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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

People who are obese & have weight problems could have disability and sickness benefits cut if they refuse treatment, David Cameron has said.

The PM has commissioned a re_iew of the system, which he says fails to encourage people with such conditions to get medical help.

About 100,000 people with long-term, treatable conditions claim Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), the Department of Work and Pensions says

Jeez, seems to me you cant even eat what you want now if claiming benefits

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe we should only allow them to govern us if they meet our needs

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

Might be the kick up the arse some people need

Medical conditions excluded of course

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

It's not the daftest idea in the world, BUT, how the hell is everyone going to get the expert help and treatment they require if we can't even get people through A&E in under 6 hours?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Might be the kick up the arse some people need

Medical conditions excluded of course "

Totally agree (Mr)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People who are obese & have weight problems could have disability and sickness benefits cut if they refuse treatment, David Cameron has said.

The PM has commissioned a re_iew of the system, which he says fails to encourage people with such conditions to get medical help.

About 100,000 people with long-term, treatable conditions claim Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), the Department of Work and Pensions says

Jeez, seems to me you cant even eat what you want now if claiming benefits"

The only people affected will be ones that 'refuse' help for their addiction. Im all for this if you want my opinion. Any money that can be saved from the welfare bill can only be a good thing.

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By *r and Mrs SnogalotCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

If i were a cynical person I may think that by making obesity a disability the door was opened for this action. As some have said before quite bliody right too. I have a weight problem, that does not mean I cannot hold down a full time job! The idea that you get benefits for being overweight (genuine medical conditions excluded) is ridiculous!

Mrs S

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By *illi37Woman
over a year ago

glasgow

How true.....i myself am responsible for my weight ...and like any reasonable person realise when it is time to have a cut down of the chocs n wine...or whatever your food vice is....i am certainly no paragon of virtue in this lol xx

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By *anarkshirelassCouple
over a year ago

lanarkshire

Lots of peeps have a variety of medical conditions imposed by their imposed diets but the problem is these same people have limited funds (benefits) to actually buy the good and healthy food they require.

I'd rather Cameron and his cronies kick the arse of the high ranking HMRC incompetents to pursue the high flyer tax evaders(20 years not paid a single penny in tax and lives in total luxury?) before he takes his penny pinching face saving strategies out on the weak.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I sort of get his angle but I'm much more concerned that the government now want to rule our bodies now.

Next we will be forced to have david Cameron haircuts *shivers in horror

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By *976scottMan
over a year ago

North Lanarkshire


"Might be the kick up the arse some people need

Medical conditions excluded of course

Totally agree (Mr) "

It shouldn't be a career choice not to work!

Think back to the reasons the welfare state was created! To help the vulnerable and sick who couldn't work! Not choose not to work!

As a tax payer I'm all for people who can being made to work! Too many fakes, fraudsters and lazy folk in this county!

Only my opinion! Free speech and all that!

My election campaign for a Greggs for every village may be harmed by this!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Might be the kick up the arse some people need

Medical conditions excluded of course "

Agree... if illness I totally sympathise... however these fattys u see munching a burger or when out for dinner with the biggest dessert in front of them is repulsive especially when they are obese already!

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By *r and Mrs SnogalotCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

I don't see it as them trying to rule our bodies. I see it as a means to solve a problem. Again genuine medical conditions aside - why should the state pay for someone who refuses to either help themselves or get help to tackle a weight issue.

I, as a tax payer should not have to pay for someone to sit in their house eating junk.

I don't think it is unaffordable to feed a family healthily on state benefits , it just does not stand up in my opinion. It means shopping smarter and it means cooking from scratch. Neither of these are difficult. And yes, I have had to feed my family on a very low budget and managed it.

Mrs S

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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago

near Glasgow


"I don't see it as them trying to rule our bodies. I see it as a means to solve a problem. Again genuine medical conditions aside - why should the state pay for someone who refuses to either help themselves or get help to tackle a weight issue.

I, as a tax payer should not have to pay for someone to sit in their house eating junk.

I don't think it is unaffordable to feed a family healthily on state benefits , it just does not stand up in my opinion. It means shopping smarter and it means cooking from scratch. Neither of these are difficult. And yes, I have had to feed my family on a very low budget and managed it.

Mrs S

"

Well said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work and just eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe if healthy food was cheaper people would find it easier to buy it i mean poorer people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work and just eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!! "

So you are saying I make the world ugly??

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By *r and Mrs SnogalotCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work and just eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!! "

There really is no need for these comments. Your comments make this post look ugly as much as your personality.

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By *976scottMan
over a year ago

North Lanarkshire


"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work and just eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!! "

# fud

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work and just eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!!

There really is no need for these comments. Your comments make this post look ugly as much as your personality. "

Just honest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work and just eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!!

# fud"

True thou!

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By *rebor601cplCouple
over a year ago

edinburgh

I suppose it gets people away from talking about tax dodgeing goverment corptate paymasters ,after all we have been through immigration ,benifit scroungers ,whats next people with ginger hair or green eyes ?

just pick on the fattys ,like they don't have feelings or any esteem issues

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By *owboy BebopMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

This is all just pre-election hot air. David Cameron just wants to be seen to be tough on benefits, because that plays well with some sections of his party !!!

All parties, will be making claims to be tough on this or that, and blame the other guy for the mess we're in .....it's so disheartening... Now labour talking tough on tax and businesses.......wish they'd bothered doing it when they were in power.....ah sorry that wasn't us that was the other labour guys says Ed Milliband !

As the mighty Chuck D says "don't believe the hype"....Rant over !!

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By *rebor601cplCouple
over a year ago

edinburgh


"This is all just pre-election hot air. David Cameron just wants to be seen to be tough on benefits, because that plays well with some sections of his party !!!

All parties, will be making claims to be tough on this or that, and blame the other guy for the mess we're in .....it's so disheartening... Now labour talking tough on tax and businesses.......wish they'd bothered doing it when they were in power.....ah sorry that wasn't us that was the other labour guys says Ed Milliband !

As the mighty Chuck D says "don't believe the hype"....Rant over !!

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By *anarkshirelassCouple
over a year ago

lanarkshire


"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work and just eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!!

# fud"

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"Maybe if healthy food was cheaper people would find it easier to buy it i mean poorer people "

Many health foods are cheap.

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By *ary_ArgyllMan
over a year ago

Argyll


"Maybe if healthy food was cheaper people would find it easier to buy it i mean poorer people

Many health foods are cheap."

Recent economics study showed that the relative cost of high energy processed foods (e.g. pizzas etc) had increased at a much lower rate than healthier options - fresh veg, fish, meat etc. Sorry but I am not that surprised that people on low incomes often struggle to have a balanced diet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe if healthy food was cheaper people would find it easier to buy it i mean poorer people

Many health foods are cheap.

Recent economics study showed that the relative cost of high energy processed foods (e.g. pizzas etc) had increased at a much lower rate than healthier options - fresh veg, fish, meat etc. Sorry but I am not that surprised that people on low incomes often struggle to have a balanced diet. "

Lazy and convenience fruit and veg is low cost and will make them healthier and less fat!

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By *ctionman72Man
over a year ago

south lanarkshire

I can't stop eating. I eat because I'm unhappy, and I'm unhappy because I eat. It's a vicious cycle.

Of course I'm not happy. Look at me, I'm a big fat slob. I've got bigger titties than you do. I've got more chins than a Chinese phonebook. I've not seen my willie in two years, which is long enough to declare it legally dead.

I want my baby back baby back baby back baby back baby back baby back ribs. Baby, Baby back ribs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"People who are obese & have weight problems could have disability and sickness benefits cut if they refuse treatment, David Cameron has said.

The PM has commissioned a re_iew of the system, which he says fails to encourage people with such conditions to get medical help.

About 100,000 people with long-term, treatable conditions claim Employment and Support Allowance (ESA), the Department of Work and Pensions says

Jeez, seems to me you cant even eat what you want now if claiming benefits

The only people affected will be ones that 'refuse' help for their addiction. Im all for this if you want my opinion. Any money that can be saved from the welfare bill can only be a good thing."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe if healthy food was cheaper people would find it easier to buy it i mean poorer people

Many health foods are cheap.

Recent economics study showed that the relative cost of high energy processed foods (e.g. pizzas etc) had increased at a much lower rate than healthier options - fresh veg, fish, meat etc. Sorry but I am not that surprised that people on low incomes often struggle to have a balanced diet.

Lazy and convenience fruit and veg is low cost and will make them healthier and less fat! "

Disgusting your comments I have a young son who has major life threatening illness. Not due to his weight as he is on lots of meds including steroids which his weight gain is not his fault !!! He doesn't take any more room than the next person! !!

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

None of this changes the fact that there simply isn't the facilities to treat every single person on benefit to make them well enough to work. So if you want the help but it's not available, do you still lose your benefits?

Sounds a lot like the bedroom tax - not enough smaller places for people to move to.

Yes there will always be those who don't WANT to get treatment but there are those who do but can't get it.

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By *976scottMan
over a year ago

North Lanarkshire


"Maybe if healthy food was cheaper people would find it easier to buy it i mean poorer people

Many health foods are cheap.

Recent economics study showed that the relative cost of high energy processed foods (e.g. pizzas etc) had increased at a much lower rate than healthier options - fresh veg, fish, meat etc. Sorry but I am not that surprised that people on low incomes often struggle to have a balanced diet.

Lazy and convenience fruit and veg is low cost and will make them healthier and less fat!

Disgusting your comments I have a young son who has major life threatening illness. Not due to his weight as he is on lots of meds including steroids which his weight gain is not his fault !!! He doesn't take any more room than the next person! !!"

This is exactly the reason the welfare system was introduced! Unfortunately people like your son who are genuine cases are discriminated against due to the amount of un genuine ( if that's a word) people who choose to claim benefit rather than work!

I would never grudge a genuine case getting benefit it's the others I have issue with!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can't stop eating. I eat because I'm unhappy, and I'm unhappy because I eat. It's a vicious cycle.

Of course I'm not happy. Look at me, I'm a big fat slob. I've got bigger titties than you do. I've got more chins than a Chinese phonebook. I've not seen my willie in two years, which is long enough to declare it legally dead.

I want my baby back baby back baby back baby back baby back baby back ribs. Baby, Baby back ribs.

"

If u fat I am on diet now!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not all fat people are unemployed ffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Might be the kick up the arse some people need

Medical conditions excluded of course "
totally agree

Too many play the I'm too fat to work card

Blah blah blah

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By *rebor601cplCouple
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Not all fat people are unemployed ffs"

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By *ockyjockyMan
over a year ago

G63 countryside

The one thing none of you have considered is what about the overweight person who may have worked and paid their taxes and National Insurance for over 30 years. NI is supposed to be an insurance policy to pay for periods of unemployment, should you be u lucky enough to be out of work, and your health service costs (although the government is trying to say that health costs are now nothing to do with NI).

So does the government now decide that while you must mandatorily pay NI and taxes, if you are overweight they will refuse to pay out because they don't like the fact you are overweight?

Seems to be that politicians consider they represent us when, in fact, they are there to serve us and should well remember this. Remember they have a copper-bottomed guaranteed pay out and pension if they lose an election and we pay for it. They never face the benefits system as a prospect. The last health survey of the House of Commons (Google it) shows that over 60% of MPs were deemed to be overweight and over 20% to be clinically obese, by medical measures. Should we withold their salaries until they lose weight? That might set an example and take a lead.

The cure to the obesity problem is to provide education and help to those that are struggling with their weight. The NHS weight loss programme actually has had very good results. Let's address the issue and stop persecuting individuals. Persuade rather than punish!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The one thing none of you have considered is what about the overweight person who may have worked and paid their taxes and National Insurance for over 30 years. NI is supposed to be an insurance policy to pay for periods of unemployment, should you be u lucky enough to be out of work, and your health service costs (although the government is trying to say that health costs are now nothing to do with NI).

So does the government now decide that while you must mandatorily pay NI and taxes, if you are overweight they will refuse to pay out because they don't like the fact you are overweight?

Seems to be that politicians consider they represent us when, in fact, they are there to serve us and should well remember this. Remember they have a copper-bottomed guaranteed pay out and pension if they lose an election and we pay for it. They never face the benefits system as a prospect. The last health survey of the House of Commons (Google it) shows that over 60% of MPs were deemed to be overweight and over 20% to be clinically obese, by medical measures. Should we withold their salaries until they lose weight? That might set an example and take a lead.

The cure to the obesity problem is to provide education and help to those that are struggling with their weight. The NHS weight loss programme actually has had very good results. Let's address the issue and stop persecuting individuals. Persuade rather than punish!"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work and just eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!!

There really is no need for these comments. Your comments make this post look ugly as much as your personality. "

actually, it made me laugh, although I did spill my coffee as it came through my nose; come on some of us have a sick sense of humour and it was actually, I think tongue in check humour

we need to lighten up

and at the end of the day who would you rather sit next to on a plane, a fatty or a skinny

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By *wiftieeMan
over a year ago

near Glasgow

I don't think anyone is criticising those who have a medical issue which causes their weight gain.

The people who are being criticised are those who sit on their fat backsides at home doing nothing and happily claiming benefits. There are plenty larger people working, earning, and paying their due taxes.

I don't want to go off at a tangent, but something which really annoys me are those claiming benefits because they can't get work, and spend their days sat at home or congregating with others like them. Ehhhh........there's a whole army of volunteers out there, but these wasters never think about joining them and contributing something to society. People might then look on them more sympathetically.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't think anyone is criticising those who have a medical issue which causes their weight gain.

The people who are being criticised are those who sit on their fat backsides at home doing nothing and happily claiming benefits. There are plenty larger people working, earning, and paying their due taxes.

I don't want to go off at a tangent, but something which really annoys me are those claiming benefits because they can't get work, and spend their days sat at home or congregating with others like them. Ehhhh........there's a whole army of volunteers out there, but these wasters never think about joining them and contributing something to society. People might then look on them more sympathetically."

sorry but its sociable to watch jk in a group...leave us alone n mind your own business!

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By *anarkshirelassCouple
over a year ago

lanarkshire


"Might be the kick up the arse some people need

Medical conditions excluded of course totally agree

Too many play the I'm too fat to work card

Blah blah blah "

So we can assume by your comment that you have the statistics to support that only fat people don't want to work??

That means, we can be safe in the knowledge that no skinny people play the too skinny to work card?

If your going to challenge people about them working or not you cant do it by their weight..ffs....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Iv never heard anyone use the excuse of being too skinny to work

I have on the other hand heard use the words I'm too big to work as iv got sore joints

Blah blah blah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gosh...if you end up with a disability or chronic illness better hope to hell you have a low bmi to go with it!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well what about people battling anorexia ??they could say that they can't work also but that is an illness.

Also people with depression maybe eat more hence why some weight gain!!

I've seen people off all sizes not willing to work because they can screw the benefits system.

I've worked from the age of 14 because I wanted too wanted nice things & my health allowed me,

Granted times I've been off due to my depression but I'd rather be in good health than not being able to give my all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you will find if you scroll up it says apart from illness

Being fat is not an illness it's an excuse

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By *horstrollMan
over a year ago

Caprona


"I think you will find if you scroll up it says apart from illness

Being fat is not an illness it's an excuse "

Is it really?

I do wonder how much genetics influences body shape?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think you will find if you scroll up it says apart from illness

Being fat is not an illness it's an excuse

Is it really?

I do wonder how much genetics influences body shape?

"

It can also be a symptom....but then ...that's probably just an excuse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have been diagnosed with an over active knife and fork.

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By *anarkshirelassCouple
over a year ago

lanarkshire

Find it horrifying of some peoples _iews on this subject matter

Sorry...benefits getting cut because your too fat...!!!!!!!

Whats next??....sorry getting benefit cuts because your too tall...your blond haired and you have blue eyes....!!!!

oopps sorry....silly me, I'm getting mixed up with another group of people in history who had the same mind think...if your not perfect and didn't comply you were worthless....and history tells us what happened there.

Start of the cleansing project.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is lazyness an illness too?

I'm not saying all large people don't work that's just silly

But a lot use their weight as an excuse

Plus the bigger you get... The more health issues your gonna have

Sorry but I'm not leaving my kids to go to work everyday to pay for folk that are too lazy to work and that goes for any size of person

The U.K. Obesity level is rising every yr and if the uk government is gonna stamp down on folk using their weight as an excuse for not working well I'm all for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's unfair starting a thread on obese people when they can't reply due to their chubby fingers and keyboards being stuck with food scraps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the companies that don't pay the correct corporation tax were made to do so the national debt would be cleared in two years. We don't hear this from Cameron or the right wing press! If the government closed the loopholes that are set up for the highest earners in our society or went after those who set up tax havens the country would be in the black instead of the red. But instead they target, once again, the poorest in society. Gee you'd think they're was an election looming! By the way osbournes father has his money in an offshore tax haven. Makes you wonder why they have never done anything about this. Yes there are some wasters that don't want to work and this is wrong but the money they cost is literally a drop in the ocean compared to the corruption at the top levels. Guess which one we hear about all the time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

typical Tories, attack the weak and give peerages to the real tax dodgers, sick little boys club, why would any normal person vote for them?

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By *anarkshirelassCouple
over a year ago

lanarkshire


"Is lazyness an illness too?

I'm not saying all large people don't work that's just silly

But a lot use their weight as an excuse

Plus the bigger you get... The more health issues your gonna have

Sorry but I'm not leaving my kids to go to work everyday to pay for folk that are too lazy to work and that goes for any size of person

The U.K. Obesity level is rising every yr and if the uk government is gonna stamp down on folk using their weight as an excuse for not working well I'm all for it "

Is laziness just a fat persons issue????

Not working because your lazy is totally different to saying ..we're cutting your benefits because your fat...

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"typical Tories, attack the weak and give peerages to the real tax dodgers, sick little boys club, why would any normal person vote for them?"

Any normal person wouldn't.

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By *andyman1963Man
over a year ago

Ayr

You really need to see through our goverments bull they are always picking on the poorest and trlling us to look at those filthy scroungers.

But it is reckond that the unpaid tax buy the wealthy is 100 times larger than the whole cost of the uk wellfare bill but its easier to punish the poorest and try and make it look like they are doing something positive. The real reason they dont close all the tax loop holes is that it suits them and not just tory but all the parties. They allways bleat on about how difficult it is but they quickly changed the law to stop the unemployed who where illegally sanctioned from getting their money back. The old saying holds true money talks and shit walks.

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

Don't know the facts about it but going from the OP is the government saying obese people will have to claim JSA rather than getting extra money on ESA? If that's the case I don't see how anyone can disagree with it.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Don't know the facts about it but going from the OP is the government saying obese people will have to claim JSA rather than getting extra money on ESA? If that's the case I don't see how anyone can disagree with it."

Since ATOS gave up the medical examinations, DWP has had to find a new way of reducing claimant numbers while throwing some raw meat to the far right who might otherwise vote UKIP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm also annoyed..my fat cat isnt getting any more benefits...she wont even get outta bed unless I give her dreamies

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By *r and Mrs SnogalotCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

People jumping on the band wagon and taking offence should read this post with an objective _iew. The majority are not saying that those with pre existing health conditions should be penalised. Neither are they saying that all fat (i hate this word) people don't contribute to society by maintaining a job.

What we are saying is that being overweight and choosing to do nothing about it is not good enough if you are claiming benefits because of your weight.

Mrs S

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

For further clarity, I did say excluding medical conditions that exclude someone from working.

As for the Nazi's comment, how disrespectful to the millions that fell foul to their agenda.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Again totally agree with _iew

And once again on the fab forum say anything about being overweight and everyone takes offence

Erm....

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over a year ago


"People jumping on the band wagon and taking offence should read this post with an objective _iew. The majority are not saying that those with pre existing health conditions should be penalised. Neither are they saying that all fat (i hate this word) people don't contribute to society by maintaining a job.

What we are saying is that being overweight and choosing to do nothing about it is not good enough if you are claiming benefits because of your weight.

Mrs S "

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"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work and just eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!! "

Your just lovely!!! Wish I could be ur fat best friend....

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over a year ago


"I have been diagnosed with an over active knife and fork. "

Well, u look good on it so keep up the knife and fork!

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over a year ago


"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work and just eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!!

Your just lovely!!! Wish I could be ur fat best friend...."

Lol... melon and then a run this morning...

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over a year ago


"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work andjust eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!!

Your just lovely!!! Wish I could be ur fat best friend....

Lol... melon and then a run this morning..."

Already been for a swim... you watch that melon doesn't choke you when out running.

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over a year ago


"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work andjust eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!!

Your just lovely!!! Wish I could be ur fat best friend....

Lol... melon and then a run this morning...

Already been for a swim... you watch that melon doesn't choke you when out running. "

Excellent, see at least this post has motivated people and made them look in the mirror and hopefully clear fridge of bacon, sausages etc... swimming is good for you love diving great feeling! ... have great day! ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Great post... once again if your not the perfect size 10 your written off.

Some of us fatties have worked from a young age paying taxes the same as the rest of the uk but you wouldnt really hear us moaning about the wee skinny guy still lying in bed because they cba working!!!

All this post has shown in my opinion the usually narrow minded folk on fab.

Agreed we need to reduce the welfare in this country, get the people who are able to work regardless of size back into work & have a better standard of living.

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"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work andjust eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!!

Your just lovely!!! Wish I could be ur fat best friend....

Lol... melon and then a run this morning...

Already been for a swim... you watch that melon doesn't choke you when out running.

Excellent, see at least this post has motivated people and made them look in the mirror and hopefully clear fridge of bacon, sausages etc... swimming is good for you love diving great feeling! ... have great day! ... "

Love swimming.... you should try diving into the swallow end of an empty pool hunni!!...

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"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work andjust eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!!

Your just lovely!!! Wish I could be ur fat best friend....

Lol... melon and then a run this morning...

Already been for a swim... you watch that melon doesn't choke you when out running.

Excellent, see at least this post has motivated people and made them look in the mirror and hopefully clear fridge of bacon, sausages etc... swimming is good for you love diving great feeling! ... have great day! ...

Love swimming.... you should try diving into the swallow end of an empty pool hunni!!... "

That's not very nice!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Don't know the facts about it but going from the OP is the government saying obese people will have to claim JSA rather than getting extra money on ESA? If that's the case I don't see how anyone can disagree with it."

you will find it on the BBC newspage, you have to go to the "UK" section and not the "Scotland" section

It says they intend to brand fatties the same as alcoholics and druggies at state:

There is currently no requirement for people with alcohol, drug or weight-related health problems to undertake treatment

Labour said the policy would do nothing to help people to get off benefits as fatties would find other ways

Mr Cameron has asked Prof Dame Carol Black, an adviser to the Department of Health, to look at whether it would be appropriate to withhold benefits from those who are unwilling to accept help

I see a lot of people here say fatties don't work but it hasn't stopped Homer Simpson from working.

but it can be a catch-22 situation, you get depressed because you are overweight, cant get a relationship due to it, so you eat to overcome your sadness and that in turn makes you more obese

Key facts

Worldwide obesity has more than doubled since 1980.

In 2014, more than 1.9 billion adults, 18 years and older, were overweight. Of these over 600 million were obese.

39% of adults aged 18 years and over were overweight in 2014, and 13% were obese.

Most of the world's population live in countries where overweight and obesity kills more people than underweight.

42 million children under the age of 5 were overweight or obese in 2013.

Obesity is preventable

hope this helps

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over a year ago


"Don't know the facts about it but going from the OP is the government saying obese people will have to claim JSA rather than getting extra money on ESA? If that's the case I don't see how anyone can disagree with it.

you will find it on the BBC newspage, you have to go to the "UK" section and not the "Scotland" section

It says they intend to brand fatties the same as alcoholics and druggies at state:

There is currently no requirement for people with alcohol, drug or weight-related health problems to undertake treatment

Labour said the policy would do nothing to help people to get off benefits as fatties would find other ways

Mr Cameron has asked Prof Dame Carol Black, an adviser to the Department of Health, to look at whether it would be appropriate to withhold benefits from those who are unwilling to accept help

I see a lot of people here say fatties don't work but it hasn't stopped Homer Simpson from working.

but it can be a catch-22 situation, you get depressed because you are overweight, cant get a relationship due to it, so you eat to overcome your sadness and that in turn makes you more obese

Key facts

Worldwide obesity has more than doubled since 1980.

In 2014, more than 1.9 billion adults, 18 years and older, were overweight. Of these over 600 million were obese.

39% of adults aged 18 years and over were overweight in 2014, and 13% were obese.

Most of the world's population live in countries where overweight and obesity kills more people than underweight.

42 million children under the age of 5 were overweight or obese in 2013.

Obesity is preventable

hope this helps"

I hope it helps too, as many who are fatties, take offence to the truth and all we are trying to do is help them and save the environment.

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over a year ago

Here are the Facts;

What causes obesity and overweight?

The fundamental cause of obesity and overweight is an energy imbalance between calories consumed and calories expended. Globally, there has been:

an increased intake of energy-dense foods that are high in fat; and

an increase in physical inactivity due to the increasingly sedentary nature of many forms of work, changing modes of transportation, and increasing urbanization.

Changes in dietary and physical activity patterns are often the result of environmental and societal changes associated with development and lack of supportive policies in sectors such as health, agriculture, transport, urban planning, environment, food processing, distribution, marketing and education.

What are common health consequences of overweight and obesity?

Raised BMI is a major risk factor for noncommunicable diseases such as:

cardiovascular diseases (mainly heart disease and stroke), which were the leading cause of death in 2012;

diabetes;

musculoskeletal disorders (especially osteoarthritis - a highly disabling degenerative disease of the joints);

some cancers (endometrial, breast, and colon).

The risk for these noncommunicable diseases increases, with an increase in BMI.

Childhood obesity is associated with a higher chance of obesity, premature death and disability in adulthood. But in addition to increased future risks, obese children experience breathing difficulties, increased risk of fractures, hypertension, early markers of cardiovascular disease, insulin resistance and psychological effects.

Facing a double burden of disease

Many low- and middle-income countries are now facing a "double burden" of disease.

While they continue to deal with the problems of infectious disease and under-nutrition, they are experiencing a rapid upsurge in noncommunicable disease risk factors such as obesity and overweight, particularly in urban settings.

It is not uncommon to find under-nutrition and obesity existing side-by-side within the same country, the same community and the same household.

Children in low- and middle-income countries are more vulnerable to inadequate pre-natal, infant and young child nutrition. At the same time, they are exposed to high-fat, high-sugar, high-salt, energy-dense, micronutrient-poor foods, which tend to be lower in cost but also lower in nutrient quality. These dietary patterns in conjunction with lower levels of physical activity, result in sharp increases in childhood obesity while undernutrition issues remain unsolved.

How can overweight and obesity be reduced?

Overweight and obesity, as well as their related noncommunicable diseases, are largely preventable. Supportive environments and communities are fundamental in shaping people’s choices, making the healthier choice of foods and regular physical activity the easiest choice (accessible, available and affordable), and therefore preventing obesity.

At the individual level, people can:

limit energy intake from total fats and sugars;

increase consumption of fruit and vegetables, as well as legumes, whole grains and nuts;

engage in regular physical activity (60 minutes a day for children and 150 minutes per week for adults).

Individual responsibility can only have its full effect where people have access to a healthy lifestyle. Therefore, at the societal level it is important to:

support individuals in following the recommendations above, through sustained political commitment and the collaboration of many public and private stakeholders;

make regular physical activity and healthier dietary choices available, affordable and easily accessible to all - especially the poorest individuals.

The food industry can play a significant role in promoting healthy diets by:

reducing the fat, sugar and salt content of processed foods;

ensuring that healthy and nutritious choices are available and affordable to all consumers;

practicing responsible marketing especially those aimed at children and teenagers;

ensuring the availability of healthy food choices and supporting regular physical activity practice in the workplace.

WHO response

Adopted by the World Health Assembly in 2004, the WHO Global Strategy on Diet, Physical Activity and Health describes the actions needed to support healthy diets and regular physical activity. The Strategy calls upon all stakeholders to take action at global, regional and local levels to improve diets and physical activity patterns at the population level.

The Political Declaration of the High Level Meeting of the United Nations General Assembly on the Prevention and Control of Noncommunicable Diseases of September 2011, recognizes the critical importance of reducing unhealthy diet and physical inactivity. The political declaration commits to advance the implementation of the WHO Global Strategy on Diet, Physical Activity and Health, including, where appropriate, through the introduction of policies and actions aimed at promoting healthy diets and increasing physical activity in the entire population

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over a year ago


"

Love swimming.... you should try diving into the swallow end of an empty pool hunni!!... "

These type of comments do nothing for threads, please try and keep your replies as constructive comments and not the replies you would expect from a child

we all need to be grown up and find a way to assist people with illness, handicaps and disabilities, Westminster has decided to cut benefits for fatties, okay you may now regret voting NO but you have to live with the facts that you did, the same as the YES voters also have to accept (for the mean time), even if that does cause problems such as bedroom tax, no payments for fatties etc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To me its just another excuse to pick on vulnerable people in our society has there even been a more hated prime minister than David Cameron and his draconian ways.

Meanwhile if your rich and have falied to pay tax..........

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fantastic, well put together and not anyone on this planet can argue with your facts, unless they are in denial and are tucking into full Scottish breakfast 'oh no tomatoes please, they are grilled and don't agree with me... so can I have a extra sausage please'?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"typical Tories, attack the weak and give peerages to the real tax dodgers, sick little boys club, why would any normal person vote for them?

Any normal person wouldn't."

I am and I pride myself on not being normal on here.

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over a year ago


"

Love swimming.... you should try diving into the swallow end of an empty pool hunni!!...

These type of comments do nothing for threads, please try and keep your replies as constructive comments and not the replies you would expect from a child

we all need to be grown up and find a way to assist people with illness, handicaps and disabilities, Westminster has decided to cut benefits for fatties, okay you may now regret voting NO but you have to live with the facts that you did, the same as the YES voters also have to accept (for the mean time), even if that does cause problems such as bedroom tax, no payments for fatties etc "

I agree, imagine telling someone jump into shallow end, awful and all we are doing is giving helpful advise... I would never respond and say well you jump into shallow end Miss D and you will bounce back out and hit the roof and cause more damage to the planet than you already are'... because that would be rude and unkind, not my nature... stick to the facts!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Love swimming.... you should try diving into the swallow end of an empty pool hunni!!...

These type of comments do nothing for threads, please try and keep your replies as constructive comments and not the replies you would expect from a child

we all need to be grown up and find a way to assist people with illness, handicaps and disabilities, Westminster has decided to cut benefits for fatties, okay you may now regret voting NO but you have to live with the facts that you did, the same as the YES voters also have to accept (for the mean time), even if that does cause problems such as bedroom tax, no payments for fatties etc "

Aye no bother lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Love swimming.... you should try diving into the swallow end of an empty pool hunni!!...

These type of comments do nothing for threads, please try and keep your replies as constructive comments and not the replies you would expect from a child

we all need to be grown up and find a way to assist people with illness, handicaps and disabilities, Westminster has decided to cut benefits for fatties, okay you may now regret voting NO but you have to live with the facts that you did, the same as the YES voters also have to accept (for the mean time), even if that does cause problems such as bedroom tax, no payments for fatties etc

I agree, imagine telling someone jump into shallow end, awful and all we are doing is giving helpful advise... I would never respond and say well you jump into shallow end Miss D and you will bounce back out and hit the roof and cause more damage to the planet than you already are'... because that would be rude and unkind, not my nature... stick to the facts! "

Im not Miss D... aww im sorry I hurt your feelings... if I promise I'll go on a diet can we be best friends?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Love swimming.... you should try diving into the swallow end of an empty pool hunni!!...

These type of comments do nothing for threads, please try and keep your replies as constructive comments and not the replies you would expect from a child

we all need to be grown up and find a way to assist people with illness, handicaps and disabilities, Westminster has decided to cut benefits for fatties, okay you may now regret voting NO but you have to live with the facts that you did, the same as the YES voters also have to accept (for the mean time), even if that does cause problems such as bedroom tax, no payments for fatties etc

I agree, imagine telling someone jump into shallow end, awful and all we are doing is giving helpful advise... I would never respond and say well you jump into shallow end Miss D and you will bounce back out and hit the roof and cause more damage to the planet than you already are'... because that would be rude and unkind, not my nature... stick to the facts!

Im not Miss D... aww im sorry I hurt your feelings... if I promise I'll go on a diet can we be best friends?! "

Oh babe, I didn't mean to put in Miss D, meant Miss B (for big) no offence taken and no feelings hurt... I am a big boy (not fat thou) so I can take it! ... the facts that are posted I do hope are helpful as there is little point in being ill through binge eating and carrying such weight around when there is no need. I hope you have a happy, healthy and fun day. Gav xxxx

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over a year ago


"

Love swimming.... you should try diving into the swallow end of an empty pool hunni!!...

These type of comments do nothing for threads, please try and keep your replies as constructive comments and not the replies you would expect from a child

we all need to be grown up and find a way to assist people with illness, handicaps and disabilities, Westminster has decided to cut benefits for fatties, okay you may now regret voting NO but you have to live with the facts that you did, the same as the YES voters also have to accept (for the mean time), even if that does cause problems such as bedroom tax, no payments for fatties etc

I agree, imagine telling someone jump into shallow end, awful and all we are doing is giving helpful advise... I would never respond and say well you jump into shallow end Miss D and you will bounce back out and hit the roof and cause more damage to the planet than you already are'... because that would be rude and unkind, not my nature... stick to the facts!

Im not Miss D... aww im sorry I hurt your feelings... if I promise I'll go on a diet can we be best friends?!

Oh babe, I didn't mean to put in Miss D, meant Miss B (for big) no offence taken and no feelings hurt... I am a big boy (not fat thou) so I can take it! ... the facts that are posted I do hope are helpful as there is little point in being ill through binge eating and carrying such weight around when there is no need. I hope you have a happy, healthy and fun day. Gav xxxx "

Aww thanks, might actually change my name to this!! Ur just a star. I'll hang my head in shame after my nasty comment... all advice taken on from you & I will act on it straight away. Your amazing.... just the best... luv from your biggest forum fan xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

"Since ATOS gave up the medical examinations"

someone said ATOS gave up medical examinations. they never gave up, they were sacked for being incompetent

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over a year ago


"

Love swimming.... you should try diving into the swallow end of an empty pool hunni!!...

These type of comments do nothing for threads, please try and keep your replies as constructive comments and not the replies you would expect from a child

we all need to be grown up and find a way to assist people with illness, handicaps and disabilities, Westminster has decided to cut benefits for fatties, okay you may now regret voting NO but you have to live with the facts that you did, the same as the YES voters also have to accept (for the mean time), even if that does cause problems such as bedroom tax, no payments for fatties etc

I agree, imagine telling someone jump into shallow end, awful and all we are doing is giving helpful advise... I would never respond and say well you jump into shallow end Miss D and you will bounce back out and hit the roof and cause more damage to the planet than you already are'... because that would be rude and unkind, not my nature... stick to the facts!

Im not Miss D... aww im sorry I hurt your feelings... if I promise I'll go on a diet can we be best friends?!

Oh babe, I didn't mean to put in Miss D, meant Miss B (for big) no offence taken and no feelings hurt... I am a big boy (not fat thou) so I can take it! ... the facts that are posted I do hope are helpful as there is little point in being ill through binge eating and carrying such weight around when there is no need. I hope you have a happy, healthy and fun day. Gav xxxx

Aww thanks, might actually change my name to this!! Ur just a star. I'll hang my head in shame after my nasty comment... all advice taken on from you & I will act on it straight away. Your amazing.... just the best... luv from your biggest forum fan xxx "

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By *ifes journeyCouple
over a year ago

scotland

I think a lot of people have gone all Daily Mail on this thread and looked at the attention grabbing headline comments and not the full facts.

"People who cannot work because they are obese or have alcohol or drug problems could have their sickness benefits cut if they refuse treatment, the PM says.

David Cameron has launched a re_iew of the current system, which he says fails to encourage people with long-term, treatable issues to get medical help."

"Mr Cameron has asked Prof Dame Carol Black, an adviser to the Department of Health, to look at whether it would be appropriate to withhold benefits from those who are unwilling to accept help.

Announcing the proposal, he said: "Some [people] have drug or alcohol problems, but refuse treatment.

"In other cases people have problems with their weight that could be addressed - but instead a life on benefits rather than work becomes the choice.

"It is not fair to ask hardworking taxpayers to fund the benefits of people who refuse to accept the support and treatment that could help them get back to a life of work."

His plans don't just affect those with weight issues, he wants to also try and help those with addiction problems such as drugs and alcohol. Why should I pay the benefits of someone who can't work or can't get work because they are either too pissed or high?

But there are also some in this country, that can't or won't work who say they are too fat to work.

Can someone point me in the direction of where the PM has said that all fatter people, or over a size 10 or those with medical conditions will get their benefits cut?

No, thought not.

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Hopefully this will deter people from getting to the stage where they are medically unfit for work ,nobody is dictating what you can and can't eat but common why should the tax payer be held responsible for someone's greed and binge eating , much happier way of life if they would just change there habits and choose life over food

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over a year ago


"Can someone point me in the direction of where the PM has said that all fatter people, or over a size 10 or those with medical conditions will get their benefits cut?

No, thought not.

"

glad to see someone else has actually taken time to read some of the news reports, and fact is; its nothing new, they have been trying this with alcoholics and druggies for years and got no where

adding fatties to the list is just to show they are being seen to be taking action

but on the same point; employers are going to be very careful when inter_iewing and recruiting due to the fact that fatties are now classed as disabled and have the rights of disabled, which also means employers have to ensure the work place is suited for them with larger, re-enforced chairs etc, its a difficult situation all round.

one last point, should I be saying fatty or clinically obese? what's the correct term?

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"

Can someone point me in the direction of where the PM has said that all fatter people, or over a size 10 or those with medical conditions will get their benefits cut?

No, thought not.

"

What and not be outraged. No, it's better being hard done by.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I get the point...I truly do...and agree with it. What I don't understand is why certain posters are taking a great deal of pleasure in being deliberately rude and insulting in their choice of language.

It diminishes their argument....

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"Hopefully this will deter people from getting to the stage where they are medically unfit for work ,nobody is dictating what you can and can't eat but common why should the tax payer be held responsible for someone's greed and binge eating , much happier way of life if they would just change there habits and choose life over food "

Are you David Cameron

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"

Love swimming.... you should try diving into the swallow end of an empty pool hunni!!...

These type of comments do nothing for threads, please try and keep your replies as constructive comments and not the replies you would expect from a child

we all need to be grown up and find a way to assist people with illness, handicaps and disabilities, Westminster has decided to cut benefits for fatties, okay you may now regret voting NO but you have to live with the facts that you did, the same as the YES voters also have to accept (for the mean time), even if that does cause problems such as bedroom tax, no payments for fatties etc

I agree, imagine telling someone jump into shallow end, awful and all we are doing is giving helpful advise... I would never respond and say well you jump into shallow end Miss D and you will bounce back out and hit the roof and cause more damage to the planet than you already are'... because that would be rude and unkind, not my nature... stick to the facts!

Im not Miss D... aww im sorry I hurt your feelings... if I promise I'll go on a diet can we be best friends?!

Oh babe, I didn't mean to put in Miss D, meant Miss B (for big) no offence taken and no feelings hurt... I am a big boy (not fat thou) so I can take it! ... the facts that are posted I do hope are helpful as there is little point in being ill through binge eating and carrying such weight around when there is no need. I hope you have a happy, healthy and fun day. Gav xxxx

Aww thanks, might actually change my name to this!! Ur just a star. I'll hang my head in shame after my nasty comment... all advice taken on from you & I will act on it straight away. Your amazing.... just the best... luv from your biggest forum fan xxx

Oh cheers babe, and so pleased you taken advise you will feel so much better for it... no oggfence taken as I am a big boy, not fat thou lol... u have a healthy and happy day and always eat ur greens and lots of protein... ! xxx

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over a year ago


"I get the point...I truly do...and agree with it. What I don't understand is why certain posters are taking a great deal of pleasure in being deliberately rude and insulting in their choice of language.

It diminishes their argument.... "

Totally agree, but least message is getting through and people will hopefully get healthier rather than just adding fat onto more fat!

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over a year ago


"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work and just eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!!

# fud "

so you must be one hot sexi fucker then ?????

with an attitude that stinks as bad as those big poo's you talk about ....

i doubt for a minute you are ...

some cant help way they are or what they eat ... maybe its you an folk like you that make them feel so small and no self worth that keeps them eatin....

just a little thought when your slagging those who arent like you to think about

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By *ifes journeyCouple
over a year ago

scotland


"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work and just eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!!

# fud

so you must be one hot sexi fucker then ?????

with an attitude that stinks as bad as those big poo's you talk about ....

i doubt for a minute you are ...

some cant help way they are or what they eat ... maybe its you an folk like you that make them feel so small and no self worth that keeps them eatin....

just a little thought when your slagging those who arent like you to think about

"

I think his post was tongue in cheek tbh.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

"I think his post was tongue in cheek tbh."

yes I picked up on this earlier and made same comment that I thought he had black humour, I did laugh when I read it, as previously mentioned

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just another ruse for the Government to try and claw back more money, albeit a pittance compared to some of the money the fat cat tax dodger evade paying through so called 'legal' measures.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a fact, fattys (excluding illness) take up more air space, fart louder and more than others, so destroy fresh air... give more rubbish to landfill, pollute and block sewage with larger than normal poo, smell and just make the whole world look ugly and inviting... many too fat to work and just eat them selves to be comfortable; what about people who have to live and deal with them on a daily basis!!

# fud

so you must be one hot sexi fucker then ?????

with an attitude that stinks as bad as those big poo's you talk about ....

i doubt for a minute you are ...

some cant help way they are or what they eat ... maybe its you an folk like you that make them feel so small and no self worth that keeps them eatin....

just a little thought when your slagging those who arent like you to think about

"

This doesn't make sense really how can what I say make fat people feel small... all I am saying is read the facts and think before you shove a burger in your mouth...

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

If this thread shows nothing else, it shows the Tories still know how to turn people against each other.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"If this thread shows nothing else, it shows the Tories still know how to turn people against each other."

you don't need the Tories for that

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"If this thread shows nothing else, it shows the Tories still know how to turn people against each other.

you don't need the Tories for that "

They're not obligatory but they sure know how to stoke the fires.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 16/02/15 06:22:24]

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

06:19

16/02/2015

Time for Breakfast; after reading this, I am going for the healthy option of porridge then some fruit

strange we don't have an edit button for altering spelling

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By *akedninjaMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

Health is wealth I always say but ot would appear that ill health is wealth in this country with the benefits system somewhat encouraging drug and alcohol addiction aswell as bad lifestyle and diet choices which to me seems absolutely insane but then again the whole premise of politics with its mafia tactics is to creAte or add to an already existing problem then promise to fix it to no avail whilst filling the politicians pockets with zillions for their 2nd and 3rd and 4th homes and their limo driven trips to Greggs to stock up on sausage rolls and custard filled fudge doughnuts and steak bakes all at the general publics expense whilst having the audacity to criticise obese people for the problems of society whilst 9 out of 10

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By *akedninjaMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

....whilst 9 out of 10 politicians have an ever expanding waistline and bank account

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

did you hear the debate on Jeremy vine today regarding the same issue

I am sure I also heard that they are considering charging fat people if they arrive at casualty as well, same as they are considering charging d*unks who arrive, I guess it makes sense if they turn up in casualty with a heart attack or other weight illnesses

but then how much should they be charged? guess that's the next debate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is an attempt by OP to get you vote snp, it is really look at the dreadfull tories are up to now post. Every election has politicions making fecking stupid comments and promises, it is just not practical.

On the other hand I have to be in a certain weight range and to be in good health or I cannot continue in my employment. So to continue working I look after myself and my employer pays me. So why should my tax money go to someone that does not make any effort to keep themselves employable if they have a treatable condition.

As a socity we should always look after and care for those who cannot do that for themselves but those who can look after themselves should not be parked on benefits denying the needy a greater part of our national insurance payments.

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By *nnyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"did you hear the debate on Jeremy vine today regarding the same issue

I am sure I also heard that they are considering charging fat people if they arrive at casualty as well, same as they are considering charging d*unks who arrive, I guess it makes sense if they turn up in casualty with a heart attack or other weight illnesses

but then how much should they be charged? guess that's the next debate "

I dunno which is worse. The people who make up this nonsense or the people who believe it.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn


"did you hear the debate on Jeremy vine today regarding the same issue

I am sure I also heard that they are considering charging fat people if they arrive at casualty as well, same as they are considering charging d*unks who arrive, I guess it makes sense if they turn up in casualty with a heart attack or other weight illnesses

but then how much should they be charged? guess that's the next debate

I dunno which is worse. The people who make up this nonsense or the people who believe it."

This thread is a party political broadcast on behalf of the: guess what party and don't mention the word No

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This is an attempt by OP to get you vote snp, it is really look at the dreadfull tories are up to now post. Every election has politicions making fecking stupid comments and promises, it is just not practical.

On the other hand I have to be in a certain weight range and to be in good health or I cannot continue in my employment. So to continue working I look after myself and my employer pays me. So why should my tax money go to someone that does not make any effort to keep themselves employable if they have a treatable condition.

As a socity we should always look after and care for those who cannot do that for themselves but those who can look after themselves should not be parked on benefits denying the needy a greater part of our national insurance payments."

How incredibly stupid, thick, ignorant (you can add your own descriptions) to say this thread is an attempt to get people to vote SNP! Ha ha some people are so blinded by their own prejudices. The TORIES are the one's proposing this! The same TORIES that brought in the bedroom tax! The same TORIES that employed billionaire Paul Bloomfield who avoided paying any tax for 24 years. To attack a tiny minority of people on benefits who have weight problems while ripping the country off for billions in tax dodges is genius, and it's interesting to see how many of you have fallen for it. In fact how many of you are jumping on the bandwagon with GLEE! God forbid if something happens if you lose your job or have an accident that causes you to put on weight, or suffer depression that leads to an eating disorder. Personally I don't suffer from any of those but my hearts go out to those that do and not to those who use them as scape goats while their greed fucks up the economy.., guess you can fool all the people some of the time!

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