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" lets hope it passes of peacefully. " and I am still a No | |||
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" lets hope it passes of peacefully. and I am still a No" Your sash freshly ironed ? | |||
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" lets hope it passes of peacefully. and I am still a No Your sash freshly ironed ? " I am always cutting a dash with a freshly ironed sash.... | |||
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" lets hope it passes of peacefully. and I am still a No Your sash freshly ironed ? I am always cutting a dash with a freshly ironed sash...." Lol | |||
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"can anyone tell me if it's true that they're giving out free orange's on the orange march? coz id like to make some fresh orange juice" The man from del monte always said yes *confused* | |||
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"Yes campaign tweeting the march was a flop with 3,500 at most primarily bussed in from ulster. " Just down the weekly drop of at Waverly station and can safely say far from a flop! Z | |||
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"Just down the weekly drop of at Waverly station and can safely say far from a flop! Z" "Numbers est to be 10,000 forgot to take the shell suits and staffies with leather studded collars into account " | |||
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"Truly believe ALL sectarian marches should be banned. Catholic and Protestant. They are nothing but an excuse for bigots to take to the streets and encourage religious hatred. " | |||
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"Truly believe ALL sectarian marches should be banned. Catholic and Protestant. They are nothing but an excuse for bigots to take to the streets and encourage religious hatred. " | |||
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"Truly believe ALL sectarian marches should be banned. Catholic and Protestant. They are nothing but an excuse for bigots to take to the streets and encourage religious hatred. " couldnt agree more | |||
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"Does this mean that everyone in the Orange Order is a No voter? Why is such an organisation getting involved in a Scottish referendum? Forgive me if I am ignorant but do they not have stronger ties with Ireland and not Scotland? I don't think this should be allowed, there is a time and place for the Orange Order and this isn't one of them. For the record I would say the exact same about the Hibernians too. " I know people in the Orange order they has said that they have been TOLD TO VOTE NO | |||
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"it passes of peacefully. " Im sure the yessers will be out causing trouble as they are at every event these days. | |||
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"Does this mean that everyone in the Orange Order is a No voter? Why is such an organisation getting involved in a Scottish referendum? Forgive me if I am ignorant but do they not have stronger ties with Ireland and not Scotland? I don't think this should be allowed, there is a time and place for the Orange Order and this isn't one of them. For the record I would say the exact same about the Hibernians too. I know people in the Orange order they has said that they have been TOLD TO VOTE NO" A definite stentch of jobbies coming from this. | |||
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"Forgive me but What has 110 orange flute bands got to do with the referendum? " The same as any event organised by any of the YES or NO groups that had any sort of music. | |||
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"I only asked a question Fair enough if folk are into the whole how hard I can bang my drum on the 12th no problem if that's what floats your boat .. Bang on But as I said what has 110 flute bands prob playing sectarian songs forgive me if they were all playing flower of Scotland Which I doubt Got to do with the Scottish referendum??" Ok lets look at something. If they had been playing secterian songs they would have been stopped and action taken by the police. Who cares if they are a flute band, its someone playing a musical instrument to show support of a No vote. There are others who are putting on musical shows to show support for the Yes vote. | |||
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" I do believe in the right for free speech as long as its within the law of the land. " evenhandedness is a rare commodity, sometimes best to refrain from typing. Auds the bands were showing their support, regardless of playlist. | |||
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"Ehe? Do they get arrested on the 12 th july? No So are you saying they were all playing Scottish folk songs? I seriously doubt it?" You are looking for trouble that was obvioulsy not there at the march as the police said no arrests were made. You are trying to make some sort of point and now clutching at straws. You really wanted there to be trouble and arrests by the sounds of what your trying to push on this forum. Are the music events for the Yes campaign playing all folk music? I doubt it very much either. | |||
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" But as I said what has 110 flute bands prob playing sectarian songs" My my my, what a shocking comment. I hope you never get selected for jury duty as you clearly don't need any evidence before pronouncing guilt. | |||
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" But as I said what has 110 flute bands prob playing sectarian songs My my my, what a shocking comment. I hope you never get selected for jury duty as you clearly don't need any evidence before pronouncing guilt." and they weren't?? | |||
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" But as I said what has 110 flute bands prob playing sectarian songs My my my, what a shocking comment. I hope you never get selected for jury duty as you clearly don't need any evidence before pronouncing guilt.and they weren't??" Id suggest its more up to you to prove proof they were rather than making assertions clearly not based on fact but personal feelings. | |||
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" But as I said what has 110 flute bands prob playing sectarian songs My my my, what a shocking comment. I hope you never get selected for jury duty as you clearly don't need any evidence before pronouncing guilt.and they weren't??" Sorry but you are showing yourself up here in a big way. Please step away from your keyboard. | |||
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" That be a yes then " I would say that its people like yourself that cause all sorts of rumours and issues just because "You think" they did something at what turned out to be a very peaceful march (according to Police Scotland, unless you want to call them liars). In this country you are innocent until proven guility. | |||
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" That be a yes then I would say that its people like yourself that cause all sorts of rumours and issues just because "You think" they did something at what turned out to be a very peaceful march (according to Police Scotland, unless you want to call them liars). In this country you are innocent until proven guility. " excuse me but not once did I say they caused trouble ? I asked what the relevance of a sectarian march was to the Scottish referendum? | |||
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"I just want it to be all over......" It will never be over. Even if there is a Yes vote it will take a long time to sort out the split from the UK. | |||
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" That be a yes then I would say that its people like yourself that cause all sorts of rumours and issues just because "You think" they did something at what turned out to be a very peaceful march (according to Police Scotland, unless you want to call them liars). In this country you are innocent until proven guility. excuse me but not once did I say they caused trouble ? I asked what the relevance of a sectarian march was to the Scottish referendum?" YOu really have to take the blinkers off. It was NOT a secterian march. It was a march by an organisation to show their support for the Union. Showing that support is in no way secterian. | |||
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"I just want it to be all over...... It will never be over. Even if there is a Yes vote it will take a long time to sort out the split from the UK. " oh well........ bye | |||
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" That be a yes then I would say that its people like yourself that cause all sorts of rumours and issues just because "You think" they did something at what turned out to be a very peaceful march (according to Police Scotland, unless you want to call them liars). In this country you are innocent until proven guility. excuse me but not once did I say they caused trouble ? I asked what the relevance of a sectarian march was to the Scottish referendum? YOu really have to take the blinkers off. It was NOT a secterian march. It was a march by an organisation to show their support for the Union. Showing that support is in no way secterian." no sectarian tunes then? | |||
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" Sectarianism should be a thing of the past It would be too if adults didn't teach hatred to their kids Both sides!!" 100% agree with this.. Neither side of the religious divide cover themselves in glory. No place for it in a modern Scotland. | |||
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" That be a yes then I would say that its people like yourself that cause all sorts of rumours and issues just because "You think" they did something at what turned out to be a very peaceful march (according to Police Scotland, unless you want to call them liars). In this country you are innocent until proven guility. excuse me but not once did I say they caused trouble ? I asked what the relevance of a sectarian march was to the Scottish referendum? YOu really have to take the blinkers off. It was NOT a secterian march. It was a march by an organisation to show their support for the Union. Showing that support is in no way secterian.no sectarian tunes then?" Why dont you phone up Police Scotland 0131 226 7273 and ask them if secterian songs where played. You seem really intent on trying to prove that they were. Police Scotland said the march went off with no arrests. If someone was breaking the law then they would have been arrested and Police Scotland would have reported this. Again are you saying that Police Scotland are liars? | |||
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"I minced past the Yes shop in Brechin earlier, people outside asked if I was voting yes.... I said no. I have no idea how they knew I sucked cock as they muttered the word poof. " Maybe the "mincing" gave it away lol | |||
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"I minced past the Yes shop in Brechin earlier, people outside asked if I was voting yes.... I said no. I have no idea how they knew I sucked cock as they muttered the word poof. Maybe the "mincing" gave it away lol" , you may have a point there | |||
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"I minced past the Yes shop in Brechin earlier, people outside asked if I was voting yes.... I said no. I have no idea how they knew I sucked cock as they muttered the word poof. " Did you have the "Am 21 and Legal" badge from the movie "Pride" on your coat lol | |||
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"I minced past the Yes shop in Brechin earlier, people outside asked if I was voting yes.... I said no. I have no idea how they knew I sucked cock as they muttered the word poof. Did you have the "Am 21 and Legal" badge from the movie "Pride" on your coat lol" what 21... I was well past my 1000 by then | |||
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" That be a yes then I would say that its people like yourself that cause all sorts of rumours and issues just because "You think" they did something at what turned out to be a very peaceful march (according to Police Scotland, unless you want to call them liars). In this country you are innocent until proven guility. excuse me but not once did I say they caused trouble ? I asked what the relevance of a sectarian march was to the Scottish referendum? YOu really have to take the blinkers off. It was NOT a secterian march. It was a march by an organisation to show their support for the Union. Showing that support is in no way secterian.no sectarian tunes then?" Hmmmmmmm the orange order were marching, and it wasn't sectarian. Could someone explain how that's possible.(where's that scratching your head,with a puzzled look on your face emotion when you need him) Being a no supporter myself, For the first time in my life, I can say, happy days for Bigotry, Ffs how often are you going to be able to say that. | |||
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" Hmmmmmmm the orange order were marching, and it wasn't sectarian. Could someone explain how that's possible.(where's that scratching your head,with a puzzled look on your face emotion when you need him) Being a no supporter myself, For the first time in my life, I can say, happy days for Bigotry, Ffs how often are you going to be able to say that. " The march was aimed at support the Union. If this was a bunch of muslims with women in wearing burqa what would people be saying? Like I said before I dont support the Orange Order nor do I think the marches are right, but I do believe that folk are allowed to show their support for something, which they have. | |||
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" Hmmmmmmm the orange order were marching, and it wasn't sectarian. Could someone explain how that's possible.(where's that scratching your head,with a puzzled look on your face emotion when you need him) Being a no supporter myself, For the first time in my life, I can say, happy days for Bigotry, Ffs how often are you going to be able to say that. The march was aimed at support the Union. If this was a bunch of muslims with women in wearing burqa what would people be saying? Like I said before I dont support the Orange Order nor do I think the marches are right, but I do believe that folk are allowed to show their support for something, which they have." Oh goody,an non secterian orange march,that included tims. | |||
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"As for Jim Siller's warning about a "day of reckoning" once they get into power then that is truly scary. I'm not saying they are Nazis but they are treading a fine line between reasoned debate and intimidation" | |||
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" Oh goody,an non secterian orange march,that included tims. " Actually there are some that have came out in support of the march. This was published a few days ago. | |||
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" Hmmmmmmm the orange order were marching, and it wasn't sectarian. Could someone explain how that's possible.(where's that scratching your head,with a puzzled look on your face emotion when you need him) Being a no supporter myself, For the first time in my life, I can say, happy days for Bigotry, Ffs how often are you going to be able to say that. The march was aimed at support the Union. If this was a bunch of muslims with women in wearing burqa what would people be saying? Like I said before I dont support the Orange Order nor do I think the marches are right, but I do believe that folk are allowed to show their support for something, which they have. Oh goody,an non secterian orange march,that included tims. " When, in a democracy, you start banning public demonstrations because you don't like what they say, you are on the slippery slope towards autocracy. I don't like the OO, hate what it stands for. However, I do defend it's right to 'demonstrate'. It is a sign of a fair society that allows those it disagrees with to openly air those _iews. | |||
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"As for Jim Siller's warning about a "day of reckoning" once they get into power then that is truly scary. I'm not saying they are Nazis but they are treading a fine line between reasoned debate and intimidation " I think that Sillers was not a good idea for the Yes people at all. The Chairman of Iceland summed the comments up as Bollocks. | |||
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" When, in a democracy, you start banning public demonstrations because you don't like what they say, you are on the slippery slope towards autocracy. I don't like the OO, hate what it stands for. However, I do defend it's right to 'demonstrate'. It is a sign of a fair society that allows those it disagrees with to openly air those _iews. " Well said. People forget about democracy and that people have died to allow us all to have democracy. | |||
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"As for Jim Siller's warning about a "day of reckoning" once they get into power then that is truly scary. I'm not saying they are Nazis but they are treading a fine line between reasoned debate and intimidation I think that Sillers was not a good idea for the Yes people at all. The Chairman of Iceland summed the comments up as Bollocks. " Sillars and Salmond hate each other and the SNP stitched up Sillars dying wife (Margo McDonald). Revenge is a dish best served cold. | |||
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"Does this mean that everyone in the Orange Order is a No voter? Why is such an organisation getting involved in a Scottish referendum? Forgive me if I am ignorant but do they not have stronger ties with Ireland and not Scotland? I don't think this should be allowed, there is a time and place for the Orange Order and this isn't one of them. For the record I would say the exact same about the Hibernians too. I know people in the Orange order they has said that they have been TOLD TO VOTE NO" Have to disagree there I'm an orange woman and we have not been told what to vote it's been suggested as we are a British organisation who serve the queen than we should keep the union but not once have we been told to vote no | |||
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"Yes campaign tweeting the march was a flop with 3,500 at most primarily bussed in from ulster. " | |||
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"Yes campaign tweeting the march was a flop with 3,500 at most primarily bussed in from ulster. " But Police Scotland 15,000 and 110 bands...so who is telling the truth YES Scotland or Police Scotland? | |||
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"Yes campaign tweeting the march was a flop with 3,500 at most primarily bussed in from ulster. But Police Scotland 15,000 and 110 bands...so who is telling the truth YES Scotland or Police Scotland? " Actually that figure was from the guardian who published the tweet and later removed it as it was from an "unofficial" source. I did say 15,000 in OP before any figures were actually released by police Scotland, you heard it hear first | |||
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"Couldn't care less either way to be honest, it's a free country. You can do whatever you want as long as it's within the law (Just hope they held up a bus or two )" That Scottish law or English law ? | |||
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"Couldn't care less either way to be honest, it's a free country. You can do whatever you want as long as it's within the law (Just hope they held up a bus or two )" Its Edinburgh....the home of the trams.... | |||
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"Couldn't care less either way to be honest, it's a free country. You can do whatever you want as long as it's within the law (Just hope they held up a bus or two ) That Scottish law or English law ? " Sods! | |||
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"Couldn't care less either way to be honest, it's a free country. You can do whatever you want as long as it's within the law (Just hope they held up a bus or two ) Its Edinburgh....the home of the trams.... " Sorry, meant to say, that last bit in brackets was a private joke But you're right, just a shame croydon and Wimbledon did it first and bigger | |||
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"Have you ever heard of police Scotland to tell the truth lol" I haven't heard the WHOLE TRUTH from anyone in this campaign yet, so why would today be any different???? | |||
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"I believe in the democratic process that you are allowed to march and show your support for whatever cause as long as it is legal and not likely to cause public disorder. Having seen Wee Eck's goons at first hand and having heard from 2 sources about their Nurember style rallies with blue shirted minders I would be more worried about them. As for Jim Siller's warning about a "day of reckoning" once they get into power then that is truly scary. I'm not saying they are Nazis but they are treading a fine line between reasoned debate and intimidation" | |||
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" Hmmmmmmm the orange order were marching, and it wasn't sectarian. Could someone explain how that's possible.(where's that scratching your head,with a puzzled look on your face emotion when you need him) Being a no supporter myself, For the first time in my life, I can say, happy days for Bigotry, Ffs how often are you going to be able to say that. The march was aimed at support the Union. If this was a bunch of muslims with women in wearing burqa what would people be saying? Like I said before I dont support the Orange Order nor do I think the marches are right, but I do believe that folk are allowed to show their support for something, which they have. Oh goody,an non secterian orange march,that included tims. When, in a democracy, you start banning public demonstrations because you don't like what they say, you are on the slippery slope towards autocracy. I don't like the OO, hate what it stands for. However, I do defend it's right to 'demonstrate'. It is a sign of a fair society that allows those it disagrees with to openly air those _iews. " I wouldn't ban the marches, they just creep me out a bit. I can't understand any organisation, that relies on the tolerance of others, To demonstrate their intolerance of others. Is that ironic. | |||
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" Hmmmmmmm the orange order were marching, and it wasn't sectarian. Could someone explain how that's possible.(where's that scratching your head,with a puzzled look on your face emotion when you need him) Being a no supporter myself, For the first time in my life, I can say, happy days for Bigotry, Ffs how often are you going to be able to say that. The march was aimed at support the Union. If this was a bunch of muslims with women in wearing burqa what would people be saying? Like I said before I dont support the Orange Order nor do I think the marches are right, but I do believe that folk are allowed to show their support for something, which they have. Oh goody,an non secterian orange march,that included tims. When, in a democracy, you start banning public demonstrations because you don't like what they say, you are on the slippery slope towards autocracy. I don't like the OO, hate what it stands for. However, I do defend it's right to 'demonstrate'. It is a sign of a fair society that allows those it disagrees with to openly air those _iews. I wouldn't ban the marches, they just creep me out a bit. I can't understand any organisation, that relies on the tolerance of others, To demonstrate their intolerance of others. Is that ironic. " no i think thats a very good way to put it, i might steal this | |||
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" But as I said what has 110 flute bands prob playing sectarian songs My my my, what a shocking comment. I hope you never get selected for jury duty as you clearly don't need any evidence before pronouncing guilt." It is well publicised the Orange order parades bring trouble when they are out. Hate filled and racist followers ( not all but most) I have seen first hand the trouble they bring there is NO place for them in modern society | |||
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" I hope you never get selected for jury duty as you clearly don't need any evidence before pronouncing guilt. It is well publicised the Orange order parades bring trouble when they are out. Hate filled and racist followers ( not all but most) I have seen first hand the trouble they bring there is NO place for them in modern society" This time round they did not cause trouble. They marched as they are allowed to do, put their _iew across (Now Mr View on here thats not you am on about) and went home. | |||
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" I hope you never get selected for jury duty as you clearly don't need any evidence before pronouncing guilt. It is well publicised the Orange order parades bring trouble when they are out. Hate filled and racist followers ( not all but most) I have seen first hand the trouble they bring there is NO place for them in modern society This time round they did not cause trouble. They marched as they are allowed to do, put their _iew across (Now Mr View on here thats not you am on about) and went home. " Still waiting for the yes snowwhite i heard 15,000 from you first, cough cough | |||
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"If agreed ban all these religous marches regardless of religion ie protestant, cathlic, mudlim etc I might just vote yes " You cant ban the marches or the demonstartions. How far do you take it then? Ban Gay Pride? Bad the May day parade? Ban the military marching thru the cities/towns? Ban people wanting to protest about things? Sorry but we cant do that we are a democratic soceity and no matter how vile we may find things its what makes democracy work. Today at Braehead there was a demonstration and people entered the building with Free Palistine shirts and banners and saying dont buy from Jerico. They were moved outside peacefully and continued their demonstartion peacefully. I am sure some folk did not agree with them in particular members of the Jewish community as it did say dont buy Israel goods. But these people were exercising their democratic right. | |||
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"These bigots marching will boost the YES campaign!!! " Will the support from North Korea boost the Yes campaign also ? Love this from the North Koreans... "I believe that every person has the right to be a member of an independent nation, to have sovereignty, to live in peace and to enjoy equality," he said. "And I believe that a majority of Scots feel the same and will vote for independence." Yeah lets be like North Korea... | |||
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"15,000 due to march today in Edinburgh lets hope it passes of peacefully. " Amen. Wish these lot would stay home. Vote and shut up! | |||
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"Truly believe ALL sectarian marches should be banned. Catholic and Protestant. They are nothing but an excuse for bigots to take to the streets and encourage religious hatred. couldnt agree more " That's a big agree from me to. Intolerance is the death of swinging. | |||
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"15,000 due to march today in Edinburgh lets hope it passes of peacefully. " personally I hope a train crashes into them,,,,,,,,,,,,peacefully | |||
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"15,000 due to march today in Edinburgh lets hope it passes of peacefully. personally I hope a train crashes into them,,,,,,,,,,,,peacefully" Disgusting quote from a human being wishing death on another human being | |||
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""Police Scotland later said the march passed peacefully with no arrests. Around 15,000 participants and 110 Orange Lodge bands took part and several thousand spectators turned out to watch the event, police said." So the doom and gloom from the YES voters about the thing turning into a mass brawl must have been scaremongering..oh sorry cant use that as the SNP have that as their chant. " Don't think there was any Yes scaremongering at all. We just recommended that people stay away. Why give such an out of date and biggoted movement any justification? So they did, it passed peacefully and a bunch congregated in Glasgow instead and had a bit of a party - also peacefully. | |||
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""Police Scotland later said the march passed peacefully with no arrests. Around 15,000 participants and 110 Orange Lodge bands took part and several thousand spectators turned out to watch the event, police said." So the doom and gloom from the YES voters about the thing turning into a mass brawl must have been scaremongering..oh sorry cant use that as the SNP have that as their chant. Don't think there was any Yes scaremongering at all. We just recommended that people stay away. Why give such an out of date and biggoted movement any justification? So they did, it passed peacefully and a bunch congregated in Glasgow instead and had a bit of a party - also peacefully." people are bigoted not the organisations and what they stand for a represemt | |||
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"Surely by default the people are the organisations and what they represent? You can't have the organisation without the people having a desire to be there." | |||
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"Surely by default the people are the organisations and what they represent? You can't have the organisation without the people having a desire to be there." not all of the bigots are part of the organisations and a fair proportion have no involvment with the bigotry | |||
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"This threads great for people I need to block " I hope you have me blocked..... Great to see you joining the discusion/debate ...thanks.... | |||
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"Have you ever heard of police Scotland to tell the truth lol" actually yes but I am biased lol | |||
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"Forgive me but What has 110 orange flute bands got to do with the referendum? " Nothing at all | |||
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"Forgive me but What has 110 orange flute bands got to do with the referendum? Nothing at all " The same as these musical preformers who will stage a show this week. | |||
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" That be a yes then I would say that its people like yourself that cause all sorts of rumours and issues just because "You think" they did something at what turned out to be a very peaceful march (according to Police Scotland, unless you want to call them liars). In this country you are innocent until proven guility. excuse me but not once did I say they caused trouble ? I asked what the relevance of a sectarian march was to the Scottish referendum? YOu really have to take the blinkers off. It was NOT a secterian march. It was a march by an organisation to show their support for the Union. Showing that support is in no way secterian." | |||
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