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By *wiftiee OP   Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

Yes, fraid so, after today's news.

After all, how could an independent Scotland fail with our new ally........North Korea!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a present we could give them our nuclear weapons as they will be our allies against the evils of Westminster !!!!! xxxx

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By *ifes journeyCouple
over a year ago

scotland

You will want to keep the nukes to use against Brussels....

Can't see the logic of wanting away from Westminster but will immediately 'negotiate' to get EU membership.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Aye right!!! So you have....got a wee shock though...

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By *andemanMan
over a year ago

bedforshire

Yes the glorious leaders hair cut will look great in red. Oh actually while I use to be red I am now bald. So its straight to the golag for me. Quite right to I suppose.

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By *wiftiee OP   Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow


"Can't see the logic of wanting away from Westminster but will immediately 'negotiate' to get EU membership. "

Agree 100%. Crazy, totally illogical.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Definate yes all the way

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By *wiftiee OP   Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Behave you lot, Emperor Alex the First will negotiate fsb conditions for Scotland with Brussels. Remember Scotland I'd the richest nation in Europe how could he fail

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By *wiftiee OP   Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow


"Aye right!!! So you have....got a wee shock though... "

Pardon? Oh of course, the pills!

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By *wiftiee OP   Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow


"Behave you lot, Emperor Alex the First will negotiate fsb conditions for Scotland with Brussels. Remember Scotland I'd the richest nation in Europe how could he fail"

Like your humour Mac!

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By *leasure domMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Even the naysayer politicians (apart from the most extreme and duplicitous) do not deny that an independent Scotland can not be a successful nation again.

So, the question is....

Do you aspire to self-determination as a natural and logical state of being for both individuals and nations - or are you content with the status quo: dependency on London's offerings and Westminster's corruption and resistance to reform?

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By *ikerbob1957Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

At Last Wee Eck has a pal. Never mind that we are risking losing the pound, our membership of EU, NATO, G7, G8, G20, UN at least we have North Korea to cuddle up to.

all the problems with Posh Dave starving our kids and setting up food banks everywhere we can be pals with a country that is an international pariah and relies of countries sending them emergency aid.

Warms the cocckles of my heart to think that we are not alone after all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Behave you lot, Emperor Alex the First will negotiate fsb conditions for Scotland with Brussels. Remember Scotland I'd the richest nation in Europe how could he fail

Like your humour Mac! "

Careful Bothy,

Comments like that are exactly what Jim Sillars and his Thought Police will be looking for when they have their Day Of Reckoning with No Voters, No wonder Kim Jong though we were worth becoming friend with (shakes head in total disbelief that this could be happening in not the richest but the BEST country in the world)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you think we will all need to get wee eck hair cuts

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By *andemanMan
over a year ago

bedforshire


"Behave you lot, Emperor Alex the First will negotiate fsb conditions for Scotland with Brussels. Remember Scotland I'd the richest nation in Europe how could he fail"

The fact that Scotland is the best wee nation on the planet will not change if we vote no. But given that is it not about time we make alliance with our other Celtic cusins Wales N.Ireland and Cornwall and stop these English Tories making a mess of our country. Boundary and seat reform of Westminster is the real game and the debate both Tartan and Etononian tories do not want us to have. It's were the real control is.

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By *andemanMan
over a year ago

bedforshire

As for Mr. Silly if he sends around his goons he will find the true sons of William Wallis waiting for him! We Scots do not take kindly to that sort of thing!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I urge everyone to watch this video, it might just be the most important indy ref message you hear.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=W6vDzf-wSbk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As for Mr. Silly if he sends around his goons he will find the true sons of William Wallis waiting for him! We Scots do not take kindly to that sort of thing!"

wallis, Wallis, who the fuck is Wallis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So that is two pals wee eck will have, putin as well !!!

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By *wiftiee OP   Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow


"As for Mr. Silly if he sends around his goons he will find the true sons of William Wallis waiting for him! We Scots do not take kindly to that sort of thing!"

Re Messrs Salmond and Sillars latest nonsense, true colours coming to the fore!

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By *wiftiee OP   Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow


"I urge everyone to watch this video, it might just be the most important indy ref message you hear.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=W6vDzf-wSbk"

Ehhhhhh........and the point is???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I urge everyone to watch this video, it might just be the most important indy ref message you hear.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=W6vDzf-wSbk

Ehhhhhh........and the point is??? "

only that some of have retained a sense of humour

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By *MD47Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"

S Westminster's corruption and resistance to reform?"

So your saying that the Scottish Gov and MSP are all saints (no matter which party they are from?) They dont so harm to anyone and are pillars of soceity....

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By *ikerbob1957Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Got collared by a yes campaigner this morning. He was raging that the Leader of the Welsh assembly had come up to Scotland to preach to us, who did he think he was. etc,etc.

I pointed out that the female leader of plaid cwyra was pictured with wee eck this week swopping notes on seperation of nations. He just stopped talking then, lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

S Westminster's corruption and resistance to reform?

So your saying that the Scottish Gov and MSP are all saints (no matter which party they are from?) They dont so harm to anyone and are pillars of soceity....

"

You're another one for the Sillars Stazi to round up on the day of reckoning

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By *erfume-LoverMan
over a year ago

Lothian area

Kirkcaldy was full of rabid YES folk today - want a badge crap etc

Thanks but NO thanks

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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow ish

“Scots have long memories. And the main culprits, no matter the result, shall suffer.”

Alan McGee, Yes campaign, in today's Herald.

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By *MD47Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"“Scots have long memories. And the main culprits, no matter the result, shall suffer.”

Alan McGee, Yes campaign, in today's Herald.

"

The harted and venom coming out from some folk is totally unreal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"“Scots have long memories. And the main culprits, no matter the result, shall suffer.”

Alan McGee, Yes campaign, in today's Herald.

The harted and venom coming out from some folk is totally unreal."

Sign of things to come I'm afraid, win or lose

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"“Scots have long memories. And the main culprits, no matter the result, shall suffer.”

Alan McGee, Yes campaign, in today's Herald.

"

Bizarre;y I've just finished reading Alan McGee's book. He lives in Wales and states in his book he has no intention of returning to live in Scotland.

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By *wiftiee OP   Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow


"“Scots have long memories. And the main culprits, no matter the result, shall suffer.”

Alan McGee, Yes campaign, in today's Herald.

Bizarre;y I've just finished reading Alan McGee's book. He lives in Wales and states in his book he has no intention of returning to live in Scotland."

I'm sorry, but these sort of people are pathetic jokes, imho.

And contrary to what AS would have us believe, it's surely a sign of desperation when they wheel out people like Alan Cumming as they did the other day. Folk who are taken in by that sort of rubbish really do need their heads looked!!

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By *MD47Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"“Scots have long memories. And the main culprits, no matter the result, shall suffer.”

Alan McGee, Yes campaign, in today's Herald.

Bizarre;y I've just finished reading Alan McGee's book. He lives in Wales and states in his book he has no intention of returning to live in Scotland."

Oh not even if Salmond gets his wicked way. I want to know if good old Sean will come back and bring his millions with him so wee eck can tax the hell out of tax exile....cough splutter...dont think I will hold my breath for that...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thing is its feck all to do with AS...its about self governance and the only logical answer is YES...I compare it too an abusive relationship...Scotland's about to bite back as there's only so long you can tell someone they are worthless and useless without you...

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


"Thing is its feck all to do with AS...its about self governance and the only logical answer is YES...I compare it too an abusive relationship...Scotland's about to bite back as there's only so long you can tell someone they are worthless and useless without you..."

Isn't that a very poor analogy and dismissive of those who have suffered through a genuinely abusive relationship? Thankfully I never have but I've never felt abused in any other way either.

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By *andemanMan
over a year ago

bedforshire

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By *andemanMan
over a year ago

bedforshire


"“Scots have long memories. And the main culprits, no matter the result, shall suffer.”

Alan McGee, Yes campaign, in today's Herald.

Bizarre;y I've just finished reading Alan McGee's book. He lives in Wales and states in his book he has no intention of returning to live in Scotland.

Oh not even if Salmond gets his wicked way. I want to know if good old Sean will come back and bring his millions with him so wee eck can tax the hell out of tax exile....cough splutter...dont think I will hold my breath for that..."

I can't see The big man leaving sunny california for curcaldy can you. And it's not like Moneypenny is going to give him a sub.

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By *andemanMan
over a year ago

bedforshire


"Thing is its feck all to do with AS...its about self governance and the only logical answer is YES...I compare it too an abusive relationship...Scotland's about to bite back as there's only so long you can tell someone they are worthless and useless without you...

Isn't that a very poor analogy and dismissive of those who have suffered through a genuinely abusive relationship? Thankfully I never have but I've never felt abused in any other way either."

YES it is disengenroius of people who know what real abuse is.

Further what is the idea that Scotland is a poor little victim all about? We are no one's victim. It's about time we took pride in our achievements including those of the last 300 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do find it rather contradictory that Yes isn't about Salmond or Sturgeon or Sillars but No is all about Posh Dave etc

Double standards from them yet again

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By *MD47Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I do find it rather contradictory that Yes isn't about Salmond or Sturgeon or Sillars but No is all about Posh Dave etc

Double standards from them yet again"

Very true indeed.

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By *andemanMan
over a year ago

bedforshire


"I do find it rather contradictory that Yes isn't about Salmond or Sturgeon or Sillars but No is all about Posh Dave etc

Double standards from them yet again

Very true indeed."

Good point really it is as much about who will lead us as where. Posh dave is a tw$/% and so is the fish farm. Me thinks we best find a better way.

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By *andemanMan
over a year ago

bedforshire

Besides if Scotland leaves you grantee a tory gov in Westminster and who would be to blame for that. Oh but what do we care we will be free in a corner while our Celtic cusins Wales N.Ireland and Cornwall suffer. So much for family values.

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By *wiftiee OP   Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow


"I do find it rather contradictory that Yes isn't about Salmond or Sturgeon or Sillars but No is all about Posh Dave etc

Double standards from them yet again"

Absolutely, and they're being found out on a daily basis at the moment.

As is always the case, those doing all the shouting, on both sides, are a tiny minority. Come Thursday, the silent and civilised majority will have their say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope so Bothy, I hope so

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By *wiftiee OP   Man
over a year ago

near Glasgow

I just had to correct another 'Yes' campaigner, spouting the "English colonials" rubbish. It really does make you laugh.

In some respects, the more they spout that nonsense, the more liable anyone with half a brain will see thought them and vote otherwise.

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By *MD47Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I do find it rather contradictory that Yes isn't about Salmond or Sturgeon or Sillars but No is all about Posh Dave etc

Double standards from them yet again

Absolutely, and they're being found out on a daily basis at the moment.

As is always the case, those doing all the shouting, on both sides, are a tiny minority. Come Thursday, the silent and civilised majority will have their say."

You really are having a laugh with the posts.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are both yes and its simply about having the government WE chose and not being able to be outvoted by one city alone. The head of united government should never of been in England's capital city to begin with, would have been better placed in north england. Had that been the case London fat cats would probably never of corrupted the government. Anyway that's just one reason there are a hundred more lol.

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By *ane DTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow ish


"We are both yes and its simply about having the government WE chose and not being able to be outvoted by one city alone. The head of united government should never of been in England's capital city to begin with, would have been better placed in north england. Had that been the case London fat cats would probably never of corrupted the government. Anyway that's just one reason there are a hundred more lol. "

The current scottish government were elected with 44% of the vote.

56% of the Scottish Electorate didn't get the government it voted for.

NEXT!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thing is, it was a United Kingdom election,

When was the last time 50% of the total available electorate turned out and voted for one party.......... Never!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah and we have 1 Tory mp for Scotland and a Tory ran government that controls our energy and our tax's. NVM the SNP its not about them its about having a government that follows its ppl views. Maybe we can have a country that doesn't go to war and bomb children in their homes, maybe we can have a country were nukes are not stored outside our biggest city. Maybe just maybe we can shape this country where it will be run for the benefit of us all instead of born rich fuds controlling things so they make more on their investments. They are getting wealthier while the everyone else gets poorer. And the further you get from London the less they care. If people can't see that then go visit a food bank and see how some are living while billions are spent on weapons and war. Its not just an end to the union I wish for I hope people down south wake up, Westminster is corrupt and it needs torn down and started again with folk with the same values as your normal run of the mill people. Bit of a rant sorry lol

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By *MD47Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

+Yeah and we have 1 Tory mp for Scotland and a Tory ran government

Its not a Tory ran Gov it’s a coalition. Tory/LibDem. Libdem have elected MPs from Scotland.

+that controls our energy and our tax's.

Not true. Energy is private companies. Tax can be raised by Scottish Gov

NVM the SNP its not about them its about having a government that follows its ppl views.

+SNP don’t follow my views. I did not vote for them.

Maybe we can have a country that doesn't go to war and bomb children in their homes,

+Maybe we can have a world that people don’t bomb people in the street or cut peoples heads off.

maybe we can have a country were nukes are not stored outside our biggest city

+They are not outside they are a good distance away.

. Maybe just maybe we can shape this country where it will be run for the benefit of us all instead of born rich fuds

+ So is that why Wee Eck wants to give companies coporation tax cuts but will not increase the tax of the rich folk. He was challenged about that on STV and would not answer so the rich get richer simple enough.

controlling things so they make more on their investments.

+ As above

They are getting wealthier while the everyone else gets poorer.

+And you think that being independent will stop that? How will they stop it? The big companies will just pull out and go somewhere else.

And the further you get from London the less they care. If people can't see that then go visit a food bank and see how some are living while billions are spent on weapons and war.

+Go to Norway and see their foodbanks, oh that’s right Norway with Billions in Oli funds have food bands and child poverty, but they don’t have nuclear weapons. So why do they sill have foodbanks and child poverty then?

+ Its not just an end to the union I wish for I hope people down south wake up, Westminster is corrupt and it needs torn down and started again with folk with the same values as your normal run of the mill people. Bit of a rant sorry lol

And the Scottish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Snp would only be in charge for the transition period then we will vote the party we want. So his view on tax's right now are not an issue in the long run we will choose the party with the polises we agree with later. And 51 miles to a nuclear warhead is nothing. As for bringing these extremist into it what's that got to do with it these are groups of ppl not an elected gornment no one made them blow themselves up or cut off heads, they do this because they are insane and angry with everyone that is not of there belief. But bombs were dropped on homes by our elected leader two very different situation all we seem to have done is make more extremists. Also yeah Norway may have food banks and poverty like everywhere else that's not the point. You can't justify spending billions on weapons of war before feeding the people. And Norway may have poverty but they are not spending money of nukes ?.

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By *MD47Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Snp would only be in charge for the transition period then we will vote the party we want. So his view on tax's right now are not an issue in the long run we will choose the party with the polises we agree with later. And 51 miles to a nuclear warhead is nothing. As for bringing these extremist into it what's that got to do with it these are groups of ppl not an elected gornment no one made them blow themselves up or cut off heads, they do this because they are insane and angry with everyone that is not of there belief. But bombs were dropped on homes by our elected leader two very different situation all we seem to have done is make more extremists. Also yeah Norway may have food banks and poverty like everywhere else that's not the point. You can't justify spending billions on weapons of war before feeding the people. And Norway may have poverty but they are not spending money of nukes ?. "

Nope they are not spending money on nukes...I agree with nuclear deterant, I will never change my stance on that.

Norway may not spend the billions that the UK does but those billions keep people in jobs and you tell the people of Barrow-In-Furness, you tell the people of Helensburgh, you tell the 10,000s of people that these keep in employment.

With regards bombing of kids this happens and I take it that you will be out opposing Israel with Palistine etc? Good luck in your views.

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By *andemanMan
over a year ago

bedforshire


"Yeah and we have 1 Tory mp for Scotland and a Tory ran government that controls our energy and our tax's. NVM the SNP its not about them its about having a government that follows its ppl views. Maybe we can have a country that doesn't go to war and bomb children in their homes, maybe we can have a country were nukes are not stored outside our biggest city. Maybe just maybe we can shape this country where it will be run for the benefit of us all instead of born rich fuds controlling things so they make more on their investments. They are getting wealthier while the everyone else gets poorer. And the further you get from London the less they care. If people can't see that then go visit a food bank and see how some are living while billions are spent on weapons and war. Its not just an end to the union I wish for I hope people down south wake up, Westminster is corrupt and it needs torn down and started again with folk with the same values as your normal run of the mill people. Bit of a rant sorry lol"

Can not agree more about Westminster. And your right it needs to be changed. That's one of the best reasons to vote No. If Scotland leaves the union how will the Welsh the N.lrish and the Cornish do that without our help? Oh and that's before the good people of England who would also agree with you. No Scotland must stay in the union it is an obligation and a duty to the decent people of the UK. We must play our part in changing things for the better of all. Not run away and sulk in some independent back water. No is the vote for change.

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