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By *opinov OP   Man
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria

Personally, I hope you have the gumption to vote yes. I hope so because, living in Cumbria, I'd very much like the north of England to have the option of joining you. I kid you not - and I can tell you there are a lot of folks in Cumbria and Northumberland who would much rather become part of an independent Scotland than remain governed by a Eton schooled elite in Westminster who don't give a toss about the north.

To any Scots who might still be undecided, I'll offer a quote I was sent the other day...

____________________

"If you vote No, I ask you to consider not just what you are voting against – Scotland’s right to control our own destiny – but also what you would be voting for.

To vote No is to vote for the system that allowed Maggie to impose the poll tax and much else. The system that allowed Tony to take us to war based on lies. The system that allowed Cameron to dictate there would be no second question for a middle way on the voting paper. The system that has so often been used against us and, sooner or later, will be again.

Is that what you want?"

?- Canon Kenyon Wright

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Good luck Scotland... and when you vote YES, please bring Cumbria and Northumberland with you!

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By *MD47Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"

Personally, I hope you have the gumption to vote yes. I hope so because, living in Cumbria, I'd very much like the north of England to have the option of joining you. I kid you not - and I can tell you there are a lot of folks in Cumbria and Northumberland who would much rather become part of an independent Scotland than remain governed by a Eton schooled elite in Westminster who don't give a toss about the north.

To any Scots who might still be undecided, I'll offer a quote I was sent the other day...

____________________

"If you vote No, I ask you to consider not just what you are voting against – Scotland’s right to control our own destiny – but also what you would be voting for.

To vote No is to vote for the system that allowed Maggie to impose the poll tax and much else. The system that allowed Tony to take us to war based on lies. The system that allowed Cameron to dictate there would be no second question for a middle way on the voting paper. The system that has so often been used against us and, sooner or later, will be again.

Is that what you want?"

?- Canon Kenyon Wright

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Good luck Scotland... and when you vote YES, please bring Cumbria and Northumberland with you!

"

England had the chance of regional assemblys but you knocked it back. You should be pushing for that again. You have no idea how much this whole debate has made friends and families. It has put a MASSIVE divided right through the people of Scotland. It has turned people against each other.

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By *opinov OP   Man
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria


"It has put a MASSIVE divided right through the people of Scotland. It has turned people against each other."

... just how Westminster like it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Personally, I hope you have the gumption to vote yes. I hope so because, living in Cumbria, I'd very much like the north of England to have the option of joining you. I kid you not - and I can tell you there are a lot of folks in Cumbria and Northumberland who would much rather become part of an independent Scotland than remain governed by a Eton schooled elite in Westminster who don't give a toss about the north.

To any Scots who might still be undecided, I'll offer a quote I was sent the other day...

____________________

"If you vote No, I ask you to consider not just what you are voting against – Scotland’s right to control our own destiny – but also what you would be voting for.

To vote No is to vote for the system that allowed Maggie to impose the poll tax and much else. The system that allowed Tony to take us to war based on lies. The system that allowed Cameron to dictate there would be no second question for a middle way on the voting paper. The system that has so often been used against us and, sooner or later, will be again.

Is that what you want?"

?- Canon Kenyon Wright

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Good luck Scotland... and when you vote YES, please bring Cumbria and Northumberland with you!

"

I would take you with me

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes

When the Union first came about, there were riots in the streets and civil unrest. It was a very unpopular move with the people. It took 50 years to be fully established but Scots, particularly Highland Scots, never forgot. At least this time round we get the choice. I have been very vocal in my support, but I haven't slagged anyone off for having the opposite view, nor have I, as an individual, been threatened, intimidated, slagged off, ignored, unfriended etc, although I know a lot of people who have. The divide won't last forever regardless of the decision and we'll all get back to normal soon, whatever that is. What I am proud of is the fact that this Country has gotten up as one and really engaged with the process. There will always be people who act like thugs and hooligans, on both sides, but generally speaking I have seen people debating and discussing the referendum ever where. Whatever the outcome I am proud to have been part of such a momentus and historical day.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"When the Union first came about, there were riots in the streets and civil unrest. It was a very unpopular move with the people. It took 50 years to be fully established but Scots, particularly Highland Scots, never forgot. At least this time round we get the choice. I have been very vocal in my support, but I haven't slagged anyone off for having the opposite view, nor have I, as an individual, been threatened, intimidated, slagged off, ignored, unfriended etc, although I know a lot of people who have. The divide won't last forever regardless of the decision and we'll all get back to normal soon, whatever that is. What I am proud of is the fact that this Country has gotten up as one and really engaged with the process. There will always be people who act like thugs and hooligans, on both sides, but generally speaking I have seen people debating and discussing the referendum ever where. Whatever the outcome I am proud to have been part of such a momentus and historical day."
just been talking to someone who has been through this with his adopted country and the devide is still there I fear it wont heal post friday results no matter which side win the others will not be happy can see the told you so comments this time next yr no matter what the outcome tommorow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Personally, I hope you have the gumption to vote yes. I hope so because, living in Cumbria, I'd very much like the north of England to have the option of joining you. I kid you not - and I can tell you there are a lot of folks in Cumbria and Northumberland who would much rather become part of an independent Scotland than remain governed by a Eton schooled elite in Westminster who don't give a toss about the north.

To any Scots who might still be undecided, I'll offer a quote I was sent the other day...

____________________

"If you vote No, I ask you to consider not just what you are voting against – Scotland’s right to control our own destiny – but also what you would be voting for.

To vote No is to vote for the system that allowed Maggie to impose the poll tax and much else. The system that allowed Tony to take us to war based on lies. The system that allowed Cameron to dictate there would be no second question for a middle way on the voting paper. The system that has so often been used against us and, sooner or later, will be again.

Is that what you want?"

?- Canon Kenyon Wright

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Good luck Scotland... and when you vote YES, please bring Cumbria and Northumberland with you!

"
I think everyone north of the Watford gap would like to come with us.

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By *aucy MikeCouple
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"

Personally, I hope you have the gumption to vote yes. I hope so because, living in Cumbria, I'd very much like the north of England to have the option of joining you. I kid you not - and I can tell you there are a lot of folks in Cumbria and Northumberland who would much rather become part of an independent Scotland than remain governed by a Eton schooled elite in Westminster who don't give a toss about the north.

To any Scots who might still be undecided, I'll offer a quote I was sent the other day...

____________________

"If you vote No, I ask you to consider not just what you are voting against – Scotland’s right to control our own destiny – but also what you would be voting for.

To vote No is to vote for the system that allowed Maggie to impose the poll tax and much else. The system that allowed Tony to take us to war based on lies. The system that allowed Cameron to dictate there would be no second question for a middle way on the voting paper. The system that has so often been used against us and, sooner or later, will be again.

Is that what you want?"

?- Canon Kenyon Wright

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Good luck Scotland... and when you vote YES, please bring Cumbria and Northumberland with you!

I think everyone north of the Watford gap would like to come with us.

"

certainly the majority of union colleagues in the other 3 home nations are telling me to vote yes and it'd encourage them (particularly the Cornish!) to try the same! Sx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Personally, I hope you have the gumption to vote yes. I hope so because, living in Cumbria, I'd very much like the north of England to have the option of joining you. I kid you not - and I can tell you there are a lot of folks in Cumbria and Northumberland who would much rather become part of an independent Scotland than remain governed by a Eton schooled elite in Westminster who don't give a toss about the north.

To any Scots who might still be undecided, I'll offer a quote I was sent the other day...

____________________

"If you vote No, I ask you to consider not just what you are voting against – Scotland’s right to control our own destiny – but also what you would be voting for.

To vote No is to vote for the system that allowed Maggie to impose the poll tax and much else. The system that allowed Tony to take us to war based on lies. The system that allowed Cameron to dictate there would be no second question for a middle way on the voting paper. The system that has so often been used against us and, sooner or later, will be again.

Is that what you want?"

?- Canon Kenyon Wright

____________________

Good luck Scotland... and when you vote YES, please bring Cumbria and Northumberland with you!

England had the chance of regional assemblys but you knocked it back. You should be pushing for that again. You have no idea how much this whole debate has made friends and families. It has put a MASSIVE divided right through the people of Scotland. It has turned people against each other

"
tad over drastic there

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"It has put a MASSIVE divided right through the people of Scotland. It has turned people against each other.

... just how Westminster like it. "

Except it wasn't Westminster who asked for the referendum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When the Union first came about, there were riots in the streets and civil unrest. It was a very unpopular move with the people. It took 50 years to be fully established but Scots, particularly Highland Scots, never forgot. At least this time round we get the choice. I have been very vocal in my support, but I haven't slagged anyone off for having the opposite view, nor have I, as an individual, been threatened, intimidated, slagged off, ignored, unfriended etc, although I know a lot of people who have. The divide won't last forever regardless of the decision and we'll all get back to normal soon, whatever that is. What I am proud of is the fact that this Country has gotten up as one and really engaged with the process. There will always be people who act like thugs and hooligans, on both sides, but generally speaking I have seen people debating and discussing the referendum ever where. Whatever the outcome I am proud to have been part of such a momentus and historical day.just been talking to someone who has been through this with his adopted country and the devide is still there I fear it wont heal post friday results no matter which side win the others will not be happy can see the told you so comments this time next yr no matter what the outcome tommorow"

The outcome is just the start... I'm quite scared still voting a big NO though

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


".just been talking to someone who has been through this with his adopted country and the devide is still there I fear it wont heal post friday results no matter which side win the others will not be happy can see the told you so comments this time next yr no matter what the outcome tommorow"

Kola is right - it doesn't matter what the outcome of tomorrow's vote is, the damage has been done to the great people of Scotland. Communities have become more divided as a result of this process and the lies and rhetoric from BOTH sides. I fear this country will never be the same again.

I moved here for a better life for my kids but I fear now that I may have made a mistake. I just PRAY that whatever the outcome, people can come back together and set their political differences aside again and live peacefully once more

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah am deed against Cumbria n the geordies joinin uz ya speak o funny cannea onderston a wurd yiz say

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By *opinov OP   Man
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria


"Nah am deed against Cumbria n the geordies joinin uz ya speak o funny cannea onderston a wurd yiz say "

Wossat marra?

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By *eonardo Da VinciMan
over a year ago

manchester

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By *eonardo Da VinciMan
over a year ago

manchester

I am definetly voting NO! There is way tooo much risk to pensions, house prices, food prices, jobs. i want a future for my children and divisions does not bode well for that in a global economy.

The SNP are complete are liars and bullies. Only the ignorant "patriots" want independence. WAKE UP! You define your future NOT Governments!

The only reason Northern England wants a yes vote is because many companies will relocate to the north east. The people that will profit the most from indepdendence is the north east!

Voting yes is like banging strangers bareback! Ya dig!

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By *opinov OP   Man
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria


"I am definetly voting NO! There is way tooo much risk to pensions, house prices, food prices, jobs. i want a future for my children and divisions does not bode well for that in a global economy.

The SNP are complete are liars and bullies. Only the ignorant "patriots" want independence. WAKE UP! You define your future NOT Governments!

The only reason Northern England wants a yes vote is because many companies will relocate to the north east. The people that will profit the most from indepdendence is the north east!

Voting yes is like banging strangers bareback! Ya dig! "

Actually, in the event of a YES vote, I'm planning to move both my companies to Dumfries & Galloway.

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By *eonardo Da VinciMan
over a year ago

manchester


"I am definetly voting NO! There is way tooo much risk to pensions, house prices, food prices, jobs. i want a future for my children and divisions does not bode well for that in a global economy.

The SNP are complete are liars and bullies. Only the ignorant "patriots" want independence. WAKE UP! You define your future NOT Governments!

The only reason Northern England wants a yes vote is because many companies will relocate to the north east. The people that will profit the most from indepdendence is the north east!

Voting yes is like banging strangers bareback! Ya dig!

Actually, in the event of a YES vote, I'm planning to move both my companies to Dumfries & Galloway."

Seeing is believing! Its easy to blurt stuff on a forum, but the facts remain the same. Exceptions do not undo the rule!

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By *MD47Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


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Voting yes is like banging strangers bareback! Ya dig!

Actually, in the event of a YES vote, I'm planning to move both my companies to Dumfries & Galloway."

If its a NO vote will you still move? Or did you just want to jump on the lower coperation tax ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


".just been talking to someone who has been through this with his adopted country and the devide is still there I fear it wont heal post friday results no matter which side win the others will not be happy can see the told you so comments this time next yr no matter what the outcome tommorow

Kola is right - it doesn't matter what the outcome of tomorrow's vote is, the damage has been done to the great people of Scotland. Communities have become more divided as a result of this process and the lies and rhetoric from BOTH sides. I fear this country will never be the same again.

I moved here for a better life for my kids but I fear now that I may have made a mistake. I just PRAY that whatever the outcome, people can come back together and set their political differences aside again and live peacefully once more "
Where did you move from?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am definetly voting NO! There is way tooo much risk to pensions, house prices, food prices, jobs. i want a future for my children and divisions does not bode well for that in a global economy.

The SNP are complete are liars and bullies. Only the ignorant "patriots" want independence. WAKE UP! You define your future NOT Governments!

The only reason Northern England wants a yes vote is because many companies will relocate to the north east. The people that will profit the most from indepdendence is the north east!

Voting yes is like banging strangers bareback! Ya dig! "
Its not the SNPyou would be voting for,maybe you should look into it further.

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By *eonardo Da VinciMan
over a year ago

manchester


"I am definetly voting NO! There is way tooo much risk to pensions, house prices, food prices, jobs. i want a future for my children and divisions does not bode well for that in a global economy.

The SNP are complete are liars and bullies. Only the ignorant "patriots" want independence. WAKE UP! You define your future NOT Governments!

The only reason Northern England wants a yes vote is because many companies will relocate to the north east. The people that will profit the most from indepdendence is the north east!

Voting yes is like banging strangers bareback! Ya dig! Its not the SNPyou would be voting for,maybe you should look into it further.

"

I think it is you who needs to do so, the SNP are the driving force, everyone else is a pawn inthe game. The "team" scotland is a fad! Puppets controlled by muppets...

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By *andemanMan
over a year ago

bedforshire

I am tempted to make a comment on the competence of muppets but I will refrain.

The SNP are clearly the main drivers for independence the SSP are hangers on hoping an independent Scotland would be more likely to vote for them. Further the SSP is hoping that a yes vote will somehow bring the revolution and the red flag will fly over Westminster. Now I am a lefty but even I know that this is a pipe dream. Talk about muppets!

As for unity we are lost without it. I am a no but come what may only a united Scotland will survive this whole process.

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By *opinov OP   Man
over a year ago

Point Nemo, Cumbria


"Actually, in the event of a YES vote, I'm planning to move both my companies to Dumfries & Galloway.

Seeing is believing! Its easy to blurt stuff on a forum, but the facts remain the same. Exceptions do not undo the rule!"

I've taken a poll of my employees and the consensus is behind moving in the event of a YES. As for times scale, that'll most likely be determined by the needs of everyone and their families, as well as the point I judge it best to expand and take on more staff (which would most likely then be drawn from the locality) - could be anywhere between a year and three years.


"If its a NO vote will you still move? Or did you just want to jump on the lower coperation tax ...."

Eventually perhaps, but probably not in the next ten years. Again though, it'll depend on circumstances. Corporation tax may be a consideration but it's by no means the major one.

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


".just been talking to someone who has been through this with his adopted country and the devide is still there I fear it wont heal post friday results no matter which side win the others will not be happy can see the told you so comments this time next yr no matter what the outcome tommorow

Kola is right - it doesn't matter what the outcome of tomorrow's vote is, the damage has been done to the great people of Scotland. Communities have become more divided as a result of this process and the lies and rhetoric from BOTH sides. I fear this country will never be the same again.

I moved here for a better life for my kids but I fear now that I may have made a mistake. I just PRAY that whatever the outcome, people can come back together and set their political differences aside again and live peacefully once more Where did you move from?

"

Greenwich in London. It's a lovely place to live but not a place to bring up kids anymore. At least in Scotland they can go out and play where they live without the constant danger of being stabbed which unfortunately is all to often the case with young teens in London now

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"I am definetly voting NO! There is way tooo much risk to pensions, house prices, food prices, jobs. i want a future for my children and divisions does not bode well for that in a global economy.

The SNP are complete are liars and bullies. Only the ignorant "patriots" want independence. WAKE UP! You define your future NOT Governments!

The only reason Northern England wants a yes vote is because many companies will relocate to the north east. The people that will profit the most from indepdendence is the north east!

Voting yes is like banging strangers bareback! Ya dig!

Actually, in the event of a YES vote, I'm planning to move both my companies to Dumfries & Galloway."
in all honesty you would move your company to a forign country with no set currency no taxation in place no public services the list goes on my familys buisness is fearful of this vote as if it comes yes they have no clue what is going on I findIit a little weird you can say will move to scotland without knowing anything

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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Closing this now to keep all the referendum discussions in one place.

Can you add any new comments on the this one please? Thanks

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/scotland/311735

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