able to think for themselves. Just as if most people agreeing with you (and to be fair, most of us ARE saying it's not a fair pricing structure) would not mean you are part of a clique. That word gets bandied around far too often on here, as an excuse for people not all having the same opinion. People have different _iews, it'd be incredibly boring if we didn't. I'm getting a little sick of it being assumed I'm unintelligent and can't make up my own mind about something. I was referring to the digs not varying opinion." Some people on here are obsessed with this imagined clique, it's really quite bizarre. It obviously means more to them than it does the accused individuals. The thing is, if people are on here regularly, chat a lot and perhaps even socialise together, they will become friends. That's not a clique. If my group of friends met someone who clearly wasn't a nice person, why would we bother being friendly with them? If they prefer to see that as being cliquey instead of stopping to wonder why people don't like them, that's their chip on their shoulder and not ours. Still doesn't make us a clique, or mean girls. Sorry to go massively off point there, it's not even point adjacent, but I really am sick of that word! | |||
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