FabSwingers.com forum: Straight guys that meet TVs

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Right

Iv wondered this for yrs and now I want to know lol

What is a straight guy looking for when he meets a TV?

Is it he wants to have sex with a guy but trying to kid himself on it's really a chick?

What about 2 bi/gay TVs are they attracted to females but want sex with men?

I'm genuinely interested?

Auds x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

TVs are not the same as a man (or not to my mind).

It's a sexual kink for some people - I can totally understand why guys seek TVs but not men. Sex is much more than the function or the act. It's mental and about what gets you going - and for some that is a TV

As for the labels we are forced to select on here (straight / bi) I hate how pigeon holing they are

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Nope sorry

That dosnt clear it up for me? Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If a guy in stockings and a g string turns you on why wouldn't you want to have sex with them?

But it doesn't mean you want to have sex with a man - it's about having sex with that fantasy. And for some that will be the definition that has them select straight - because they don't want to send a confusing message to men

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

But

No matter if it's stockings or whatever it's still a man

Are straight guys that go for TVs

Fantasy guys or girls??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"TVs are not the same as a man (or not to my mind).

As for the labels we are forced to select on here (straight / bi) I hate how pigeon holing they are "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But it's a man dressed as a woman OR if it's a TS it's a woman just with male anatomy.

Sex (for me) isn't not just about the body parts. It's the fantasy, the kink, the erotic build up, the person.

If a man isn't attracted to another man but is aroused by a TV or TS and wants to identify as straight as they see a difference I support that prerogative

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I can see a man being attracted to a hot TV... Of course

But at the end of the day when they get down n dirty there bits where bits shouldn't be?

So he's gonna know it's still a man? Sorry I don't get the whole it's the fantasy yeah but if it gets to be reality your still having sex with a man?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I can see a man being attracted to a hot TV... Of course

But at the end of the day when they get down n dirty there bits where bits shouldn't be?

So he's gonna know it's still a man? Sorry I don't get the whole it's the fantasy yeah but if it gets to be reality your still having sex with a man?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

And more power to you mrs

But was really wondering why straight men meet TVs?

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"I can see a man being attracted to a hot TV... Of course

But at the end of the day when they get down n dirty there bits where bits shouldn't be?

So he's gonna know it's still a man? Sorry I don't get the whole it's the fantasy yeah but if it gets to be reality your still having sex with a man?

As I said - for me- it's down to if you _iew sex as a purely functional act that focuses on the biology. That's not how I _iew it ... 80% mental for me. Best sex I've had is with people I connect with, the biology and technical aspects are down the list "
im with auds here to my mind if you have sex with a man irrespective of whether they wear a dress or not you simply cannot be straight call it what you wish but on here the closest option is bi sexual az straight surely means you only play with the opposite sex

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm not wanting to put labels on it

But would love to hear from some guys straight bi or gay that have met TVs and hear their thoughts ?

In their mind are they thinking about sex with woman but are wanting gay sex?

Or are they gay but wondering about sex with a female?

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By *rsFine-MrBallsCouple
over a year ago

markinch

Are there female tranvestites

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

"I can see a man being attracted to a hot TV... Of course

But at the end of the day when they get down n dirty there bits where bits shouldn't be?

So he's gonna know it's still a man? Sorry I don't get the whole it's the fantasy yeah but if it gets to be reality your still having sex with a man?

in my mind guys who have sex with tvs and claim to be straight are in denial ...no ifs no buts and no maybees...guy having sex with another guy no matter what hes wearing is not straight

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By *ee-YinWoman
over a year ago

nr bathgate

"But

No matter if it's stockings or whatever it's still a man

Are straight guys that go for TVs

Fantasy guys or girls??

This confuses me too......

Surely a guy that meets and has sexual encounters with a tv makes said man bi!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Wheres a TV lover when you need 1 ?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

well I ain't straight but I have met a very nice TV and I was completely like a rabbit in headlights, It was a group meet and I just didn't know what to do. I didnt know if to touch the breasts ( knowing they were false ) was the right things to do, I didnt know to touch the front of the pants or the back as I am not really into anal with anyone ). It was just too bewildering

It was not my thing but the person was fantastic.

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By *rjandmrskCouple
over a year ago

West Dunbartonshire

Underneath its still a man so if a man is having sex with another man he's not straight. Simples lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"well I ain't straight but I have met a very nice TV and I was completely like a rabbit in headlights, It was a group meet and I just didn't know what to do. I didnt know if to touch the breasts ( knowing they were false ) was the right things to do, I didnt know to touch the front of the pants or the back as I am not really into anal with anyone ). It was just too bewildering

It was not my thing but the person was fantastic.

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im sure she was so was it because the "bits" weren't real that didn't float your boat? In the back of your mind was it because it was still a guy??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Underneath its still a man so if a man is having sex with another man he's not straight. Simples lol "

Sorry I just can't think of sexuality in such black and white terms.

Nor do I think it's my place to question what box people like to tick - personal choice is just that, personal.

Where you stick your cock isn't the measure of sexuality but then, as I've said I think of it in less linear terms

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

It was not my thing but the person was fantastic.

im sure she was so was it because the "bits" weren't real that didn't float your boat? In the back of your mind was it because it was still a guy??"

I have sex with guys but I am more attracted to macho guys, I think it was more I was confused what I could do to sexually stimulate them as I didn't want anal with them so I was left thinking do I touch the cock or is it, when they are in female mode they don't want that..

I was crap at the meet

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By *rjandmrskCouple
over a year ago

West Dunbartonshire

We are all free to think of it as we wish to and how we want too and that's as it should be.

Mrs K

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interests me too. I thought would make you bisexual not gay if your gonna have to label it.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"Underneath its still a man so if a man is having sex with another man he's not straight. Simples lol

Sorry I just can't think of sexuality in such black and white terms.

Nor do I think it's my place to question what box people like to tick - personal choice is just that, personal.

Where you stick your cock isn't the measure of sexuality but then, as I've said I think of it in less linear terms "
in reply to your train of thought what about folk that aint comfy to play with individuals who partake in same sex relations perhaps this is why labels are req and to _iew yourself as straight dosnt mean you have a linear lifestyle either im sure there are things you find to out there that perhaps I dont find them that strange

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Underneath its still a man so if a man is having sex with another man he's not straight. Simples lol

Sorry I just can't think of sexuality in such black and white terms.

Nor do I think it's my place to question what box people like to tick - personal choice is just that, personal.

Where you stick your cock isn't the measure of sexuality but then, as I've said I think of it in less linear terms in reply to your train of thought what about folk that aint comfy to play with individuals who partake in same sex relations perhaps this is why labels are req and to _iew yourself as straight dosnt mean you have a linear lifestyle either im sure there are things you find to out there that perhaps I dont find them that strange"

I said linear thinking, not lifestyle.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

Lol or thought some of my thoughts are far from linear

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Lol or thought some of my thoughts are far from linear

Sexuality as defined by the tick box options on here are linear. You're either all or nothing.

100% straight

Bi-curious

Gay

To me the stretch from straight to gay is hugely grey scale and people can be fluid in where they sit along the scale.

To make it a linear definition creates issues - however perhaps it's the simplest thing to do on a website that requires you to tick a box

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"Lol or thought some of my thoughts are far from linear

Sexuality as defined by the tick box options on here are linear. You're either all or nothing.

100% straight

Bi-curious

Gay

To me the stretch from straight to gay is hugely grey scale and people can be fluid in where they sit along the scale.

To make it a linear definition creates issues - however perhaps it's the simplest thing to do on a website that requires you to tick a box "
I would agree with what you are saying apart from straight I believe that a straight person has no sexual intrest in the same sex even in a threesome or moresome scenario a straight persons focus will always be on the opposite sex or maybe its me thats slightly weird

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ahh but a straight person may still become interested in trying those things, they may not like them and return to an entirely straight position or they may enjoy it and move slightly into the grey

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

Sorry you could also add gay to straight as they have zero sexual appetite for the opposite sex so the grey area surrounds the bi sexual and the multitude of diffrent variables

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By *rjandmrskCouple
over a year ago

West Dunbartonshire

The thought of being with a women sexually makes me boke so I guess I am deffo ST8. Mrs K

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

But iv said I'm not interested in labels

I said I'm interested in hearing a straight guys perseption on meeting a TV?

I couldn't care less who folk meet or what they label themselves just interested?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

It was not my thing but the person was fantastic.

im sure she was so was it because the "bits" weren't real that didn't float your boat? In the back of your mind was it because it was still a guy??

I was crap at the meet

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see if never thought that way before

If a TV is in dress up mode do they want sex as a female

Hell that's another query also lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Exactly all variables - nothing simple. Which I guess was my point.

A TV (despite having a cock) isn't 100 'male'

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Sorry to disagree again

But no matter how good he looks moves talks he will always be a male

Again it's the other participants _iew I'm after lol

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By *ee-YinWoman
over a year ago

nr bathgate

"The thought of being with a women sexually makes me boke so I guess I am deffo ST8. Mrs K

Snap!!! I can happily look at a woman and think/say "wow she's pretty" but to be sexually intimate with a woman gives me the boke big time xx

I have nothing against anyone's sexual preference tho xx

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By *abrina59TV/TS
over a year ago

moved to cuckold land

Some men want to fuck thec ass of someome if that's a women dressed sexily or tv dressed sexily it exactly the same in their mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I had a pound for every.....

I agree with previous comments that (as with many other sites) you are on as linear scale of gay-bi-straight.

Probably more accurate to think of that as 2 scales as being from 1 to 10 or 100 or whatever.

SCALE 1- sexual preference

SCALE 2 - playmate encounters

If you accept the linear approach - Some peeps are 100% straight 100% of the time. And some are 100% gay/lesbian 100% o the time - and some fluctuate on either scale. 50million shades of grey as it were.

Speaking for myself, I find it easiest to describe having 2 distinct personas. Me the girlie is happy meeting guys n girls n TV. My alter ego would not dream of playing with guys/TVs.

It's something my alter ego & I have struggled with - until we were accepting of the different personas - sybiosis if you like.

So for many guys it may be a matter of seeing and connecting with the feminine /girlie persona.

In those situations, I can understand why some guys say straight and seek TVs.

And getting back to those scales again, it's all relative. A guy who is 100% bi all the time - ie all play is 50/50 with m & f - may not agree that they are in the same boat as someone who meets 80% women and 20% TVs.

Not sure if this helps or hinders but that's my penarth worth.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thanks for posting folks x

Still looking for the straight guy that does actually meet TVs input

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By *rsFine-MrBallsCouple
over a year ago

markinch

"The thought of being with a women sexually makes me boke so I guess I am deffo ST8. Mrs K

Ahh but if she was dressed as a man , would it not tweek your thoughts abit lol.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The thought of being with a women sexually makes me boke so I guess I am deffo ST8. Mrs K

Ahh but if she was dressed as a man , would it not tweek your thoughts abit lol.

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are woman dresses as men still called tranvestites?

God it's a minefield!!!! Lol

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By *ee-YinWoman
over a year ago

nr bathgate

"The thought of being with a women sexually makes me boke so I guess I am deffo ST8. Mrs K

Ahh but if she was dressed as a man , would it not tweek your thoughts abit lol.

Not at all as it's still a woman!!!

I'm a meat eater I'm not a vag-etarian

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The thought of being with a women sexually makes me boke so I guess I am deffo ST8. Mrs K

Ahh but if she was dressed as a man , would it not tweek your thoughts abit lol.

I'm sure that would possibly depend on how 'she' presented.

Sorry but there are some TV / TS girls on here who are positively head turning stunning.

The lack of response from men who tick straight but meet TVs isn't surprising - the question reads as a challenge rather than a curiosity.

If it's a curiosity google it - gender identity has plenty of articles written about it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you're looking too deep into any psychological reasons for this. In my experience it's for several reasons, and most of them purely superficial.

They put straight as to put anything else cuts out say, 50% of potential meets. Most women and couples won't touch a Bi guy. Always be wary of anyone who says straight, but looking to meet TV'S and has his verifications hidden.

Some honestly believe that if the girl is (sigh) "convincing" enough, it's not ghey.

Some fall victim of their high expectations and the reality of this site. There's an old joke, "what's the difference between a straight man and a Bi man? 5 pints".

I think that's wrong, from my point of _iew it's after 5 weeks of rejection on here. After so much, any hole becomes a goal. They're just happy to bust their nut inside someone and run out the door afterward.

Cynical on my part? Perhaps. But having encountered all the above scenarios on here it's bourne out by real life. And if you ever want to know what straight guys are telling porkies on here, set up an account on fabguys. It can be quite an eye opener.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think you're looking too deep into any psychological reasons for this. In my experience it's for several reasons, and most of them purely superficial.

Some honestly believe that if the girl is (sigh) "convincing" enough, it's not ghey.

Some fall victim of their high expectations and the reality of this site. There's an old joke, "what's the difference between a straight man and a Bi man? 5 pints".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I sleep with girls and trans gendered girls

reason being in like hot girls I don't care what's between their legs, there is also a big difference between a ts and a man.

I don't put a label on it though I just live my life

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Great and thanks for posting x

But if they still have their bits and technically still a man

Do you still consider it straight sex?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wheres a TV lover when you need 1 ?

Hey! I'll probably confuse this even more, ok so as my profile babe suggests I'm find of t girls! For me they must be smooth and womanly I find that a turn on I could do who is smooth and looks good but I couldn't do a hairy biker in a dress?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

But why not ?

Is still a man no matter how you dress him up?

I'm honestly interested

You couldn't have sex with a man in man clothes but it's ok if he's shaved and dressed as a woman?

But isn't the sex the same?

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By *ee-YinWoman
over a year ago

nr bathgate

"But why not ?

Is still a man no matter how you dress him up?

I'm honestly interested

You couldn't have sex with a man in man clothes but it's ok if he's shaved and dressed as a woman?

But isn't the sex the same?

Agree

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"Lol or thought some of my thoughts are far from linear

Sexuality as defined by the tick box options on here are linear. You're either all or nothing.

100% straight

Squiggly

Bi-curious

Gay

To me the stretch from straight to gay is hugely grey scale and people can be fluid in where they sit along the scale.

To make it a linear definition creates issues - however perhaps it's the simplest thing to do on a website that requires you to tick a box "

Sorted.

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By *addie bunnetMan
over a year ago

glasgow

It's just guys in-denial that there bent and really like cock and arse lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But why not ?

Is still a man no matter how you dress him up?

I'm honestly interested

You couldn't have sex with a man in man clothes but it's ok if he's shaved and dressed as a woman?

But isn't the sex the same?

You see a lot more justification for it from the guys who only want 'convincing' girls. That's important as they can then say in their own heads "she looks like a girl, she looks like a girl, she looks like a girl". Therefore not gay. And yes the sex is the same.

But many years ago now, in my guy incarnation, I was seeing a gorgeous Filipino TS in London. I mean you could not tell from looking. Even a package check was inconclusive due to the hormones and tucking. And as she wanted no recognition of her outward appearance of gender (no touching the dick at all) it was basically fucking a gorgeous woman up the bum. Which is a lot of guys dream scenario so you can see the attraction.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is it any of your business?

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman
over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!

"Why is it any of your business?"
To be fair I think the Op is just looking for str8 guys opinions as to why they are attracted to tvs/ts.

I've always been very curious about it all myself

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Yip thanks jacs

It is none if my business or anyone else's

As iv said I'm just interested

Not interested in nasty or judgementals

Just actually curious to why straight guys will have sex with a TV but not a guy dresses as a guy

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"But why not ?

Is still a man no matter how you dress him up?

I'm honestly interested

You couldn't have sex with a man in man clothes but it's ok if he's shaved and dressed as a woman?

But isn't the sex the same?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think it's best to assume with guys, particularly where this site is concerned, that the dick is in charge of most of their major thought processes. And when presented with a hole they will fuck it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think it's best to assume with guys, particularly where this site is concerned, that the dick is in charge of most of their major thought processes. And when presented with a hole they will fuck it!"

I'm openly bisexual but I won't sleep with hairy men in a dress or indeed men, like I say I like convincing tv's, it's nothing to do with my dick controlling me, it's the same for anybody of any persuasion we all go for what's attractive to us

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ooooh, touched something raw there. Methinks he doth protest too much.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But tvs are men... I understand where men come from I meet some guys who want me in suspenders and knickers they get of on it. Come on guys any holes a goal and if its in panties be it a mn or woman your in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right

Iv wondered this for yrs and now I want to know lol

What is a straight guy looking for when he meets a TV?

Is it he wants to have sex with a guy but trying to kid himself on it's really a chick?

What about 2 bi/gay TVs are they attracted to females but want sex with men?

I'm genuinely interested?

Auds x"

For me; cant quote for anyone else;

I love to dress, love the feel of hold up stockings, silk panties, bra, short skirt, top and heels and I fit well into size 8 / 10 clothes which helps.

I also have a very feminine shaped bottom & legs, some say more feminine shaped than many females, but will let the individual decide.

I simply love to suck cock and feel a mans hands on my legs, that's it full stop as I still am highly attracted to females and given choice it would be to be with a female before a man.

But I do get these unstoppable urges and feelings and there I go dressing again.

Deleted profile a few times but the desires come back, and back

If you have further questions, mail me and ask, I will answer and hopefully clear up your interests

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By *ifes journeyCouple
over a year ago

scotland

The million dollar question.......and I think most people are intrigued to find the answer but doubt many genuine people will answer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From the few men I have sucked, they say they are married and their wife don't preform oral, I guess with oral you either love it or hate it

and a man gets strong urges to be sucked

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By *arteeneWoman
over a year ago

aylesbury

"From the few men I have sucked, they say they are married and their wife don't preform oral, I guess with oral you either love it or hate it

and a man gets strong urges to be sucked"

I meet a lot of guys who say they are straight and that is down to them really they see me as a girl and most of them do not even go near my bits and that is ok with me I have great sex with them and at the end of the day we are all happy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting read but still no answers from straight guys that meet tvs

P.s i dont and wouldnt . Genuinley straight unlike a huge number on here who seem to think they can convince me otherwise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm bi and enjoy sex with men but if it was a straight choice then women win every time. There's no right or wrong answer because every person has their own reasons so you can't expect a reply which answers your question. You will however get many answers which make you ask more questions. I still don't know the answer myself and if I did then I'd be rich lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was a television program years ago, where eligible bachelors competed against each other over a course of weeks for the affections of a physically attractive and gorgeous model. All the guys declared how much they fancied her and wanted to get with her (and several of the guys did infact kiss her and even got sucked off by her on private dates on the show) until at the very end it was revealed that she was actually a shemale. All the guys resultantly wanted to sue the network as their macho image etc had been destroyed through fancying a guy, but at the end of the day those guys still desired and lusted after her…ok it is a pretty big omission not to tell them it was guy, but they still wanted to fuck her badly. There are many things that can make you suddenly find someone you previously lusted after undesirable - you find out they are married, they have 15 kids, they murdered there ex husband - none of them change the fact you still found them sexually attractive in the first instance, just in the same way revealing they were really a man cant take that back.

Sex is a mental thing just as much as it is a physical one, some people are driven by lust, desire and attraction and nothing stands in their road of attaining it, such as the case might be with a tv girl, others though may find that a mental abstraction or block kicks in that stops them from such relationships despite the fact prior to that knowledge the person was hugely desirable……….. If there was no TV profile option on here and tv’s posted using F profiles and didnt expose their genitalia or disclose it, I bet the majority of guys on here would be sexually motivated enough to message them, where their ego and social stigma would prevent them from doing so if they knew before hand it was a TV. Some people can get over that mental block, others cant or are afraid to.

There is no doubts if you fuck a tv you are fucking a guy, but I think this fascination that everyone has with categorising people as straight, bi or gay, is nonsense it is not as straight forward as that. |With some people gender is not an issue they are blind to it, they are sexually attracted to the personality only, others sexually attracted to intelligence etc. Sex is much more than just gender.

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over a year ago

Best answer yet

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"There was a television program years ago, where eligible bachelors competed against each other over a course of weeks for the affections of a physically attractive and gorgeous model. All the guys declared how much they fancied her and wanted to get with her (and several of the guys did infact kiss her and even got sucked off by her on private dates on the show) until at the very end it was revealed that she was actually a shemale. All the guys resultantly wanted to sue the network as their macho image etc had been destroyed through fancying a guy, but at the end of the day those guys still desired and lusted after her…ok it is a pretty big omission not to tell them it was guy, but they still wanted to fuck her badly. There are many things that can make you suddenly find someone you previously lusted after undesirable - you find out they are married, they have 15 kids, they murdered there ex husband - none of them change the fact you still found them sexually attractive in the first instance, just in the same way revealing they were really a man cant take that back.

great post

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Right

What is a straight guy looking for when he meets a TV?

Another Bi/Gay man who cant come to terms with his sexuality either because of peer pressure of because of fear or discover or confusion.

P.S Each to their own but really ...straight guys dont look for gay/bi Tvs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe it's coz supposedly guys are better at suckin cock! Or maybe the more rational thought that they are bi but cant admit it, either way who cares live & let live only get 1 life we shoul do whatever we want & not be judged for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"either way who cares live & let live only get 1 life we shoul do whatever we want & not be judged for it"

Yeah but lets call a spade a spade and not pretend to be something theyre not ( I.E. Straight)

Bi Gay whatever you are at least have the courage of their convictions to stand up and be counted and not hide behind a socially/peerage acceptable tag of anything but NON GAY/BI aka straight!

We all know where we are then!

Why fucking hide what you are? ...unless of course you want your cake and to eat it!

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over a year ago

With respect Dave & Pippa, and I am playing devils advocate here, is there a legitimate reason that anyone should feel the need to pigeonhole themselves? I'm sure that in a positive way it makes navigating this site easier to broadly find likeminded people ie, straight to straight, bi to bi, gay to gay etc etc etc.

You have probably met a fair few bi people of both sexes in your time, who have not made any advances towards the same sex partner, and have had a great time and thought what bloody nice people they were. Whether they themselves were bi was not an issue as they knew you werent and knew the boundaries, it made no difference to the overall experience you have with them. It is kind of like saying you wont meet vegetarians, or people born in December, it does not have any effect on the actual meet and is easily faked. If you invited your friend round for a lovely roast dinner and they inform you that they don't like potato, do you choose not to invite them round for dinner at all, or do you simply leave potatoes off of there plate and not mention it again?

With the bi-thing, I think it is simply people are socially conditioned to think of it is a negative light, particularly bi-men, I can think of nothing more hypocritical and off-putting than seeing that plastered all over someones profile, bi-fems allowed but absolutely no bi-men NO BI| MEN!! haha

You mentioned having the courage of your convictions and hiding what you really are, .. do you tell all your friends and family that you are swingers? How many people on here lead the people around them in day to day life to believe that they are your normal missionary position loving, sex only on special occasions couples etc etc?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also, no offence to any ginger haired folks... if a ginger girl dyes there hair and they become a blonde stunner, is it misrepresentation to say they are blonde? If you like what you see, you'll still fuck her even if you know shes really a ginger, unless the negative social connotation of gingers that does exist plays with your mind and prevents you.

Could it be said that person doesn't actually prefer blondes which she appears to be on the surface, but actually prefers gingers which she was born as?

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By *yrshiremischiefMan
over a year ago

Kilmarnock

"Also, no offence to any ginger haired folks... if a ginger girl dyes there hair and they become a blonde stunner, is it misrepresentation to say they are blonde? If you like what you see, you'll still fuck her even if you know shes really a ginger, unless the negative social connotation of gingers that does exist plays with your mind and prevents you.

Could it be said that person doesn't actually prefer blondes which she appears to be on the surface, but actually prefers gingers which she was born as?"

Prefacing offensive remarks by saying, 'No offence', doesn't make them less offensive. As to the analogy - it is so tortured that I'm thinking of referring it to Amnesty International.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"With respect Dave & Pippa, and I am playing devils advocate here, is there a legitimate reason that anyone should feel the need to pigeonhole themselves? I'm sure that in a positive way it makes navigating this site easier to broadly find likeminded people ie, straight to straight, bi to bi, gay to gay etc etc etc.

Just food for thought. Everyone has preferences which is fair enough, but I think some things said on here just lack pure common sense and logic, which is surprising as on a swinging site which is full of intelligent people and where you would expect people to be open minded it is surprisingly small minded a lot of the time."
all sounds wonderful untill you add others into the mix ie those who do not want to have sexual contact with folk who have sex with the same sex by saying you are straight you mislead folk you can pretend to yourself as much as you like but it is unfair to decieve others in doingso

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By *ifes journeyCouple
over a year ago

scotland

I think we all just have to have our own take on things .....people will never ever agree as too many grey areas .

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over a year ago

" Prefacing offensive remarks by saying, 'No offence', doesn't make them less offensive. As to the analogy - it is so tortured that I'm thinking of referring it to Amnesty International."

Your not wrong about the analogy its terrible, but I am just trying to look at it in different ways that may lead to more discussion.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

There's no right or wrong to this

It was a question way at the start as to why straight guys go with TVs ?

Not judging anyone that does or TVs in general

I was genuinely interested

Auds x

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By *r and Mrs SnogalotCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"There's no right or wrong to this

It was a question way at the start as to why straight guys go with TVs ?

Not judging anyone that does or TVs in general

I was genuinely interested

Auds x"

What a great question that I think got some great answers.

A long time ago some one once informed me that men are fickle creatures when it comes to their life long partners. Not so much when it is to satisfy an urge. I don't know how true that is - but for me I see that attitude as insulting.

If that is the motivation (any hole is a goal) what an absolute lack of respect some people have.

Shy

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over a year ago

Could it be said that person doesn't actually prefer blondes which she appears to be on the surface, but actually prefers gingers which she was born as?

Prefacing offensive remarks by saying, 'No offence', doesn't make them less offensive. As to the analogy - it is so tortured that I'm thinking of referring it to Amnesty International."

We like red heads & Bi people & couples. Feel free to throw them all our way

I think not telling the whole truth or telling partial truths about your sexual orientation or preferences etc could be seen a misleading especially on a sex site where you would expect people to be open & honest about that. But then again you shouldn't have to justify yourself to anyone . Can see both sides.

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By *ibertinesCouple
over a year ago

Cupar

"TVs are not the same as a man (or not to my mind).

As for the labels we are forced to select on here (straight / bi) I hate how pigeon holing they are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

great post

I did see that and the guy.ts was stunning make up clothes figure etc better than some woman and looked like a woman. If they knew it was a she male would they have has the same desire? No because they were duped into thinking it was a woman

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My good friend Jodie replied earlier in this thread & hit the nail right on the head.

Peer Group pressure is the reason why so many "Straight" guys want to meet a TV

Almost every straight guy that wants to meet me has stated couples & females won't meet a Bi Guy.

Have no idea why they jus don't bother setting up a "Straight" profile & a "Bi" profile. It would save a lot of trouble

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are not straight, they are either Bi / gay / in the closet and are so far back the are in Narnia, or are in denial. But they are not straight by the definition of the word straight. Even if it's a kink they are engaging or wanting to engage in a same sex act, which would be gay. Or at least experimentation into a gay lifestyle. (And I'm not judging, just giving my opinion on how I see it)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you define female as 'Having lady bits' and male 'as having male bits' you are so black and white that you miss the point.

A straight man may fancy a black, white, yellow, or green lady, she may be 7 ft tall or a midget, she may have a beard and hands like a docker but still be female - therefore the chap fancying her is still 'straight'.

The man who likes alternative ladies..shouldn't really label himself anything other than enjoying femininity and those who wear it well.

I have met some of the most utterly beguiling, sensual and elegant ladies who were born either side of the tracks..I don't differentiate any more than I would 'within gender'

If we all stopped living by labels and started living by liking what we see and going for it, the world would be a better place.

Wars are started by the 'you are different from me brigade' We are all human.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would meet a TV only if they were convincing though lol

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By *exyangietgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

edinburgh

"Right

Iv wondered this for yrs and now I want to know lol

What is a straight guy looking for when he meets a TV?

Is it he wants to have sex with a guy but trying to kid himself on it's really a chick?

What about 2 bi/gay TVs are they attracted to females but want sex with men?

I'm genuinely interested?

Auds x"

For what it's worth my opinion is that part of the reason straight guys can fancy girls like me is that we instinctively understand what men are attracted to in females and so we can dress sexily, put on make up to try to look nice, dress smart, dress sexy, dress slutty and be a total slkut in the bedroom if that's what's required.

I enjoy all of that and I enjoy having the choice of clothes and looks that women have.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I would meet a TV only if they were convincing though lol"
yesh but you are bi?

It's the straight guys I want to know what their looking for

A bi guy is attracted to both female and male so a TV is perfect

But a straight guy is attracted to a female

Dress up a guy is still a guy when naked?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Thanks for posting folks x

Still looking for the straight guy that does actually meet TVs input

I'll try, but doubt it will be any more enlightening.

In every single walk of life I'm straight. I'm hugely attracted to women, they're absolutely gorgeous, incredibly sexy and absolutely my preference.

The one exception is Fab, and a bit of porn. I definitely find myself attracted to TV/TS girls, and this is the one and only place I'd indulge that. The tick-box approach to labelling and defining therefore means I have to at least put bi or be castigated as one of those evil deceptive males etc.

Why am I attracted? Well, I'm not convinced there are 100% straight and gay. We can, through our behaviours and societal norms act as 100% one or the other certainly, but there are elements - be it thinking a particular guy is good looking, through to acting upon it in some way.

I have no interest in acting on it with a guy. But on the very, very, very rare occasions when I act on it with a TS/TV I am not with a guy, as the mental element of sex is enormously important.

I suppose one of the basic elements - TV/TS girls generally dress very sexily. There are few/less inhibitions, allowing you to experiment and find out what you enjoy, or don't enjoy. There is of course also the element of thrill, taboo, and sneaking to do something naughty which has an attraction of its own too.

The irony is that this small part of my sexual preference pretty much precludes any chance of the main part - females - being realised on here.

Suppose when I get down to it, I'm just enormously attracted by anyone in high-heels boots or shoes and a short skirt!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vixen and Angie's points above are both also correct.

As a male, my majority preference is female, though I'd also be interested in groups etc. If I put straight to pursue this interest and meet a TV there would be a string of complaints about being dishonest and pressure to change it.

So you choose to put bi, but are then essentially removed from being of interest to most. Despite the prevailing belief that swingers etc are open minded and adventurous, there is a lot of group think, societal norm filling and peer expectation involved.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Cheers folks

Think iv came to the conclusion that it's not about gay/bi/straight/man/woman

It's about fantasy and fulfilment

Auds x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cheers folks

Think iv came to the conclusion that it's not about gay/bi/straight/man/woman

It's about fantasy and fulfilment

Auds x

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still as confused as ever auds but I'm old school black and white I not knock anyone for sexual preference's but if you dress a salad it still just a salad.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I like a woman but I have this fantasy about TS. What excites me about this? Ts for me the person taking the hormones of the female voice, a woman's body, breasts and ...cock lol

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"Vixen and Angie's points above are both also correct.

The other element Angie mentioned - there is something hugely erotic about someone dressing up in the most arousing way possible yet at the same time having more of an instinctive feel for what 'gets you going'."
you are noot passed aside by anyone other than those who for whatever reason dont meet those who meet same sex we may not like labels but it really is simple if you seek sexual contact from the same sex no matter what clothes they wear you are bi I would not play with anyone who lies but have played in the past with cpls where the male is honest and states he is bi as long as ground rules are set its fine

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By *he_batmanMan
over a year ago

Gotham

"But it's a man dressed as a woman OR if it's a TS it's a woman just with male anatomy.

Sex (for me) isn't not just about the body parts. It's the fantasy, the kink, the erotic build up, the person.

If a man isn't attracted to another man but is aroused by a TV or TS and wants to identify as straight as they see a difference I support that prerogative "

Regardless of fantasy, what the Tv is wearing or anything else, it's a guy. Therefore in my opinion a "straight" guy who Fucks a tv is not really straight. More likely gay or bi but cannot accept that fact.

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By *arteeneWoman
over a year ago

aylesbury

"But it's a man dressed as a woman OR if it's a TS it's a woman just with male anatomy.

Sex (for me) isn't not just about the body parts. It's the fantasy, the kink, the erotic build up, the person.

If a man isn't attracted to another man but is aroused by a TV or TS and wants to identify as straight as they see a difference I support that prerogative

That's a bit out or order we are not its we are humans who cares if the are straight bi or gay it is there Choice of what they want to be ,you do not know what is in our head and how we feel it may be your opinion which you are entitled to its not just male to female transgender there are female to male and lots in between

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But it's a man dressed as a woman OR if it's a TS it's a woman just with male anatomy.

Sex (for me) isn't not just about the body parts. It's the fantasy, the kink, the erotic build up, the person.

If a man isn't attracted to another man but is aroused by a TV or TS and wants to identify as straight as they see a difference I support that prerogative

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By *oanne_MacTV/TS
over a year ago

Perth

If you find out let me know.....

Any man wanting to sleep with a TV is Bi or Bi curious IMHO....

A TV (a proper one) and not just a fat hairy guy in his wifes knickers is not "just a bloke in lingerie".... we think of ourselves as female when dressed in varying levels.... many people get crossdressers (CD) mixed up. The TV identifies as female when dressed, but doesn't want to dress everyday or change sex etc...

A full transgender TS/TG is to all intents and purposes a female who wants to change bodies...

But any guy wanting to sleep with anyone but the TS/ TG is kidding himself on he's 100% straight....

Mind you i dont care cause I'm attracted to females and other TV's, but i admit my attraction to TVs makes me Bi lol.... but just to confuse you im only Bi when im dressed myself

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Lol oops way confused again lol

But has been a real eye opener to everyone's different take on this topic

I thank everyone who has posted

Auds

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By *bzguyMan
over a year ago

Aberdeen and shire

TV no (just me not knocking anyone) however I have had girls work for me as strippers that were what I would call transgender . They made a fortune! I'm not judging ,how can I ? I'm just putting this out there for your comments .im genuinely interested

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I say bi... My best friend is on here, a cross dresser. All the guys he meets are "straight" your not straight when your sucking another guy off

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman
over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!

"I say bi... My best friend is on here, a cross dresser. All the guys he meets are "straight" your not straight when your sucking another guy off

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No they aint and thats also why these guys hide behind 2nd profiles because they dont want their potential str8 meets knowing they like to suck cock too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can be quite funny when I show him a pic of someone I'm speaking with and quite often he'll say he's been with them.

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By *oanne_MacTV/TS
over a year ago

Perth

Some TVs have a TV profile and also a "straight" male profile so as not to put any ladies off them lol....

Similiarly many of the straight profiles on here have a profile on fab guys where interestingly they are Bi...

Amazing, men love the thought of lesbian or Bi women, but cant admit to being just a little bit Bi themselves..... who cares what anyone is if it doesnt harm anyone else..... its all ok if you ask me, just be feckin honest with yourselves

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman
over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!

"Some TVs have a TV profile and also a "straight" male profile so as not to put any ladies off them lol....

Similiarly many of the straight profiles on here have a profile on fab guys where interestingly they are Bi...

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By *0JOMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Why is the poster so interested. All these labels are made up by society for the purpose to control and order.

Let's just make a new "label " for straight men who have sex with TVs. - suggestions? - how about strans?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Each to their own, what some people on here will _iew as mystifying or "odd"is "normal"or acceptable for others without people questioning their sexuality. It's not my cup of tea but I see no merit at all in applying my morality or _iewpoint to the sexual activities of consenting adults in a judgmental manner and labeling them

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over a year ago

"Why is the poster so interested. All these labels are made up by society for the purpose to control and order.

Let's just make a new "label " for straight men who have sex with TVs. - suggestions? - how about strans? "
because I'm genuinely interested x

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

"Each to their own, what some people on here will _iew as mystifying or "odd"is "normal"or acceptable for others without people questioning their sexuality. It's not my cup of tea but I see no merit at all in applying my morality or _iewpoint to the sexual activities of consenting adults in a judgmental manner and labeling them"
"labels" are required for those who choose not to meet with a specific group of people for whatever reason. if a female is repulsed by the thought of being with a man who has sex with another man is this fair for a guy who has sexual contact with other men to say he is straight because the only guys he fucks wear a dress to my mind its not fair and the person should be honest there are others who dont mind having sexual relations with bi men hell a fair few find it a turn on this is the reasons that it is only fair to answer the question of sexuality honestly i talk too all folk until a man has the full op i always _iew them as male no matter how convincing for someone who has had the op i then _iew them as female. would it be fair of a black african man to say he is a white caucasian ? as this is no diffrent to my mind

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By *unJoinerMan
over a year ago

Leith

I meet TV's and TS's.

I don't meet ones who don't make an effort of shaving/waxing make up / hair.

The person who is dressing female in my head is female! I would never meet them in male mode as would turn me off.

So goes to say if the person your having fun with is feeling and trying to be female. Then you could label yourself as straight.

There is a hell of a lot of negative stigma to bi guys. It's like we want to sleep with every guy or girl we see.

Its upto the person if they want to be bi or straight.

If you put BI on profile it puts a lot of people off , that's why they keep profile straight !

Hope this sheds some light for you!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

My post isn't about labels

It was about what are straight guys looking for when they meet TVs?

As someone said before you could be the hottest looking TV on the site but underneath those pink frilly knickers there's still gonna be a knob?

Do how can a supposedly straight man touch / feel another guys knob if he says he's straight?

That's my question or.. Do most straight guys not go near TVs male parts do they just go straight for the sex?

Even when I chat to TVs some very convincing some not I still know in my mind they are men so how can some guys switch completely off and some can't?

Auds x

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By *ifferent69Man
over a year ago

BRIGHTON, UK

I,ve often heard it be said that women sometimes prefer to be with each other because they know what each other want.

Perhaps this is equally the same with a st8 guy with TV.

The TV knows he is straight but understands the guy " perhaps" wishes to exsperience what a woman does with a fella...

Hope i,m making sence here....

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By *unJoinerMan
over a year ago

Leith

"My post isn't about labels

It was about what are straight guys looking for when they meet TVs?

As someone said before you could be the hottest looking TV on the site but underneath those pink frilly knickers there's still gonna be a knob?

Do how can a supposedly straight man touch / feel another guys knob if he says he's straight?

That's my question or.. Do most straight guys not go near TVs male parts do they just go straight for the sex?

Even when I chat to TVs some very convincing some not I still know in my mind they are men so how can some guys switch completely off and some can't?

Auds x"

Some tv's ts's don't like the guys touching there male parts when meeting.

It's all about the mind.... If a person who in there head is thinking they are female then they are female! Just because they were born with the wrong sexual organs is harsh to just say they are male just because they have the sexual organs as a male.

As I said when I meet a convincing TV or TS . Not for one second I think they are male! They are female in my head as they dress as a female.

They guy meeting does not always want to play with the TS TV sexual parts. They just want to have sex with them.

But on the flip side some guys want to have anal sex and they choose to do that with a femine person, rather than with a burley bloke. I can't speak for them as that is not my thing.

You really don't have to understand everything in this world.

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By *arteeneWoman
over a year ago

aylesbury

"My post isn't about labels

It was about what are straight guys looking for when they meet TVs?

As someone said before you could be the hottest looking TV on the site but underneath those pink frilly knickers there's still gonna be a knob?

Do how can a supposedly straight man touch / feel another guys knob if he says he's straight?

That's my question or.. Do most straight guys not go near TVs male parts do they just go straight for the sex?

Even when I chat to TVs some very convincing some not I still know in my mind they are men so how can some guys switch completely off and some can't?

Auds x

Some tv's ts's don't like the guys touching there male parts when meeting.

As I said when I meet a convincing TV or TS . Not for one second I think they are male! They are female in my head as they dress as a female.

They guy meeting does not always want to play with the TS TV sexual parts. They just want to have sex with them.

But on the flip side some guys want to have anal sex and they choose to do that with a femine person, rather than with a burley bloke. I can't speak for them as that is not my thing.

You really don't have to understand everything in this world.

Well said x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My post isn't about labels

It was about what are straight guys looking for when they meet TVs?

As someone said before you could be the hottest looking TV on the site but underneath those pink frilly knickers there's still gonna be a knob?

Do how can a supposedly straight man touch / feel another guys knob if he says he's straight?

That's my question or.. Do most straight guys not go near TVs male parts do they just go straight for the sex?

Even when I chat to TVs some very convincing some not I still know in my mind they are men so how can some guys switch completely off and some can't?

Auds x

Some tv's ts's don't like the guys touching there male parts when meeting.

As I said when I meet a convincing TV or TS . Not for one second I think they are male! They are female in my head as they dress as a female.

They guy meeting does not always want to play with the TS TV sexual parts. They just want to have sex with them.

But on the flip side some guys want to have anal sex and they choose to do that with a femine person, rather than with a burley bloke. I can't speak for them as that is not my thing.

You really don't have to understand everything in this world.

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well put

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By *unJoinerMan
over a year ago

Leith

Auds , what do you have against bi guys?

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By *ifes journeyCouple
over a year ago

scotland

"Auds , what do you have against bi guys?

I don't think auds has anything against bi men, think it's more she wants to understand something....nothing wrong with being intrigued with something.....better finding out than making an opinion without looking at ither _iews, scenarios and experiences.

Think many people are intrigued that's what the forums are for to discuss and find out information.....

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By *unJoinerMan
over a year ago

Leith

"Auds , what do you have against bi guys?

Think many people are intrigued that's what the forums are for to discuss and find out information.....

Check her profile, she does not like meeting bi guys

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Auds , what do you have against bi guys?

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nothing at all

Would I shag 1 no I wouldn't shag a dwarf either dosnt mean I wouldn't buy them a drink?

It was a genuine question x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Auds , what do you have against bi guys?

Think many people are intrigued that's what the forums are for to discuss and find out information.....

cheers mrs lol

I honestly think some can't handle a forum post that isn't having a pop at someone or asking what they have had for dinner ?

It's a query that iv thought about over the yrs so I thought I would ask the question

And judging by the amount of folk posting I think I'm not alone?

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By *ifes journeyCouple
over a year ago

scotland

"Auds , what do you have against bi guys?

Think many people are intrigued that's what the forums are for to discuss and find out information.....

Check her profile, she does not like meeting bi guys

Doesn't mean she has anything against them? You have no point.....I don't meet black men doesn't mean I have anything against them just not my thing the lists endless .

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By *ifes journeyCouple
over a year ago

scotland

"Auds , what do you have against bi guys?

Think many people are intrigued that's what the forums are for to discuss and find out information.....

cheers mrs lol

I honestly think some can't handle a forum post that isn't having a pop at someone or asking what they have had for dinner ?

It's a query that iv thought about over the yrs so I thought I would ask the question

And judging by the amount of folk posting I think I'm not alone?

After some of the shit posted in here I actually thought it's one of the best topics in a while.....it's a question I have always had too.

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