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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Sorry for the non sexual post but can't quite believe what im seeing on the news this morning. Once more the world is a very scary place. Thoughts go out to all involved.

I wish there was an end in sight yet that could have so easily been Edinburgh or Glasgow. It's so sad and very frightening.

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By *abled_raptureCouple
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Been up most of the night and keeping an eye on it, completely messed up.

The picture of the hostages holding up the flag is pretty haunting.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I don't understand why. If these people are so against democracy and westeners why cone here to live. Take benefits and be free? They bite the hand that feeds them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wtf , is going on In the world....

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow

Horrible at any time of year but especially near Christmas thought are with the hostages and their families .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Watched the ending to the siege.

A solo mentally unstable character takes over a coffee shop is not necessary a terrorist, just a playground bully

The fact he is Islamic is neither here nor there

A world wide media gag should be placed cutting out their 15 mins of infamy. This cry for fame is a publicity stunt by one deranged individual

As usual the Australian authorities fucked it up almost as bad as the Americans would have

Lob in a handful of stun grenades and then mob handed, within zero visibility about 8 soldiers storm a door blasting away killing anything in their way is totally OTT and the wrong way to handle the situation

A SWAT sniper had a clear view if him on several occasions and could have so easily have taken him out hours before hand without loss of any innocent lives

Like I said earlier deny them publicity and we won't have to suffer world wide media carpet coverage.

Other more important news coverage today.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like an SAS job!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

sorry Rok but the fact he is Islamic is important.

All islamists are not terrorists but all terrorists are Islamic. Time for the world to stand up and be counted and get rid of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not all terrorists are Muslim. Where the IRA muslim? Their are even Buddhist terrorists beheading people in northern Thailand right now. Thats just a stupid ignorant thing to say, sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately people like the hostage taker have no respect for life be it man woman child or any living thing.

There is another one today in Pakistan.

141 killed 131 of them were children shot by Taliban assins.

The world is a sad place but what do?

Lie down to the bastards or walk with our heads hell high as we have self respect unlike those pieces of shite !

Only my view hey the way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The footage they were showing of the guy ranting about Australian soldiers make it clear he wasnt the full shilling. It didnt follow the usual extremist rhetoric, it was the ramble of a madman. The fact he was Islamic was a side issue. Guy was a nutcase, end of.

The stuff in Pakistan is an entirely different thing. That was a politically motivated deathsquad sent to send a brutal message to those who support the fight againt the Taliban.

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By *onitoMan
over a year ago

Milton of Campsie


"Watched the ending to the siege.

A solo mentally unstable character takes over a coffee shop is not necessary a terrorist, just a playground bully

The fact he is Islamic is neither here nor there

A world wide media gag should be placed cutting out their 15 mins of infamy. This cry for fame is a publicity stunt by one deranged individual

As usual the Australian authorities fucked it up almost as bad as the Americans would have

Lob in a handful of stun grenades and then mob handed, within zero visibility about 8 soldiers storm a door blasting away killing anything in their way is totally OTT and the wrong way to handle the situation

A SWAT sniper had a clear view if him on several occasions and could have so easily have taken him out hours before hand without loss of any innocent lives

Like I said earlier deny them publicity and we won't have to suffer world wide media carpet coverage.

Other more important news coverage today.

"

What do you mean did the Australian authorities fucked it up as usual?

How would you have handled it and gone in?

With the daily threats worldwide these days an armed Islamic man holding hostages at gunpoint not worthy of media carpet coverage?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like I stated above

Lob in a handful of stun grenades, creating smoke that zeros visibility then storm the place mob handed was a recipe for disaster.

These guys went in gung-ho tripping over each other and all barrels blazing

like a feckin Stallone B movie.

There is protocol for dealing with this kind of operation and that certainly wasn't it. They were lucky no more innocent people were killed in the melee.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"sorry Rok but the fact he is Islamic is important.

All islamists are not terrorists but all terrorists are Islamic. Time for the world to stand up and be counted and get rid of them."

What a crock of shit.

How many radical Christian organisations are there abducting and killing people because they don't conform to their beliefs

The IRA, ETA, Tamil Guerillas, etc are all extreme radical organisations labelled terrorists.

To take world wide terrorism and brand them all as Muslims is not only racist/offensive but an insult to millions if innocent Islamic people across the Globe

PS I am a practicing Buddhist and yes there is even a faction of our Sangha killing others in Thailand

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jeeso the utter drivel you see in these forums is ridiculous , I wonder sometimes if folk on here are actually the full shilling ! ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Like I stated above

Lob in a handful of stun grenades, creating smoke that zeros visibility then storm the place mob handed was a recipe for disaster.

These guys went in gung-ho tripping over each other and all barrels blazing

like a feckin Stallone B movie.

There is protocol for dealing with this kind of operation and that certainly wasn't it. They were lucky no more innocent people were killed in the melee. "

Sounds like the dogs dinner the sas made of the London Iranian embassy siege of yesteryear; stun granades, all guns blazing & dead & injured hostages ............& it took them nearly a week!!!

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By *onitoMan
over a year ago

Milton of Campsie


"Like I stated above

Lob in a handful of stun grenades, creating smoke that zeros visibility then storm the place mob handed was a recipe for disaster.

These guys went in gung-ho tripping over each other and all barrels blazing

like a feckin Stallone B movie.

There is protocol for dealing with this kind of operation and that certainly wasn't it. They were lucky no more innocent people were killed in the melee. "

What is the correct protocol? Should the Authorities have contacted you for your expert advice while watching everything unfold on tv in Scotland?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The SAS did not make a dogs dinner of that siege

The Metropolitan Police negotiated with 6 terrorists not 1 lone madman for 5 days making a complete balls up of the operation especially by allowing the media to turn it in to a circus.

When negotiations broke down and the gunmen killed one of the 26 hostages. The Police held up their hands as orders from above sent in the SAS.

The operation lasted 17 minutes with 5 of the 6 gunmen killed and the remaining one arrested where he served 27 years in prison.

Unfortunately one other hostage was killed during the raid.

This was a totally different ball game to what happened in Sydney

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By *r and Mrs SnogalotCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

I haven't seen the footage - as I dont believe they should be given the airspace. The media coverage is giving these terrorist groups the platform to do exactly what they seek to. Create terror, fear and therefore impact on normal day to day activities.

How many thought twice before going shopping in NI during the troubles, after 9/11 what was the impact on air travel?

These people are extremists and should be treated with the contempt that they deserve. They do not deserve to be treated with humanity.

Shy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree

Hence what I said about carpet

Media coverage giving them their 15 mins of infamy

Deal with it and keep it out of the media. It only creates a circus and feeds their notoriety.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I must upgrade to Fab platinum membership, - that way I could actually see what happened inside that coffee shop in Sydney like some people on here, rather than the few angles from the outside that I saw on tv!!

Do you need references, - anybody know?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *onitoMan
over a year ago

Milton of Campsie


"I must upgrade to Fab platinum membership, - that way I could actually see what happened inside that coffee shop in Sydney like some people on here, rather than the few angles from the outside that I saw on tv!!

Do you need references, - anybody know? "

Am I correct in saying there were 3 doors to enter but on the news feed you only got to see 1 door entered by the armed police?

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By *onitoMan
over a year ago

Milton of Campsie

Still waiting for the correct protocol to be explained.

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