FabSwingers.com forum: The term 'Jock'

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Is it just me or do others find the word 'jock' offensive?reference to a term used in a post in the lounge forum 'horniest town'

What's your thoughts people?

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By *othingButCocoChanelWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

Offensive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Offensive

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By *unknSoulCouple
over a year ago

dumfries-ish

Not in the slightest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't find it offensive at all

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Very very little offends me.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"Very very little offends me."

Well apart from the USA

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a lot of politically correct crap.

Scots have been known as Jocks for years. I look on it as a sort of term of endearment and am proud to be a Jock.

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By *ustcutieWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh

Doesn't bother me , where I lived before there were jocks, scousers, beans etc it was always used as a friendly term

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By *he nicknameMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Doesn't matter to me what people say, especially someone that probably has a fake profile, it's how you define yourself that matters.

maybe take it as a compliment: jock, as in jock strap...im sure dirtythoughts and i would look good in them!

I'm usually asked if I'm a foreigner and I sometimes use my accent, I don't always feel like a 'jock' anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People are too easily offended today banter banter banter

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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago

near Glasgow

I know some people will disagree with me, but Britain has been ruined by, amongst other things, political correctness.

For years, Scots have been known as Jocks, the Welsh, Taff, The Irish, Paddy. As long as it's not used in a derogatory manner, what on earth's the problem? Believe it or not, most Pakistanis don't have a problem being called Paki, as long as it's not in an abusive or derogatory way.

The problems have been caused by the liberal do-gooders.

In Ireland, there's a bus company with a fleet of coaches, in green livery and with in large orange letters on the side, 'The Paddywagon'. That's Paddyies, referring to themselves as Paddy, so where's the problem?

Proud to be a Scot, and if someone calls me Jock, so what!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

doesnt bother me but have noticed in the lounge most say it to try wind us up

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By *one IdolMan
over a year ago

your imagination

When I lived in Liverpool I was called Sweaty (as in sweaty sock , no cos of actual sweatage)

And in London I was Black Jock , in both cases I quite liked it , gaining a nickname I think shows acceptance , my mate was known as Izum the paki and even refered to himself as Izum the paki , its all about context really .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

just another word for Scottish, been called worse on rugby trips lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a racial slur. I personally find it offensive.

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By *ary_ArgyllMan
over a year ago

Argyll

"It's a racial slur. I personally find it offensive. "

Don't think it is a racial slur - it is not normally associated with anything particularly negative as far as I know.

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By *ary_ArgyllMan
over a year ago

Argyll

Just found this on BBC from 2009 - gives some context

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8094716.stm

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By *ifes journeyCouple
over a year ago

scotland

Doesn't bother me

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By *vTanyaMan
over a year ago

A village in Perthshire

I think that if you look hard enough for something to be offended by, you will find it. Get over it!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

One of my best m8's when I was in the forces nickname was jock and he still answers to the name.

I suppose for me it's in what context it's used and if used in a derogatory way instead of friendly banter.

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By *vTanyaMan
over a year ago

A village in Perthshire

Well, as an Englishman living in Scotland, (20yrs), I've been called a lot worse! Not just banter. It was getting a bottle in the face just for being English that I really took exception to. (Tho the scarring is very sexy, so women tell me)! Sometimes you just gotta laugh about things. If someone deliberately offends you personally, then take offence. Otherwise, excuse their ignorance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think people are just over sensitive these days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It depends on how you are called Jock !!! it is not what you say but the way you say it also you can only be offended if you allow yourself to be offended.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Offensive? No way. It's hardly an insult is it? My auntie who came from Newcastle called her beloved husband "Jock" all through their long and happy married life. Im sure she had forgotten his real name.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Turning into a country that's offended by anything get a grip and grow a pair

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Is it just me or do others find the word 'jock' offensive?reference to a term used in a post in the lounge forum 'horniest town'

What's your thoughts people?"

SERIOUSLY?????

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By *all saulMan
over a year ago

Dunbartonshire

Nah doesn't offend me tbh as stated tho depends on context.

Just to diverge a little is it offensive to refer to a Chinese take away as a chinky or a corner shop as a p#ki shop?

I must state am not trying to be offensive here but think how many times you have heard these phrases and not been offended (rightly or wrongly btw just making a point) so on that basis why should the term kick be considered more or less offensive?

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By *woplustwocoupleCouple
over a year ago

Hawick

Its only offensive if used in a derogatory fashion. i.e You Jock bastard. In normal usage i.e Hes a Jock, its OK. The difference between being a racist comment and not a racist comment.

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By *isty286Couple
over a year ago

Dorset

"Nah doesn't offend me tbh as stated tho depends on context.

Just to diverge a little is it offensive to refer to a Chinese take away as a chinky or a corner shop as a p#ki shop?

Ooooh you said the term kick in public, is that a racist slur on people who play football, only joking we have auto correct too, just proving a point that if someone objects then there are some who will jump on anything you say, ... had one the other day telling me that the word actress is sexist and offensive, it's actor now non gender specific, ... really!!! rant over

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Nah doesn't offend me tbh as stated tho depends on context.

Just to diverge a little is it offensive to refer to a Chinese take away as a chinky or a corner shop as a p#ki shop?

Personally I'm not offended but do groan hearing both chinky and paki. I'd much rather hear it be termed corner shop or had it's title used rather than be defined as the Paki shop. It's just a shop.

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By *all saulMan
over a year ago

Dunbartonshire

Yeah point I was getting at some of the people who object to the term jock might be the very same ones who see no issue with the other terms mentioned not in a malicious way sometimes these terms creep into normal conversations

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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago

near Glasgow

"Turning into a country that's offended by anything get a grip and grow a pair"

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By *all saulMan
over a year ago

Dunbartonshire

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah these blacks,kykes, pakis, wops just need to get a sense of humour eh? *ffs!*

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By *he nicknameMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

The term was used in a derogatory way in another posting the op refers to and the other op seemed to delight in trying to offend.

I've looked through the ages of some of the people who seem not object and most are older than me. It's some of the younger profiles that perhaps have some reticence.

The op here doesn't strike me as someone who is easily offended and if someone else asked the question it might have been a less black or white issue.

Personally, I found the clown who was making the posting in another room rather funny in his attempts to wind people up, but I'm glad that some sensible pc is encouraged.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I say the term chinky it refers to food people of all races and colors shorten nicknames Scottish becomes scots or jock but other races get very offended if we do it to them or do they it's just the politically correct far left who tell us this and the far right extremists hijack names and use them in an offensive way but once the innocent meaning is hijacked there's no going back. The term spastic used to be widely used but you wouldn't think of using it now it's as offensive as the N word to some

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

Not offended at all i have been called worse

...political correctness has got us all in a twist as what words we can use ...when i was growing up it was POLITE to call someone coloured now if you call someone that your a racist get a grip people not all names are used in a derogatory manner sometimes we just dont know what we're allowed to say ( innocently) anymore without causing offence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really dont mind x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like water of a ducks back. Really!!! Get a life brother jock.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry but excusing Chinky, Paki or any other racial slur on a minority off the back of a majority (Scots/Jocks) being OK with such references is an absurdity. It reduces the discussion to one of the dominant powers.

Blacks and other minorities on the whole tolerated such abuses for fear of further stigmatism.

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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago

near Glasgow

"Sorry but excusing Chinky, Paki or any other racial slur on a minority off the back of a majority (Scots/Jocks) being OK with such references is an absurdity. It reduces the discussion to one of the dominant powers.

Blacks and other minorities on the whole tolerated such abuses for fear of further stigmatism. "

But who decided that Chinky, Paki etc were racial slurs?? Too many self-opinionated people about, making rules when very often rules aren't needed.

As has been said, if the terms are used in a derogatory manner, then that's different, but I take great exception to a suggestion that I'm racist!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As someone who has served in two of our three military services I've been called a Jock and a "sweaty" a gazillion times over the years.

Gives, not a toss

Had a collegue once whos nickname was "FRISP" based on a crisp/snack of the era.

Mind you he was a "feckin repulsive ignorant Scottish prick...." Those were the days!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

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By *he nicknameMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I'm pleased that the likes of

Jim Davidson

Bernard manning

Alf garnett

Golliwogs

And their ilk no longer dominate british tv (and at the licence fee expense).

Admittedly though, some dinosaurs are still around.

I imagine that those with racist _iews would not be empathetic to other forms of issues: gays, immigration, capital punishment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very Offensive unless your name really is jock ! Then its ok !

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By *976scottMan
over a year ago

North Lanarkshire

"Is it just me or do others find the word 'jock' offensive?reference to a term used in a post in the lounge forum 'horniest town'

What's your thoughts people?"

Guys if you find the word "jock" offensive your obviously easily offended and maybe Fab might not be the right environment!

Don't mean to offend the easily offended

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By *ootall2920Man
over a year ago

Linlithgow

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By *ootall2920Man
over a year ago

Linlithgow

Not at all offensive.

I think people are just looking for reasons to be offended if the find this term offensive.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The term was used in a derogatory way in another posting the op refers to and the other op seemed to delight in trying to offend.

I've looked through the ages of some of the people who seem not object and most are older than me. It's some of the younger profiles that perhaps have some reticence.

The op here doesn't strike me as someone who is easily offended and if someone else asked the question it might have been a less black or white issue.

Personally, I found the clown who was making the posting in another room rather funny in his attempts to wind people up, but I'm glad that some sensible pc is encouraged. "

spot on

A simple open question results in comments like

'get a grip and grow a pair'

'Get a life brother jock.'

'Your easily offended so maybe fab isn't the right enviroment'

Aye if you say so

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By *he nicknameMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"The term was used in a derogatory way in another posting the op refers to and the other op seemed to delight in trying to offend.

I've looked through the ages of some of the people who seem not object and most are older than me. It's some of the younger profiles that perhaps have some reticence.

The op here doesn't strike me as someone who is easily offended and if someone else asked the question it might have been a less black or white issue.

Personally, I found the clown who was making the posting in another room rather funny in his attempts to wind people up, but I'm glad that some sensible pc is encouraged.

spot on

A simple open question results in comments like

'get a grip and grow a pair'

'Get a life brother jock.'

'Your easily offended so maybe fab isn't the right enviroment'

Aye if you say so

I'm flattered that you gave me a wee thumbs up - I couldn't let my mate take on any nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The term was used in a derogatory way in another posting the op refers to and the other op seemed to delight in trying to offend.

I've looked through the ages of some of the people who seem not object and most are older than me. It's some of the younger profiles that perhaps have some reticence.

The op here doesn't strike me as someone who is easily offended and if someone else asked the question it might have been a less black or white issue.

Personally, I found the clown who was making the posting in another room rather funny in his attempts to wind people up, but I'm glad that some sensible pc is encouraged.

spot on

A simple open question results in comments like

'get a grip and grow a pair'

'Get a life brother jock.'

'Your easily offended so maybe fab isn't the right enviroment'

Aye if you say so

The simple question also resulted in comments,

"Offensive"

And

"It's a racial slur. I personally find it offensive"

You've only chosen selectively but it's a forum and wouldn't be interesting if everyone agreed with you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What a lot of politically correct crap.

Scots have been known as Jocks for years. I look on it as a sort of term of endearment and am proud to be a Jock."

Working in an industry with multi national personnel it's not a problem.Jocks ,Micks,Taffs, Yanks,Chinks etc.Nobody takes offence at the referral.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm pleased that the likes of

Jim Davidson

Bernard manning

Alf garnett

Golliwogs

And their ilk no longer dominate british tv (and at the licence fee expense).

Admittedly though, some dinosaurs are still around.

I imagine that those with racist _iews would not be empathetic to other forms of issues: gays, immigration, capital punishment."

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The term was used in a derogatory way in another posting the op refers to and the other op seemed to delight in trying to offend.

I've looked through the ages of some of the people who seem not object and most are older than me. It's some of the younger profiles that perhaps have some reticence.

The op here doesn't strike me as someone who is easily offended and if someone else asked the question it might have been a less black or white issue.

Personally, I found the clown who was making the posting in another room rather funny in his attempts to wind people up, but I'm glad that some sensible pc is encouraged.

spot on

A simple open question results in comments like

'get a grip and grow a pair'

'Get a life brother jock.'

'Your easily offended so maybe fab isn't the right enviroment'

Aye if you say so

The simple question also resulted in comments,

"Offensive"

And

"It's a racial slur. I personally find it offensive"

You've only chosen selectively but it's a forum and wouldn't be interesting if everyone agreed with you."

I never asked anyone to agree with me and it was an open question and not a statement asking if others found the word Jock offensive when blatantly used in a derogatory way as shown in the forum post I stated in my original opening post.

Those who have found it offensive haven't then questioned the character of those who don't.

The comments I have selected are those that question and cast judgement on those who do find it offensive.

Yes it is a forum, and posts that encourage opinions and interests for all to contribute to is what makes a good forum. But what is constructive and positive in a some of the comments posted? Comments like that put off others from having their say/opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What a lot of politically correct crap.

Scots have been known as Jocks for years. I look on it as a sort of term of endearment and am proud to be a Jock.

Working in an industry with multi national personnel it's not a problem.Jocks ,Micks,Taffs, Yanks,Chinks etc.Nobody takes offence at the referral.

Many a year in the army, involved in rugby and plenty of Taff,Paddy,Mick,Scouses etc on my phone contacts list so certainly not nieve to the friendly/banter use of the word jock, however I do find it offensive when said in a derogatory way/tone/context .

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By *ifes journeyCouple
over a year ago

scotland

Wonder how many of you saying the word jock is offensive but have called:

People from Liverpool scousers,

People from Birmingham brummies

How many of you say your going the Chinky for a takeaway.

Get a grip.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You opened the can mate. Like many of the great offended you are not keen on REAL debate but prefer to ban things and words instead to their own ends. Thankfully most rejected the idea of a tartan politburo and we can still have a bit of perspective on things.

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By *ifes journeyCouple
over a year ago

scotland

"What a lot of politically correct crap.

Scots have been known as Jocks for years. I look on it as a sort of term of endearment and am proud to be a Jock.

Working in an industry with multi national personnel it's not a problem.Jocks ,Micks,Taffs, Yanks,Chinks etc.Nobody takes offence at the referral.

This. Its the context it's said in.

A job in used to have years ago meant me dealing with an Asian driver.... Every say I would greet him with hello ya black bastard, was he offended, no, cos at the same time I would shake his hand. Its not what's said it's the intention and meaning behind it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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