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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

how do you like flower of scotland played....

normally you have music thru the entire anthem... however when scotland play rugby at home... they only play music under it for the first verse... then let the crowd sing it for the 2nd verse...

so.... how do you like your?

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By *ckleticklesWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

We tend to drown out any music.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thought it was quite good tbh...normally sing to fast for the band anyway..

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I invariably turn the sound off for FOS.

Does the crowd just carry on singing even though the expectation is they'll stop after verse 1?

Of course, FOS was never intended to be played on the big pipes. They just don't do flattened 7th s.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

while scotland is still part of the union there should only be one anthem played , all should stand and sing god save the queen then the game should be played ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the same with wales , as long as they are part of the union , only god save the queen should be played

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never have and never will stand for the queen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the same with wales , as long as they are part of the union , only god save the queen should be played"

Why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"while scotland is still part of the union there should only be one anthem played , all should stand and sing god save the queen then the game should be played , "
these rebellious scots won't stand for that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"while scotland is still part of the union there should only be one anthem played , all should stand and sing god save the queen then the game should be played , these rebellious scots won't stand for that"

Verse 4 of what the Englishman wants us to sing I believe, no chance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"while scotland is still part of the union there should only be one anthem played , all should stand and sing god save the queen then the game should be played , "

To put it politely go take a flying fuck

Never have and never will sing that abominable song

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Never have and never will stand for the queen "

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By *owayjose8Man
over a year ago

dundee

God save the queen has a verse in it that says to crush the Scots.so why would we want to sing that.but no doubt you did not know that as it is only your national anthem so why would you know it.pmsl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But flower of Scotland sing

Rise now and be a nation again

We never so until we do get independence I for 1 will never sing it again

Unfortunately

Which is a utter shame as it used to give me goosebumps every-time I heard it

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes

As someone who voted yes, I for one will continue to sing Flower of Scotland.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I much prefer Scotland Forever or Highland Cathedral

Although a tune that gets my goose Bumps going is The Gael

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By *yrshiremischiefMan
over a year ago

Kilmarnock


"the same with wales , as long as they are part of the union , only god save the queen should be played"

I doubt very much that your namesake would agree.

Caledonia Uber Alles...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

going to the calcutta cup in march , be fun to hear what the scots sing , if the want to sing flower of scotland i dont have too great a problem with that , but i wonder why they would want to sing about being a nation again when they had the chance and decided not to take it , but as the queen is the queen of not just england but of scotland also they should stand proud and sing god save the queen as subject of her majesty would

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not another national anthem thread ...

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By *ckleticklesWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow


"going to the calcutta cup in march , be fun to hear what the scots sing , if the want to sing flower of scotland i dont have too great a problem with that , but i wonder why they would want to sing about being a nation again when they had the chance and decided not to take it , but as the queen is the queen of not just england but of scotland also they should stand proud and sing god save the queen as subject of her majesty would "

She's not the Queen of Scotland...

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over a year ago

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By *earhugs1Couple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Cymru am Byth!

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By *owayjose8Man
over a year ago

dundee

Ireland and wales have their own national party's but its only the Scottish that are told that they will be crushed in the National anthem and you wonder why we don't want to sing it .

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Has anyone actually heard the 'rebellious Scots' verse being sung?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"while scotland is still part of the union there should only be one anthem played , all should stand and sing god save the queen then the game should be played , "
NAW, never, never ever, only when he'll freezes over, when pigs fly, when the dead rise & walk the earth, av ran out of ways to say it. A honestly cant stand that woman or her family, we're scottish & will sing flower of Scotland #DealWithIt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"going to the calcutta cup in march , be fun to hear what the scots sing , if the want to sing flower of scotland i dont have too great a problem with that , but i wonder why they would want to sing about being a nation again when they had the chance and decided not to take it , but as the queen is the queen of not just england but of scotland also they should stand proud and sing god save the queen as subject of her majesty would

She's not the Queen of Scotland..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would sing the American national anthem & pledge allegiance to the flag before I sang god save the queen!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But flower of Scotland sing

Rise now and be a nation again

We never so until we do get independence I for 1 will never sing it again

Unfortunately

Which is a utter shame as it used to give me goosebumps every-time I heard it"

+1

I also wonder how many NO voters in the Scotland crowd stand and sing this song, unbelievable same as the way they voted.

This song can only belong to proud scots who believe in the song.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would sing the American national anthem & pledge allegiance to the flag before I sang god save the queen! "

+1

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Has anyone actually heard the 'rebellious Scots' verse being sung?"

yes; there was a documentary years back on TV regarding this, as well as how the song evolved and how it was written, im sure it was on BBC

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its every loyal subjects duty to stand and sing with heartfelt joy when god save the queen is played , why would you not want to ? apart from the south of ireland she is the queen of all the rest of the constituant parts of great britian , when i have been to many calcuttta cup games over the years have stood beside many scots and have witnesed them singing god save the queen with great gusto

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"its every loyal subjects duty to stand and sing with heartfelt joy when god save the queen is played , why would you not want to ? apart from the south of ireland she is the queen of all the rest of the constituant parts of great britian , when i have been to many calcuttta cup games over the years have stood beside many scots and have witnesed them singing god save the queen with great gusto "
dont bite he's a fanny

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"its every loyal subjects duty to stand and sing with heartfelt joy when god save the queen is played , why would you not want to ? apart from the south of ireland she is the queen of all the rest of the constituant parts of great britian , when i have been to many calcuttta cup games over the years have stood beside many scots and have witnesed them singing god save the queen with great gusto dont bite he's a fanny"

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By *abio OP   Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

it was just a simple question I asked about Flower of Scotland and the musical arrangement and I hate that "someone" turned it into a god save the queen/ independance thread......

truely disappointing

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"But flower of Scotland sing

Rise now and be a nation again

We never so until we do get independence I for 1 will never sing it again

Unfortunately

Which is a utter shame as it used to give me goosebumps every-time I heard it

+1

I also wonder how many NO voters in the Scotland crowd stand and sing this song, unbelievable same as the way they voted.

This song can only belong to proud scots who believe in the song."

Bollox. Roy Williamson would never have subscribed to that nonsense.

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By *ustcutieWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh


"it was just a simple question I asked about Flower of Scotland and the musical arrangement and I hate that "someone" turned it into a god save the queen/ independance thread......

truely disappointing"

Unfortunately there are some on here who use every opportunity to drag it all up time and time again

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"it was just a simple question I asked about Flower of Scotland and the musical arrangement and I hate that "someone" turned it into a god save the queen/ independance thread......

truely disappointing

Unfortunately there are some on here who use every opportunity to drag it all up time and time again "

Invariably those who cannot accept the result.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it was just a simple question I asked about Flower of Scotland and the musical arrangement and I hate that "someone" turned it into a god save the queen/ independance thread......

truely disappointing

Unfortunately there are some on here who use every opportunity to drag it all up time and time again

Invariably those who cannot accept the result."

After all the no lies & cons

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"it was just a simple question I asked about Flower of Scotland and the musical arrangement and I hate that "someone" turned it into a god save the queen/ independance thread......

truely disappointing

Unfortunately there are some on here who use every opportunity to drag it all up time and time again

Invariably those who cannot accept the result.

After all the no lies & cons

"

Same on both sides fella, you know that but you seem to keep conveniently forgetting about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To bring it back to the OP, I was at Murrayfield on Saturday and I can tell I get goose bumps singing, normally struggle to get the first few words out. The first time they stopped the band for the second verse was a bit strange but extremely atmospheric......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always effective especially when evening game in the dark with just a few lights.....however point of order.....should sing the real 2nd verse silent and then band for the 3rd verse.....

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Nats rule out Flower of Scotland.

http://m.scotsman.com/lifestyle/heritage/flower-of-scotland-won-t-be-made-national-anthem-1-3691243

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That link would not open, but then again it was the "Scotsman" newspaper

Scotland's National Anthem should be;

Caledonia

Music and Lyrics by Dougie MacLean

Published by Limetree Arts and Music (MCPS and PRS UK)

it is a simply heart warning song, with no attack on other countries, simply a feel good song

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dougie MacLean also wrote The Gael which for me is more of a goosebump piece of music and there is no lyrics to it unless you consider the drivel Clannad brought out years ago.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Although I still stand by Scotland Forever

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Dougie MacLean also wrote The Gael which for me is more of a goosebump piece of music and there is no lyrics to it unless you consider the drivel Clannad brought out years ago. "

everyone should attend the Amber festival which is on every year around the end of October, Dougie Maclean organises and puts on many shows all around Dunkeld and Perthshire, some fantastic artists and you will hear all Dougies music, he puts a lot back into his community and its a fantastic time for all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was at the game yesterday, both national anthems sounded great. Not really a fan of flower of Scotland though.

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By *issncuddlesCouple
over a year ago

Ayrshire

As a very long time rugby supporter, may I add a few points??....Firstly, as one that can remember not so long ago that the ONLY anthem that was played at Murrayfield was God save the Queen, and it was hardly heard for the cacophony of boos from the majority of the crowd, to the embarrassment of many!, since the decision to adopt "the flower", at least the booing has stopped. Secondly...to suggest that because of a majority ..no! vote, at the recent political referendum, means that Scots should lose their right to classify themselves as a separate nation is the very attitude that has helped to swell the numbers of voters who support the SNP. Thirdly.....and to answer the original question, the musical arrangement at Murrayfield is not new, and has been used for a number of years, personally, I like it (though not a huge fan of 'the flower',despite having met its writer)I think that the second verse sung unaccompanied shows a degree of togetherness and support for the team when sung in time and in tune, a feat that very few crowds ....especially the Twickenham one...can manage to do when singing their Anthem. My only bug bear is the fact that the majority sing 'to be A nation again......when Roy Williamson wrote the song the words are'to be THE!!!!!!! nation again......please try and get it right people......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As a very long time rugby supporter, may I add a few points??....Firstly, as one that can remember not so long ago that the ONLY anthem that was played at Murrayfield was God save the Queen, and it was hardly heard for the cacophony of boos from the majority of the crowd, to the embarrassment of many!, since the decision to adopt "the flower", at least the booing has stopped. Secondly...to suggest that because of a majority ..no! vote, at the recent political referendum, means that Scots should lose their right to classify themselves as a separate nation is the very attitude that has helped to swell the numbers of voters who support the SNP. Thirdly.....and to answer the original question, the musical arrangement at Murrayfield is not new, and has been used for a number of years, personally, I like it (though not a huge fan of 'the flower',despite having met its writer)I think that the second verse sung unaccompanied shows a degree of togetherness and support for the team when sung in time and in tune, a feat that very few crowds ....especially the Twickenham one...can manage to do when singing their Anthem. My only bug bear is the fact that the majority sing 'to be A nation again......when Roy Williamson wrote the song the words are'to be THE!!!!!!! nation again......please try and get it right people......"

Well said..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think BOOGIE WONDERLAND should be our national anthem its sooooooooooo stirring

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think BOOGIE WONDERLAND should be our national anthem its sooooooooooo stirring "

How's about..London calling....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't stand Flower of Scotland.

Should be; Scotland The Brave

Highland Cathedral

Or

Cock of The North

Only way to listen to that dirge that's been unofficially adopted is to put in earplugs and block it out.

I'm 100% Scottish and as patriotic as the next man but Flower of Scotland is truly awful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God Save The Queen is an offensive dirge! Meladdio up there would see why Scotland and Wales dont sing it if he ridded himself of his english entitlement. Also given the make up of the six nations thats a lot of boring national anthem being sung!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Hen Wlad fy Nhadau, the Marseillaise and the Pigmy Army Song are all pretty good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am as patriotic as the next Scot but I am just not a fan of Flower of Scotland in any form. You will not catch me standing or singing God save the queen either.

I would like Scotland the brave but with new lyrics !!!

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

The Corries wrote new lyrics to Scotland the Brave. Not to everyone's taste. It's on YouTube.

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By *leasure domMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I wonder how many at that match singing Flower of Scotland actually voted against nationhood, but still had the nerve, hypocrisy and lack of shame to join in?

Let's hear it for those who made Scotland the only nation on earth to vote AGAINST self-determination.

Now, what was that song by the bard called again.....

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