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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

With the sad story unfolding from the care home down south, what are your thoughts on allowing us all to have the right to decide wether to live or die peacefully when diagnosed with severe illnesses?

I think the poor elderly mans decision to shoot his dementia suffering wife in the head will split opinions dramatically, but seeing someone deteriorate to an empty shell is heartbreaking. In my opinion, had the choice been readily available by law, this incident could have been avoided. No matter which side of the fence you sit I think we can all agree that it's just so sad

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow


"With the sad story unfolding from the care home down south, what are your thoughts on allowing us all to have the right to decide wether to live or die peacefully when diagnosed with severe illnesses?

I think the poor elderly mans decision to shoot his dementia suffering wife in the head will split opinions dramatically, but seeing someone deteriorate to an empty shell is heartbreaking. In my opinion, had the choice been readily available by law, this incident could have been avoided. No matter which side of the fence you sit I think we can all agree that it's just so sad "

Agreed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dementia is a horrible disease .. I've recently lost my grandmother to it.

Poor old souls.. Both of them

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By *lawless doveWoman
over a year ago

bothwell

Any debilitating illness is hard to live with and support. I hated watching family members suffer as they couldn't do what they once were able to. Although I miss them every single day I understand why they took the action they did ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll bet there is a high number of people in the country with an illness or a disability that it would be more humane for them to choose their own passing, but a high number of them are in care homes, a lot of which are owned by politicians or they are directors etc, so for them to pass a bill to allow people the choice, would mean years of money milked from the poor relatives that they would be doing themselves out of!

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"I'll bet there is a high number of people in the country with an illness or a disability that it would be more humane for them to choose their own passing, but a high number of them are in care homes, a lot of which are owned by politicians or they are directors etc, so for them to pass a bill to allow people the choice, would mean years of money milked from the poor relatives that they would be doing themselves out of! "
I whole heatredly agree with a dignified death for folk its unfair to force people to live in pain or without much mental ability (part of the reasons for my many dnrs) its so sad that this man feels this was his only option and unfortunatly it will be his lasting memory

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's so very sad. What happens next to this man will be horribly played out in courts.

I believe that people have the right of choice.

It's a desperately sad choice when illness takes over and decisions need to be taken regardless of the law.

I can't see the law changing in this country though and that's a sad fact to face.

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By *ero StressMan
over a year ago

Scotland

Virtually all of my family on my dad's side have died from it so I know how hard it is to watch and be able to do nothing I've always said if I get it I wouldn't want my loved ones watching me slowly go I've always said I think if u sign sumthing to say if I get something like this when I get to a certain point the right to die should come in if u choose it but this would have to be legal and signed b4 u get diagnosed with anything

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

It's a devastating illness. I've lost a few relatives to it and I know I will almost certainly lose my mum to it as she is starting to show signs now.

I know she knows it's coming and she has often said she doesnt want to end up like her mum. I don't have a solution for her.

All I can do is pray it doesn't take her mind completely before she dies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think euthinasia should be legalised, people should be aloud to do whatever they want with their own life even if that means taking it or having a family member or friend take it for you if your not able.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It's a devastating illness. I've lost a few relatives to it and I know I will almost certainly lose my mum to it as she is starting to show signs now.

I know she knows it's coming and she has often said she doesnt want to end up like her mum. I don't have a solution for her.

All I can do is pray it doesn't take her mind completely before she dies

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I'm really sorry to hear that. Couldn't imagine the feelings you would have with this. I sat through a relative fade to nothing with MND and it was that dreadful words can't really describe. He only lasted three months after the diagnosis and has genuinely left me with a fear of the disease.

Thoughts go to you and your family buddy

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"It's a devastating illness. I've lost a few relatives to it and I know I will almost certainly lose my mum to it as she is starting to show signs now.

I know she knows it's coming and she has often said she doesnt want to end up like her mum. I don't have a solution for her.

All I can do is pray it doesn't take her mind completely before she dies

I'm really sorry to hear that. Couldn't imagine the feelings you would have with this. I sat through a relative fade to nothing with MND and it was that dreadful words can't really describe. He only lasted three months after the diagnosis and has genuinely left me with a fear of the disease.

Thoughts go to you and your family buddy "

Thankyou.

The only way to deal with it is hope for the best and prepare for the worst. But don't let it rule your life. She doesn't. Live life to the fullest you can.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It should be legalised to end the suffering.

I had to become my dad's full time carer when dementia set in on top of his cancer. It's heartbreaking and I hope I never have to put my children through what I've had to deal with.

He eventually took his own life, whether it was accidental or meant (he was still a switched on cookie) we'll never know but I actually felt relieved that he had died and was at peace. Even his own doctor came to see my family personally and said the same about our theory of him taking matters in to his own hands, she knew he had suffered for far too long with all his illnesses.

Her x

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By *eather47Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

It is coming up to a year to the day when i lost some one very close to me He was my husband and although we had been separated for 22 yrs we still got on great we never divorced just didnt get round to it I had to arrange his care the clubs he went to take over getting his messages and paying his bills He still got out and about but was a shadow of himself He knew what was happening Mercifully he took 3 strokes then chest infections we just let him pass away peacefully yes euthenasia should definately be legalised

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By *eather47Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

If this happens to me im taking loads of pills taking all the pills and slip away peacefully

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Currently watching my old mother in law who has a combination if vascular dementia and Alzheimer's.

She is in a nursing home wasting away, doesn't know a sole. Brought her out on Xmas Day for her dinner but I had to physically carry her up 3 flights of stairs whilst she called me daddy.

When my turn comes I'm going for a walk up into the hills or I'm going scuba diving,

Already saving for the fare to a Swiss clinic for my time

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By *rsFine-MrBallsCouple
over a year ago

markinch

Euthanasia yes, if done under strict ruling, helping someone to die , I fully understand, but shooting in the head, I'm sorry that isn't acceptable by anyone's standards

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Euthanasia yes, if done under strict ruling, helping someone to die , I fully understand, but shooting in the head, I'm sorry that isn't acceptable by anyone's standards"

I admit the way this guy did it was wrong but he may have felt he had no other option

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By *oanne_MacTV/TS
over a year ago

Perth

i think it should be the persons choice 100% if i choose to end myself if suffering a debilitating illness or wasting slowly away everyday watching my family suffer watching it. It should be my choice....

If a pets life quality is so badly deteriorated to the extent its suffering we can take it to the vet and have it put down..

If there was a scheme you could sign up to state you'd like to be eauthenised if you indicate so, akin to a donor card then id probably do it...

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"i think it should be the persons choice 100% if i choose to end myself if suffering a debilitating illness or wasting slowly away everyday watching my family suffer watching it. It should be my choice....

If a pets life quality is so badly deteriorated to the extent its suffering we can take it to the vet and have it put down..

If there was a scheme you could sign up to state you'd like to be eauthenised if you indicate so, akin to a donor card then id probably do it..."

I wouldn't - it would mean putting someone else in the position of having to decide for me. I'd have to have the final say no matter what I think.

But then there are times when that just isn't possible I guess

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By *rsFine-MrBallsCouple
over a year ago

markinch


"Euthanasia yes, if done under strict ruling, helping someone to die , I fully understand, but shooting in the head, I'm sorry that isn't acceptable by anyone's standards

I admit the way this guy did it was wrong but he may have felt he had no other option "

No other option, yeah because we all have guns at the bedside.

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By *oanne_MacTV/TS
over a year ago

Perth


"i think it should be the persons choice 100% if i choose to end myself if suffering a debilitating illness or wasting slowly away everyday watching my family suffer watching it. It should be my choice....

If a pets life quality is so badly deteriorated to the extent its suffering we can take it to the vet and have it put down..

If there was a scheme you could sign up to state you'd like to be eauthenised if you indicate so, akin to a donor card then id probably do it...

I wouldn't - it would mean putting someone else in the position of having to decide for me. I'd have to have the final say no matter what I think.

But then there are times when that just isn't possible I guess "

Signing up for such a scheme would eliminate the argument that you are incapable of making that rational decision...

For arguments sake you sign up at 40 in prescence of a doctor who confirms you're facilties to make such a decision are all ok and registers you.... then when your 80 odds and cant wipe your own arse, wasting away with a debilitating illness and you ask for it to be ended then its clear that was your wish when you had all your faciltys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Euthanasia yes, if done under strict ruling, helping someone to die , I fully understand, but shooting in the head, I'm sorry that isn't acceptable by anyone's standards"

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Euthanasia yes, if done under strict ruling, helping someone to die , I fully understand, but shooting in the head, I'm sorry that isn't acceptable by anyone's standards

I admit the way this guy did it was wrong but he may have felt he had no other option

No other option, yeah because we all have guns at the bedside. "

Like I said, I don't agree with how he did it but I'm not him and I don't know what was going on in his mind

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"i think it should be the persons choice 100% if i choose to end myself if suffering a debilitating illness or wasting slowly away everyday watching my family suffer watching it. It should be my choice....

If a pets life quality is so badly deteriorated to the extent its suffering we can take it to the vet and have it put down..

If there was a scheme you could sign up to state you'd like to be eauthenised if you indicate so, akin to a donor card then id probably do it...

I wouldn't - it would mean putting someone else in the position of having to decide for me. I'd have to have the final say no matter what I think.

But then there are times when that just isn't possible I guess

Signing up for such a scheme would eliminate the argument that you are incapable of making that rational decision...

For arguments sake you sign up at 40 in prescence of a doctor who confirms you're facilties to make such a decision are all ok and registers you.... then when your 80 odds and cant wipe your own arse, wasting away with a debilitating illness and you ask for it to be ended then its clear that was your wish when you had all your faciltys "

But what if they decide you are not mentally fit to make that call? Who then decides?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Can't for the life of me see why this could start steering towards arguments.

No-one can say shooting her in the head was the best way or even close, and I don't think anyone can take the statement of guns at the bedside seriously. But do you think it's just as humane to let her disease consume her slowly, put her through the pain of a slow death?

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By *iceguy 1966Man
over a year ago

in pa postcode

100% agree with having the right to decide when you die and i fully support the poor man that shot his wife in the head as he seen it as a swift manner to end her pain and misery

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Can't for the life of me see why this could start steering towards arguments.

No-one can say shooting her in the head was the best way or even close, and I don't think anyone can take the statement of guns at the bedside seriously. But do you think it's just as humane to let her disease consume her slowly, put her through the pain of a slow death?

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Please don't mistake passionate debate for arguments. I fully understand the point they were making. It's just that my pint was more about the old mans state of mind and desperation

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My great grandmother died in a nursing home from alzheimers, I was maybe ten years old and its ingrained in my brain the two times I visited her.

The stink of urine and the way she looked all crumpled and incoherent.

Let them choose!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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Please don't mistake passionate debate for arguments. I fully understand the point they were making. It's just that my pint was more about the old mans state of mind and desperation "

Haha aye ok 'passionate debate' it is.

I think the use of a gun to the head was quite possibly his only option to end her life. As far as reported he doesn't have use of an arm and hasn't much strength left in him. All speculation ofcourse which will be killing his family. Really sad thing to happen.

If I am ever diagnosed with a disease that will kill me slowly and also cause emotional pain to my loved ones I would want the choice to die. Government will hopefully one day look at it again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

assisted suicide should be available to everyone, healthy or not, young or old. Sign me up.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"My great grandmother died in a nursing home from alzheimers, I was maybe ten years old and its ingrained in my brain the two times I visited her.

The stink of urine and the way she looked all crumpled and incoherent.

Let them choose!"
the problem is especially with disease like alzheimers they are beyond the point of choosing thats why upon diagnosis there should be options im not sure I agree with assisted suicide as in another person having to do it much prefer the swiss way setup a way for the individual if in control of their facultys to "press the button" its unfortunate but it will require alot of discussion and alot of safeguards

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"My great grandmother died in a nursing home from alzheimers, I was maybe ten years old and its ingrained in my brain the two times I visited her.

The stink of urine and the way she looked all crumpled and incoherent.

Let them choose!the problem is especially with disease like alzheimers they are beyond the point of choosing thats why upon diagnosis there should be options im not sure I agree with assisted suicide as in another person having to do it much prefer the swiss way setup a way for the individual if in control of their facultys to "press the button" its unfortunate but it will require alot of discussion and alot of safeguards"

I'm with you - not sure I'd like to be the one who has to decide for someone not in control

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dying like being born is part of life... we do not accept that easily in our culture... my belief is that choosing how to die, whether that be to take every option to slow that OR choose to depart this physical world whenever we choose i.e. before medical science would let us is a human right... one which should be respected and treated with dignity. Losing someone you love is tragic especially if that person dies before their time but nonetheless it is should be about a celebration of their life and having had them IN your life... that may sound cheesy but it is true... for me anyway - Red xXx

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